[Q] GPS Games on KF/KFHD - 7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Yes, I know there's another thread on Parallel Kingdom/Google Currents etc, but I wanted to highlight GPS Games as the thread topic. There's a handful of GPS games (Life is Magic, PK, Ingress) for Android and it would be nice to see them working for KF/KFHD. Apparently it's possible (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE6voRHVawY) but no one has publicly explained how to do so. Hopefully someone out of the 4 million strong XDA community can publish a guide on how to accomplish this.

There are several threads dealing of Kindle and GPS, and, as the tablet lacks satellite tracking, there are two methods that seem to work, bluetooth dongle and tethering from a phone. Both systems require some app running in the background. I've tested the bluetooth dongle method, and only a few programs don't work well. Things have changed some with the last update, but is acceptable. I will test those programs for you...

I'm working now, but I've downloaded those three games on my phone. When I get home I'll side load them and test with my bluetooth dongle....

Thx. Just downloaded ingress and surprisingly it installed properly. Waiting for activation code so hopefully it works.
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Just read on Parallel Kingdom forum that someone got it working by installing Alien Droid (whatever that is)
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Hey gflorez,
As you know, I'm a total noob but I'm wondering what your opinion is on this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2163135? Could it be possible to get things running without bluetooth/tethering?

First of all, as you said, Ingress loads but waits for a code, and PK doesn't installs. That leaves us Life Is Magic as the only candidate to test(from now on LIS).
The problem with those type of games is that to play them in our Kindle it needs two things that it lacks, GPS and Internet. It has a pseudo localisation by wifi, but isn't as accurate as real GPS. On the other hand it can connect to Internet easily but needs an external provider of data by wifi.
My approach has been to give it coordinates by bluetooth from my GPS dongle and to give it Internet by tethering web data by wifi from my phone. Cumbersome but it has seemed to work ..... until I've run out of phone battery.
My question is, need LIS all the accuracy of a real GPS? or, if it exceeds its entertainment purpose, is the approximate wifi localisation of Kindle enough?
If so, just having a phone capable of "wifi zone" and a data rate would be sufficient as Kindle extracts coordinates from them. It is the next test I would do when my phone is fully loaded.... But if you have a phone like that, you can do the same test just now. If you need an explanation of that tell me.
Meanwhile I will test if installing Alien Droid¿? PK can be installed.
Kinology is based on a stock rom, and has the same benefits and disadvantages as can be achieved with the plain Kindle.
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EditK is a Jelly Bean app(the new version of Android system), so it does not install on the Kindle Fire Hd, that has ICS(a slight older but actual version of android). "Alien Droid" is a custom Jelly Bean rom made for the old Kindle Fire, incompatible with the completely different Kindle Fire Hd. Highway cut....
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Editing the edit: PK is compatible with Android 2.1 upwards, but seems that Amazon restricts its use "due to geographical restrictions" as I, European from Spain, can see on the USA web:
http://www.amazon.com/PerBlue-Inc-Parallel-Kingdom-AOT/dp/B004UO1QNC
It is the reason that an old Kindle Fire with a custom rom(Android Jelly Bean 4.2) or my phone with android 2.3.6 can play that game as there are not that restrictions.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111226194127AAN3bgq
On that web, a member of PerBlue, creators of PK says: "Unfortunately Kindle Fire doesn't currently support the Google Maps API necessary to play Parallel Kingdom."
But.... I have google maps installed(courtesy by Prokennexusa) and it doesn't installs...
I'm currently testing if an installation extracted with Titanium backup can be forced inside the Kindle, but no....

Definitively Life of Magic doesn't needs very much location accuracy to be playable.... I've tested it by real GPS or by WIFI points. It only needs to be near the interaction point.

I wasn't aware that KF & HD were that much different.
Yes, I saw that post on Yahoo. However, I also read on PK forums where a PK employee has eluded that it's possible to play on KF (not sure about HD) as discussed here:
http://forum.parallelkingdom.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20067&p=178336&hilit=kindle+fire#p178336
http://forum.parallelkingdom.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21470&p=184356&hilit=kindle+fire#p184356
You don't need a real GPS location to play PK (I know bcuz I've played years ago and spoofed the location). If that makes any sense. Without a location spoof, you can still travel the entire world and back without ever hitting the relocate button just by getting invites.
So Life of Magic works with bluetooth dongle? What about playing it/getting it installed without additional hardware?
I'm curious as to why Ingress installs though. I imagine Ingress would be more GPS-oriented than both LIM & PK.
In the back of my mind, I think all 3 games are playable on KFHD without additional hardware...of course, I'm not even 5% as tech savvy as you are...but just a hunch, and based on the fact that I know PK is entirely playable without ever having GPS on (you just need Wifi).

Have you guys considered using 1MobileMarket?
This is a Kinology HD using XDA Premium

LIM accepts the Kindle as is, autolocating by wifi, but you need wifi then. You only can play in your house or a place that can provide internet data to your kindle, you are fixed to a place. But if you provide internet with your phone you are free and kindle can aproximatively locate you.
Im not an expert, only a little bit more expert than you, but only time.
Owning a dongle has make me me to neglect some the wifi location used by kindle, but now I can say that it needs to compare the sources of wifi near to "triangle" its position. It doesnt need to connect nor know keys of access, only interact. The problem is when your phone is the only wifi near, far from other residential wifi.
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Pardon LIM.......but LIS sounds better.....
Ive sideloaded hundreds of apps on my kindle, only few have hanged, and only three not installing. One of them is PK.
Kindle has an Android highly modificated, with an incompatibility of code that refuses apps perfectly compatible with other phones or tablets. Im not a programmer , I dont know why it refuses to install.

Ya LIM does work. Odd, it didn't install before. I wonder if a ingress will work.
So u think it's impossible to play PK on kfhd?
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Cons of a rooted NC?

I'm on the edge of pulling the trigger for a NC. Since the NC was never intended to be a full fledge tablet I'm sure there are some annoyances from you rooted users. Once you get everything setup what are the cons? I have a rooted Samsung Vibrant running ClockWork on Team Whiskey, Nero ROM. What I'm reading I don't think I will go to Froyo since it is definitely usable but I get annoyed by such things like having to turn on/off screen to fix screen lag. I will most likely just keep it rooted from stock. The reason I'm interested in it is:
Lightweight, small form factor
Great resolution
Of course price.
I have two gripes:
1. No physical back button
2. Adhoc wifi requires turning on/off wifi
Both of these are hardware issues and not related to rooting.
I don't use the in-store feature so not having that doesn't bother me.
Do it, you can always unroot.
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Just want to clarify, don't have a NC yet. Don't want to buy it as an ereader.
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lucifurious said:
I have two gripes:
1. No physical back button
2. Adhoc wifi requires turning on/off wifi
Both of these are hardware issues and not related to rooting.
I don't use the in-store feature so not having that doesn't bother me.
Do it, you can always unroot.
Magically transmitted across the interwebs by my kickass NookColor!
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I don't know that the lack of physical back button bothers me, it has a built in gesture for back (swipe to the left on the menu bar) so it's not really a limitation, more a preference thing. The only real downside I've seen is lack of in-store features. There are some issues with the root, mainly some market issues where for some reason all of the programs don't show up. I used the NC for a couple of weeks in stock form and then decided to root, definitely worth it just for the sake of getting a browser with multi-touch enabled. However, I read a lot so that factors into how much I like it.
If you're just using it as an android tablet, it's really good. No GPS, no cameras, no 3g connection, but other than that it's fast with the best screen I've seen on a tablet and is just the right size. My phone has a 5mpx camera, 720p video and GPS and I have it on me all the time, so no need for any of that in a tablet. It also acts as a hotspot, so no need for 3g on the tablet. It's a perfect compliment to a decent smartphone.
If you love to tinker there's no cons. (and if you want a back button, Autonooter comes with Soft Keys that'll put one on the screen for you)
Despite the time it took to learn how to do it, and what to do with it afterwards, I got what I paid for and more. I love to learn and troubleshoot, so rooting this device has been a real treat.
At the moment I have a fully functional tablet that I use quite often around the house and at work. It's a convenient browser (I use Opera Mobile which has pinch zoom and slightly better page rendering than the build in browser), a quick source of the news thanks to a program included in the Autonooter kit, and a useful quick-note taking device.
I'll admit, my primary use for it is browsing, but when you root this thing, you can use any browser you want. I use Opera, but Skyfire and Dolphin HD are also good.
In addition to that, it makes a great portable movie player. The built in player supports MP4 and one other format, but if you root it, you can download Rock Player and play most commonly used video formats.
It's Youtube performance is excellent too, and there's quite a few Youtube video downloaders available in case you want to save your favorites to the SDCard.
Speaking of that, you will want to buy an SDCard. It doesn't come with one, and you might want more than the 5GB free of space you get out of the box.
All in all, it's pretty much a computer, and once you learn how to do everything to liberate it from it's shackles, there's no limit to what you can do with it.
As a tablet, it is awesome, and only getting more so. Lets be real - its GPU is the same as the Droid X, and is not the most perful on the market. Tegra 2 (and one or two others) will soundly beat it, but at a price. Cheaper T2 platforms tend (so far) to have horrible screens, poor battery life, and are large. Other devices like the Tab, just are way over priced.
I think the nook has struck an excellent ballance. It has an excellent CPU, a capable GPU, plenty of ram, and one of the best looking screens out there. I love its form factor (the bezel is one of few NON ugly ones out there), handling, and capabilities, and the price is excellent ($250).
It is also really getting a community behind it, and i think we will see in the near future, many more custom ROMS which speed things up, add features (bluetooth), and generally improve user experience. Right now is an exciting time to be a nook owner..
If you are not planning on reading you MUST buy a memory card. Many android apps are hard coded to look in /sdcard for things and can't read or write to the internal memory on the nook. Google earth is one example. This could probably be fixed by a developer in a custom rom.
Divine_Madcat said:
It is also really getting a community behind it, and i think we will see in the near future, many more custom ROMS which speed things up, add features (bluetooth), and generally improve user experience. Right now is an exciting time to be a nook owner..
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That was one of my main reasons for choosing it over the Archos 70. I think the fact that the NC provides such great bang for the buck and is available at retail outlets across the USA gives it the potential to have a much larger following than something like the A70.
Adding bluetooth functionality will complete this thing.
The only con I've really felt was no mic :/ there slapped in crappy 10 dollar mp3s but not a eReader for memos/notes (tho its not useful) I could see voice search for books valuable.
Obviously want it for Voip not memos, Bt will be a fix but still.
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Ditto to above. The lack of a Back button can be worked around, and really only comes into play while in certain apps that don't show the standard Nook status bar at the bottom. So you can't swipe. Using SoftKeys, and setup the right way, (see forum for more info on that), then you can change the Nook button to launch SoftKeys, which gives you the Back button, and also, as a bonus, a Task Switcher pops up at the same time.
The only drawback I see is that in order to have decent sized icons and text, you need to change the density of the screen. This is fine for everything except the built in Nook apps, like the Store and what-not. The reader itself is fine. It just cuts off some of the text, but it's still usable. Personally, I just use the Kindle app, anyway, and don't ever launch the Nook apps, so it's a non-issue for me.
EDIT: I also dearly want Bluetooth to work, so I can use my GPS and BT headphones. But at least there's a BT radio in the thing. Just need to get one of the wizards to get it working. Last I heard, it was working, but only to two feet. Give me 3 feet and I'll be happy. The lack of Flash is a real bummer, of course, but also to be fixed in an upcoming 2.2 release from B&N, or you could go and install 2.2 right now and boot from sd card. Apparently, it's working pretty well. And, the lack of a mic is a small bummer, but I'm also hoping a wizard will write a USB driver that will work with a webcam/mic. All do-able stuff. Just a little time needed.
As a tablet its great. It has shortcomings like others have said but you have to take into consideration that this hardware with an IPS screen for $250 is an absolute steal even considering those shortcomings.
I am a long-time Kindle user who recently got into the world of Android with my first smartphone purchase (HTC Aria). I have really fallen in love with Android, in large part due to the excellent community here at XDA. I had started looking for an Android Tablet and stumbled across all of the info about the Nook, after a week or two of research, I decided to just go for it. I figured if I bought it at Walmart, I would have at least 30 days to decide if I wanted to keep it... and even if I bricked it somehow, I don't think Walmart customer service would know the difference and would still refund my purchase. Well, I bought the Nook Wednesday morning, rooted immediately and ended up selling my Kindle Thursday night to a co-worker. This is the real deal and I would highly recommend it to anyone looking for an e-reader and tablet device, as long as they enjoy modifying it.
P.S. I haven't figured out why everyone feels the need to change the LCD density settings... everything looks great stock to my eye.
lucifurious said:
2. Adhoc wifi requires turning on/off wifi
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Just curious, what are you using ad-hoc wireless for? I use my android phone as a wireless hot-spot to provide internet to my Nook all night at work, that works fine, but I'm guessing that's not really ad-hoc or what you were referring to anyway.
I dont care for bluetooth, gps, or webcam. It doesnt bother me that flash doesnt work. I have flash on my phone and frankly, flash just makes webite load longer and most flash is just ads. It was an ok device preroot, now its a cheap capable tablet. I use it more than my pc. The only major gripe i have is that the edges of the screen seems to not register as well as the middle. But its not a dealbreaker.
Thanks guys. Just got one and its great! I was a bit skeptical at first after seeing before the root. Good info!
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911jason said:
Just curious, what are you using ad-hoc wireless for? I use my android phone as a wireless hot-spot to provide internet to my Nook all night at work, that works fine, but I'm guessing that's not really ad-hoc or what you were referring to anyway.
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The issue with Ad-Hoc is that some devices can not connect to Ad-Hoc networks. They can only connect to Infrastructure mode WiFi networks.
So the problem presents itself when a rooted phone using a wireless tether app is only capable of sharing WiFi via a Ad-Hoc network (Motorola Droid). The Nook Color then can not see the Ad-Hoc network and is unable to connect.
So the Ad-Hoc WiFi fix allows the Nook Color to see and connect to Ad-Hoc networks as well as Infrastructure networks.
If you have a newer phone, like the Droid X, I believe those phones transmit WiFi via Infrastructure mode, so there is no problem connecting any device to it as all devices work with infrastructure mode.
I hope that all makes sense.
Yep, that explains it. I wasn't aware that older phones were using adhoc wifi. Is that a hardware limitation or a ROM limitation?
911jason said:
Yep, that explains it. I wasn't aware that older phones were using adhoc wifi. Is that a hardware limitation or a ROM limitation?
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Hardware and software limitation, actually.
Most phones don't have a wifi chip capable of creating a true infrastructure-mode access point, but that is gradually changing. One of the reasons I bought an HTC Incredible is that it can.
But you also need tethering software that can use that mode. Newer versions of Wifi Tether can, for example, but older ones can't.

TetherGPS finally updated to work with ICS

The dev of TetherGPS has finally release an update to fix FC on ICS/CM9 devices.
I've waited a long time for this. Now I can use my Nook in the car as a Navigation device!
Go to Android Market to get update.
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Just went to the market and read about it. Actually looking for Bluetooth GPS myself. This one does look like a cool app, tho
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The NC bt is really weak no real antenna inside.
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My awesome gps setup is the following on a CM7.2 Mirage KANG NC:
GPS Receiver: Tom Tom Mkii (got for a lot cheaper, I think it was about 8 bucks).
Android APPs: Bluetooth GPS
Sygic GPS Navigation
This setup works awesome it has been very reliable so far, the receiver takes very little time to find the satelites. My in car setup is super cheap but it works, I use velcro with an old NC case to stick it to the windshield.
jgaf said:
My awesome gps setup is the following on a CM7.2 Mirage KANG NC:
GPS Receiver: Tom Tom Mkii (got for a lot cheaper, I think it was about 8 bucks).
Android APPs: Bluetooth GPS
Sygic GPS Navigation
This setup works awesome it has been very reliable so far, the receiver takes very little time to find the satelites. My in car setup is super cheap but it works, I use velcro with an old NC case to stick it to the windshield.
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cool setup...I haven't tried Sygic yet. Currently usiing Google Map and sometimes switch to Waze for the fun factor. How does Sygic compare to the other two navigation software? I see that it offers offline map data, which is a plus since I'm on limited Data plan.
jdpdata said:
cool setup...I haven't tried Sygic yet. Currently usiing Google Map and sometimes switch to Waze for the fun factor. How does Sygic compare to the other two navigation software? I see that it offers offline map data, which is a plus since I'm on limited Data plan.
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Yeah the offline maps is a plus for me since I don't have a smartphone to tether 3G or 4G. For me it has worked pretty good, the POIs aren't all there, but I'm in Puerto Rico. There are a couple of other GPS apps that are supposedly good, like Copilot (I tried this one but the map for Puerto Rico was incomplete). The other thing is that Sygic uses google to search for POIs too if you have internet connection, so for your it might be a good choice since it will only use very little data searching for stuff, and you would have an offline map.
jgaf said:
My awesome gps setup is the following on a CM7.2 Mirage KANG NC:
GPS Receiver: Tom Tom Mkii (got for a lot cheaper, I think it was about 8 bucks).
Android APPs: Bluetooth GPS
Sygic GPS Navigation
This setup works awesome it has been very reliable so far, the receiver takes very little time to find the satelites. My in car setup is super cheap but it works, I use velcro with an old NC case to stick it to the windshield.
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I am using almost the exact same setup... only diff is Navfree USA.
I would love to see a walkthrough on how to use the nook as a car gps.
My iPhone just seems tiny after i use my nook for a while.
Peoplephobic said:
I would love to see a walkthrough on how to use the nook as a car gps.
My iPhone just seems tiny after i use my nook for a while.
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Step 1: buy nook color
Step 2: wait a month for cyanogenmod to implement bluetooth in CM
Step 3: try to get a windows mobile 6 phone to send the GPS data via bluetooth for a month or so, pull out half of hair.
Step 4: try to get a symbian OS phone to send the GPS data via bluetooth for a month or so, pull out other half of hair.
Step 5: before committing suicide, just bite the bullet & buy first AndroidOS phone. Discover that Android on a phone is amazing. Discover that most Android phone hardware sucks.
Step 6: buy four more AndroidOS phones, discover huge horrible unfixable hardware design issues with each, discover bank account drained.
Step 7: find exactly one android phone with only one hardware issue (wifi range sucks), but otherwise is perfect (Droid RAZR) WE WILL NOT DISCUSS LOCKED BOOTLOADER ISSUE, THIS IS NOT A HARWARE PROBLEM. AHHHHH!!
Step 8: After having no money left, having spent it all on bad android phones, decide that the four dollars or whatever TetherGPS costs is too expensive.
Step 9: Suddenly remember the reason there is no money left, was to try to get GPS to work on the Nook Color
Step 10: Spend the four dollars, install TetherGPS on both phone and Nook, it just works (TM). Use whatever GPS software you please, there is plenty to choose from.
^^^ although funny, it's not all that difficult to get NC as a GPS device.
1. Your Android phone must be rooted. And it must support Infrastructure Mode tethering. I've had success with CM7 and Miui based roms.
2. Download and install Android-Wifi-Tether v. 3.1 beta 11. Google it you will find it. Once you have it installed test to make sure you can successfully tether.
3. Buy and install TetherGps both on phone and NookColor.
4. Start Tethergps as server on phone. The icon will turn blue when it has good gps lock.
5. Start tethergps as client on NookColor. Again icon will turn blue once gps is located.
6. Open your fav navigation app (Google maps is very good) you should see a blue dot at your current location.
This has been my setup for awhile now. Works great!
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Anyone know of a way I can get this to work with my stupid iPhone?
Peoplephobic said:
Anyone know of a way I can get this to work with my stupid iPhone?
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Check out this video, I don't have any iPhone so I can't try. But from what I can understand this guy is getting wifi/gps from his iphone into his android tablet:

GPS?

The ifixit teardown indicated the possibility of a GPS capable chip in the 7" model.
Anyone load a GPS app and see if you get any results?
Thanks!
Google Maps location doesn't work, and I have been unsuccessful sideloading any of the GPS apps I have available. All fail on install.
What about one of the free GPS apps on the Amazon app store, like:
http://www.amazon.com/EclipSim-GPS-...ps&ie=UTF8&qid=1348158531&sr=1-1&keywords=gps
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What about one of the free GPS apps on the Amazon app store, like:
http://www.amazon.com/EclipSim-GPS-...ps&ie=UTF8&qid=1348158531&sr=1-1&keywords=gps
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Hmm well interestingly enough that one installed. It took a while, but it gave me a coordinate read out as well (see screenshot, I blanked out my location but you can see what I mean). I'm not familiar with that app, so I don't know if it uses Wifi at all for determining location. It does have an option for "do not launch if GPS is not enabled" though and that is set by default. Yet, it works. You have my wondering now, I'll keep playing with some of the other apps I'm a bit more familiar with and see if I can get them to install.
The OS build might not have adequate drivers to run the GPS. This might get fixed once we get a different ROM....someday.
I have google maps up and running, though I believe it is functioning off wifi location, the location is off a little. I installed GPS satellite app and it launches, gives me data but does not show that it is picking up any satellites.
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I have google maps up and running, though I believe it is functioning off wifi location, the location is off a little. I installed GPS satellite app and it launches, gives me data but does not show that it is picking up any satellites.
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I got GPS Test Plus installed and see the same. It doesn't find any satellites, but it is indeed finding my location based on Wifi. Acurracy of only about 200 feet. Think we are SOL for now.
UPDATE: I am playing with it more (it has a handy green light when it has GPS signal) that is yellow with WIFI off, and Green with it on. Seems to indicate it only uses Wifi for location.
even if gps is on the chip, maybe there's no antenna ?
So far no joy on getting any sort of GPS working. I bought a TomTom BlueTooth GPS module and it will not pair with the Fire HD. I get a message saying that the BlueTooth device is not compatible. None of the apps to make it work will even install.
Amazon apparently went all out in preventing people from using GPS. From what I understand the Nook will allow you to use a BlueTooth GPS.
FWIW, I tried using Google Maps on the way to and from work the last few days, and it is starting to get pretty good at finding my location via WiFi. Most of the time it was showing me within a block of my actual location, and sometimes it was actually tracking me accurately, even showing me driving up to an intersection and stopping right at the intersection. It seems to get better every time I take the same route.
I did discover that the Fire HD has a magnetic compass and accelerometer. But the compass is not very reliable.
I have a sneaky suspicion that there were some lawyers involved in these decisions...
Amazon took it really out of their way to lock down their tablets. They don't want people to use anything that doesn't rely on their services. Such as maps, either it be google, Bing, tomtom, anything not made by them. Amazon never activated voice search, the potential is there (apk in system files) but until they make it used through their ecosystem, KFHD will probably never see it. They even make it annoying to change the keyboard. Supposedly according too their website, BT only works with headphones. That is a complete limitation and annoyance.
As for GPS, I can see it somewhat irrelevant on a device that is wifi only and was omitted, though I do enjoy it on my N7. Something, I believe it was hootsuite would constantly annoy me about location services when I had it turned off, as they claimed it was turned off via twitter and had no options and I had it off in my twitter. Location services on the KFHD killed my battery for some unknown reason.
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As for GPS, I can see it somewhat irrelevant on a device that is wifi only and was omitted, though I do enjoy it on my N7.
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How so? With Maps you can download your entire city to use offline. If you start Navigation while online, and give it a couple of minutes to cache the info, it will take you all the way to your destination offline. I tested this on a 5 hour trip, and the audible turn-by-turn took me all the way to the destination, even though in some places the map itself was blank, and it didn't know the name of the street or exit. "Take the exit on the right" instead of "Take exit 6" It was even able to do some limited rerouting offline (which is something fairly new)
Besides, now I have a MiFi and a phone with a portable HotSpot. .On long trips, however, I turn off the MiFi while underway unless I need a major reroute, or need to find something. On a long trip a few weeks ago, my wife called from our tax accountant's office and needed some info from an old bank statement. I was out in the middle of nowhere in Alabama, and I though I was going to have to drive to Birmingham to find a Wells Fargo. So I fired up the MiFi, and asked my N7 "Google...where is the nearest Wells Fargo?" and it found one in a small town less than 10 minutes away and led me straight there.
Driving in Atlanta drives me insane. Now with the MiFi and Google Maps, I can see where the stop-and-go traffic jams are and get around them.
Irrelevant??? Not hardly!
I REALLY wanted the GPS to work on the Fire HD because the pitiful speakers on the N7 aren't loud enough to hear turn-by-turn directions in heavy traffic or heavy rain, or while the radio is playing. And the washed out screen on the N7 makes it hard to make out the streets (white and yellow on off-white) They stand out much better on the Fire HD's screen.
Not everyone tethers data through their phone or device. Most cell phone plans still require additional payment services. I refuse to pay another $35-$40 a month just to tether data. If I want to use GPS, then I use my phone or my Garmin Nuvi, though I prefer google maps since they are mostly up to date.
Caching maps, ok, but you need to know exactly where you want to go. Without data, the GPS is useless unless you are using a strict GPS app to determine location only. Amazon took it out to reduce costs. While it's nice to have, it's irrelevant to their entertainment device, they don't want you to use maps anyways.
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Would it be possible to make a hack to enable spp bluetooth profile on KFHD. Because the tomtom bluetooth gps receiver uses that profile.
I have to completely agree with drhanley i wish i could have at least bluetooth gps on the kindle fire hd.
Drhanley have you seen in the android market bluetooth spp app make an app from the market could enable the spp profile needed for tomtom gps receiver ????????

Anyone able to run the app called utter!?

OK, I've been wrecking my brain trying to figure out why I can't get the app to run on my note 4. I've been to the devs. Xda page for the app. But he has been mia since February and my post keep getting ignored. I thought I'd make a last ditch effort and try here. Basically the app crashes when I try to launch it. I've downgraded Google search in hopes that it would fix the issue but no luck. I'm running a stock rooted 4.4.4. Any help would be appreciated.
Runs on my stock Rugby Pro running stock 4.1.2 Jelly Bean well enough to allow voice dial and texting from the bluetooth headset on my motorcycle helmet. Without the headset, it is hit-and miss because the app always tries online via wifi first. If in good wifi it still works, but when not good wifi it hangs for a variable (sometimes long) time looking for network. I loaded tasker to toggle wifi off/on when bluetooth is connected, and this seems to fix it well for use daily on my commute by motorcycle. If I drive, I'll probably need to use a bluetooth earpiece. I get the feeling that planets must align for this to work, and it does for me. Developer seems to have abandoned it. I think offline voice recognition - at a minimum for voice dial - should be a mandatory capability for all phones. (And S Voice does NOT work!) If I had not found a fix, I was planning to put my SIM back in the old Rugby II flip and just use the Pro for wifi. They are company phones, and I only went the smartphone route to get company email.
Loading the original Play store version worked for me initially, with no crash issues but still experimenting and learning commands. Then I loaded the latest beta (see page ~ 720 of his main thread) and it seems even better, and Tasker fixed the wifi issue somewhat.
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Thanks for the reply. I have the latest beta install but I still have no luck. I'm wondering if another app such as a antivirus app could be causing it to give me an error.
Doubt it is anti-virus (but possible). Most likely Google Search version or Android version. Check the official thread and find tge ones known to work. I'm just lucky to have a six-month old phone with three-year old software, I guess.

Can I get GPS somehow?

sorry if this ends up being a duplicate thread, I don't see my original post
I have used Perfect Android to strip down my fire hd to android. It's working great, I can do everything on it that I could do on my phone; albeit slower lol. So my Kindle has been collecting dust for quite some time, and everyone is talking about Pokemone GO... my Asus Zenfone2 isn't supported for the game so I thought I'd try to boot up my kindle into some android version to see if it would run the game for fun.
It runs the game but the Kindle lacks GPS and all of the applications that I tried do not work in some fashion or another. I believe I tried 7 of them to no avail. I followed all the instructions such as hitting the tick mark for "allow mock locations". The closest app to working was the 1 suggested from this site Tether GPS, but when accessed it actually crashes on both devices.
So I'm just wondering if there is any good idea's on how to get a working GPS on the Kindle so that the game will work. Thanks in advance. =)

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