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Why bother re-locking bootloader?

I dont know why some people wants to re-lock their bootloader when DRM is long gone since you unlock it the very first time. No DRM = warranty is void. Or is there something else to it?

vosszaa said:
I dont know why some people wants to re-lock their bootloader when DRM is long gone since you unlock it the very first time. No DRM = warranty is void. Or is there something else to it?
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If you want to get official updates I guess. Updates won't install on a unlocked BL.

shadowboy23 said:
If you want to get official updates I guess. Updates won't install on a unlocked BL.
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I see. Thanks. But I thought the main reason people unlocking bootloader is because they want to move away from stock rom, no? And since custom rom is way better than stock anyway, so, I dont see why anyone would need to update via official release :/

vosszaa said:
I see. Thanks. But I thought the main reason people unlocking bootloader is because they want to move away from stock rom, no? And since custom rom is way better than stock anyway, so, I dont see why anyone would need to update via official release :/
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Stock based custom roms can be installed on locked bootloader. People unlock their bootloaders to flash roms which use a kernel other than stock kernel like PA, CM10 etc. Also, just in case something happens to your phone, it is wiser to relock the bootloader and flash a stock rom and then send it for repairs.
Also, it depends on your country too. In my country although my DRM keys were lost, I relocked my bootloader and gave it for repairs. They repaired it within the warranty.

vosszaa said:
I see. Thanks. But I thought the main reason people unlocking bootloader is because they want to move away from stock rom, no? And since custom rom is way better than stock anyway, so, I dont see why anyone would need to update via official release :/
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I don't think that a custom rom will be better than stock on this phone.
my opinion.
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gm007 said:
I don't think that a custom rom will be better than stock on this phone.
my opinion.
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And is it worth it to lose bravia ect ect?
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demon2112 said:
And is it worth it to lose bravia ect ect?
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tbh, i feel that BE2 is horrible when browsing photos gallery. The color is just way too strong. But on the other hand, BE2 when watching a video is really nice and this is the only reason why I havnt unlock my bootloader just yet.

vosszaa said:
tbh, i feel that BE2 is horrible when browsing photos gallery. The color is just way too strong. But on the other hand, BE2 when watching a video is really nice and this is the only reason why I havnt unlock my bootloader just yet.
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Losing be2 is one reason to stay stock in my opinion
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gm007 said:
I don't think that a custom rom will be better than stock on this phone.
my opinion.
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Likewise. There are a couple of things (and literally a couple) that I miss from CM but the Xperia software is really very close to AOSP. I'm rooted and I've flashed the black soft button bar but that's all I'm going to do until Sony release 4.2. Once that's out, then I'll decide whether I want a custom ROM or not.

SP noob, need some guidance

I bought a Xperia SP today, awesome phone, love it. now i need to root it. i heard it needs to unlock bootloader first to room and if i did that im going to loose bravia engine and track id. so i need to find a trouble free way to root it.

STALKER_88 said:
I bought a Xperia SP today, awesome phone, love it. now i need to root it. i heard it needs to unlock bootloader first to room and if i did that im going to loose bravia engine and track id. so i need to find a trouble free way to root it.
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Does this will do?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329208

Yes that will root your phone without losing be2 or DRM keys.
You don't need to unlock your bootloader
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zolaisugly said:
Yes that will root your phone without losing be2 or DRM keys.
You don't need to unlock your bootloader
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Thanks, i will try :good:

one other question. if i root wont i be able to install official updates again?

STALKER_88 said:
one other question. if i root wont i be able to install official updates again?
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u will het official updates no prob. i believe only installing a custom kernel would stop u getting official updates. sumone please correct me if i'm wrong.

dhiman33 said:
u will het official updates no prob. i believe only installing a custom kernel would stop u getting official updates. sumone please correct me if i'm wrong.
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This is my understanding too. Bear in mind that as soon as official updates are released a developer here will make it available on xda. This means you often get updates before you would normally (because they are rolled out at different times depending on carrier and region).
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Thanks for the help guys, much appreciated

One more question. how do i install CWM? do i have to unlock bootloader to do that?

STALKER_88 said:
One more question. how do i install CWM? do i have to unlock bootloader to do that?
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no need to unlock the bootloader in order to install CWM. follow this link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2352920

sarkissmae said:
no need to unlock the bootloader in order to install CWM. follow this link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2352920
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Thanks :good:
also i saw lots of mods need deodexed rom, can i deodex my stock rom or do i have to flash another?

Once you install CWM, you can deodex your stock firmware without any problem :good:
No need to flash another ROM to do that.

dakshinasd said:
Once you install CWM, you can deodex your stock firmware without any problem :good:
No need to flash another ROM to do that.
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Ive installed cwm, but i couldnt find the option to deodex the rom

never mind, found it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336453

i saw that deodexing will slow the rom. is that true?

STALKER_88 said:
i saw that deodexing will slow the rom. is that true?
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no. it doesn't affect the phone's performance at all.

sarkissmae said:
no. it doesn't affect the phone's performance at all.
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In this link (6th comment). it says
alivanov79 said:
Odexed roms work faster than deodexed. If you don't plan to modify your rom don't deodex it. Though there are many mods for odexed roms too.
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The SP is pretty powerful I think it won't make day to day difference.
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I'm on 257 firmware.
How can I update to 284?

dghostpt said:
I'm on 257 firmware.
How can I update to 284?
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The update is only for c5302 Sp models.... If you update your c5303 modern with .284 you will lose 4g connectivity but not much else.
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version 1.1.5 kingo

will it root .257!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't.
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Why?

In fact can both of you guys provide sources of your claims?

Use Bin4ry's one (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460) to root .534 and update via prerooted.zip, Kingo steals your IMEI.

oh no. really? i just found out about this. i've already rooted my z1 with kingo. what do i do now?

RyokoN said:
Use Bin4ry's one (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460) to root .534 and update via prerooted.zip, Kingo steals your IMEI.
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Really?! Source?
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DAddYE said:
Really?! Source?
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Here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47188994&postcount=79

RyokoN said:
Here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47188994&postcount=79
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Jeez, thanks!

RyokoN said:
Here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47188994&postcount=79
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Not entirely accurate.
The IMEI numbers were read. But at the moment we're unsure if they were read and stored somewhere like 'Chinese servers'
Over 80% of xperia users have used this kind of tool. Once you've used it then you might as well use it again.
If you have not used a tool like this, then its recommended that you wait.
wait for what??
- An exploit to root this device probably wont eventuate as most of us have already used a tool like this to root. So developers are not interested.
- For the company that develops the ROOT software to get back to us and assure us that there is no problem??...
You need to make the choice if you use it or not..

hamdogg said:
Not entirely accurate.
The IMEI numbers were read. But at the moment we're unsure if they were read and stored somewhere like 'Chinese servers'
Over 80% of xperia users have used this kind of tool. Once you've used it then you might as well use it again.
If you have not used a tool like this, then its recommended that you wait.
wait for what??
- An exploit to root this device probably wont eventuate as most of us have already used a tool like this to root. So developers are not interested.
- For the company that develops the ROOT software to get back to us and assure us that there is no problem??...
You need to make the choice if you use it or not..
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We have exploit to root 534(by Bin4ry's CLEAN rootkit), so we don't need Kingo anymore.
We don't want unknown person to touch IMEI, even they don't store data.

So this is all about, I heard Vroot and Kingo are suspicious apps. I don't like that. Why people using them anyway if they are not clean?

Help required in rooting At&t Note 3

please take a look at the image and guide how to root this phone , this is running stock kitkat 4.2.2 from at&t and is a very fresh build. I want to know if i can root this using Kingo root yes or no ?
will it trip knox counter ?
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Wow man. What's up with all these thread without any search. No offense.
No root for NC2 at the moment.
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Yeah go ahead. Try and let us know. Or is that so much work to do as well? LOL
from the tip of my fangers...!

Hey Mutant and Kalz get back where you belong...lol...see you there
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what is going on is this a joke ?
i asked a simple quesiton and i saw these replies ?
my question is my boot loader locked ?
okay from the first comment i can see there is no root for this version yet
but i can downgrade this version right and then root this device from jelly bean ?

If your on nc2 there is no root and no going back to jellybean. Bootloaders are locked. So you pretty much stuck on the official kitkat like the rest of us. Even though not for long. I read somewhere that an exploit was found that will permanently unlock the bootloader but it won't be available till August some time. So we need to be patient.
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salman1444 said:
i asked a simple quesiton and i saw these replies ?
my question is my boot loader locked ?
okay from the first comment i can see there is no root for this version yet
but i can downgrade this version right and then root this device from jelly bean ?
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There have been constant questions on the exact same thing you are asking. It only takes a little bit of searching to find this info
Yes it's locked
Correct, there is no root for 4.4.2 KK
No you cannot downgrade to JB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710972

kangi26 said:
There have been constant questions on the exact same thing you are asking. It only takes a little bit of searching to find this info
Yes it's locked
Correct, there is no root for 4.4.2 KK
No you cannot downgrade to JB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710972
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OP, please read this post. Search is your best friend. It's being worked on I assure you. Please read up and not create another thread, Salman. Thank you.

Is BL Unlock Code useless w/a locked BL

quick question....ive got a BL unlock code for the Z1s --- is it useless?

Yes
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southsideweezy said:
quick question....ive got a BL unlock code for the Z1s --- is it useless?
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Totally.

southsideweezy said:
quick question....ive got a BL unlock code for the Z1s --- is it useless?
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Yes, it totally wipes all data on the phone, e.g contacts, messages, call history, apps and data, and everything which belongs to internal storage.
You should get a backup before you unlock your BL.
You should just unlock it if you wanna root, and be aware of its pros and cons

SaeedFazlollahzadeh said:
Yes, it totally wipes all data on the phone, e.g contacts, messages, call history, apps and data, and everything which belongs to internal storage.
You should get a backup before you unlock your BL.
You should just unlock it if you wanna root, and be aware of its pros and cons
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DONT UNLOCK FOR ROOT,you are giving bad info bud,no need to unlock for root

SaeedFazlollahzadeh said:
Yes, it totally wipes all data on the phone, e.g contacts, messages, call history, apps and data, and everything which belongs to internal storage.
You should get a backup before you unlock your BL.
You should just unlock it if you wanna root, and be aware of its pros and cons
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joecool666 said:
DONT UNLOCK FOR ROOT,you are giving bad info bud,no need to unlock for root
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Both of you should also read the OP
he has a Z1S
root is impossible, unlocked bootloader is impossible.
Please close the thread..

gregbradley said:
Both of you should also read the OP
he has a Z1S
root is impossible, unlocked bootloader is impossible.
Please close the thread..
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i did read thats why i said what i said,

joecool666 said:
i did read thats why i said what i said,
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He is right
After I rooted my Z1, I figured out that there's no need to unlock BL for root
Read the posts that don't need to unlock BL
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Yes it is well known that there is no need to unlock in order to root
However, he has a Z1S. There is no way to root that phone at all, so the point is moot.
He cannot unlock the boot AND he cannot root.

Really? Z1S is unroorable? Or it's like Z1 kitkat, hard to root?
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Its impossible.
Z1 KK is rootable because you can downgrade.
There are no rootable firmwares for the Z1S as it was introduced on 4.3 which has no root exploit.

gregbradley said:
Its impossible.
Z1 KK is rootable because you can downgrade.
There are no rootable firmwares for the Z1S as it was introduced on 4.3 which has no root exploit.
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what a bu**er for thos who dont know about this,
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SaeedFazlollahzadeh said:
He is right
After I rooted my Z1, I figured out that there's no need to unlock BL for root
Read the posts that don't need to unlock BL
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so why ask,

I even did not downgrade my phone
I rooted it in KK (757) stock global rom
Just by installing cwm, and then installing supersu
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you can only do that after unlocking the bootloader. But doing it that means you do not get to back up your TA.
Unlocking the bootloader is an easy way to get root, but not always the best way

gregbradley said:
you can only do that after unlocking the bootloader. But doing it that means you do not get to back up your TA.
Unlocking the bootloader is an easy way to get root, but not always the best way
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What do you mean?
Now I'm regretting that why I rooted my phone by unlocking BL
At all I want Nokia 1100
The best phone forever
LOOOOOOL
Oh, thanks for your helping me to get the 4k and Timeshift
Remember me?
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SaeedFazlollahzadeh said:
What do you mean?
Now I'm regretting that why I rooted my phone by unlocking BL
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Seems like the message is sinking in.
The most direct method is not always the best.

gregbradley said:
Seems like the message is sinking in.
The most direct method is not always the best.
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Yes, I exactly accept it, and I experienced it
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z1s root
gregbradley said:
Both of you should also read the OP
he has a Z1S
root is impossible, unlocked bootloader is impossible.
Please close the thread..
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i see root is possible for z1s, notthing is impossible just like the bootloader

Nothing is not impossible for hackers and programmers
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joecool666 said:
i see root is possible for z1s, notthing is impossible just like the bootloader
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AT the time I wrote that it was impossible, but yes root has been achieved.
However, unlocking the boot on a Z1S is still impossible