I dont know why some people wants to re-lock their bootloader when DRM is long gone since you unlock it the very first time. No DRM = warranty is void. Or is there something else to it?
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I dont know why some people wants to re-lock their bootloader when DRM is long gone since you unlock it the very first time. No DRM = warranty is void. Or is there something else to it?
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If you want to get official updates I guess. Updates won't install on a unlocked BL.
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If you want to get official updates I guess. Updates won't install on a unlocked BL.
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I see. Thanks. But I thought the main reason people unlocking bootloader is because they want to move away from stock rom, no? And since custom rom is way better than stock anyway, so, I dont see why anyone would need to update via official release :/
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I see. Thanks. But I thought the main reason people unlocking bootloader is because they want to move away from stock rom, no? And since custom rom is way better than stock anyway, so, I dont see why anyone would need to update via official release :/
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Stock based custom roms can be installed on locked bootloader. People unlock their bootloaders to flash roms which use a kernel other than stock kernel like PA, CM10 etc. Also, just in case something happens to your phone, it is wiser to relock the bootloader and flash a stock rom and then send it for repairs.
Also, it depends on your country too. In my country although my DRM keys were lost, I relocked my bootloader and gave it for repairs. They repaired it within the warranty.
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I see. Thanks. But I thought the main reason people unlocking bootloader is because they want to move away from stock rom, no? And since custom rom is way better than stock anyway, so, I dont see why anyone would need to update via official release :/
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I don't think that a custom rom will be better than stock on this phone.
my opinion.
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gm007 said:
I don't think that a custom rom will be better than stock on this phone.
my opinion.
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And is it worth it to lose bravia ect ect?
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demon2112 said:
And is it worth it to lose bravia ect ect?
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tbh, i feel that BE2 is horrible when browsing photos gallery. The color is just way too strong. But on the other hand, BE2 when watching a video is really nice and this is the only reason why I havnt unlock my bootloader just yet.
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tbh, i feel that BE2 is horrible when browsing photos gallery. The color is just way too strong. But on the other hand, BE2 when watching a video is really nice and this is the only reason why I havnt unlock my bootloader just yet.
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Losing be2 is one reason to stay stock in my opinion
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gm007 said:
I don't think that a custom rom will be better than stock on this phone.
my opinion.
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Likewise. There are a couple of things (and literally a couple) that I miss from CM but the Xperia software is really very close to AOSP. I'm rooted and I've flashed the black soft button bar but that's all I'm going to do until Sony release 4.2. Once that's out, then I'll decide whether I want a custom ROM or not.
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I bought a "rooted"phone, but I never used android before. I'm guessing the build number? Mine is FRF91. What are some benefits of rooting?
FRF91 is just the version of Android.
Best way is to see if there is an app installed called Super User. Other than that, try downloading an app that required root. Just search for riot on the market.
Search if you want to know what root is for. If you're new, I suggest not rooting your phone.
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OK thanks, I don't have Super User and noticed when using N1Torch it wont let me go super bright since it can't find root. So I guess not. lol. Don't worry, I'm fine for now without rooting, but I come from WinMo having ORD, so I'll need to know how to get custom roms soon. lol
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I bought a "rooted"phone, but I never used android before. I'm guessing the build number? Mine is FRF91. What are some benefits of rooting?
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OK thanks, I don't have Super User and noticed when using N1Torch it wont let me go super bright since it can't find root. So I guess not. lol. Don't worry, I'm fine for now without rooting, but I come from WinMo having ORD, so I'll need to know how to get custom roms soon. lol
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Perhaps "rooted" in this case meant bootloader-unlocked then? Does your N1 show a padlock icon on the bottom of the first X screen when you boot up? If so, the hard part (and your software warranty) is already done
I know its sim unlocked, ill check for the lock now
EDIT: no padlock, good or bad?
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jaszek said:
I know its sim unlocked, ill check for the lock now
EDIT: no padlock, good or bad?
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All Nexus ones are sim unlocked.
As for no padlock, means you bootloader is locked, which is good. meaning you're completely stock.
There are methods of loading custom roms without unlocking bootloader.
Unlock bootloader (you see padlock) means your Nexus One's software warranty is void.
I don't worry about voiding warranty, that's the first thing I do with most of my electronics lol
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jaszek said:
I don't worry about voiding warranty, that's the first thing I do with most of my electronics lol
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In that case, unlocking the bootloader is by far the easiest way to hack this phone
Once you've got the android SDK installed on your computer, all it takes is the command "fastboot oem unlock" to get your phone's bootloader unlocked. How much easier could it get?
Ok great. I guess ill play around with the phone stock for about a week
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You don't need to unlock the bootloader to root or flash custom roms anymore though so I would suggest using the alternative methods found in the development section and leave your warranty intact. Although most people haven't had a problem replacing their phones with unlocked bootloader there's just no point in risking it anymore because there's no need to do it that way imo.
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I bought a Xperia SP today, awesome phone, love it. now i need to root it. i heard it needs to unlock bootloader first to room and if i did that im going to loose bravia engine and track id. so i need to find a trouble free way to root it.
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I bought a Xperia SP today, awesome phone, love it. now i need to root it. i heard it needs to unlock bootloader first to room and if i did that im going to loose bravia engine and track id. so i need to find a trouble free way to root it.
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Does this will do?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329208
Yes that will root your phone without losing be2 or DRM keys.
You don't need to unlock your bootloader
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zolaisugly said:
Yes that will root your phone without losing be2 or DRM keys.
You don't need to unlock your bootloader
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Thanks, i will try :good:
one other question. if i root wont i be able to install official updates again?
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one other question. if i root wont i be able to install official updates again?
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u will het official updates no prob. i believe only installing a custom kernel would stop u getting official updates. sumone please correct me if i'm wrong.
dhiman33 said:
u will het official updates no prob. i believe only installing a custom kernel would stop u getting official updates. sumone please correct me if i'm wrong.
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This is my understanding too. Bear in mind that as soon as official updates are released a developer here will make it available on xda. This means you often get updates before you would normally (because they are rolled out at different times depending on carrier and region).
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Thanks for the help guys, much appreciated
One more question. how do i install CWM? do i have to unlock bootloader to do that?
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One more question. how do i install CWM? do i have to unlock bootloader to do that?
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no need to unlock the bootloader in order to install CWM. follow this link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2352920
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no need to unlock the bootloader in order to install CWM. follow this link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2352920
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Thanks :good:
also i saw lots of mods need deodexed rom, can i deodex my stock rom or do i have to flash another?
Once you install CWM, you can deodex your stock firmware without any problem :good:
No need to flash another ROM to do that.
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Once you install CWM, you can deodex your stock firmware without any problem :good:
No need to flash another ROM to do that.
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Ive installed cwm, but i couldnt find the option to deodex the rom
never mind, found it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336453
i saw that deodexing will slow the rom. is that true?
STALKER_88 said:
i saw that deodexing will slow the rom. is that true?
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no. it doesn't affect the phone's performance at all.
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no. it doesn't affect the phone's performance at all.
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In this link (6th comment). it says
alivanov79 said:
Odexed roms work faster than deodexed. If you don't plan to modify your rom don't deodex it. Though there are many mods for odexed roms too.
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The SP is pretty powerful I think it won't make day to day difference.
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I'm on 257 firmware.
How can I update to 284?
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I'm on 257 firmware.
How can I update to 284?
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The update is only for c5302 Sp models.... If you update your c5303 modern with .284 you will lose 4g connectivity but not much else.
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Iv just got rid of my old motorola atrix and got my hands on a new xperia Z and so far im loving it, although my atrix was bootloader unlocked and had a custom rom so i would like this 9on my sony xperia z! i am familiar with CWM and flashing roms but its been that long i cannot remember how to root, unlock and put custom roms onto a device
My xperia Z is an english version and locked too 02 network!
would anyone be able to send me a few links to guides in the order i need too do things to be able too start flashing custom roms/mods to my device?
thanks!
Pixelguy said:
Iv just got rid of my old motorola atrix and got my hands on a new xperia Z and so far im loving it, although my atrix was bootloader unlocked and had a custom rom so i would like this 9on my sony xperia z! i am familiar with CWM and flashing roms but its been that long i cannot remember how to root, unlock and put custom roms onto a device
My xperia Z is an english version and locked too 02 network!
would anyone be able to send me a few links to guides in the order i need too do things to be able too start flashing custom roms/mods to my device?
thanks!
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Can you tell me the model u have 6602,6603,6606 and what 4.1,4.2 plus which firmware,rooting is so easy just find the doomlord method but you need to give a little more info plus read through the forums and search a little not saying u are but seems lazy to ask us to do all the work for you
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This will refresh your memory about everything you need to know.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275632
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Pixelguy said:
My xperia Z is an english version and locked too 02 network!
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You can SIM Unlock O2 Phones for free! Just go HERE, fill in your info, wait a day or two, input code, done.
gm007 said:
This will refresh your memory about everything you need to know.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275632
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+1.
My xperia Z is an english version and locked too 02 network!
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Usually a carrier locked xperia has a permanent locked bootloader. Don't be surprised if you can't unlock it.
Just a heads up before you do too much research.
thanks guys!
one last bit of help?
Iv rooted my device and installed CMW
BUT
it says my bootloader is not allowed to be unlocked...
can i install custom roms using the locked cmw or do i have to stay with stock roms?
Pixelguy said:
Iv rooted my device and installed CMW
BUT
it says my bootloader is not allowed to be unlocked...
can i install custom roms using the locked cmw or do i have to stay with stock roms?
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Stock roms only for locked bootloader in the titles it will tell you I it's for lb
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Jonathan2677 said:
Stock roms only for locked bootloader in the titles it will tell you I it's for lb
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okay thank you :good:
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okay thank you :good:
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I isn't really a issue if u can unlock it or not. Mine can be unlocked but I never did because u lose bravia engine 2 if u unlock the bootloader.
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dante501 said:
I isn't really a issue if u can unlock it or not. Mine can be unlocked but I never did because u lose bravia engine 2 if u unlock the bootloader.
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It is an issue if you want those highly customisable roms such as cm,pac etc. I rather lose be2 than not having the chance to flash those. But now there's a way to save your ta before unlocking bootloader so it's all good for those who want to unlock bootloader and still keep be2 for future use.
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joejoe23 said:
It is an issue if you want those highly customisable roms such as cm,pac etc. I rather lose be2 than not having the chance to flash those. But now there's a way to save your ta before unlocking bootloader so it's all good for those who want to unlock bootloader and still keep be2 for future use.
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I understand but CM is always broken and has bugs on every phone. I don't even know why the roms from CM are so loved. It is most of the time a bug fest. Lol
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dante501 said:
I understand but CM is always broken and has bugs on every phone. I don't even know why the roms from CM are so loved. It is most of the time a bug fest. Lol
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Yeah honestly I always prefer stock roms so not to loose all good functions for example on my HTC one all I run is vipor Rom which is sense based otherwise I'd loose zoe,ir blaster and every other thing that makes the one what it is
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Jonathan2677 said:
Yeah honestly I always prefer stock roms so not to loose all good functions for example on my HTC one all I run is vipor Rom which is sense based otherwise I'd loose zoe,ir blaster and every other thing that makes the one what it is
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Yeah viper rom was always great in htc phones. I know not it since htc sensation. CM always seemed broken. Always something isn't working what works on other roms. I always wondered why CM always seems to have issues with things.
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So it seems there is not simple VROOT or Kingo Android ROOT style rooting available for those who don't want to unlock the boot loader.
Anyone came across anything similar that works?
I'm aware of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588331 and the instruction in there, this is not quite the same as what I'm looking for.
Not yet.
I just want to ask this though. If unlocking doesn't break anything anymore why are you guys not willing to unlock.
On one side there are users who bash the manufacturers all year long just to get their devices unlocked, to no avail. Then some super awesome dev comes by with a Santa stick and pwns the bootloaders. (ex-AtrixHD user). And there are those who have unlockable bootloaders but don't want to unlock. I do not understand why really...This is my first unlockable phone. Unlocked my N7 2013 one month from purchase. Never have been happier.
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BreakShadow said:
Not yet.
I just want to ask this though. If unlocking doesn't break anything anymore why are you guys not willing to unlock.
On one side there are users who bash the manufacturers all year long just to get their devices unlocked, to no avail. Then some super awesome dev comes by with a Santa stick and pwns the bootloaders. (ex-AtrixHD user). And there are those who have unlockable bootloaders but don't want to unlock. I do not understand why really...This is my first unlockable phone. Unlocked my N7 2013 one month from purchase. Never have been happier.
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Simple pragmatism, the only thing I want is root access, no flushing any ROMs or anything of that nature
obender said:
Simple pragmatism, the only thing I want is root access, no flushing any ROMs or anything of that nature
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Okay. I'd like the same too just for App Ops/Greenify. I love stock. But there's no one click solution yet.
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BreakShadow said:
Okay. I'd like the same too just for App Ops/Greenify. I love stock. But there's no one click solution yet.
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By the way for those who want one click boot loader unlock here is one:
http://www.kingoapp.com/sony-bootloader-unlock.htm
didn't try it myself for the obvious reasons
obender said:
So it seems there is not simple VROOT or Kingo Android ROOT style rooting available for those who don't want to unlock the boot loader.
Anyone came across anything similar that works?
I'm aware of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588331 and the instruction in there, this is not quite the same as what I'm looking for.
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obender said:
Simple pragmatism, the only thing I want is root access, no flushing any ROMs or anything of that nature
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BreakShadow said:
Okay. I'd like the same too just for App Ops/Greenify. I love stock. But there's no one click solution yet.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572988
Otherwise just downgrade to .257, then update back to .290 OTA
Some other helpful links:
http://techbeasts.com/2013/12/18/how-to-unlock-bootloader-of-sony-xperia-devices-guide/
Otherwise you'll be waiting a while
TagEHeuer said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572988
Otherwise just downgrade to .257, then update back to .290 OTA
Some other helpful links:
http://techbeasts.com/2013/12/18/how-to-unlock-bootloader-of-sony-xperia-devices-guide/
Otherwise you'll be waiting a while
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OTA to 290 is useless. You only get partial root and that means you don't have much to do.
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OTA to 290 is useless. You only get partial root and that means you don't have much to do.
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Agreed. It's better to flash a pre-rooted stock-ish ROM from the dev forum.
xasbo said:
Agreed. It's better to flash a pre-rooted stock-ish ROM from the dev forum.
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Useless, I already tried iHackers (pre-rooted stock-ish) on locked bootloader and got partial root access because Sony's RIC is in the kernel now. So whatever you do, you will only get partial root unless (somehow) you disable it. And currently there's no way to do it with a locked bootloader.
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are we likely to ever see a 1 click root for 4.3?????
4.4 Kitkat will be out soon, make sense to whoever makes these 1click roots to just wait for 4.4Kitkat.
i stuck with 4.2 for now. locked BL and nothing on 4.3 to get excited about. rooted.4.2 is better. ill happily wait for 4.4
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Useless, I already tried iHackers (pre-rooted stock-ish) on locked bootloader and got partial root access because Sony's RIC is in the kernel now. So whatever you do, you will only get partial root unless (somehow) you disable it. And currently there's no way to do it with a locked bootloader.
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Have a look at this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49096314&postcount=16
Seems legit, but I have not tried it.
Hello,
I Have a rooted Sony Xperia T,
How can I overclock it?
I can't seem to find any thread about it..
Colin7 said:
Hello,
I Have a rooted Sony Xperia T,
How can I overclock it?
I can't seem to find any thread about it..
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You need a custom kernel. And to install one, you need an unlocked bootloader.. which will break your warranty on many cases, so be careful
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WhiteNeo said:
You need a custom kernel. And to install one, you need an unlocked bootloader.. which will break your warranty on many cases, so be careful
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Already unlocked my bootloader,
Sorry, I'm a rookie at android devices, where can I get a custom kernel
And what do i need to do after that?
EDIT: It seems we replied at the same time! haha.. nevermind what I said below then....
Also note that a lot of our Xperia T's bootloaders are NOT unlockable. There is a code you can dial on your phone to take you to a service menu where it will tell you if your bootloader is unlockable. If it says No, then your bootloader simply cannot be unlocked. Then you can join the many of us who patiently pray and wait for someone out there to crack or work around it
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EDIT: It seems we replied at the same time! haha.. nevermind what I said below then....
Also note that a lot of our Xperia T's bootloaders are NOT unlockable. There is a code you can dial on your phone to take you to a service menu where it will tell you if your bootloader is unlockable. If it says No, then your bootloader simply cannot be unlocked. Then you can join the many of us who patiently pray and wait for someone out there to crack or work around it
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Colin7 said:
Already unlocked my bootloader,
Sorry, I'm a rookie at android devices, where can I get a custom kernel
And what do i need to do after that?
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Look for a kernel in the XT Development section..
As far as I know, you need to flash it via Flashtool. But I still have locked bl, so you better ask someone with more experience
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