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Hey people, look at these 2 pictures, that I just have taken:
With the backcover on:
http://www.4shared.com/file/53179104/2a29789d/Med_cover.html
And without:
http://www.4shared.com/file/53179169/2c2a3a6/Uden_cover.html
As you can see, there is a big difference. Hmm, why haven't HTC done something to this problem?
Are you sure you were at the same distance?
And what about the focus point? It seems a bit different between the 2 pics.....
flaviopac said:
Are you sure you were at the same distance?
And what about the focus point? It seems a bit different between the 2 pics.....
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Yes I'm very sure about that. I have tried with more pictures.
did you stick a 'lense protector' on the cover's lense screen? like if you stuck on a full body protector like invisibleSHIELD there'll be a piece for the lense cover too.
Or, did you forget to peel off the original one?
happyguy82 said:
did you stick a 'lense protector' on the cover's lense screen? like if you stuck on a full body protector like invisibleSHIELD there'll be a piece for the lense cover too.
Or, did you forget to peel off the original one?
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Haha, no i'm not that stupid Nothing "protection" is on.
the "lens" that is part of the back cover is obviously not optically neutral. Pretty lame if you ask me.
Syphon Filter said:
the "lens" that is part of the back cover is obviously not optically neutral. Pretty lame if you ask me.
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Without the back cover, the Diamond takes decent pictures, still slow on focusing and shutter release(you should see the Samsung F480, this little fellow shoots pictures almost like a normal digital cam) but pretty good for a 3.2 MP cam.
WITH back cover however, the pictures look like crap to me. Sometimes it looks like if the pictures have been taken through light fog and I can clean the lens cover as much as I want(not easy, tiny little bastard), after some time, the lens gets dirty/whatever again. Horrible, HTC definetely needs to find a better solution.
Here some more http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1365731&page=43&pp=15
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remove the small mirorr in a back cover that protect the camera from dust
Aqrab said:
remove the small mirorr in a back cover that protect the camera from dust
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It will "destroy" the backcover? hmm. And when the mirror is gone, dust can easier come into the camera lens?
mooooooa said:
It will "destroy" the backcover? hmm. And when the mirror is gone, dust can easier come into the camera lens?
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look i didnt try it but i think if we remove it the camera quality will increase
the htc p3600 and the touch dual doesnt have mirror for camera
Aqrab said:
look i didnt try it but i think if we remove it the camera quality will increase
the htc p3600 and the touch dual doesnt have mirror for camera
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Yes, of course the quality will increase, when a cheap plastic cover is removed But hmm, my Diamond is 2 days old, and I don't want to already destroy a part of the cover
mooooooa said:
Yes, of course the quality will increase, when a cheap plastic cover is removed But hmm, my Diamond is 2 days old, and I don't want to already destroy a part of the cover
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the problem is man that
when we want to clean the mirror we cant clean it good from the outside
we need to clean it to get better quality
Aqrab said:
the problem is man that
when we want to clean the mirror we cant clean it good from the outside
we need to clean it to get better quality
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But we can't clean the mirror everytime we just wanna take a picture. That's not a good way?
mooooooa said:
But we can't clean the mirror everytime we just wanna take a picture. That's not a good way?
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well ideally you should or you should remember not to put you fingers on the lens (not an easy task given the camera position i know) but lets be fair here, i mean its not as if you would take your stand alone digital camera, smear you greasy hands over the lens all day (+ let dust collect on it) and then expect it to take perfect pics...
be practical, if you remove the case screen for long you are gonna end up with scratches on the actual camera lens! and that's not easily replaceable now is it (not like the back cover...) lol
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But we can't clean the mirror everytime we just wanna take a picture. That's not a good way?
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yah i know
im jast saying when we want to clean it
remember not to put your fingers on the lens
What we need is a back cover with a piece of glass in place of the piece of plastic which covers the lense.
This seems like the only solution to me.
Its because the plastic isnt very durable, it does mist up the photos. If you look on coolsmartphone.com ive also took some pictures and they looked alot better without the back plastic cover on.
I just hope someone somewhere is reading this as i would pay for a back cover with glass instead of plastic lense cover.
The pictures are alot sharper and arent misty without the cover on.
tomchap said:
What we need is a back cover with a piece of glass in place of the piece of plastic which covers the lense.
This seems like the only solution to me.
Its because the plastic isnt very durable, it does mist up the photos. If you look on coolsmartphone.com ive also took some pictures and they looked alot better without the back plastic cover on.
I just hope someone somewhere is reading this as i would pay for a back cover with glass instead of plastic lense cover.
The pictures are alot sharper and arent misty without the cover on.
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Your right!
white balance
Granted the backcover lens protector doesn't do justice to this phone. Adjusting the white balance does for improvement (say the lighhtbulb mode) I find. Again the camera does let this phone down, compared to others of similar spec. Can a software tweak solve the lag in motion when shooting in video mode at all? Is it as a 'simple' case as that I wonder!?
I just did some test shots with my xda diamond from germany and I honestly cant see a difference. can you tell which one is taken with the cover off?
Hi there,
I have the HTC Kaiser service manual, but I'm trying to determine if I really need to open the phone all the way up in order to do this.
My 3MP camera on the back has a piece of something that is on the lens from the inside. Every picture I take has a shadow of this speck of... well, I don't know what.
Anyhow, I need to open the camera lens cover that's next to the speaker, but I'd rather not have to go pull apart the entire phone. The frustrating part is they show how to remove the camera, but they don't flip the board back over so I can see if I can get inside the little box and clean it.
Has anyone tried this? I see some disassembly threads here, but no one has concentrated on specifically cleaning the camera so far.
Thanks,
TTFN
greggerca said:
Hi there,
I have the HTC Kaiser service manual, but I'm trying to determine if I really need to open the phone all the way up in order to do this.
My 3MP camera on the back has a piece of something that is on the lens from the inside. Every picture I take has a shadow of this speck of... well, I don't know what.
Anyhow, I need to open the camera lens cover that's next to the speaker, but I'd rather not have to go pull apart the entire phone. The frustrating part is they show how to remove the camera, but they don't flip the board back over so I can see if I can get inside the little box and clean it.
Has anyone tried this? I see some disassembly threads here, but no one has concentrated on specifically cleaning the camera so far.
Thanks,
TTFN
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haven't had the need to disassemble my kaiser yet but you can hit up mikechannon and ask his help on this.
cant you just pop the battery cover off and clean it out?
Nah... it's under the cover that's under the battery cover. If I take a picture without the battery cover, the crud is still there. It's just a speck. I can see it, but it's on the wrong side of the glass.
TTFN
Did you ever get the dirt out from the wrong side of the lens? I have the same problem only I have quite a bit of dirt on the backside of the lens.
Thanks,
Frank K
No, I couldn't find any diagrams that showed the next level of disassembly of the actual camera part. Since this is my only phone right now, I didn't want to do too much exploratory surgery.
The gunk is still there of course. I just don't know how it got in there in the first place...
Sorry I couldn't help more.
TTFN
Hi
Did just now try to take a picture with and without the backcover on the phone, and without it, the picturs just looks so much more colorful and nice. How do we fix this?
An example: img851[dot]imageshack[dot]us/g/img047d.jpg/
Change the [dot] to real dots. (duh)
Sorry for bad eng, but I hope you understand.
kruppin said:
Hi
Did just now try to take a picture with and without the backcover on the phone, and without it, the picturs just looks so much more colorful and nice. How do we fix this?
Sorry for bad eng, but I hope you understand.
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I also have this question after saw the LG VS iPhone photo and video quality test. The O2x's photo like have a white filter and non colorful .
I already ordered it and waiting for arrive. Can u post some compare photo? The original and without the back cover?
Is it possible to replace the Transparent part by DIY a higher quality glass/plastic?
It's night here, so only indoor photos, but you'll get the idea.
And WHY do LG-Home FC every single time I put it into USB Mass Storage? Need custom roms, now!
Anyways, here's the link to some photos packaged with winrar. The last two is shot in a half-dark room with the flash.
www[dot]megaupload[dot]com/?d=NRUVCSR0
Apparently I couldn't post links, so change the [dot] to actual dots.
Kruppin, I get "The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later" when I try to download. Got another location to dl from?
Edit: Nevermind, the link is working again
Thanks!
I did try this myself now, but couldn't see any difference. But it might be because its dark here now and cant really get any good shots anyway.
drrogern said:
Kruppin, I get "The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later" when I try to download. Got another location to dl from?
Edit: Nevermind, the link is working again
Thanks!
I did try this myself now, but couldn't see any difference. But it might be because its dark here now and cant really get any good shots anyway.
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Ofc you get it working right when i've uploaded it elsewhere. Hm, maby you've got a better glass, cus if i look through it, it's like "milky" or something. Anyway, another guy on swedroid noticed it too, so I thought it was for everyone.
Kruppin, yeah typical I'l probably try this tomorrow. Lets just hope there's a replacement cover to order somewhere soon if this really is the case
Btw, thanks for the info!
I tried this myself and i couldn't believe my eyes, the difference is pretty massive.
on the plus-side the camera is actually REALLY good without the back cover on
eurit said:
I tried this myself and i couldn't believe my eyes, the difference is pretty massive.
on the plus-side the camera is actually REALLY good without the back cover on
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Yeah, it's like "Wait, I'm just gonna take the backcover of so I can get a decent picture"
But I just can't beleve LG made THIS of a big screwup, i mean, I don't know what to say, I'm speachless. And also they didn't say it had "gorilla glass" which only that can be deal-breakers for many. I think they rushed this phone alittle too much. Dont get me wrong, I love it, but it's some small things I just can't understand how they missed. If LG would replace the backcovers, then I would absolutly love them, but that wont ever happen so hopefully someone releases a replacement cover with a better glass, and looks as nice as LGs own.
Okay, some strong alcohol and very much polishing have made it almost as good as w/o. Yay. Just to polish with a cloth didn't work, which is why I made this thread. So try that.
Can you...somehow remove (gently) the plastic glass from the back cover?
edit, im looking at some pics of the back cover, seems impossible to remove it w/o damaging the rest....thank you LGGGGG
kruppin said:
Okay, some strong alcohol and very much polishing have made it almost as good as w/o. Yay. Just to polish with a cloth didn't work, which is why I made this thread. So try that.
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OReally?
What kind of tools should I use for the polishing?
Only alcohol is need? Any other material?
Question is: is it really the glass itself that causes the problem ?
Or could it be that because of the bad positioning of the lens cover fingerprints / dirt can easaly create a fatty film on the glass?
Did you polish the front AND back of the glass or just the side facing outwards?
sounds to me like it could be related to the light sensor being disturbed by the cover
jan1000 said:
Question is: is it really the glass itself that causes the problem ?
Or could it be that because of the bad positioning of the lens cover fingerprints / dirt can easaly create a fatty film on the glass?
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Yes and no, it must be some bad glass, becouse it's enough to just have one fingerprint and the pics sucks again. Or if its too far from the actual lens, so its that what f*cks it up? (It kind of focuses alittle one the fat/dirt) However, I've never got this problem with any other phone, my old N900 for example doesn't care if it's got fingerprints or not. Ofc it doesnt have two glass like the LG have, but thats no excuse.
atkhobby: Yes, I polished both sides of the batterycover. I drained some "cottonsticks" (tops) with alcohol and just polished. BUT, when i touched the glass on the cover again, the picture is worse, but not as bad as first.
Maybe someone knows of something that make glas fat-resistent? I mean, some phones the screen just get fatty almost directly, and some is very resistant and can be cleaned easy.
And again, I hope you can understand my not so good english.
Hi all
i dont know how the hell the camera glass has been scratched hardly. the camera capured images is very blurry and very dull. is this part avaleble in market ??? tell me guys what should i do...???? i m posting image for the glass... plezz help me guys.....
apologies sir, but saying you dont know how it happened doesnt make sense
Akshay00smart, I'm not sure about the glass part but you can buy a replacement back piece that I think includes the camera glass.
http://stellatech.com/site_stellatech/articles.php?cid=1095
The item number is GH98-16686A,R price is €10.87
I would send the company an email and ask to make sure.
Your kind of answer is indeed much better.
Man...relax
xmsnx said:
Akshay00smart, I'm not sure about the glass part but you can buy a replacement back piece that I think includes the camera glass.
http://stellatech.com/site_stellatech/articles.php?cid=1095
The item number is GH98-16686A,R price is €10.87
I would send the company an email and ask to make sure.
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I do have an issue with the scratched camera glass. However, changing the cover won't solve it since the cover doesn't include the glass.
OK,
Here are two possible parts from one website.
https://www.globaldirectparts.com/U...alaxy-S-i9000-Back-Housing-p/smsng6087205.htm
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/Samsung-S-i9000-Camera-Lens-p/smsng6087120.htm
The problem is that the site doesn't sell to individuals, they do wholesale only.
Hope some can point to the right place.
Cheers.
Abdul
Linuxnizer said:
OK,
Here are two possible parts from one website.
https://www.globaldirectparts.com/U...alaxy-S-i9000-Back-Housing-p/smsng6087205.htm
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/Samsung-S-i9000-Camera-Lens-p/smsng6087120.htm
The problem is that the site doesn't sell to individuals, they do wholesale only.
Hope some can point to the right place.
Cheers.
Abdul
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i think a service cetre would replace the glass relatively cheaply and it is something you could ask for a price on over the phone, and they would probably fix while you wait or at most within 1 or 2 days
Linuxnizer said:
I do have an issue with the scratched camera glass. However, changing the cover won't solve it since the cover doesn't include the glass.
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Hmm, Not entirely sure but if you look at the second photo it shows the glass part.
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Hmm, Not entirely sure but if you look at the second photo it shows the glass part.
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Yep, internal back cover does include the glass. However, the above first photo includes only the external back cover which doesn't include the glass.
i know this reply will not benefit the op but just want to keep this on record for someone else who might stuble here from google,
today i removed my old 5230's frame and tried to replace it with i9000's (it was of the same size) but when i tore the piece down, i came to know that the "frame" was attachedc to the body, like this
(the silver covering cane be removed) m talking about the "scratched part".. so no way to remove i shattered it to pieces and kept my old frame on the camera and tried to assemble the device, it dint assemble properly, and thus has a slight opening at the top right side(above the power button)... other things are working fine, the camera is no longer blurry (although i still need to test it in sunlight, will do it tommmo and report back) .. so in short , dont do it unless necessary, replace it with another back body, it'l save your hassle ...
slaphead20 said:
apologies sir, but saying you dont know how it happened doesnt make sense
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seconded
dont know how it happened?? i also dont know why i live.....
well as for my country, juz go to any spare part shop out there, they will got one set for 150MYR, i m sure ur country hav some spare part shop to be spared...
Hi all, I was wondering if (and if yes HOW) you are protecting the lens of your camera ?
It's the first time I have a phone with the camera in relief compared to the body of the phone, and I'm always so worried I might scratch it. I have the case provided by Huawei so at least when I put it on a table the lenses are not touching. I did some research and saw that they make some protections for lenses, but I would like to have your opinion. TY !
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Hi all, I was wondering if (and if yes HOW) you are protecting the lens of your camera ?
It's the first time I have a phone with the camera in relief compared to the body of the phone, and I'm always so worried I might scratch it. I have the case provided by Huawei so at least when I put it on a table the lenses are not touching. I did some research and saw that they make some protections for lenses, but I would like to have your opinion. TY !
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Back-Cam...var=690154848930&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649