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I mean seriously watching this video the buttons don't even vanish when you're in an app. I mean seriously how did Google think this was a good idea? Means you just hit them all the time or you have to be really careful where you touch and they don't change to which way you hold the phone.
How hard is it to A. Use that massive bottom part of the Bezel with Hardware buttons or B. Have some kind of gesture to hide them? I don't care if there is some rooted app out there, it needs to be standard, I just don't get how Google have overlooked this. People keep making a case that software buttons are better because you can change them....... have they ever changed? They've been the same standard design since I started using Android and whocares if they change in the future? I'm using my GS2 and the buttons work fine, just because they look different doesn't mean they have less functionality.
this may come off as I'm defending the Nexus 4 mindlessly but I'm not a huge fan of touch screen gaming. The whole reason I got the Evo Shift instead of a higher end phone was for the keyboard so I could play my games the way I like. I actually just bought a PS3 controller for my phone but I have to wait until Sixaxis Controller updates for 4.2. Though of course it doesn't work with most app store games, but I don't really enjoy playing those anyways
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vha62lcGSgs
I mean seriously watching this video the buttons don't even vanish when you're in an app. I mean seriously how did Google think this was a good idea? Means you just hit them all the time or you have to be really careful where you touch and they don't change to which way you hold the phone.
How hard is it to A. Use that massive bottom part of the Bezel with Hardware buttons or B. Have some kind of gesture to hide them? I don't care if there is some rooted app out there, it needs to be standard, I just don't get how Google have overlooked this. People keep making a case that software buttons are better because you can change them....... have they ever changed? They've been the same standard design since I started using Android and whocares if they change in the future? I'm using my GS2 and the buttons work fine, just because they look different doesn't mean they have less functionality.
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This is not a Google problem, this is an ap developer problem. They can design the game to function like you want but they choose not to. Blame them, not Google.
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The whole point is to create the "physical button feeling" yet have them flexible for different apps. I think its a great idea! Physical buttons are annoying and are locked into doing only one function. Getting rid of the navigation buttons is like telling apple to get rid of the app dock at the bottom of their phone..... that's the way it was designed for the majority of users. If you don't like it then find a way to change it....you can its Android.
Dude chill... the software buttons are just another method like capacitive touch buttons..just incorporated into the screen. jus look at the specs of the nexus 4 as it has a 4.5 inch screen... if u cant live with that and want a bigger screen then fine move on and get the one x+ or something that has 4.7 inch screen plus capacitive touch buttons.unless you want THEM to disappear in an app too...
If we are going to complain about button placement can we not start with developers persistence with placing menu buttons at the top of most apps! They either have long fingers or small phones. I found this annoying on my SGS1 and very annoying on my Note 2, for obvious reasons. IMO Boat Browser is one of the few browsers that have placed the menu and navigation buttons in a sensible place.
I'm actually a big fan of the software buttons. This is one of the reasons I changed from the OneX to the Nexus4.
There are so many more interface possibilities with the software buttons, and as mentioned earlier the software devs need to make their apps more aware of their presence.
I haven't had to used on screen buttons with my gnex for about 10 months now and same with my Nexus 7 since I got it. There's a way to remove the on screen buttons by modding the res-framework apk. It's as simple as finding the option and and changing it then recompiling the new apk and pushing it to your phone.
Not sure if it's still this simple since I haven't had to do it for a while now that there are a few roms with the option to remove the Nav buttons. I would try if I had the Nexus 4 but that might not be for an while now.
I'm sure this feature will be included in nexus 4 roms too just be patience. I'm the meantime you can check out LMT, its a nav button alternative that uses pie menu that disappears when not in use.
If done right, the on-screen buttons are actually great.
If there are no dedicated buttons. they could either make the screen bigger, or remove the bezel on the bottom of the device, making it significantly smaller.
Also, there needs to be an option to hide them manually whenever you want, whether the application supports hiding the buttons or not. I know that there are such features in CM10 and other custom ROMs, but this needs to be a default feature on any device with on-screen buttons.
I like the buttons and they are not visible when viewing full screen video. That to me is when I care most about the screen space.
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I love the buttons. Looks so much better than actual hardware buttons.
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A lot of us like the onscreen buttons. If you don't, get another phone. Most don't have them. Those of us that like onscreen buttons have like 2 options, you have 100000. If Google puts capacitive buttons on the next Nexus because of whiners like you, I'm gonna be really upset.
I would have preferred hard buttons and a full 4.7 screen. Similar to the One X. There are only 3 phones with on screen buttons. Most game devs are gone make thier games for the biggest market which is hard button phones.
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I'm actually a big fan of the software buttons. This is one of the reasons I changed from the OneX to the Nexus4.
There are so many more interface possibilities with the software buttons, and as mentioned earlier the software devs need to make their apps more aware of their presence.
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So am I. It makes navigating through the system easier and a lot smoother. Just like the multitasking icon, you don't have to press and hold like in the galaxy s phones for example. Also OP, the software keys disappear when you watch a vid, YouTube etc.... And you mentioned that they should use the bottom bezel, well that's where the notification light is.
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NardVa said:
There are only 3 phones with on screen buttons.
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Nope. There's lots. The two Nexus, all the new Motos, Sony have started using them (Xperia T), Asus Padfone uses them too.
I hate people like op. If you know that this device has on screen buttons - and you should know this by now because there was galaxy nexus with same buttons- why the fcuk did you buy it in the first place? The whole spec sheet is there, all the info about the phone is written down... I knew it has glass back I knew it has non removable battery or no SD card or friggin buttons. Don't complain if you know what you're buying
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I hate people like op. If you know that this device has on screen buttons - and you should know this by now because there was galaxy nexus with same buttons- why the fcuk did you buy it in the first place? The whole spec sheet is there, all the info about the phone is written down... I knew it has glass back I knew it has non removable battery or no SD card or friggin buttons. Don't complain if you know what you're buying
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The worst thing about this phone is its ability to attract users like the OP who don't bother to look at what they are getting and then to come in here on XDA and create the most ridiculous threads. I hate that about this phone. Anyone know a fix?
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At first I thought it would bother me coming from a Gs2 Skyrocket but really it looks so much better. It does make it so much easier to navigate and if you don't like em we have all the best devs migrating to the N4 so I'm sure we will have many different setup options soon. I'm loving the stock right now though buttery smooth.
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I change my buttons all the time. Google may not, but I like my menu and search button. I much prefer on screen buttons.
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Hi guys, my One has got extremely unresponsive screen, is there any mod to fix the issue?
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If it has an unresponsive touch screen it's faulty. This has the most responsive touch screen I've ever used
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sebsal said:
If it has an unresponsive touch screen it's faulty. This has the most responsive touch screen I've ever used
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I cut my nails. Went from dodgy response on screen to perfect. Thinking the HTC One is not a phone for vain girlies
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sebsal said:
If it has an unresponsive touch screen it's faulty. This has the most responsive touch screen I've ever used
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I hope you're right. I did a side by side comparison of my Nexus 4 and HTC One Developer Edition, and for me I can confirm there is definite input latency on the HTC One (at least on the specific device I received). On my HTC One, a good way of checking this was in the browser -- if I placed my thumb on the screen and held it there (in an area that doesn't have a link so a dialog box doesn't pop up), and VERY VERY SLOWLY rocked my thumb up and down, the screen didn't scroll at all. Not only that, but at this point if I kept my thumb pressed on the screen and moved it at any speed up and down the entire display, nothing happened at all. It's not only until I removed my finger from the screen and placed it back down again that the touch input worked again. This DOES NOT happen on my Nexus 4 -- rolling my thumb ever so slightly results in very minor scrolling -- the way it should work. I will hopefully record a video of this and throw it up on YouTube so you can see what I'm talking about.
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I hope you're right. I did a side by side comparison of my Nexus 4 and HTC One Developer Edition, and for me I can confirm there is definite input latency on the HTC One (at least on the specific device I received). On my HTC One, a good way of checking this was in the browser -- if I placed my thumb on the screen and held it there (in an area that doesn't have a link so a dialog box doesn't pop up), and VERY VERY SLOWLY rocked my thumb up and down, the screen didn't scroll at all. Not only that, but at this point if I kept my thumb pressed on the screen and moved it at any speed up and down the entire display, nothing happened at all. It's not only until I removed my finger from the screen and placed it back down again that the touch input worked again. This DOES NOT happen on my Nexus 4 -- rolling my thumb ever so slightly results in very minor scrolling -- the way it should work. I will hopefully record a video of this and throw it up on YouTube so you can see what I'm talking about.
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That is very interesting indeed. I can confirm the same behavior on my One. Time to pull the SGS3 out of mothballs and see what happens there.
Must be something wrong with the DEV edition, because my UK One is faster and smoother than my old S3, Sony Xperia Z and Nexus 4. There's no input latency on my One, certainly none detectable by humans. Also on the test above, the screen moves perfectly fine.
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Must be something wrong with the DEV edition, because my UK One is faster and smoother than my old S3, Sony Xperia Z and Nexus 4. There's no input latency on my One, certainly none detectable by humans. Also on the test above, the screen moves perfectly fine.
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I posted my video on the issue here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZpMRCKJkR8
Also if you hold your finger to the screen and move it very very slowly, it won't scroll at all until you start increasing the speed of your movement.
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I posted my video on the issue here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZpMRCKJkR8
Also if you hold your finger to the screen and move it very very slowly, it won't scroll at all until you start increasing the speed of your movement.
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Same thing happens on my Note II, never really bothered by it though..
Hey all, just wondering which ROMs (if any) have the htc logo converted to a menu button (as I'm sure many have heard is a possibility).
I am also wondering if any are planning on enlarging the hit-box for the home and back buttons, as they seem to need a much more precise touch to trigger than my previous HTC phones.
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Hey all, just wondering which ROMs (if any) have the htc logo converted to a menu button (as I'm sure many have heard is a possibility).
I am also wondering if any are planning on enlarging the hit-box for the home and back buttons, as they seem to need a much more precise touch to trigger than my previous HTC phones.
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It's a kernel implementation and thick lizards new Wolfpack has it.
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For those of you who have used both phones, I would like to know whether or not there is any difference in one handed usage between these phones?
This is how I define one handed usage: Use phone with one hand without shuffling or moving the phone in your hands and being able to reach all points on the display of the phone including the capacitive buttons below the display.
Thanks.
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For those of you who have used both phones, I would like to know whether or not there is any difference in one handed usage between these phones?
This is how I define one handed usage: Use phone with one hand without shuffling or moving the phone in your hands and being able to reach all points on the display of the phone including the capacitive buttons below the display.
Thanks.
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I tried the HTC One today, it is easier to use with one hand than the S4...
This is just in case someone has the same question as I did.
darkgoon3r96 said:
For those of you who have used both phones, I would like to know whether or not there is any difference in one handed usage between these phones?
This is how I define one handed usage: Use phone with one hand without shuffling or moving the phone in your hands and being able to reach all points on the display of the phone including the capacitive buttons below the display.
Thanks.
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Go to a local carrier store and try the phones out for yourself. They usually have them out on display. I think that will help you find out which is better for one-hands use. First world problems...lol
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Go to a local carrier store and try the phones out for yourself. They usually have them out on display. I think that will help you find out which is better for one-hands use. First world problems...lol
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Exactly! Hah
htc one is easier to hold in the hand due to the 4.7in screen. however i still feel anything past 4.5in is a stretch for my hand anyway.
S3 and HTC One one handed use
I have used my brothers S3 and that has bigger dimensions then the S4. I can only assume the S4 is easier to use then the S3 then. I will assume they are the same for the sake of this post.
Reaching the task bar is probably the same;
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/129790-image/Samsung-Galaxy-S4-vs-HTC-One-01.jpg
Consider where the phone will sit in your hand - the bottom part of the htc bezel is a bit bigger, so it is quite close. Launchers like apex launchers have gestures where a downward motion anywhere on the screen will bring down the taskbar.
The power button is right at the top of the HTC One.and to unlock it you need to flick your thumb from the bottom of the screen upwards. These 2 things are IMPOSSIBLE to do with one hand without shuffling.
ALSO, Sense does not let you get rid of the lock screen
Fix's - looking around here apparently some kernals allow you to use the volume key or Home key to wake the screen.
I'm going to try an app that 'wakes' your phone dependent on it's sensors.
FOA: Sorry for the bad english in the thread and in the video, i'm italian, so everything will sounds alot like a "mammamiapastamafia" thread. Good thing that i put the subtitles in the video! :3
Hey guys! As you should know the Nexus 4 is affected by various problems...one of the most annoying surely is the "hard to press" power button. Well no fear my friends! This tutorial will show you how to fix the problem!
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READ CAREFULLY
- I don't take any responsability with this. This fix require you to open your Nexus 4. Don't try it if you don't know very well where you're putting your hands.
- This fix doesn't replace any component, it just will fix the button.
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FIX STEP BY STEP
1) Shutdown the phone
2) Remove the backcover (use one of the guides you can find on Youtube)
3) Boot on the phone
4) Pick a plastic piece, work on it to obtain a smaller piece to put under the power button of the backcover
5) For every piece try different position if it don't work and then reinsert the backcover to test the key
6) Profit!
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Questions/Answers
Q: Will it last as a fix?
A: I used the fix like a month ago, no problem until now.
Q: Can I use it on other phones?
A: Yes, I guess. If your phone uses the same system to power on the screen there shouldn't be any problem.
Q: What about using the glue to apply the fix?
A: Do it at your own risk. I prefer not to risk.
Q: Can I use another material (paper, iron...)
A: I don't know. I wouldn't use iron or other metals, cause it can conduct the voltage and cause issues to the phone. Also the paper doesn't work.
Qo it work also for the volume keys?
A:Yes, i think. Cause the volume buttons of the N4 works the same way as the power one.
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VIDEO
If you have any problem seeing the video just search me on G+ (Simone Balloccu) and you'll find it in the profile.
Link is offline..
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jackgz said:
Link is offline..
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Have you correctly removed all the space from the link? I checked it now, and the video is still online. Try this removing the "*"
htt*ps://ww*w.yo*utube.co*m/watch?v=xefVtRPByT4
EDIT: Just search me on G+ (Simone Balloccu) and you will find the video in my profile!
So ingenios. Thank you!
I had this issue too, my power button started to fail in december, 2013... and I did something like this, but I used a small piece of paper (post-it, actually :laugh and worked like a charm until 2-3 weeks ago. I'll probably open my N4 again to replace my workaround, it's starting to fail again.
Plus: to save some pressings on power button, I've installed a Xposed Module (GravityBox) that allows me to use volume buttons to wake up the screen as well, each time I press one of the buttons
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I had this issue too, my power button started to fail in december, 2013... and I did something like this, but I used a small piece of paper (post-it, actually :laugh and worked like a charm until 2-3 weeks ago. I'll probably open my N4 again to replace my workaround, it's starting to fail again.
Plus: to save some pressings on power button, I've installed a Xposed Module (GravityBox) that allows me to use volume buttons to wake up the screen as well, each time I press one of the buttons
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Yeah paper could work but it's easier to "ruin" or "corrode", expecially if you think that the Nexus 4 often heat a bit too much. Moreover the paper piece can't be blocked like the plastic piece by the backcover and it could fall inside the phone and ruin something!
Also here's a photo of the original plastic piece I used. Then i've colored in red the plastic piece that I effectively have under the backcover, so you can better see the dimensions..
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Sometimes my power button does not work, so I have to press it a second time. The other strange thing is that when I press it to lock the screen (and turn it off), it locks the screen but also turn the screen on showing the lock screen. So will this fix solve my problem? It's really annoying... this nexus is really cheap D:
If you encounter a lock-relock issue maybe u have a different problem, the key press like two times. Yes, i think it could resolve it
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ALESSIO94x said:
Sometimes my power button does not work, so I have to press it a second time. The other strange thing is that when I press it to lock the screen (and turn it off), it locks the screen but also turn the screen on showing the lock screen. So will this fix solve my problem? It's really annoying... this nexus is really cheap D:
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Same thing happening at my end since android 4.3 showed up... I've been forced to use s2w/s2s and features like double tap to wake...
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snak3ater said:
Same thing happening at my end since android 4.3 showed up... I've been forced to use s2w/s2s and features like double tap to wake...
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I was using that too, but drains so much battery and sometimes the screen gets unresponsive.
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I was using that too, but drains so much battery and sometimes the screen gets unresponsive.
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Yeah it's really annoying and it happens on a lot of ROMS and kernels. When I take the phone to unlock it, the touchscreen does not work and I have to restart it holding down the power button (not too easy because mine, as I said, does not work well) D:
P.S: right now I'm using a Note 2... great replacement xD
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snak3ater said:
Same thing happening at my end since android 4.3 showed up... I've been forced to use s2w/s2s and features like double tap to wake...
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If u can try this fix and you know where you're putting your hands i recommend you trying it. For a long time i've been using also s2w and s2s or double tap to wake. During the last period I also "cheated" on the TouchControl settings so that I can use a "Touch to wake" that for me was really useful but the matter with this functions is that alot of times i have switched on the phone just by keeping it in my hand and this was very annoying.
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ALESSIO94x said:
Yeah it's really annoying and it happens on a lot of ROMS and kernels. When I take the phone to unlock it, the touchscreen does not work and I have to restart it holding down the power button (not too easy because mine, as I said, does not work well) D:
P.S: right now I'm using a Note 2... great replacement xD
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Yeah I know that feel, currently i'm waiting for a OnePlus One, my girlfriend has one and she have the exact same problem, because of the Double-tap-to-wake feature..
Great trick.
I have fixed my mushy power and volume buttons using small pieces of gaffer tape, cut with an scalpel, and pasted on the internal button.
Seems more easier to work the correct size, and thanks to the gaffer, it sticks in place, but can still be removed without leaving glue.
The response is better than when my N4 was new.
Thanks for the tip !
uccollab said:
Yeah I know that feel, currently i'm waiting for a OnePlus One, my girlfriend has one and she have the exact same problem, because of the Double-tap-to-wake feature..
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When the screen gets unresponsive you can easily just tap the upper left corner at it'll respond.
wlk0 said:
Great trick.
I have fixed my mushy power and volume buttons using small pieces of gaffer tape, cut with an scalpel, and pasted on the internal button.
Seems more easier to work the correct size, and thanks to the gaffer, it sticks in place, but can still be removed without leaving glue.
The response is better than when my N4 was new.
Thanks for the tip !
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Excellent workaround, congrats :3
CallMeAldy said:
When the screen gets unresponsive you can easily just tap the upper left corner at it'll respond.
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We tried, but seems like the One of my girlfriend have more serious issues...we're going to ask for a replace
thanks for the tip
Thanks for this share.
I'm also having this problem, I'll have to gather up my courage before I open my precious