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Jerky performance problem, is it RAM or too many apps etc?

Hi all,
Was wondering if anyone experience jerky performances.
I have about 10 pages of apps installed mostly games and stock apps.
When I use advance app killer, usually i see stock apps eg. facebook, browser, ebook, etc.. When I kill them all, performance doesn't improve much.
If the 10 pages are the reason, any way to know which is running in background and sucking up resources?

The performance of your Gtab is jerky coz of the apps that run in the background even if you close them they restart.. u cn use startup auditor app to increase performance... if all fails hard reset nd install only required Apps not the apps u don't use but run behind nd eat up RAM nd battery
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a certain app may be using up too much background resources. try uninstalling the culprit. detct it by trial and error

I was in a similar situation until I last had to factory reset my Tab due to the whole issue with Google Apps Google Accounts not having access to Google Checkout on the Android Market.
Installed over 100 apps on my first day with the Tab (over-excited, I know ), and realized that my Tab started to lag when opening the app drawer. The problem became most apparent when I shut down or rebooted the Tab; it would literally take minutes to boot up, and often it would freeze and force close my launcher several times in a row.
I chalked it down to having too many apps, but later read that many apps start themselves up on boot even if they had no reason to (e.g. Amazon, Aldiko, etc.)
I've since only installed apps that I would really use throughout the day, but would you guys say that so long these apps do not run on startup (say I disable them using the Autostarts app), I can install a hundred or even two hundred apps without the boot up lag?

So there's no way to see which app is running in background and % memory used, similar to windows task manager?
When I use Advanced task killer, are those 'apps shown' considered as background apps or are background apps invisible?

From my RAM manager, I see like 180+ to 200mb out of 400+mb. I think that's the remaining RAM ?
Anyone knows the stock RAM out of the box?

It might be because carriers pre load crap on them
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Installed the free startup app and found the culprits ... GAMELOFT games. They are huge in size and think they eat up the memory in background/at startup.
After disabling, all back to normal.

olyloh6696 said:
a certain app may be using up too much background resources. try uninstalling the culprit. detct it by trial and error
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Why on earth would you want to detect it by trial and error when there is plenty of apps you can use to find it specifically?
bzie said:
So there's no way to see which app is running in background and % memory used, similar to windows task manager?
When I use Advanced task killer, are those 'apps shown' considered as background apps or are background apps invisible?
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Use a app like system panel, It will show you all the running apps and there memory/cpu consumption etc.

TheATHEiST said:
Why on earth would you want to detect it by trial and error when there is plenty of apps you can use to find it specifically?
Use a app like system panel, It will show you all the running apps and there memory/cpu consumption etc.
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wow. i never knew of such app. please share.

olyloh6696 said:
wow. i never knew of such app. please share.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1

StarLog said:
https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1
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cheers!
sorry outta 'thanks'

[Q] need app

Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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Delete the useless apps like FB.....
And use ram manager pro from play store..

Advanced Task Killer from playstore is one of the best app that y are looking for!!
If i helped you hit thanks button
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Log off your Facebook account
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Advanced Task Killer from playstore is one of the best app that y are looking for!!
If i helped you hit thanks button
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Task killer can harm your phone
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dagger said:
Delete the useless apps like FB.....
And use ram manager pro from play store..
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IAmNice said:
Of freeze them!
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NRG001 said:
Log off your Facebook account
Task killer can harm your phone
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Thanks guys for checking my post
But the problem is that i need this apps but i just want them to start whenever i want not whenever they wont
I cant freez fb because the synced contacts will be gone
And sure thing I wont be using task killer
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NRG001 said:
Log off your Facebook account
Task killer can harm your phone
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task killer does not harm your phone
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Zewarxx said:
Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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open the app once..go in settings force close it.. it wont start again till you connect internet..

I use ES task killer , mainly reason is to clean cache fast.And delete facebook app is like twilight for your phone.
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Alternatively you can enjoy ur facebook through any good browser like one browser and manage ur ram with ram manager pro.
I do it that way.
Officially corp via w8

Mockingbird said:
I use ES task killer , mainly reason is to clean cache fast.And delete facebook app is like twilight for your phone.
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hehe I need it to sync contacts
leecorp said:
Alternatively you can enjoy ur facebook through any good browser like one browser and manage ur ram with ram manager pro.
I do it that way.
Officially corp via w8
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I'm using it also thanks buddy
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cybervibin said:
So i saw many posts on which people have asked as to which task killer should be used !
and then i stumble upon this site which provided me the details,
*I HAVE NOT WRITTEN THIS*
sources-by Chris Hoffman
http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/
Android Doesn’t Manage Processes Like Windows
Most Android users are familiar with Windows. On Windows, many programs running at one time – whether they’re windows on your desktop or applications in your system tray – can decrease your computer’s performance. Closing applications when you’re not using them can help speed up your Windows computer.
However, Android isn’t Windows and doesn’t manage processes like Windows does. Unlike on Windows, where there’s an obvious way to close applications, there’s no obvious way to “close” an Android application. This is by design and isn’t a problem. When you leave an Android app, going back to your home screen or switching to another app, the app stays “running” in the background. In most cases, the app will be paused in the background, taking up no CPU or network resources. Some apps will continue using CPU and network resources in the background, of course – for example, music players, file-downloading programs, or apps that sync in the background.
When you go back to an app you were recently using, Android “unpauses” that app and you resume where you left off. This is fast because the app is still stored in your RAM and ready to be used again.
Why Task Killers Are Bad
Proponents of task killers notice that Android is using a lot of RAM – in fact, Android stores a lot of apps in its memory, filling up the RAM! However, that isn’t a bad thing. Apps stored in your RAM can be quickly switched to without Android having to load them from its slower storage.
In summary, you shouldn’t use a task killer – if you have a misbehaving app wasting resources in the background, you should identify it and uninstall it. But don’t just remove apps from your phone or tablet’s RAM – that doesn’t help speed anything up.
Empty RAM is useless. Full RAM is RAM that is being put to good use for caching apps. If Android needs more memory, it will force-quit an app that you haven’t used in a while – this all happens automatically, without installing any task killers.
Task killers think they know better than Android. They run in the background, automatically quitting apps and removing them from Android’s memory. They may also allow you to force-quit apps on your own, but you shouldn’t have to do this.
Task killers aren’t just useless – they can reduce performance. If a task killer removes an app from your RAM and you open that app again, the app will be slower to load as Android is forced to load it from your device’s storage. This will also use more battery power than if you just left the app in your RAM in the first place. Some apps will automatically restart after the task killer quits them, using more CPU and battery resources.
Whether RAM is empty or full, it takes the same amount of battery power – decreasing the amount of apps stored in RAM won’t improve your battery power or offer more CPU cycles.
hope u understood!
words of wisdom by fellow-mates
go into settings - apps and see how many running apps you have. now go to cached apps and see there, how many apps there are. you see? nearly 50% of those apps discovered by you in the processes are apps that you didn't opened ever but they are still opened and running. why? because that's how linux manages its resources. instead of having free ram for no use (what's the point of having 14gb of ram when you only use 1gb), linux fills all the ram blocks with useful apps or apps that you are running frequently so that when you call that app, it will bring it on the screen almost instantly. this my friend, is called multitasking.
and no, you are wrong. if you use a task killer killing the apps every 10 minutes, the cycles the whole system does - opening again apps and caching them, task killer closing them - results in much more functions done by CPU => more battery spent. even if you say that the battery life its the same, you are wrong. when using a task killer IT MIGHT drain your battery with 0.1% per hour. it's not that much, but IT EXIST.
oh and yeah, one thing: android has its own task killer. that's why you don't need one app to kill your other apps. because android its doing it by itself. if you don't believe me, strip down one kernel, open the init.rc file and find the values for task killer.
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Zewarxx said:
Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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I don't know if this is helpful or not but I'm trying to help you. I don't recommend you to use an application to block apps from starting on their own because it will ruin how Android managed it memory consumption. Since you've talked that Facebook app takes about 50MB of RAM I recommend you to use this instead of Facebook official app.
Hope I helped you.

Thanks man I got it now its bad to do such a thing
^_^
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True functional app autokiller

Hi all!
My question sound's like this...is there any app (payd or not) which definetlly do his work? I mean, when you tick the app which you want to kill for a defined period of time, the app truelly kill that app pour a la long free memory espace. Get it?
The ideea is that when you want to make an app never be active, this app which I want to know, to help you.
Lets take an exemple : the "Phone" app. It remains in phone memory ram and consumes it, and I can't get rid of it.
Hope somebody understands what I have written
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The important apps will reappear no matter how many times you kill them.
And talking about the task killers, android has its own task management system and it is advisable not to use the task killer apps..
sent from my phone using hands and brain...

Ok then, but is it normal to have on jb less than 70 free memory?! :|
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'Free' memory is wasted memory. It's part of Linux memory management. You should only worry if apps go slow or something.

bregan90 said:
'Free' memory is wasted memory. It's part of Linux memory management. You should only worry if apps go slow or something.
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Well, this might be the efect...if it remains little memory, my device begins run slow
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I use App Quarantine to lock/freeze apps I dont use often, if I want to use the app I locked just unlock it from the list just easy & simple in use. This is the app u was searching for . It really does the job. Check playstore its free

I kinda face same problem for example my WIFI is off and my 3G is also off I am not using what's app, viber, facebook at that moment but still I see these apps on background and they are consuming my phone's ram. I stopped them and somehow they comeback again.

shez555 said:
I kinda face same problem for example my WIFI is off and my 3G is also off I am not using what's app, viber, facebook at that moment but still I see these apps on background and they are consuming my phone's ram. I stopped them and somehow they comeback again.
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Answer for you is also App Quarantine

short answer, no.

Application in background

Hello!
I have a question,i have a 40-50 aplication that work in background,when i open task killer and start ,always is open 40 or 50 system or user application ,i use a task killer every 20minutes and always is the same. How can i permenetly shut down that open aplications,becouse it drain my battery very fast and i can use my phone only 5 hours.
What aplication is the best for task killer and how can i solve this problem?
Is nessesery to be open so many working aplication? Is this have effect on battery?
Sorry for my bad english_
Thx in advance!
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40-50 apps? I guess it's showing you the running processes and not apps. Some of them maybe system processes. And you can disable the apps through settings-applications-running-click on a app and disable. And 5 hours battery life isn't very bad if the usage is continuous with WiFi on!

Yes, i think that is a process running. I dont use wi-fi only gprs and still 5 hours of battery is a very litlle time to use_
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Look 5 hrs when youre using your phone constantly isn't very bad! How old is your battery? Do hit thanks if i helpes

Battery is 2 months old.. but i wont to solve problem with that process that open in background,is that also normal? To be so much open,some of that is process but some of that is program..i will put a screenshot..
RUNNING PROGRAM:50!! I DONT USE HALF OF THAT BUT STILL IS OPEN,how can i close em down?
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It isn't normal for so many processes to be running. You are using the Touchwiz firmware. When you restart your phone and start an app, say messaging, it takes a certain time to open. Now when you close it(Not force close), and open messaging again, the time required for it to open will be significantly lesser than the last time as the process is running in the background. What I'd suggest yoy to improve your battery life is you make it a habit to periodically close the recent apps(long press home and slide the apps sidewards). And for apps like viber, uninstall them if you don't use them because apps relating to IM like gtalk, viber, skype, whatsapp will always run in the background. And do go to settings-battery to check out the battery consumption and you'll know the culprit there
Try this app Greenify if your phone is rooted, works wonders
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...eenify&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd

Ya. Greenify is able to hibernate downloaded apps.
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or you can try go to settings > developers options > limit background processes > and set limit to 4 process only, it doesnt affect stability and it boost performance a bit for me
I think it can help a little,..
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As a general rule, free RAM is wasted RAM (except when it gets too low): http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care.
As you will read, task killers are additionally counter-productive, because most of the killed apps will restart, using more battery and cpu. The most sensible way to preserve battery and resources it to use app like Autorun Manager or Autostarts, with which you can disable specific triggers causing selected apps to autorun.
If you care about battery saving, you can find more info in those two threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1878828
P.S. 5 hours of active usage on Note I is not that bad
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The for these answers.
It helps me a lot. I don't have rooted phone
But can I root the phone and get access to system and root files but I want to keep this official ROM but still have rooted phone, is that possible?
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Very much possible bro. Just root the phone, don't install any new ROM. There are very safe threads on how to root here in the android development forum. The PhilZ method is very easy and recommended.

What about upadete? If I root the phone,if there be an official update can I download and update the phone or 4.1.2 is the last that this phone will get? When I root the phone then I will can turn off this background programs and process?
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And one more thing:can you left me a link to philz root.. I don't have a computer and if you can make me search easier I will thank you a thausend time
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jjoeshua said:
And one more thing:can you left me a link to philz root.. I don't have a computer and if you can make me search easier I will thank you a thausend time
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2201860

Follow that link above. And after you root, you'll be able to use apps like greenify and the others suugested earlier in the thread. The app greenify is very useful, developed by a xda member, it allows you to hibernate apps so that a non-system process starts only when you use the app and not by itself. And yes you'll be able to update though im not sure if there will be a 4.2.2 update for note any soon. Anyway once you root, you can always install a supported custom ROM with the highest android version!

jjoeshua said:
The for these answers.
It helps me a lot. I don't have rooted phone
But can I root the phone and get access to system and root files but I want to keep this official ROM but still have rooted phone, is that possible?
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Yes. It is possible to have stock rom with root. Try searching for philz kernel. Get the one that matches your rom and flash it in recovery mode. But of cause your recovery will be changed to CWM recovery.
And it is also possible that you will not he able to.get OTA or Kies update anymore.
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How to clear ram easily on Sony Xperia TX ?

How to clear ram easily on Sony Xperia TX,any app or trick.But no rooting.
Thanks in advance
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nafay142 said:
How to clear ram easily on Sony Xperia TX,any app or trick.But no rooting.
Thanks in advance
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Really have limited idea without root
1. Cannot remove bloatware
2. Cannot convert system app to user app, in example Chrome and FB app
3. Cannot using tweak
4. etc
The easy way is
1. Buy a new phone with 2 GB RAM or more
2. Using a task killer
3. Using app that have features auto kill ( many task manager have feature like that )
4. Limit the maximum running process, see at developer option
5. Do not install to many app
6. etc

Thanks for your helo
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Yenkazu said:
Really have limited idea without root
1. Cannot remove bloatware
2. Cannot convert system app to user app, in example Chrome and FB app
3. Cannot using tweak
4. etc
The easy way is
1. Buy a new phone with 2 GB RAM or more
2. Using a task killer
3. Using app that have features auto kill ( many task manager have feature like that )
4. Limit the maximum running process, see at developer option
5. Do not install to many app
6. etc
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Hi,
Regarding your advice No. 2, the task killers in not rooted phones seem not to really kill tasks. Because, the purged tasks return to the memory after a few minutes! Is this correct?
Thanks

rezasani said:
Hi,
Regarding your advice No. 2, the task killers in not rooted phones seem not to really kill tasks. Because, the purged tasks return to the memory after a few minutes! Is this correct?
Thanks
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Actually, no need root to kill any app
If app return back after you kill it, it because app behaviour itself
In example, FB, G maps, Whatsapp, and any social app that require keep in memory to receive any push notification
Since task killer just kill app, not force close them, of course, the app will be back ASAP
This is why I say, we have very limited choice to optimize without root