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[Q] Internal memory: read only?

Hi All
I have a problem on my T: when I access the internal memory with root explorer (for example), I can't (again for example) delete pictures from the DCIM folder. If I use my PC's file explorer, I can delete them, but they reappear a few minutes later in the phone...just like if the operation has not been done...
Another example: I can't take take screenshots, impossible to record the picture.
Is this a normal behavior?
Thanks in advance

dd66 said:
Hi All
I have a problem on my T: when I access the internal memory with root explorer (for example), I can't (again for example) delete pictures from the DCIM folder. If I use my PC's file explorer, I can delete them, but they reappear a few minutes later in the phone...just like if the operation has not been done...
Another example: I can't take take screenshots, impossible to record the picture.
Is this a normal behavior?
Thanks in advance
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Back it up and format the sd card. Its happened to me a couple of times (when changing from stock to CM roms) and this always fixes it.

the internal one? (I talk about it, not the ext-SD (which, BTW, is veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyy slow and disconnect a lot when PC connected...))

dd66 said:
the internal one? (I talk about it, not the ext-SD (which, BTW, is veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyy slow and disconnect a lot when PC connected...))
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yes, back it up and format it.

Thanks
FAT32 I guess?
Any clue for my External card?

dd66 said:
Thanks
FAT32 I guess?
Any clue for my External card?
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do the same.

Moving CoPilot GPS maps to sdcard1

Update:
I made a tutorial how to get CoPilot save the maps on the external sd card.
For this method you don't need any root access so it should work for almost everyone.
Make sure you check check whether your sdcard path is /storage/sdcard0 or /mnt/sdcard

For me it worked fine without rooting the phone.
I have a samsung ace plus S7500
I made a copy of
/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/
to
/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/
then (with KIES), i changed the
user.cfg situated in /mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/
then i erased the
/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/EU/
The adapted user.cfg would be changed like this
[Directories]
"AddonDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/EU/addon/"
"AudioDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/audio/"
"GlobalAddonDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/addon"
"GPSDemoDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/gpstracks/demo"
"LRGlobalSaveDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/save"
"LRGPSSaveDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/gpstracks"
"LRInfoDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/info"
"LRSaveDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/EU/save/"
"RegionDir"="EU"
"RootDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/"
"SkinDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/skin/"
"SpeechDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/speech"
"ThemesDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/themes/"
"UIConfigDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/uiconfig/"
"UpdateDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/save/update"
[Directories]
"AddonDir"="/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/EU/addon/"
"AudioDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/audio/"
"GlobalAddonDir"="/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/addon"
"GPSDemoDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/gpstracks/demo"
"LRGlobalSaveDir"="/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/save"
"LRGPSSaveDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/gpstracks"
"LRInfoDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/info"
"LRSaveDir"="/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/EU/save/"
"RegionDir"="EU"
"RootDir"="/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/"
"SkinDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/skin/"
"SpeechDir"="/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/speech"
"ThemesDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/themes/"
"UIConfigDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/uiconfig/"
"UpdateDir"="/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/save/update"
Then it finally works
dagoban said:
Hi guys,
so this topic came up quite a few times for other phones, however I cannot get it working on my Razr I.
And I am talking about the Live version (that is the newest version which comes with all countries in 1app), not the Premium or Lite one.
So I want to move the maps folder to the external sdcard....
Basically what I did is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42581577&postcount=2
But of course instead of /storage/extSdCard/ I used /storage/sdcard1/com.alk.copilot.mapviewer/
But after starting CoPilot Live it still overwrites the user.cfg file back to its normal settings (sdcard0)
Does anyone have a solution for that?
I also found out that there is a file called DeviceInfo.xml in the save folder that also has the sdcard0 included...
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dagoban said:
Update:
I made a tutorial how to get CoPilot save the maps on the external sd card.
For this method you don't need any root access so it should work for almost everyone.
Make sure you check check whether your sdcard path is /storage/sdcard0 or /mnt/sdcard
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Outstanding! worked perfectly, thank you!

installing maps to SD card
dagoban said:
Update:
I made a tutorial how to get CoPilot save the maps on the external sd card.
For this method you don't need any root access so it should work for almost everyone.
Make sure you check check whether your sdcard path is /storage/sdcard0 or /mnt/sdcard
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Dear Michael, your tutorial is fantastic, it is logical, clear and easy to follow, unfortunately the text of my “user.cfg” file is different, the text contained often the word “emulated” but there is nowhere the word “mapviewer “ I wonder if you could give me a push in the right direction. The device I am running is Samsung Galaxy S5 (SM-G900i) and the CoPilot version is 9.5.0.440 Europa and USA
Regards Erik

Hi Erik,
just look for the RootDir and SpeechDir tag in the config and change that from your internal card to your external card.
If you still need help, start at step 1 again and then copy the config file to your PC and upload its content to pastebin.com so I can have a look at it.

erikdeoude said:
Dear Michael, your tutorial is fantastic, it is logical, clear and easy to follow, unfortunately the text of my “user.cfg” file is different, the text contained often the word “emulated” but there is nowhere the word “mapviewer “ I wonder if you could give me a push in the right direction. The device I am running is Samsung Galaxy S5 (SM-G900i) and the CoPilot version is 9.5.0.440 Europa and USA
Regards Erik
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If you are on KitKat it could be a problem with writing your maps to external SDcard.

Moving CoPilot Map to SD card
dagoban said:
Hi Erik,
just look for the RootDir and SpeechDir tag in the config and change that from your internal card to your external card.
If you still need help, start at step 1 again and then copy the config file to your PC and upload its content to pastebin.com so I can have a look at it.
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Thanks for your help,it is obviously not possible to move the copilot maps, so I will search for another brand of GPS

dagoban said:
Update:
I made a tutorial how to get CoPilot save the maps on the external sd card.
For this method you don't need any root access so it should work for almost everyone.
Make sure you check check whether your sdcard path is /storage/sdcard0 or /mnt/sdcard
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Thanks for the guide!
Do I need to repeat step 14 (copy folder) when / if the app gets updated?

dagoban said:
Update:
I made a tutorial how to get CoPilot save the maps on the external sd card.
For this method you don't need any root access so it should work for almost everyone.
Make sure you check check whether your sdcard path is /storage/sdcard0 or /mnt/sdcard
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Hi Dagoban,
I followed your tutorial and it worked great. At least up to yesterday, where I updated CoPilot to version 9.6.0.634. Now the phone directory no longer says /storage/sdcard0 but /storage/emulated/0/.
Changing the Root and Speech directory (in my case to extSdCard) doesn't allow downloading of Maps on my SD card anymore.
Any thoughts or tips?
Thanks
Rob
Update: I have a Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505), running on Android 4.4.2 (Kitkat)

transfering large maps to extsd card
rdijkstra said:
Hi Dagoban,
I followed your tutorial and it worked great. At least up to yesterday, where I updated CoPilot to version 9.6.0.634. Now the phone directory no longer says /storage/sdcard0 but /storage/emulated/0/.
Changing the Root and Speech directory (in my case to extSdCard) doesn't allow downloading of Maps on my SD card anymore.
Any thoughts or tips?
Thanks
Rob
Update: I have a Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505), running on Android 4.4.2 (Kitkat)
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Hi Rob,
I had a similar problem with Galaxy S5 (SM-G900i), and rooting the phone did not help, after receiving just silly answers from ‘CoPilot Technical Support’ I purchased the application from ‘Sygic’ it cost a few Dollars more but for this you get annual several map updates and the service is excellent. The maps are slightly larger in size but the whole application can be transferred to external SD card (by cut and paste) for me it was an easy solution.
Cheers Erik

Seems to work, basically
dagoban said:
Update:
I made a tutorial how to get CoPilot save the maps on the external sd card.
For this method you don't need any root access so it should work for almost everyone.
Make sure you check check whether your sdcard path is /storage/sdcard0 or /mnt/sdcard
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I tried this on my Atrix HD with Cyanogen 10.2, and it seems to work. The Atrix uses an "emulated" sdcard0, so it had some issues, but I edited the user file & continued the install. When I ran copilot initially, it seemed to have some problems. I kept getting "Do you really want to quit" messages when I would try and move through menu options. I turned on GPS (which I had not done prior) and after a minute or so, I was able to browse the map, so maybe that was the issue. Now, when I fire up Copilot, it seems to behave. I tried an "goto" address in another state, and the route was correct, so I'm saying thanks very much for the process you developed. I really wish that ALK would just add this to their software.

KitKat “EACCES permission denied”
rdijkstra said:
Hi Dagoban,
I followed your tutorial and it worked great. At least up to yesterday, where I updated CoPilot to version 9.6.0.634. Now the phone directory no longer says /storage/sdcard0 but /storage/emulated/0/.
Changing the Root and Speech directory (in my case to extSdCard) doesn't allow downloading of Maps on my SD card anymore.
Any thoughts or tips?
Thanks
Rob
Update: I have a Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505), running on Android 4.4.2 (Kitkat)
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It seems that android 4.4.2 has limited access permission of the external SD card. Have a look at howto-avoid-the-eacces-permission-denied-on-sdcard-with-kitkat-4-4-2-version on stackoverflow (I can't post the link!).
I tried to change the folder permission via chmod but no lock. What is the workaround?

sesemin said:
It seems that android 4.4.2 has limited access permission of the external SD card. Have a look at howto-avoid-the-eacces-permission-denied-on-sdcard-with-kitkat-4-4-2-version on stackoverflow (I can't post the link!).
I tried to change the folder permission via chmod but no lock. What is the workaround?
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Michael previously published an instruction on how to move the maps to SD card, but his instruction does not work with the recent KitKat version of Android. People look for methods to root the device to obtain access to SD-cards. Still it is perfectly possible even with unrooted devices. Edit folder path for Rootdir and Speechdir so that it would point to a folder "Android/data/" at your SD card. For example, for Samsung Galaxy 5, it would be "storage/extSdCard/Android/data/...". Save the file user.cfg. If you have a different brand, your external SD card might be called differently, this is why copilot guys do not want to mess with external cards (shame on them, btw).
It worked for me with Kitkat. Have found somewhere that every application under Kitkat gets its own folder in Android/data with full writing rights. But the folder should be named strictly after the application name. If you copy the folder to any other place and adjust user.cfg accordingly, it might not work, since the application tries to write something into folders, too.

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Works on Low Storage KitKat
Shato said:
Michael previously published an instruction on how to move the maps to SD card, but his instruction does not work with the recent KitKat version of Android. People look for methods to root the device to obtain access to SD-cards. Still it is perfectly possible even with unrooted devices. Edit folder path for Rootdir and Speechdir so that it would point to a folder "Android/data/" at your SD card. For example, for Samsung Galaxy 5, it would be "storage/extSdCard/Android/data/...". Save the file user.cfg. If you have a different brand, your external SD card might be called differently, this is why copilot guys do not want to mess with external cards (shame on them, btw).
It worked for me with Kitkat. Have found somewhere that every application under Kitkat gets its own folder in Android/data with full writing rights. But the folder should be named strictly after the application name. If you copy the folder to any other place and adjust user.cfg accordingly, it might not work, since the application tries to write something into folders, too.
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That worked great, Shato. Thanks. It even worked on my phone which doesn't have enough free internal memory for the maps. I downloaded the maps on my tablet and copied the folder to the SD. Then I put the SD in the phone and applied the config change.

An update the developer should do - detect extsd during app install/update
Seems like a lot of trouble. With Sygic's app, all you have to do is move the folder, launch the app, and clean up whatever old filder remains on internal sd.
[*ttp://help.sygic.com/hc/en-us[/*
Haven't tried a Sygic app upgrade since I moved it, but added maps all go to extsd.. I have noticed one small issue. If I shut my device off, it rediscovers the extsd and remounts it, and it can take a whie to finish indexing it (2 minutes with my 32GB U-1 cl 10 card) and until it does, apps using fies from the extsd seem to hang. on launch I say seem to. If allowed to wait, they eventually open unless they err after loading some of their files, but aren't able to access all of them..
The work around is not to shut completely down, but sleep or suspend after putting the device in Airplane mode to minimise drain.
Yeah, I know this doesn.t solve the CoPilot\Kitkat issue, but I had to stop using CoPilot because I ran out of space on internal SD. I'm not going to deal with an app that requires massaging after every revision, and this one has enough bugs that it needs revisions, not just map updates. When I see an announcement that either Google lifts the extSD restrictions (in L I hope), or Copilot fixes its code, I'll use Sygics free version with all its limitations- disable its app from updating, and manually update the few state maps I use periodically.
I was learning to live with CoPilots quirks untilI I ran out of space. Syngic isn't as nice to use, and has its own quirks, but at least it doesn't have to fill my internal SD with maps of states to which I'll never go., and it's too pricy for me to buy the full version, so I lose turn by turn.
BTW, both apps suffer from many inaccuracies suburban and low pop density maps, but Syngic's are slightly better, in that adddresses are more often correctly located on the right side of roadways and nearer to the correct ends of irregularlyoshaped "blocks"..

I am running an LG Optimus L70 (D321) with kitKat 4.4.2
After just installing copilot, and stopping at the point it wants to install the maps, I see that copilot is scattered all over the place
It has files in /data/app-lib/
/data/data
/data/media/0/
/data/user/0/
/mnt/sdcard/
/mnt/shell/emulated/0/
/pkg/
/storage/emulated/0/
Several have the user.cfg file in them.
Which one do I edit? Which one do I move to my external SD card.
On my phone the external is /storage/external_SD/Android/
This was way easy in ICS

OK, got things moved around so my maps go to my EXTERNAL SD card.
On my LG Optimus L70 (D321 Cricket) running kitkat 4.4.2 the external sd card is located:
/storage/external_SD/Android/data/
you must point to the "ANDROID/DATA" or it will not work.
I did find one short issue, Copilot still looks at the INTERNAL SD CARD for the amount of available storage. It may balk if you try to download the entire USA, 1.77 GB or all of North America 1.87 GB. I had to DL it in sections and all worked fine.

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I cannot write to microSD card (128Gb)!!

Any solution? Many thanks for your kind help!

First things first. Can you write to the SD card using the built-in File Commander app?

plvigo said:
Any solution? Many thanks for your kind help!
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This really needs a fuller description of the problem: what exactly are you trying to do, what do you expect to happen, and what happens instead?

ghtop said:
This really needs a fuller description of the problem: what exactly are you trying to do, what do you expect to happen, and what happens instead?
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Also is the sdcard genuine..?
Millions of fakes around..
Sent from my D5803 using XDA Free mobile app

I had same problem,first question should be where did you buy it and for how much? For example sellers from eBay are selling 128gb SD card for 15£ only but it's just rebranded 32 or 64gb cards!
Sent from my D6603 using XDA Free mobile app

Hi!
This is the Sd 128Gb I bought:
http://www.amazon.it/SanDisk-Androi...784&sr=8-1&keywords=micro+sd+128+gb+classe+10
I think that is a good one!
I saw that this kind of problem starts with Kit Kat, isn't correct?
It's very strange that I cannot copy from the device any file in the Sd card and viceversa!
Many thanks for your kind help!

It's probably not strange and yes, things changed with KitKat. But since you're still refusing to tell us what exactly you're trying to do and how, we cannot help you.

The device can read the SD card, but cannot write in it any kind of file; it's impossible to move or to copy, paste or delete any kind of file, using all file manager you can find in the google play, also trying with resco explorer for rooter user (my Z3 compact isn't rooted). I hope that this explanation can be clear enough!
It's very strange that you can use the Sd card like the older Jelly Beam system, that allow to move o copy any file from one directory to another or from the internal memory to the SD card!
Many thanks again for your kind cooperation!

Of course it's perfectly possible to copy to/from sd card on KitKat, otherwise what would be the point of even having them in KitKat devices.
But usage is more restricted than in earlier Android versions. Tell us *exactly* what you're trying to do, and we can point you in the right direction.

ghtop said:
Of course it's perfectly possible to copy to/from sd card on KitKat, otherwise what would be the point of even having them in KitKat devices.
But usage is more restricted than in earlier Android versions. Tell us *exactly* what you're trying to do, and we can point you in the right direction.
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I think that my english is not good enough to explain what I would like to do!
I will try again: with my new Z3 compact and the SD Sandisk 128Gb I cannot copy or move a file from the internal storage of the device to the SD card and viceversa. Also, I can write the SD card, for example, to create or to rename or to delete a file or a directory in the SD card.
Is it clear?
I hope so and, once again, many thanks for your kind help!!

Have you tried the File Commander app provided by Sony? Otherwise apps can only write to their own folders.

ghtop said:
Have you tried the File Commander app provided by Sony? Otherwise apps can only write to their own folders.
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Yes, I tried!
With the File Commander provided by Sony you can manage the SD, but you cannot use the directory which you created (that seems to be only for reading and not for writing) for example, for downloading files from app of the device (e.g. Ttorrent).
Any solution?

plvigo said:
Yes, I tried!
With the File Commander provided by Sony you can manage the SD, but you cannot use the directory which you created (that seems to be only for reading and not for writing) for example, for downloading files from app of the device (e.g. Ttorrent).
Any solution?
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You *can* use it for writing ... with File Commander ... but as I stated, otherwise apps can only write to their own folders, e.g. SD card > Android > data > com.yourapp.something
Apps that support saving to SD card will typically have the option in their app settings, and they'll use their own app folder for that. Like Google Music or all of Sony's own apps.
You can also copy stuff to/from top level folders via USB or Wireless Media Transfer.

ghtop said:
You *can* use it for writing ... with File Commander ... but as I stated, otherwise apps can only write to their own folders, e.g. SD card > Android > data > com.yourapp.something
Apps that support saving to SD card will typically have the option in their app settings, and they'll use their own app folder for that. Like Google Music or all of Sony's own apps.
You can also copy stuff to/from top level folders via USB or Wireless Media Transfer.
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Ok!! Many many thanks for your explanation!! Best regards!!

I can't delete photos from my SD since I started using QuickPic rather than the ultra buggy default 'Album' app thing.

Because the same policy applies to all user apps, they only have write access to their own folder for security reasons.

Device creating weird files on SD Card

Hello!
For a few days now I've noticed that my device has been creating some weird files on my SD card. I have tried formatting the SD a few times but it still happens. If I do not delete these files more and more keep being created until there are hundreds of them in my SD. They seem to not take up any space at all, but it bothers me having to browse for files in the card. I have attached a screenshot from the root of my SD card with the suspicious files highlighted. If they are completely normal for an android device, I would like to know if there is a way to stop them, hide them or maybe have them appear inside a separate folder so I can keep my card organized.
Also, it may or may not be related, but whenever I'm listening to music (whether it'd be Play Music or another app) sometimes the phone stops playing it, as if I closed the app. I had Clean Master installed and it happened frequently until I figured out it was the source of the problem and uninstalled. It worked fine for a while but it started again. I believe it could be related, since I keep all of my music on the SD card.
Thank you in advance for any assistance provided!

Do you see these files only when phone is plugged to PC via USB or can you see them with ES-Explorer or similar Filemanger on the phone also?
I have a few of these files but they are only present when I check the SDcard on a Windows- PC, in ES or Rootexplorer they aren´t visible.So my opinion is that these files are created temporary for connecting.

Wolfcity said:
Do you see these files only when phone is plugged to PC via USB or can you see them with ES-Explorer or similar Filemanger on the phone also?
I have a few of these files but they are only present when I check the SDcard on a Windows- PC, in ES or Rootexplorer they aren´t visible.So my opinion is that these files are created temporary for connecting.
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The files also appear with file managing apps on the device as well. As you can see, the files have "reproduced" since I started this thread.

Inquisitor956 said:
The files also appear with file managing apps on the device as well. As you can see, the files have "reproduced" since I started this thread.
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I also have the same. Just deleted 400 0byte files on my motog 2ndgen sd card (kitkat 4.4.4). I see them with es and when connected to PC.

Oreo & SD Cards

There appears to be a problem moving files about on the SD Card when running under Oreo. It seems you can write to the card from say the camera or from the phone storage but moving or copying a file from the SD Card to another location on the SD Card doesn't work.
My mate with a different branded phone has the same issue so its not the Nokia 8, it is Oreo, anyone know of a fix?

Same issue here. Nokia TA-1004 updated to Oreo. SD Card has issues. Any files you copy to the SD card will have the file written physically, but with a read error on the destination file. The file will appear as zero bytes. But a simple restart will fix this.
Hope Nokia will fix this soon...
Edit: a restart will fix the files appearing correctly, but the issue still remains.

djunk said:
Same issue here. Nokia TA-1004 updated to Oreo. SD Card has issues. Any files you copy to the SD card will have the file written physically, but with a read error on the destination file. The file will appear as zero bytes. But a simple restart will fix this.
Hope Nokia will fix this soon...
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I can confirm this issue as well.
Tried total Commander and solid Explorer with same result - zero byte file
BTW factory reset does nothing as I have done it straight after updating to oreo (from recovery menu)

So, there's a way.
Use the default file manager, Files app. Copying and moving works well, from Internal to External memory and within also. I found the Files app rather basic, but it does work.
No zero bytes issue.
Just clear Files' app data and cache.
Works for me.
For 3rd party apps, we should wait for an update for the apps itself. I reinstalled File Manager + and X-plore, the issue is still present for these apps.
Maybe other file managers might work.

djunk said:
So, there's a way.
Use the default file manager, Files app. Copying and moving works well, from Internal to External memory and within also. I found the Files app rather basic, but it does work.
No zero bytes issue.
Just clear Files' app data and cache.
Works for me.
For 3rd party apps, we should wait for an update for the apps itself. I reinstalled File Manager + and X-plore, the issue is still present for these apps.
Maybe other file managers might work.
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I didn't know that the Nokia 8 comes equipped with a file manager app, is it made by Google? Can I find it on the play store please?

Yes, Nokia has its own file manager. No, its not made by Google and its not available in Playstore either.
Its called "Files" app, v8.0, because its Oreo maybe.
If you're using a 3rd party launcher, maybe it won't appear in your app list. Use the default launcher.
Or go to Settings -> Storage -> Internal Storage -> Files.
If you have an SD card, tap on the SD card in the storage settings to open the Files app.
Its integrated in the OS, can't be disabled, and I also can't find a way to extract its apk.
Hope you find it...

djunk said:
Yes, Nokia has its own file manager. No, its not made by Google and its not available in Playstore either.
Its called "Files" app, v8.0, because its Oreo maybe.
If you're using a 3rd party launcher, maybe it won't appear in your app list. Use the default launcher.
Or go to Settings -> Storage -> Internal Storage -> Files.
If you have an SD card, tap on the SD card in the storage settings to open the Files app.
Its integrated in the OS, can't be disabled, and I also can't find a way to extract its apk.
Hope you find it...
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Thanks a lot

It isn't a Nokia problem BTW, my mate is running Oreo (although not a final release) in his Galaxy S7 Edge and it has the same issue.

djunk said:
So, there's a way.
Use the default file manager, Files app. Copying and moving works well, from Internal to External memory and within also. I found the Files app rather basic, but it does work.
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I just tired moving 2 files from the system to the SD Card using the default file manager and both files were lost.

MrBelter said:
I just tired moving 2 files from the system to the SD Card using the default file manager and both files were lost.
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Remove and try reading the memory card on a computer, see if your files are there.
Clean data and cache for the Files app, and try again.
Can you try with another card for a chance.
Am using a Maxell class10 16gb card.
I hope this issue isn't related to card speeds or capacity.
I didn't try other cards though.
And other file managers still has the issue.

djunk said:
Remove and try reading the memory card on a computer, see if your files are there.
Clean data and cache for the Files app, and try again.
Can you try with another card for a chance.
Am using a Maxell class10 16gb card.
I hope this issue isn't related to card speeds or capacity.
I didn't try other cards though.
And other file managers still has the issue.
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It doesn't matter if the files are lost it was just to see if the default file explorer works correctly and it doesn't.
I am using a 64GB SanDisk Extreme Pro with 95MB/ reads and 90MB/s writes, i'd say that is a card that is up to the job. That said i don't think this is a anything to do with the cards people are using, i'd hazard a guess at Google changing how Android handles the files on an SD card in Oreo.

Well, seems we have to use the internal storage till Google makes this right...

Or the app makers work it out

At least X-plore works all right, Total Commander does have the problem as described.

No one seems to be updating any apps, i am wondering if Google borked it totally.

Well Google wouldn't care since they don't use SD cards on their devices. For me none of the 3rd party file managers work. Either we wait for Nokia to fix it or the app developers.

Also i discovered something else which is with the camera... If i choose to save the pictures on the SD when taking pictures, and press to see the photo from inside the camera app after i taken it, it wont open it.
It shows it as a small thumbnail that the photo was taken. Even if i go to the Photos to find the picture is not there. This only occurs when using the Nokia camera app and having selected to save on SD.
If i use a different camera app like the Google camera, or select from the Nokia camera app to save on the internal storage i don't have this issue.
I don't if that matters but im using a Samsung EVO Plus 64GB microSD

Paladin987 said:
Also i discovered something else which is with the camera... If i choose to save the pictures on the SD when taking pictures, and press to see the photo from inside the camera app after i taken it, it wont open it.
It shows it as a small thumbnail that the photo was taken. Even if i go to the Photos to find the picture is not there. This only occurs when using the Nokia camera app and having selected to save on SD.
If i use a different camera app like the Google camera, or select from the Nokia camera app to save on the internal storage i don't have this issue.
I don't if that matters but im using a Samsung EVO Plus 64GB microSD
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Try clearing the Cache Data for the stock camera app. On mine it works without issues, saving to Internal or SD card. I use a 16GB card though..

djunk said:
Try clearing the Cache Data for the stock camera app. On mine it works without issues, saving to Internal or SD card. I use a 16GB card though..
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Never crossed my mind to clear the cache, did and works now.
The weird thing is, that i talked to the support about this and they told me that the camera app doesn't have permissions to manage the SD storage so it won't work

SD card problems seem to be fixed in today's update