I thought this issue was related just to me using a car/cigarette lighter charger not specific to my devices but now I am not convinced!!
I have found that with my Diamond (and previously my Kaiser) that on an extended trip in the car, on a warm-hot day, with the device stuck to the dash windscreen, and running GPS software (Tomtom) that the device gets overly hot......no kidding you would think as it is in the direct sunlight (not often in Scotland though ) HOWEVER this is not the issue, the issue is that after a while it just stops charging (~30mins), presumably as a safety mechanism to cut down the heat and to stop the Li battery, er...exploding
My question is: has anyone else had this issue? Its rather inconvenient to arrive at your holiday destination, or other, only to find that your device has been totally drained as its been running (yes it still runs!!) on battery for the last hour or two. Surely this is something HTC must look at!!
Has anyone else had this issue (I've read of a few....hence this post!) esoecially those in a warmer climate, and if not, could it be because of a better? in-dash charging system...
Last note, these device are built with GPS (supposedly for car use!), if this is a real issue then it is what I would call flaw in the device......
Appreciate all comments please (especially from HTC/battery/device charging experts)
Read that already here that the Diamond stops charging when getting too hot! It seems that this is a built in overheat protection maybe for the battery but also for all the other electronic parts. Think they´ve implement it beacause of the very slim device design where there is less room to get rid of higher temperatures to protect it.
I had this issue not on my diamond till now, its only two weeks old, but I can report similar things about my Loox 720 and have red many posts regarding hp 4700 when they where the leader on pda-market a few years ago.
Charging the battery will be stoped by the device-electronics, after reaching a curtain temperature, this is common to all LiIon-charging electronics, I think.
What I've heard about the Diamond is, that it should help to swtich of WLAN, cause it tends to develop much heat.
Hi
Yes, initially I beleived it was to little amps from my 12V charger but I got the "to hot-not charging" tip from another tread in this forum.
As soon as my Diamond got colder it started to take charge again.
My car does not have an air conditioner and I need to put it on the dashbord to get satellite signals. I have not found a good solution yet.
stefan
PJ6363 said:
I thought this issue was related just to me using a car/cigarette lighter charger not specific to my devices but now I am not convinced!!
I have found that with my Diamond (and previously my Kaiser) that on an extended trip in the car, on a warm-hot day, with the device stuck to the dash windscreen, and running GPS software (Tomtom) that the device gets overly hot......no kidding you would think as it is in the direct sunlight (not often in Scotland though ) HOWEVER this is not the issue, the issue is that after a while it just stops charging (~30mins), presumably as a safety mechanism to cut down the heat and to stop the Li battery, er...exploding
My question is: has anyone else had this issue? Its rather inconvenient to arrive at your holiday destination, or other, only to find that your device has been totally drained as its been running (yes it still runs!!) on battery for the last hour or two. Surely this is something HTC must look at!!
Has anyone else had this issue (I've read of a few....hence this post!) esoecially those in a warmer climate, and if not, could it be because of a better? in-dash charging system...
Last note, these device are built with GPS (supposedly for car use!), if this is a real issue then it is what I would call flaw in the device......
Appreciate all comments please (especially from HTC/battery/device charging experts)
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Don't they say in the manual of every electronic device, don't put it in direct sunlight. Li-On batteries dont like to be too hot or too cold, it's not something HTC can fix I don't think, just don't leave the phone in direct sunlight.
My old Kaiser user to do this when I had to go out in the company van instead of my air conditioned car. I found folding a piece of white paper in half and using it as a "phone hat" made quite a big difference.
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Don't they say in the manual of every electronic device, don't put it in direct sunlight. Li-On batteries dont like to be too hot or too cold, it's not something HTC can fix I don't think, just don't leave the phone in direct sunlight.
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LOL guys, perhaps we need to put a little parasol on the dash or maybe keep it in the glove compartment!!!
...seriously, I would like to think that this is a flaw, after all, where else can you safely put a "GPS device with street naviagation in your car"...it has to go on the w/screen or dash!!
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My question is: has anyone else had this issue?
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Yes, I've hadi the same problem. The only solution that I've found is to put the phone on a support near the car fan, so it can be cooled. Otherwise when became too hot stop charging and after half an hour the battery is totally out. !
It's a good thing, if you charge a battery in a too hot environnement, you kill it.
I can confirm this. I tried to navigate for 2 hours in my car, TD attached to my w/screen and after half an hour or shorter it shut down. And I couldn't get it on either. Wouldn't charge or anything. I had to wait a few minutes and then it would charge again. This happend two times during the same drive. After that I placed my TD infront of a fan and worked like a charm..seems like it gets to hot.
Oh yea btw. I also noticed I had, what looks like melted plastic, inside my phone after the drive (attached image)
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=14095
something like that would be perfect. Alternatively, using something like AEButton plus to map a key to turn off the screen will help as it will lower the power consumption. you can still hear the turn by turn instructions so you can still get where you are going most of the time, and the lower power drain will allow the battery to charge for longer without the temperature protection kicking in.
What i usually do is to just putt the air-con full blast on the winshield, it is usually a better idea to keep expensive electronic equipment in the normal operating temperature range anyway,
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Oh yea btw. I also noticed I had, what looks like melted plastic, inside my phone after the drive (attached image)
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On a different note, has your Diamond received a soaking? It likes like the water-sensitive sticker (used by HTC to tell if it's suffered water damage) is red on yours which suggests it has...?
Mathew
Happened on the Tytn and Tytn II as well~
Well, I am so sad to see this is still an issue.
My 8525 (had 3) and my Tilt(s) (I have 2) and they have run into the same problem of not charging under heavy use; i.e; Backlight on, Tomtom, GPS all running.
I so hoped they would have fixed this.
ATT has replaced all the phones that developed the problem so far.
I think one of the comments about being designed for in car use is amusing especially because most (if not all) GPS software says "Do not use while driving"
Batteries do overheat, and it's better that the charging is stopped, than you having a £400 fire on your dash board!
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http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=14095
something like that would be perfect. Alternatively, using something like AEButton plus to map a key to turn off the screen will help as it will lower the power consumption. you can still hear the turn by turn instructions so you can still get where you are going most of the time, and the lower power drain will allow the battery to charge for longer without the temperature protection kicking in.
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for example in iGO 8 there is an option to turn on the screen backlight only before crossroads - settings - device and you have an option to have light olways on, device settings or inteligent state when light is always turned of after passing crossroad and turning on some x hundred meters before crossroad
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My old Kaiser user to do this when I had to go out in the company van instead of my air conditioned car. I found folding a piece of white paper in half and using it as a "phone hat" made quite a big difference.
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Or, if you're more into the leather look
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It's a good thing, if you charge a battery in a too hot environnement, you kill it.
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The device should stop loading, before its beeing killed. Have to take care of when its possible to load the device and when not is nothing, what I've red in any user-manual before.
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On a different note, has your Diamond received a soaking? It likes like the water-sensitive sticker (used by HTC to tell if it's suffered water damage) is red on yours which suggests it has...?
Mathew
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Hmm no. It hasn't recieved a soaking. The phone has always been dry inside my pocket . Are you sure the red "thing" indicates the phone has been suffering from water damage?
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Hmm no. It hasn't recieved a soaking. The phone has always been dry inside my pocket . Are you sure the red "thing" indicates the phone has been suffering from water damage?
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My sticker/laber is white of color, so it could be be it came in contact with a liquid.
I repair notebooks and similar sticker, labels & coatings are used that change color when the come in to contact with a liquid. I've also asked a college of mine who used to repair mobile phones and he also confirmed that the put in stickers or laber or special coatings that react to liquids so it easy for the engineer to see if the machine is valid for warranty or not.
But I can't say for sure that the sticker I see on my phone that is white (& your is red), is such a sticker that changes color wen it comes in contact with a liquid.
This morning my Tilt started doing some odd stuff. It will boot to AT&T splash scree then 3G screen then powers down even if I have it on my dock station. Any ideas. I might reformat.
It also keeps rebooting...
Redneck
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This morning my Tilt started doing some odd stuff. It will boot to AT&T splash scree then 3G screen then powers down even if I have it on my dock station. Any ideas. I might reformat.
It also keeps rebooting...
Redneck
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I am having a similar issue tho im not sure its the same. I have a thread about it, my phone battery ran out and now it woult charge. Boots then dies even tho it says the battery is charging. Is it possible it is the same problem?
I think your best option is to perform a hard reset and see if it resolves the issue. If not, then try a different spl.
I have two batteries. The OEM works fine and my phone works as it should. Just recently when I have my replacement battery installed the phone has been acting the same as you are describing. I am convinced that the battery is bad.
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I have two batteries. The OEM works fine and my phone works as it should. Just recently when I have my replacement battery installed the phone has been acting the same as you are describing. I am convinced that the battery is bad.
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idk if your talking about my case or the original posters. But on mine it was working fine and then just randomly it stopped charging. Is there anyway to check if the battery is bad or not.
& shouldnt you be able to boot the phone with just the power cable no battery? i cant....
I think its my battery. One minute it read 80% then dropped to 1%.
Try a contact clean
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I think its my battery. One minute it read 80% then dropped to 1%.
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Might be worth cleaning the battery terminals and (carefully) clean the spring terminals on the phone as well using a cotton bud/q-tip with some contact cleaner or IPA on it. A sudden drop indicates a connection issue which may be due to fingerprint grease. Even a very worn battery will still take a matter of minutes to drop that amount so if it's happening very quickly it's possibly a dodgy connection. At low voltages such as those in the battery, it's especially important that all contacts are perfectly clean and thats not obvious to the eye.
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shouldnt you be able to boot the phone with just the power cable no battery? i cant....
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Nope. Most phones won't boot without battery.
Hi everyone, yesterday I used NeMa's battery calibration to reset the batterystats on my Xperia Z3 Compact running the latest Cyanogenmod. I had done it when the phone was charged at 100% and noticed that the battery instantly dipped to 99% afterwards. I took note but I wasn't worried at the time. Last night I left the phone on its charging dock and slept for about 5 hours and 30 minutes. When I woke up I picked up the phone and noticed it was hot. The screen was fine at the time so I checked the battery percentage, saying it was stuck at 99% which leaves me to believe that the battery was stuck in a charging loop from a bad calibration. I texted someone and also noticed that the Swype keyboard was laggy and unresponsive, but with my lock password, etc. it seemed to be fine.
I powered the phone down and slowly tried to dissipate heat with warm water and later colder water. When I tried to power the phone on, it had shown normal booting until the end when the screen gave out. Currently, it will show normal LED lights up top and calls will still register, but the screen is dark and doesn't seem to have promising digitizer input because I can't answer the call even though I know where to touch the screen to answer it.
Has this happened to anyone? This is my first encounter dealing with this. Any fixes (screen response or proper calibration), or would I just have to get it repaired?
Hello, check this things out
only 2 ways to find out if the screen is working or not working at all
a) a very dark place... start the phone.. maybe the screen is not iluminted proprey ! and maybe the screen is visible ...but very limited.
b) buy a mhl to hdmi cable.. to connect from phone to a smartv.
And see if the touch respons.. if yes the only the screen i out.. if not the screen +touch is out ( dead)
Yeah the screen and digitizer are fried. I'm going to try and return it to the seller stating a defective battery. Has this happened to anyone else? I just need to know if there are any fixes to this if I were to get the same phone.
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Yeah the screen and digitizer are fried. I'm going to try and return it to the seller stating a defective battery. Has this happened to anyone else? I just need to know if there are any fixes to this if I were to get the same phone.
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Poor seller, you blew up your phone with bad software and water and you want someone else to pay for it.
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Hi everyone, yesterday I used NeMa's battery calibration to reset the batterystats on my Xperia Z3 Compact running the latest Cyanogenmod. I had done it when the phone was charged at 100% and noticed that the battery instantly dipped to 99% afterwards. I took note but I wasn't worried at the time. Last night I left the phone on its charging dock and slept for about 5 hours and 30 minutes. When I woke up I picked up the phone and noticed it was hot. The screen was fine at the time so I checked the battery percentage, saying it was stuck at 99% which leaves me to believe that the battery was stuck in a charging loop from a bad calibration. I texted someone and also noticed that the Swype keyboard was laggy and unresponsive, but with my lock password, etc. it seemed to be fine.
I powered the phone down and slowly tried to dissipate heat with warm water and later colder water. When I tried to power the phone on, it had shown normal booting until the end when the screen gave out. Currently, it will show normal LED lights up top and calls will still register, but the screen is dark and doesn't seem to have promising digitizer input because I can't answer the call even though I know where to touch the screen to answer it.
Has this happened to anyone? This is my first encounter dealing with this. Any fixes (screen response or proper calibration), or would I just have to get it repaired?
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Hello
My screen cracked so I ordered a new on ebay. However after I have put the phone back in its shell the top part gets pretty hot. I opened it and started it without the aluminum shell to test and there were no heat? Anyone know what it might be?
Thanks In advance!
That isn't likely to be the screen. My phone gets warm too. About 4 days ago out of nowhere I noticed the upper part of the screen feeling warm, it turns out my phone had stopped sleeping properly and Google services had resumed chomping on my battery when the screen was off.
Tho when i don't keep it in the aluminium case it's not warm at all, turned on and I have logged on my simcard/wifi. I have left it on outside of the case for 1 hour and it don't get warm at all. However in the case it gets super hot as soon as it boots and then after 15-25m it turns off probably because it's too hot
Happened the same last night with me.
Put a download and slept, and in the morning it was all drained of battery and it showed that it shut down after minutes after I slept with 90%battery.
It was weird. Had to keep pressing power button for 40 sec approx for the phone to turn on.
It's working fine now though
did anyone of you even read my post? I said after a screenreplacement. It didn't just happened randomly. however i fixed it. I removed the camera and the earspeaker and reinstalled them used some alcohol on the contact points on the case and the earspeaker and it seemed to fix it if anyone has this problem later down the road
Hi jullleee, I have the same problem as u after I replaced the screen. The phone getting too hot on the top (one plus 3). On charge it becomes more hot and faster on very high temperature than without charging. Also the battery dont charge . Why did u reconnect the ear speaker and the camera ? Thank you in advance
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Hi jullleee, I have the same problem as u after I replaced the screen. The phone getting too hot on the top (one plus 3). On charge it becomes more hot and faster on very high temperature than without charging. Also the battery dont charge . Why did u reconnect the ear speaker and the camera ? Thank you in advance
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For anyone coming across this thread I just had the same problem when replacing my Oneplus 3 screen. It seemed to work, and I plugged it in, but it said "battery too low charge for a while", then I got the 0% and seemed to charge and then restart, and then be back at 0% and be stuck in this boot / charging loop. My battery had died hard when my screen died so I thought maybe it just needed to charge for a while, but the top half of the phone got very hot.
So I took it apart again and it turns out the issue for me was with the top ribbon cables that cross the battery. Where they connect to the main board was very tight and it was difficult to get both of them in place properly. Usually they kind of overlapped and one stuck up slightly. It was fixing their placement before bolting down their cover that fixed this issue for me.
Edit: Never mind. Still searching for my issue. Taking the back case off will let it work normally but whenever i snap it on it goes back into this charging loop, I still suspect it's an issue with these two cables and the case is putting pressure in the wrong spot or something but I'm not really sure yet.
I had the same problem, the issue was the fact that i plugged the ribbon cable the other way around.
Hi guys,
I had to change both display incl. frame and battery because a barbell fell on my Mi9. This bent the phone at the place of the battery and completely destroyed the display.
I was able to repair the phone quickly, but unfortunatly I did not glue the new battery. Now I was mountain biking and due to the vibrations the battery was torn from the mainboard and parts of the battery cable got stuck in the connector. I had these parts removed carefully by a watchmaker and he assured me that the connerctor looks undamaged.
But now I have the problem that the phone won't start when I insert the old (minimally) bent battery. It does not respond to any input. Only when I charge it, the LED is blinking slowly and the MI Start logo appears for 1/4 second. This process is repeated continuously. The battery also warms up slightly, showing me that it is being charged and that the connection is basically established.
Can you detect a defect on the board by this error description or is this a "typical" battery problem? Or does this error description look familiar to you otherwise?
Thanks for all suggestions,
Mike
Well I'd say that will be a hard problem to diagnose without knowing what to look for, and I definitely don't know but what I'd suggest so you can rule out the battery problem is to try a different battery in the phone and see if you get the same response. If it works happy days problem solved. If not it is more than likely a main board problem or charging connector.