I want to buy lg 4x hd but I'm not sure whether it supports usb otg or not ? (or usb host)
If the os would be updated , does it have any affect ?
thanks a lot
jasin91 said:
I want to buy lg 4x hd but I'm not sure whether it supports usb otg or not ? (or usb host)
If the os would be updated , does it have any affect ?
thanks a lot
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Unfortunately it doesn't, at least right now. We're still not sure if it's a hardware limitation or a software one, but maybe in the next few months we will, with the coming of Custom ROMs on top of the unlocked bootloaders.
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Unfortunately it doesn't, at least right now. We're still not sure if it's a hardware limitation or a software one, but maybe in the next few months we will, with the coming of Custom ROMs on top of the unlocked bootloaders.
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thanks, anyway do you suggest me buying it ?
any other smartphones equal in price ?
jasin91 said:
thanks, anyway do you suggest me buying it ?
any other smartphones equal in price ?
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I'm still inline for buying it, but I guess it depends on your needs and wants
I want a replacement for my Samsung Corby that will (1) last me 3 years or more without feeling like something from the last century, (2) allow me to play some games, from basic ones to the more advanced ones and (3) something I can take everywhere without thinking about it (unlike my tablet). All of it without (completely) breaking the bank
That list got me to the 4X. It's the most affordable quad-core, and that gives me a guarantee for (1). It's a Tegra 3, which gives me a fair try at (2) at least for a year or two. And, with a 4.7" screen, it's smaller than many 4.5" devices I've seen (and unfortunately quad-core devices seem to be allergic to anything smaller than that).
Btw, it doesn't hurt that it allows for connection to a HDMI TV through a MHL adapter.
The USB-OTG feature is, unfortunately, also missing from some other competitors on its price range (like the Nexus 4), which also lack other stuff I value, like expandable memory. And, while the gaming compatibility might be better in the Nexus 4 and the S3, I don't mind missing a few games to have better graphics in the ones made for the Tegra 3
As a way to go around the USB-OTG, I intend to buy a large-enough micro SD (16 or 32GB) and take advantage of the ICS/JB USB transfer, which is much better than it was on my Froyo tablet.
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I'm still inline for buying it, but I guess it depends on your needs and wants
I want a replacement for my Samsung Corby that will (1) last me 3 years or more without feeling like something from the last century, (2) allow me to play some games, from basic ones to the more advanced ones and (3) something I can take everywhere without thinking about it (unlike my tablet). All of it without (completely) breaking the bank
That list got me to the 4X. It's the most affordable quad-core, and that gives me a guarantee for (1). It's a Tegra 3, which gives me a fair try at (2) at least for a year or two. And, with a 4.7" screen, it's smaller than many 4.5" devices I've seen (and unfortunately quad-core devices seem to be allergic to anything smaller than that).
Btw, it doesn't hurt that it allows for connection to a HDMI TV through a MHL adapter.
The USB-OTG feature is, unfortunately, also missing from some other competitors on its price range (like the Nexus 4), which also lack other stuff I value, like expandable memory. And, while the gaming compatibility might be better in the Nexus 4 and the S3, I don't mind missing a few games to have better graphics in the ones made for the Tegra 3
As a way to go around the USB-OTG, I intend to buy a large-enough micro SD (16 or 32GB) and take advantage of the ICS/JB USB transfer, which is much better than it was on my Froyo tablet.
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infact I want a "quad core processing unit" with "powerful dedicated graphic processor" and "big high quality display" and among
htc one x
samsung galaxy sIII
samsung n7100
lg nexus 4 e960
lg p880
the 4x hd is the least expensive !!!!
so I selected that.
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Unfortunately it doesn't, at least right now. We're still not sure if it's a hardware limitation or a software one, but maybe in the next few months we will, with the coming of Custom ROMs on top of the unlocked bootloaders.
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I had tried to plug into my 4x a card reader with red power indicating led. The led will light up on connection regardless of presence of card.
However it did not light when i connected it to my 4x, indicating no power was sent out of the usb port. My guess its a hardware limitation.
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L2Deliver said:
I had tried to plug into my 4x a card reader with red power indicating led. The led will light up on connection regardless of presence of card.
However it did not light when i connected it to my 4x, indicating no power was sent out of the usb port. My guess its a hardware limitation.
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That would mean it can't power the USB device. So, an interesting test (which I remember reading about here somewhere, but don't recall the result) would be trying to connect either a 3.5" portable HDD (that comes with an external power source) or an externally-powered USB-HUB.
Can anyone try or, in case they already did, share the result?
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That would mean it can't power the USB device. So, an interesting test (which I remember reading about here somewhere, but don't recall the result) would be trying to connect either a 3.5" portable HDD (that comes with an external power source) or an externally-powered USB-HUB.
Can anyone try or, in case they already did, share the result?
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i tried that too, nope. Nothing shows up on USB Host Diagnostic app.
Tested using external HDD with two USB males (one for power one for data). Plugged the power end into my PC's usb, powering up my HDD. then plugged the data end into my OTG cable. Nothing.
L2Deliver said:
I had tried to plug into my 4x a card reader with red power indicating led. The led will light up on connection regardless of presence of card.
However it did not light when i connected it to my 4x, indicating no power was sent out of the usb port. My guess its a hardware limitation.
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If it is a Hardware limitation then we wouldn't have OTG ever on our phones, even with custom ROMs.
Tho we would need official confirmation from LG, if anyone has it.
it isnt a hardware limitation. tegra3 supports usb otg. you can see that on kernel logs and the kernel actually has usb otg support enabled. my guess is that android doesnt handle it properly.
when you enable it on o4x, usb switches to host mode successfully, but android doesnt recognize it
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gordon0001 said:
it isnt a hardware limitation. tegra3 supports usb otg. you can see that on kernel logs and the kernel actually has usb otg support enabled. my guess is that android doesnt handle it properly.
when you enable it on o4x, usb switches to host mode successfully, but android doesnt recognize it
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So it's all an LG software mess-up.
gordon0001 said:
it isnt a hardware limitation. tegra3 supports usb otg. you can see that on kernel logs and the kernel actually has usb otg support enabled. my guess is that android doesnt handle it properly.
when you enable it on o4x, usb switches to host mode successfully, but android doesnt recognize it
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When we were talking about hardware limitation, we were mentioning more along the lines of the micro-usb port. For example, they might have used a port which doesn't allow for that type of communication.
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When we were talking about hardware limitation, we were mentioning more along the lines of the micro-usb port. For example, they might have used a port which doesn't allow for that type of communication.
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A Port? Or you mean the way the port is wired to the device? Because all USB ports have data transfer.
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A Port? Or you mean the way the port is wired to the device? Because all USB ports have data transfer.
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Inside a port there's a bus or interface, a separate chip. Its this part of the story that could be the part causing external thumbdrives or card readers not receiving power from our phone, even if tegra 3 or kernel or OS supports.
If the thumbdrive doesn't even receive power then it have no abilities to even cry of its existence.
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Inside a port there's a bus or interface, a separate chip. Its this part of the story that could be the part causing external thumbdrives or card readers not receiving power from our phone, even if tegra 3 or kernel or OS supports.
If the thumbdrive doesn't even receive power then it have no abilities to even cry of its existence.
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What if it's just the kernel/software limiting it to give power..?
Monskiller said:
What if it's just the kernel/software limiting it to give power..?
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could be a cause but logically speaking its not likely caused by it. According to USB Diagostic tool our kernel supports OTG.
meanwhile psy is having a live youtube premier of his new track http://www.youtube.com/user/officialpsy?feature=inp-lt-psy-SG
L2Deliver said:
could be a cause but logically speaking its not likely caused by it. According to USB Diagostic tool our kernel supports OTG.
meanwhile psy is having a live youtube premier of his new track http://www.youtube.com/user/officialpsy?feature=inp-lt-psy-SG
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I guess we'll find out when the kernel source is released. Maybe it'll give the ability to enable OTG ourselves if something in the software/kernel is stopping it ftom functioning.
any news?
After the Kernel Source was being released, is it possible to install the otg funktion?
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After the Kernel Source was being released, is it possible to install the otg funktion?
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Me want to know that, too. This is the last option which is missing! btw i am using CM (nightly).
Thanks =)
I think kholk is working on it.
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My laptop has a hdmi input. I was going to see how Earth and legend looked on a larger screen than a 4.3" screen. When I connect from the thrill to the laptop, nothing happens. Is it not possible to connect to the laptop or am I needing to click something?
I googled and youtubed but couldn't find anything related to the thrill and a laptop.
Thanks in advance.
Are you sure its an input, not an output? I have never heard of a laptop with a HDMI input, usually you want to put your laptop onto a big TV, instead of putting a peripheral onto a laptop screen.
The Thrill plays extremely nice with my 1080p Vizio. Netflix looks better using a HDMI cable and phone vs the native Netflix app on my TV. But, that might be because my phone consistently gets twice the bandwidth my home connection does.
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Oh I don't know. It's a port that's labeled HDMI. I just assumed it was an input. Okay, so is there anyway to run the HDMI to the laptop or is it pretty much a TV thing?
Maybe it could be done with special software. I also have a laptop with a HDMI port. I could not find anything remotely close to an option to turn that into an input through the Windows (W 7 64 bit ultimate) settings.
I also did a few Google searches about using a laptops HDMI port for input, and the resounding response I found was that its basically unheard of. They make special adapters for that, the run over USB. The "worlds first" laptop to natively support this feature came out less than a year ago.
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Are you sure its an input, not an output? I have never heard of a laptop with a HDMI input, usually you want to put your laptop onto a big TV, instead of putting a peripheral onto a laptop screen.
The Thrill plays extremely nice with my 1080p Vizio. Netflix looks better using a HDMI cable and phone vs the native Netflix app on my TV. But, that might be because my phone consistently gets twice the bandwidth my home connection does.
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It's not possible to turn your output into an input. It's a hardware limitation.
in this day and age why hell don't they make the laptop screen work like an optional monitor with most new devices being digital HD it should only add little to the cost.
Ok Speaking from hardware side
Ok I work for a large Semiconductor manufacture. That HDMI port is an output. In order to use your Laptop display try to find a TV Tuner for you laptop with HDMI inputs. They maybe hard to find if at all, and if you do find them they will be pricey.
Good Luck
colbur87 said:
It's not possible to turn your output into an input. It's a hardware limitation.
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This is not exactly true...
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yoneilio said:
This is not exactly true...
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Depends. If the hardware doesnt allow for it then it wouldnt be possible on a software level. I assume thats what he meant. Of course with enough know how you could probably make changes on a hardware level to allow for it.
Gps Mount
Case
OTG Cable
32gb USB stick
I don't think I missed anything right?
Screen protector.
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Screen protector.
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included with the case.
Once you get the case, can you comment on how much bulk it adds? I've been seeing that case everywhere, but I'm concerned it'll pretty much negate the N7's slimness...
I will, I'm hoping it's not much myself
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ive got the roocase with smart cover
32 gb flash drive and otg cable
wired 360 controller and ps3 controller for gaming
im gonna buy screen protector when it arrives and the wait is killing
I JUST read that the nexus 7 does not have usb on the go aka USB HOST.
Which makes that memory card and host cable useless unless you find a rom that will enable it. CM9 coming for nexus 7? Hopefully!
EvilDeadFan said:
I JUST read that the nexus 7 does not have usb on the go aka USB HOST.
Which makes that memory card and host cable useless unless you find a rom that will enable it. CM9 coming for nexus 7? Hopefully!
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Root + Stickmount.
what about one mobile power? also known as exteral battery charger/power bank. designed to charge cell phones and lots of usb devices. very handy and helpful when you are outdoor.
hope it helps~
The case you got seems to be the cheapest alternative for us Canadians. I've seen a few for Americans (through Amazon) that are less than $10. Sucks that we can get owned North of the border most of the time...
I just tried the OTG cable (that was purchased for the Samsung Galaxy S3) works perfectly on my non rooted Galaxy Camera. No additional software required, it worked straight out of the box. It saw my usb stick and files all useable
apprentice said:
I just tried the OTG cable (that was purchased for the Samsung Galaxy S3) works perfectly on my non rooted Galaxy Camera. No additional software required, it worked straight out of the box. It saw my usb stick and files all useable
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Nice info mate.. thanks.
Now all we need is just "phone enable mod" and we are complete
Can you copy files to an USB stick that's formated in NTFS? That would be ideal when you are abroad and need to empty the camera. Probably you can copy to FAT32 but if you record long movies NTFS would be the better choice. Why I ask is because if you use NTFS on for example my nexus 7 it's only read on NTFS and not write compatible.
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For NTFS i use Paragon NTFS but you need root.
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You mean for the nexus 7? Why I'm asking is because of I'm thinking of getting a galaxy camera and want to know what I can use on it before I buy it. Probably I will root it if I get it.
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Yes I discovered it working fine today too. What I really want however is to be able to store photos from the camera straight into a memory stick hanging from the USB OTG. It's greyed out. Hmm.
sarajw said:
Yes I discovered it working fine today too. What I really want however is to be able to store photos from the camera straight into a memory stick hanging from the USB OTG. It's greyed out. Hmm.
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No that doesn't work as you say. I am wondering why you'd want to do this anyway. Surely you can either use a larger memory card inside or just transfer over to the OTG as and when using the file manager? Also I think there would be an additional risk in accidently unplugging your OTG whilst taking pictures with the greatest possibility of corrupting your card and worse, losing your photo's.
I think
I think the OTG opens possibilities to external hardware options, like flash, light etc
Hi guys this shoud work on the lg g2 great for watching my F1 on the go and without using loads of data on my phone great kit.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310802737212?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
This is awesome. I wish it was cheaper here in the US
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This looks very cool. Any confirmation that it indeed works? Most of the phones listed I think use mhl, not slimport and I'd think this would only work with mhl compatible phones which the G2 is not.
This has nothing to do with MHL. It should work with anything that supports USB OTG. It's not outputting any signal...
@op You should actually try this http://www.tivizen.com/icube/nano/index.html
The reason behind my suggestion and because I have searched the whole DVB-T micro usb android tuners a lot is that with the one you are suggesting the micro usb port is occupied by the tuner. As a result, you will not be able to charge your phone at the same time. So, imagine yourself with 10% battery and the F1 race just starting, Waht would you prefer... being able to charge your phone and watch the race at the same time or watch the first 10 (max) minutes and then wonder what has happened during the rest of the race.
Otg charge y cable is what you want ....charge and org same time ?
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Do these support the North American channels, and does this use Verizon Data to stream these or is it just over the air signal?
Use your brain.. why would it have its own antenna and be called a "tuner" if it required smartphone data ?!?
You never know, did you design the equipment, people are trying to exploit costs everywhere.
Cool product. Wonder if this works? I travel often, usually hotels have cable, but you never know.
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In the specs of the item listed in the OP, it states the device must have Neon support. Can anyone confirm our device has this support? I have tried reading the cpuinfo file but have been unable to open the file as text to confirm this. If indeed our devices do have Neon support, then I see no reason why it shouldn't work.
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In the specs of the item listed in the OP, it states the device must have Neon support. Can anyone confirm our device has this support? I have tried reading the cpuinfo file but have been unable to open the file as text to confirm this. If indeed our devices do have Neon support, then I see no reason why it shouldn't work.
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All Snapdragon SOC's have Krait CPU's which have NEON.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krait_(CPU)
Well I've been searching about MHL support on the Moto X and I discovered that actually he doesnt support this king of cable, to stream the content to a TV via HDMI. But I also heard that its a SOFTWARE limitation, not a hardware one... So in theory we could activate this function.
Anyone knows a way or a custom ROM that supports it?
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Well I've been searching about MHL support on the Moto X and I discovered that actually he doesnt support this king of cable, to stream the content to a TV via HDMI. But I also heard that its a SOFTWARE limitation, not a hardware one... So in theory we could activate this function.
Anyone knows a way or a custom ROM that supports it?
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Seems it is a HW limitation, the needed chip is not there, to me anyway. But there is no workaround, there are post confirming this.
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Seems it is a HW limitation, the needed chip is not there, to me anyway. But there is no workaround, there are post confirming this.
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It is a workaround indeed - Miracast. It even has advantages comparing to the HDMI - no physical connections. It is a bit more expensive but it worth the price.
piskr said:
It is a workaround indeed - Miracast. It even has advantages comparing to the HDMI - no physical connections. It is a bit more expensive but it worth the price.
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are there miracast dongles that exist that are complete garbage? for my needs, Chromecast does everything I need it to. I haven't had a need for HDMI since its release.
I have problem that my lg TV finds the moto x and I accept the connection on the phone but connection fails. I'm disappointed in the moto x, although its a great phone I won't buy another.
640k said:
are there miracast dongles that exist that are complete garbage? for my needs, Chromecast does everything I need it to. I haven't had a need for HDMI since its release.
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It depends of your needs. I must admit that I don't possess the Chromecast, I just borrowed it once from my friend. But as far as I could learnt, it doesn't do screen mirroring, it can only transfer certain video. And you can't transmit audio separately, the screen aimed for video must have its own audio production too (loudspeakers). You can't use plain monitor with the Chromecast if you want to have audio. Or I missed something?
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It is a workaround indeed - Miracast. It even has advantages comparing to the HDMI - no physical connections. It is a bit more expensive but it worth the price.
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Well I know its an option, but It doesnt fit me since I wanna play games like Modern Combat 5 using it. Wireless connections has too lag so its not suitable for it...
-Luigi. said:
Well I know its an option, but It doesnt fit me since I wanna play games like Modern Combat 5 using it. Wireless connections has too lag so its not suitable for it...
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So how about an android TV stick with a decent/comparable GPU. Play your games from that...?
samwathegreat said:
So how about an android TV stick with a decent/comparable GPU. Play your games from that...?
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How about $$$$$ ? hahaha