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I'm trying to decide between the sprint galaxy s 4, and the HTC one. My concern with the HTC is ROM development, my original galaxy s gets fully working cyanogenmod before a useful rom is made for my evo 3D. This seems to be the case with most all of their devices.
Why is it this way? Will the HTC one be this way as well? I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this. Thanks.
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richyrocket said:
I'm trying to decide between the sprint galaxy s 4, and the HTC one. My concern with the HTC is ROM development, my original galaxy s gets fully working cyanogenmod before a useful rom is made for my evo 3D. This seems to be the case with most all of their devices.
Why is it this way? Will the HTC one be this way as well? I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this. Thanks.
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lol! Cyanogenmod ROM comes first before stock ROM? Ain't believing it buddy
useful ROM = Stock ROM
Nono, the evo 3d has unofficial cyanogenmod at least 3 months after the epic 4g receives official. Two, unofficial AOSP roms seem to be more stable (and released earlier) on galaxy s devices than htc devices why is that? Both being flagships, what leaves htc behind in custom AOSP roms?
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My galaxy s would be on. 2.3, it is now on 4.2. The evo would be on 4.0 with outdated sense, it is now on 4.1. Nexus 7, stock 4.2. I use stock until the phone ages, and stock isn't good enough. I plan to have my next phone for 2 years, I might as well choose a phone that will stay current throughout those two years.
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HTC supports the flagship in every way possible, look at the One X. Even the newly released One is getting OTA at a crazy rate. And for custom rom developers, my Desire HD has fully stable 4.2.2 CM, AOKP and even paranoid. I hope this was helpful
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I'm glad they support, but they only go so far. Samsung goes further. in the end if I want to run custom roms, will it flop like my evos?
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richyrocket said:
I'm glad they support, but they only go so far. Samsung goes further. in the end if I want to run custom roms, will it flop like my evos?
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I really think that the One is getting a huge developer community. Look at the android development thread. 4 ROMs already released (with tweaks) while only a few have got the device till now
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I'm beginning to think that the evo 3d was just a horrible buy. I hope that the fact they're releasing the exact same device across all networks helps development. Still can't decide between the S4 and this. Both very good phones.
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richyrocket said:
I'm beginning to think that the evo 3d was just a horrible buy. I hope that the fact they're releasing the exact same device across all networks helps development. Still can't decide between the S4 and this. Both very good phones.
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Some comparison videos on YouTube might help
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Do you know if there's much of a reliability/durability difference between htc and Samsung?
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richyrocket said:
Do you know if there's much of a reliability/durability difference between htc and Samsung?
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I've never owned a Samsung, but I've owned 2 HTCs, and my device is great in durability. I have this phone for about 2.5 years and I drop it around once every 3 days (obviously not intentionally) and it still runs good, no issues. For Samsung, you should read Samsung forums.
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Ohh ok I got it now. Unfortunately there's won't be any CM or AOSP ROMs until kernel source code is out. Thing is Stock kernel is not compatible with AOSP/CM ROMs and the other way around since both custom and stock has some functions added to the kernel for it to work.
And the thing here is samsung releases kernel source code earlier than HTC. So it really depends on the situation. And by the way samsung is not releasing opening up it's exynos to developers. And now that samsung implemented octa core & big little architecture on their new processors. I doubt they would be able to make a CM/AOSP ROM anytime soon on S4.
I know cm10.1 runs slow as heck on my wife's one x as a custom sense rom works smooth as butter. On my note 2 cm10.1 actually runs better than any touchwiz rom. My advice is to wait until there both out and go see them in person. Both phones will get a good bit of development.
Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for. Do you think the unlocking/s off process going to be simple to get it to run AOSP? I had to do the horrifying "wire trick" to get AOSP on the evo 3d.
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It makes me wonder why AOSP runs so well on Samsung phones...?
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richyrocket said:
Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for. Do you think the unlocking/s off process going to be simple to get it to run AOSP? I had to do the horrifying "wire trick" to get AOSP on the evo 3d.
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You don't need s-off to run aosp. You just need to unlock on htc dev or buy the dev edition one that htc will offer. But yes I'm sure in time we will get s-off for everyone. Lol.. I remember the wire trick, I used to own a rezound, horrid phone. No I just did s-off on my wife's new one x and its just a command line hack and software.
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It makes me wonder why AOSP runs so well on Samsung phones...?
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I dunno as I've run aosp on a few htc's I've had and it ran fine.
Does anyone know why the One runs 4.1 instead of 4.2? I hope they don't keep us outdated like they did with all the phones stuck on 4.0 forever.
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richyrocket said:
Does anyone know why the One runs 4.1 instead of 4.2? I hope they don't keep us outdated like they did with all the phones stuck on 4.0 forever.
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Good question and I have no answer. My hopes is it will get a 4.2.2 update soon after launch.
I was thinking maybe because I don't see most of the key features from 4.2 fitting in with sense.
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I was thinking maybe because I don't see most of the key features from 4.2 fitting in with sense.
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Doubt that, it's not unusual for phones to ship a version behind. But with the s4 shipping with the latest I'd hope htc will push an update ASAP.
Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
Thanks in advance.
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m4rk0358 said:
Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
Thanks in advance.
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i say hold out until the next htc phone is announced
m4rk0358 said:
Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
Thanks in advance.
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i say it's worth it, it's always gonna be a next fone if u keep waiting for the next new thing
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i say it's worth it, it's always gonna be a next fone if u keep waiting for the next new thing
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But the HTC one is riddled with QC issues and doesn't really improve much over the last Gen of phones. The next Gen has snapdragon 800, 3000 mAh batteries and whatnot. Plus, the 800s are really close. Like the G2 is already here.
The One isn't that good IMHO. The camera is overhyped really and the number of defects people are reporting make this phone worth skipping.
To stay on track with your question the CM experience is something I don't think someone in their right mind would recomend. Hell it has a tendency to burn up some phones and need replaced.
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I agree if your sole decision is CM. Then wait. Cm was better on my gs3 than on here. It's pretty buggy and as has been said there are many reports of people's phones bricking cause of cm. To the quality control issue... I have had none, this phone has been great in that regard... But maybe I'm just lucky . In all honesty, overall this is the best phone I've ever owned. I don't think you'd go wrong with this phone.
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My $0.02:
For the short while I was able to use CM, I wasn't exactly blown away. It was exactly the same as my GS2, but with better specs. There were no extra features or anything. It looked nice with Black Infinitum, but again, not really different from my old phone. There were some bugs, so...
And you do have to watch out for the max freq lock, which will burn up your phone as it sits.
EDIT: However, CM Nemesis is coming soon. I would still wait for for a new device with better specs, but hey, this is a fairly new device.
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I agree if your sole decision is CM. Then wait. Cm was better on my gs3 than on here. It's pretty buggy and as has been said there are many reports of people's phones bricking cause of cm. To the quality control issue... I have had none, this phone has been great in that regard... But maybe I'm just lucky . In all honesty, overall this is the best phone I've ever owned. I don't think you'd go wrong with this phone.
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I really haven't had any issues since 10.1
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I used it for a week while on vacation and while it was nice to see a less bloated One with all the additional customization .. there were several issues and features that made me go back.
The biggest was GPS lock - I could not get a steady lock and if I did the radius was quite large, throwing me all over the map.
The phone actually seemed less responsive overall - including a slight delay when turning on the phone.
Missed the htc car app - google car and the ones from the market are not the same
and the IR - now it has only come in handy once, when my remote died; however, the remote can be fun at the bar
The HTCOne is a unique phone, the button layout is strange and is my biggest headache. Contrary to most posts above I like the CM experience on it better then sense, but this is my first (and only ever!) sense phone. I much prefer the AOSP experience. CM is lacking in a few places but core functionality is there and works good enough for me for daily use, for the record I'm on 10.2 20130819
Truthfully though I think I would wait for a new nexus device. I love the feel of the One in my hand but it's nothing amazing hardware wise.
You can always go GE and flash the CM mods.. GE is smooth as butter
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You can always go GE and flash the CM mods.. GE is smooth as butter
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You can not flash GE and flash CM mods. GE is senseless but still Sense based. You will mess up your phone if you did that
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
You can not flash GE and flash CM mods. GE is senseless but still Sense based. You will mess up your phone if you did that
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Aw man you're gonna make me look it up??
wrong. thanks for trying though
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Progress is being made. I just post a build in the 10.2 thread with working ir sensor.
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Aw man you're gonna make me look it up??
wrong. thanks for trying though
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Those are mods made for GE (ported) not AOSP mods for CM
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No major issues for everyday use. I've been running nightlies since I got the phone. Battery life is awesome and no random reboots.
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Those are mods made for GE (ported) not AOSP mods for CM
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Ok you lost me.. Did you click the link??
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Just a quick check guys.
Does the music still sound wonky? 10.1 would make my songs really quiet then normal then quiet etc. It drove me crazy.
Also, does the wake still take like a second? That was also a problem with 10.1.
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Just a quick check guys.
Does the music still sound wonky? 10.1 would make my songs really quiet then normal then quiet etc. It drove me crazy.
Also, does the wake still take like a second? That was also a problem with 10.1.
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On CM last I tried yeah. On GE.. No.
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On CM last I tried yeah. On GE.. No.
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Well crap. Thanks though. Are these even recognized issues?
Looks like I am going to get my note back from Mrs finbaar whiles he gets my N4. I have been in the world of Nexus for 13 months so the only roms that interest me are aosp based as I think I would faint if I had to use TouchWiz. So my question is is the TV out function working on the 4.3 roms. I am sure I read in one thread that this was unsupported but I can't find that now. Thanks for your help.
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Unsupported and there is no chance of it being supported. Also, you may be a bit shocked with the Note and AOSP
Ah great. Things are to stable in Nexus land anyway.
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I know that on paper the moto x is just a "mid range" device and i love the htc one in every single way...but sprint and its crappy service is even worst with my one. Idk if is just because is metal but my wifes galaxy s3 get better sigan everywhere we go. I heard motorola is really good with radios and anthenas and to be honest is the only phone on sprint's line up thats not a crappy samsung or an icrap that i would like to get...anyone has any input on this?
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Well allegedly there is a bug fix coming for how the one handles the 3g/4g switching. I would wait and see how 4.3 works.
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Well allegedly there is a bug fix coming for how the one handles the 3g/4g switching. I would wait and see how 4.3 works.
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So u wouldnt consider the moto x at all?
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Well I would at least wait the couple of weeks and see if things improve rather than splurging and buying another phone and paying an etf.
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If I was switching I'd consider the motox or gnote3
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So u wouldnt consider the moto x at all?
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Honestly, even with the features on the Moto X, the HTC One is the better phone. If I had my upgrade today instead of two months ago, I would still go with the One. Just my opinion though. Go to a store and try out the Moto X. See which one you like more!
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I experience the same issues as you. Wife's s3 holds onto signals better just about everywhere we go, Wi-Fi included.
the customization options for the Moto x had me drooling...until I noticed that was for the AT&T variant only.
I would hold out until 4.3 drops for sure.
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I experience the same issues as you. Wife's s3 holds onto signals better just about everywhere we go, Wi-Fi included.
the customization options for the Moto x had me drooling...until I noticed that was for the AT&T variant only.
I would hold out until 4.3 drops for sure.
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My wifi speeds are slower on my One than my S2. It's probably the metal but I don't think the iPhone has this problem. My speed test shows that I have 16 Mbps but the pages load as if I am getting 1 Mbps. Weird. Hopefully this is addressed in the 4.3 update if it's fixable
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Flash a ROM and lock it in roaming, enjoy great service until you get that termination letter. Switch carriers...profit.
Why would you downgrade lol
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Why would you downgrade lol
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because you give a lot of oil massages.
http://youtu.be/2_JQxm53114
I have a One and a Moto X and my One has been off an in my backpack for 2 weeks now. Just throwing that out there.
Hey I just updated to 4.3 and the camera issue is still there so Idk dude. Your call
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Hey I just updated to 4.3 and the camera issue is still there so Idk dude. Your call
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I dunno about moto being the one who makes good modems/attenas, but I know Samsung is known for having very good ones... I don't know why you wouldn't even consider a GS4 or a Note 3. Hell, if you're gonna switch carries why don't you just keep the ONE??
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Hey I just updated to 4.3 and the camera issue is still there so Idk dude. Your call
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I don't know why people were calling this a software issue. I think the software issue they were talking about fixing was the blur.
Is the X unlockable? After the photon/atrix fiasco I vowed never to touch another Motorola device.
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I switched from the moto from the One today. I switched because of the purple camera issue. 4.3 didn't fix it. I have to say I like it a lot more.
720p screen isn't bad at all, can't really tell. Its thinner than it seems in pictures. Runs really smooth. Cam is alright but havent taken any outdoor pics, just indoor so it may look better outside. The touchless controls and notifications aren't gimmicky, you'll use and like them. Moto assist is pretty good. The only thing I miss is the speakers in front.
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clavin78 said:
I switched from the moto from the One today. I switched because of the purple camera issue. 4.3 didn't fix it. I have to say I like it a lot more.
720p screen isn't bad at all, can't really tell. Its thinner than it seems in pictures. Runs really smooth. Cam is alright but havent taken any outdoor pics, just indoor so it may look better outside. The touchless controls and notifications aren't gimmicky, you'll use and like them. Moto assist is pretty good. The only thing I miss is the speakers in front.
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Don't know why you would do this without trying to fix your ONE first... It's obviously a hardware issue, not software. You can do all those things on the ONE so technically it is a gimmick. You basically just downgraded.
Its the second one I've had with the issue. Just got tired of it. Doesn't feel like a downgrade at all. Only on a spec sheet comparison. Its not aluminum but built very nice, feels great.
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Don't know why you would do this without trying to fix your ONE first... It's obviously a hardware issue, not software. You can do all those things on the ONE so technically it is a gimmick. You basically just downgraded.
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No, actually. Active notifications alone are a god damned good reason to never go back to my One. It's life changing. Touch less controls are fantastic. AOSP + those two things, boot loader unlockable, rom interchangeability with all carrier, equally if not more smooth experience than the one plus better battery life, higher resolution camera, and the phone is repairable. My one will stay in my backpack as a backup phone, thanks.
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I haven't even unlocked or rooted mine. There's nothing to fix here.
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Spent the last 30mins looking for how to get the old Zoe themes back. Since the new ones are so awful that I may very well sell my one on.
However are there any ROMs which add them back in?
Cannot seem to find any? Best I found is the music but not the theme?
Cheers for the help.
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Guessing the silence means no.
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Darn...I was hoping there would be an answer to this.