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32 GB Note or Atrix 2 plus quad core Asus Transformer?

I have almost hit the purchase button on the note but considering value of atrix 2, which only has slight less performance combined with quad core 10" Transformer which will probably get ICS before note.
Anyone else thought in these terms and still purchased note? Any realistic justifications or "just bought what you wanted"?
Same price.

Two different items my friend, go with what suits YOUR needs

I think when we consider these devices needs have little to do with it. I am doing just fine with a transformer and a symbian phone. I just WANT an android phone because I do use the tablet every single day and it is so awesome. So the choice, for me, is a lesser android phone and the new quad core (giving my existing transformer to a family member) or the Note. I am certain that ICS will come to the Asus device way before it does to the phones and I am keen on getting ICS. Don't think it will at all to the Atrix 2 or this would be an easy decision for me. Other choice for me is the HTC Vivid which will probably get ICS by end of March; that would be more expensive to get than the Atrix 2.

Personally, get the note. My gtab10 hasn't been turned on in weeks and I used to use it every day for work/play. The note (for me) totally fills the tablet role while still being a phone AND has the advantage of always being with me.
Now I just need someone to make a back cover with credit card slots and I can ditch my wallet!
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O and as much as I love the vivid they still didnt have root access as of a week or two ago, stay sway.
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if youre going to get a phone and a tablet anyway... why dont you just wait for the asus padfone? its a quad core tegra3 phone that docks into a tablet. best of both worlds.

Souai said:
if youre going to get a phone and a tablet anyway... why dont you just wait for the asus padfone? its a quad core tegra3 phone that docks into a tablet. best of both worlds.
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A great idea and one I have considered. Especially since Asus has been FANTASTIC about releasing updates on the transformer.
But I am afraid if I did that, then when it started shipping I would want to wait on the newly announced 8 core device, and when that starts shipping I may want to wait on the newly announced 16 core device and...

I'm not up to date on the Asus specs, but here's a perspective you may want to consider:
Fuhgedda about all dem fancy specs...
What do I mean? Well, super quadcore specs only really count in one area -- games. The Note already has a good arsenal of games, and with OnLive maturing, it won't really matter too much anyway. In other words, for gaming, besides display size, Note == Asus.
For everything else, including e-books, web surfing, remote PC, music/video... these are easily handled by anything dual core+ and above. Again, Note == Asus.
So the real question is not hardware specs, but usability. Do you prefer a bigger platform that a large tablet offers, but that you can't bring with you everywhere? Yes?... then Asus. You will still need a separate smartphone for everyday and everywhere use, however.
Or do you prefer a device that gives you just about everything you need in your pocket (including a portable pocket gaming console)... If so, then the Galaxy Note is your answer...

lightfire said:
A great idea and one I have considered. Especially since Asus has been FANTASTIC about releasing updates on the transformer.
But I am afraid if I did that, then when it started shipping I would want to wait on the newly announced 8 core device, and when that starts shipping I may want to wait on the newly announced 16 core device and...
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8 cores are barely viable on PC, so you wont see them on phones anytime soon. unless they start playing it smart and taking advantage of CUDA instead of the cpu, then they could save power and still have kick ass performance.
as an example, my cpu has 8 hyperthreaded cores overclocked to 5ghz and draws 200w of power. my old geforce gtx560 ti soc has 384 cuda cores running at 2ghz and also draws 200w of power. take a guess which one can handle calculations faster?
if they start working on improving the way the GPU is used on phones, we can have faster phones that use less power.
but since the asus padfone is supposed to launch q1 2012, its not that long of a wait for a kick ass setup.
psionic11 said:
So the real question is not hardware specs, but usability. Do you prefer a bigger platform that a large tablet offers, but that you can't bring with you everywhere? Yes?... then Asus. You will still need a separate smartphone for everyday and everywhere use, however.
Or do you prefer a device that gives you just about everything you need in your pocket (including a portable pocket gaming console)... If so, then the Galaxy Note is your answer...
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the asus padfone is a quad core phone that docks into a tablet. ie. you have the portability of a phone whenever you need it, and you can dock it into a tablet whenever you want to.
not too sure about you, but tablets are pretty portable. you can just carry them around in your messenger bag since some tablets only weigh like 700g.

OK... Quick question. Why does ANYONE need 4 cores on a PHONE???? What would you be doing to require 4 cores? Really!!! Angry birds? The top games? Some picture editing (which is still fine, and in reality, all you'd need is more RAM rather than more speed)?
4 Cores seems like over kill right now and for the next 2-3 years. I don't see a use for it. I use my phone for:
calls, casual gaming, browsing the web, watching videos, listening to music. I also had the blackberry 9900 which was a 1.2ghz single core, and I didn't get any hiccups on that device. Now we have 2 1.4 ghz processors.
ICS will come to both devices. pick the device you MOST like. Don't get hung up on processors on mobile devices that are originally intended to make calls and write messages. Sure, it's important, but I wouldn't want mediocre battery life and 4 cores that I wouldn't even use. That's just me.

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OK... Quick question. Why does ANYONE need 4 cores on a PHONE???? What would you be doing to require 4 cores? Really!!! Angry birds? The top games? Some picture editing (which is still fine, and in reality, all you'd need is more RAM rather than more speed)?
4 Cores seems like over kill right now and for the next 2-3 years. I don't see a use for it. I use my phone for:
calls, casual gaming, browsing the web, watching videos, listening to music. I also had the blackberry 9900 which was a 1.2ghz single core, and I didn't get any hiccups on that device. Now we have 2 1.4 ghz processors.
ICS will come to both devices. pick the device you MOST like. Don't get hung up on processors on mobile devices that are originally intended to make calls and write messages. Sure, it's important, but I wouldn't want mediocre battery life and 4 cores that I wouldn't even use. That's just me.
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Good points.
However, I do believe that the quad cores, per everything I have read, get BETTER battery life due to increased efficiency. We will have to wait and see about real-world performance.
Will make decision today, either a 32GB note or an HTC vivid.

Is it odd to think like this?

I think the Note is the best phone currently on the market, having spent over £600 for my note, I hate to think that there will be better phones released this year, such as with quad core processors, I wish there wasn't any phone better than the Note because I enjoy my purchase and want it to last for a long time, I don't want to spend that kind of cash again on a phone.
Then I think...those phone with quad core processors will have bad battery life and I try to think of negatives, I guess I just always want to have the best phone on the market there is.

SealsNavie said:
I think the Note is the best phone currently on the market, having spent over £600 for my note, I hate to think that there will be better phones released this year, such as with quad core processors, I wish there wasn't any phone better than the Note because I enjoy my purchase and want it to last for a long time, I don't want to spend that kind of cash again on a phone.
Then I think...those phone with quad core processors will have bad battery life and I try to think of negatives, I guess I just always want to have the best phone on the market there is.
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There will always be a better device! But the Note is currently superior imho
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SealsNavie said:
I think the Note is the best phone currently on the market, having spent over £600 for my note, I hate to think that there will be better phones released this year, such as with quad core processors
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There's some sort of Murphy's law of technology that says that once you buy a phone, something better will be announced one month later.
Waiting for the next best thing just means that you wait forever.
The Note is one of a kind tough - I'll proudly hold my note up against whatever the galaxy S3 has. I'm a bit jealous of that 3,300 mah battery in the new razr, but whatever.
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better SPECed phones is one thing. Better phone is another.
Sure there will be better speced phones in a month, but I don't think there will be a better phone for me for a while .

zkyevolved said:
better SPECed phones is one thing. Better phone is another.
Sure there will be better speced phones in a month, but I don't think there will be a better phone for me for a while .
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Are you talking about the screen size amongst other things?...because for me the screen size is perfect...not too big or too small, I can use it with one hand, even though using 2 hands to text is much faster, which I do the majority of the time, just browsing through system is easily done with one hand.
The good thing about the note is that I doubt there will be any upcoming phones on the market that have a bigger screen than 5.3", the Note stands out in that aspect and the majority of phone users don't prefer such a big screen phone, they are missing out...only because I love a big screen and because of that I hope other manufacturers don't copy from the Note and release similar phones.
Personally I don't other devices will have much of a success because the Note is the 1st tablet/phone hybrid and who wants to buy upgrade every 6 months to a new device anyway?...who would willing to buy my Note for £400?

The quad core technology being used in the latest phones are more energy efficient then the current Dual Core. This is because the Tegra 3 uses a 5th core to manage back ground applications. This 5th core is run at a much lower frequency then the rest(down clocked) and since you have more core's the work is more evenly distributed, so unless you are doing something that needs all 4, your not going to use much energy.
Mainly it comes down to Core Management. ICS employing dual core management, Ginger Bread does not. So you should see a improvement once we get ICS

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The quad core technology being used in the latest phones are more energy efficient then the current Dual Core. This is because the Tegra 3 uses a 5th core to manage back ground applications. This 5th core is run at a much lower frequency then the rest(down clocked) and since you have more core's the work is more evenly distributed, so unless you are doing something that needs all 4, your not going to use much energy.
Mainly it comes down to Core Management. ICS employing dual core management, Ginger Bread does not. So you should see a improvement once we get ICS
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I'm not too fussed about quad core to be honest, i'm looking to develop in the near future after my studies so performance isn't an issue. I think a dual core is just enough as even a single processor operating at 1.4GHz is fast enough, RAM and GPU speeds are more important for games and I do't think CPU speed matters too much, unless we are going to see all of them 3 improvements including a screen the size of 5.3" then I would be jealous
Then again, the price has to very high doesn't it? So...a big screen may be out of the window for some time for these new quad core phones.

[Q] Galaxy Nexus or HTC One X for upgrade?

The time has come. The N1 has put up a good fight, and is still fighting to stay up to date, but it's an uphill battle.
So I recently became eligible for a upgrade through At&t. Unfortunately the best Android phone they have to offer right now is the Galaxy S II. I'm the kind of guy who isn't going to drop hundreds of dollars for a phone I will have for 2 years that can't compete in a year.
So Here's my plan (this is actually how I got the cash to get the N1, albeit an iPhone 4)
Buy a iPhone 4S through At&t for $150 (refurb)
Sell it on ebay for ~$450-500
End up with an excess ~$350
Sell my N1 for ~$100
~$450 total
I can then make up the difference out of my own pocket
$500 is also roughly the amount the Galaxy Nexus is unsubsidized.
The One X looks like an amazing phone. However, the one that will be offered through At&t will be dual core 1.5GHZ, which is still better than the Galaxy Nexus' dual 1.2GHZ. However, if I'm going to have this phone for the next 2 years, it's going to be kick-ass, so I would go with the international tegra 3 quad core One X being offered unsubsidized. Right now that will run more more that $500 surely, but I'll be getting a monster.
I'm also extremely impressed with the community for Nexus devices. The ability to flash countless ROM's is a convenience I wish all phones could have, and something I do quite often. I know HTC has unlock-able bootloaders now, but I don't think they have as much community support for various ROM's, recovery's, etc. I do love the build quality of HTC devices so much more than Samsung though.
So my question to you all is, should I stay true to the Nexus line and get an extremely solid phone, or go for the One-X with almost 3x as much processing power?

XSafire said:
The time has come. The N1 has put up a good fight, and is still fighting to stay up to date, but it's an uphill battle.
So I recently became eligible for a upgrade through At&t. Unfortunately the best Android phone they have to offer right now is the Galaxy S II. I'm the kind of guy who isn't going to drop hundreds of dollars for a phone I will have for 2 years that can't compete in a year.
So Here's my plan (this is actually how I got the cash to get the N1, albeit an iPhone 4)
Buy a iPhone 4S through At&t for $150 (refurb)
Sell it on ebay for ~$450-500
End up with an excess ~$350
Sell my N1 for ~$100
~$450 total
I can then make up the difference out of my own pocket
$500 is also roughly the amount the Galaxy Nexus is unsubsidized.
The One X looks like an amazing phone. However, the one that will be offered through At&t will be dual core 1.5GHZ, which is still better than the Galaxy Nexus' dual 1.2GHZ. However, if I'm going to have this phone for the next 2 years, it's going to be kick-ass, so I would go with the international tegra 3 quad core One X being offered unsubsidized. Right now that will run more more that $500 surely, but I'll be getting a monster.
I'm also extremely impressed with the community for Nexus devices. The ability to flash countless ROM's is a convenience I wish all phones could have, and something I do quite often. I know HTC has unlock-able bootloaders now, but I don't think they have as much community support for various ROM's, recovery's, etc. I do love the build quality of HTC devices so much more than Samsung though.
So my question to you all is, should I stay true to the Nexus line and get an extremely solid phone, or go for the One-X with almost 3x as much processing power?
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You never get 100$ for a used nexus one. More like 40~50$. They go new for around 100$

Read the comparisons between Tegra 3 and MSM8960. The dual-core One X will most likely be more powerful and less battery-eater than Tegra 3 one. The number of cores doesn't equal performance. You can get it through AT&T and that would make your plan much simpler.

Jack_R1 said:
Read the comparisons between Tegra 3 and MSM8960. The dual-core One X will most likely be more powerful and less battery-eater than Tegra 3 one. The number of cores doesn't equal performance. You can get it through AT&T and that would make your plan much simpler.
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Thanks for that. So would you choose the One XL over the Galaxy Nexus?

I might not be a good example. After a year with Nexus One, mostly running Enomther's ROM (somewhere between AOSP and CM), and trying some CM7, I grew really fond of Sense, especially after using Sense 3 for a while (running Sense 3.5 on my MT4G now). Stock Android has so many stupid quirks and limitations that I can't stand it. Plus, I completely dislike stock ICS look, it's awful IMHO, and I didn't particularly like Gingerbread either, Froyo was much closer to my taste - and Sense reminds me of it. So I would definitely take a phone that can run Sense ROMs over a phone that can't, but as you can see, it's my subjective opinion.
There is one more lesson I learned from Nexus One: user base counts. With Galaxy Nexus, all you get is a new OS 1-2 months ahead, and relatively small user base - while most likely having devs, but also more likely to jump to another, newer phone quite fast. On the other hand, on One X for 1-2 months delay in OS update you'll get more variants - in addition to stock Sense there will be AOSP, CM and MIUI variants like for any other phone, and most of all - you'll probably get A LOT more users, which eventually equals much better support community. Look at Nexus One development versus the good old Desire. If I'd pick Desire back then - I'd still be using it now.

Seems to me the choice is clear.....lol
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Wait, what? The HTC One X isn't dual core. It's got a quad core processor.

Theshawty said:
Wait, what? The HTC One X isn't dual core. It's got a quad core processor.
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Only the international version.
The US version gets a dual core but it's a beast dual core at that.
Benchmarks better than Tegra 3.
You really can't go wrong with it.

This one is for dual core Snapdragon S4, I believe.

I Am Marino said:
Only the international version.
The US version gets a dual core but it's a beast dual core at that.
Benchmarks better than Tegra 3.
You really can't go wrong with it.
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Dafuq? Why do they make two versions of it?
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Theshawty said:
Dafuq? Why do they make two versions of it?
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Because Tegra3 does not play nicely with LTE.
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XSafire said:
The time has come. The N1 has put up a good fight, and is still fighting to stay up to date, but it's an uphill battle.
So I recently became eligible for a upgrade through At&t. Unfortunately the best Android phone they have to offer right now is the Galaxy S II. I'm the kind of guy who isn't going to drop hundreds of dollars for a phone I will have for 2 years that can't compete in a year.
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http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...wtSlotClick=1-007D1Y!903920-1-1&rel=nofollow#
SGS2, $10 if you buy it today, with two year contract. $100 otherwise... Your plan seems silly.

I Am Marino said:
Only the international version.
The US version gets a dual core but it's a beast dual core at that.
Benchmarks better than Tegra 3.
You really can't go wrong with it.
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No the tegra 3 still outperforms it in raw power by like 70 percent, but the dual core that i has is a beast no doubt about that
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ray3andrei said:
No the tegra 3 still outperforms it in raw power by like 70 percent, but the dual core that i has is a beast no doubt about that
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That's according to what benchmark exactly?
Anandtech says you either don't know what you're talking about or can't read charts (or both). Maybe if you mean that dual-core S4 outperforms quad-core Tegra 3 by 70%:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
Seeing these numbers, HTC's decision to go with Tegra3 leaves you thinking, what's wrong with them. The most probable reason is that they had to decide when the CPUs weren't anywhere near ready, and they evaluated them to be more or less equal, and given the marketing hype of Nvidia and a bit earlier arrival, chose it for flagship device. Well, I guess their management is not too happy now to say the least, when the CPUs are out in the wild and the results are on the table, but that also could make AT&T's One X a big hit, like I said.

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That's according to what benchmark exactly?
Anandtech says you either don't know what you're talking about or can't read charts (or both). Maybe if you mean that dual-core S4 outperforms quad-core Tegra 3 by 70%:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
Seeing these numbers, HTC's decision to go with Tegra3 leaves you thinking, what's wrong with them. The most probable reason is that they had to decide when the CPUs weren't anywhere near ready, and they evaluated them to be more or less equal, and given the marketing hype of Nvidia and a bit earlier arrival, chose it for flagship device. Well, I guess their management is not too happy now to say the least, when the CPUs are out in the wild and the results are on the table, but that also could make AT&T's One X a big hit, like I said.
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Are you being serious.. do you trust the bull**** on amandtech.... honestly you didnt hold the device in your hands to see how it performs, nor did you see a clip of it being benchmarked. Its impossible how 2 cores 1.5Ghz can beat a quad core 1.6Ghz the the arm in the s4 doesnt give double the performance compared to the arm in tegra 3... seriously, its like comparing an intel core i5 to a amd phenom 2....
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Jack_R1 said:
That's according to what benchmark exactly?
Anandtech says you either don't know what you're talking about or can't read charts (or both). Maybe if you mean that dual-core S4 outperforms quad-core Tegra 3 by 70%:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
Seeing these numbers, HTC's decision to go with Tegra3 leaves you thinking, what's wrong with them. The most probable reason is that they had to decide when the CPUs weren't anywhere near ready, and they evaluated them to be more or less equal, and given the marketing hype of Nvidia and a bit earlier arrival, chose it for flagship device. Well, I guess their management is not too happy now to say the least, when the CPUs are out in the wild and the results are on the table, but that also could make AT&T's One X a big hit, like I said.
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I also saw pics of a galaxy nexus cooked and all that kitchen stuff i saw PICS only that doesnt prove anything, i own a transformer prime and its really good but it tends to lag when it switches from companion core to the actual cores, i saw benchmarks where the ram in the one x (s4) completely crushes the ram in the prime which is almost impossible because the ram in the prime runs at twice the clock speed. But it is single channel compared to dual channel in the s4 on paper the tegra 3 is faster.. by a lot ...
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ray3andrei said:
Are you being serious.. do you trust the bull**** on amandtech.... honestly you didnt hold the device in your hands to see how it performs, nor did you see a clip of it being benchmarked. Its impossible how 2 cores 1.5Ghz can beat a quad core 1.6Ghz the the arm in the s4 doesnt give double the performance compared to the arm in tegra 3... seriously, its like comparing an intel core i5 to a amd phenom 2....
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That's only because you don't know a thing about what's in both, how they work and how the Linux kernel above both works. If you manage to read the beginning of the article, you'll see that Krait in S4 is no Cortex A9. Yes, especially in FPU operations, it can double, triple and quadruple the performance of a regular A9, and is generally much faster.
You're resorting to 2nd-grade defense, which could be expected from a Tegra3-based-device owner-fanboy. The benchmarks are just that - benchmarks, and if you're talking "raw power" and giving numbers - back them up with raw data, which benchmarks are (more or less objective, but it's not the point here). Otherwise just say "I own a Tegra3 device and it performs fine, and I have no idea what dual-core Krait performs like, because I never saw one". There's nothing else you can possibly say. "Impossible"? Says who?
P.S. It's funny that you assumed that I "didn't hold the device in my hands".

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That's only because you don't know a thing about what's in both, how they work and how the Linux kernel above both works. If you manage to read the beginning of the article, you'll see that Krait in S4 is no Cortex A9. Yes, especially in FPU operations, it can double, triple and quadruple the performance of a regular A9, and is generally much faster.
You're resorting to 2nd-grade defense, which could be expected from a Tegra3-based-device owner-fanboy. The benchmarks are just that - benchmarks, and if you're talking "raw power" and giving numbers - back them up with raw data, which benchmarks are (more or less objective, but it's not the point here). Otherwise just say "I own a Tegra3 device and it performs fine, and I have no idea what dual-core Krait performs like, because I never saw one". There's nothing else you can possibly say. "Impossible"? Says who?
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Haha....i didnt say a9 did I, you seem to be really pissed dude... show me a vid where the one x gets benchmarked.. and im not a fanboy.. in fact i like my nexus more than my prime..
On paper the tegra 3 is better and even if it uses arm a15mp core it still wouldn't match sorry im done here
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That's only because you don't know a thing about what's in both, how they work and how the Linux kernel above both works. If you manage to read the beginning of the article, you'll see that Krait in S4 is no Cortex A9. Yes, especially in FPU operations, it can double, triple and quadruple the performance of a regular A9, and is generally much faster.
You're resorting to 2nd-grade defense, which could be expected from a Tegra3-based-device owner-fanboy. The benchmarks are just that - benchmarks, and if you're talking "raw power" and giving numbers - back them up with raw data, which benchmarks are (more or less objective, but it's not the point here). Otherwise just say "I own a Tegra3 device and it performs fine, and I have no idea what dual-core Krait performs like, because I never saw one". There's nothing else you can possibly say. "Impossible"? Says who?
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If i look at thr quadrant benchmark it gets 8500, on my prime i get 11000.. so the t3 is faster.. sorry
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I would choose the nexus only because of the screen, stock ics, and 1st to get updates, anything else go for the one x regardless of the version you get
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How future proof is the Nexus 7

Looking for a fully featured 7 tablet, that I will be using for web browsing, gaming (intense ones ) and studying.
Planning on using this device for a couple of years before replacing I am assuming 3 to 4 years?
Our family currently has the Tab 2 7.0 and I reckon it's a bit sluggish, is the Nexus 7 exceptionally smooth?
Should I get it?

It's a Nexus device so will be supported for a couple of years at least with the latest and greatest Android.
It will already be a upgrade from the Tab, as it runs Jellybean.
Nothing in the world is future-proof more than a few years (notable exception being my PS3, which is stil bang upto date despite being bought in 2006).

In terms of processing-power it's right up there with the Nexus 4 and the Galaxy SIII, so you're not looking at problems playing games in the near future.
Also, you got an active development community for the device, so even if Google decides to not support the tablet with new versions of Android, you can still keep up to date with what the devs are pumping out.
I've been using mine almost all the time when i'm not sitting in front of my rig, and it has never let me down.

I might say it is likely to be future proof for at least 2 years. It has the hardware, and Google is known to support their nexus line for quite a while. My guess is that it will be in the front line of the upcoming key lime pie update tier.

It's not really possibly to future proof a device until performance can only be increased by a change in architecture, and even then only marginally, much like in the pc category.
Software wise it's a nexus, it will rule the roost for 2-3 upgrades
Hardware wise I'll give it till the new Tegra 4, snapdragon 800 and the exynos 5 octa come out
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ramnex said:
It's not really possibly to future proof a device until performance can only be increased by a change in architecture, and even then only marginally, much like in the pc category.
Software wise it's a nexus, it will rule the roost for 2-3 upgrades
Hardware wise I'll give it till the new Tegra 4, snapdragon 800 and the exynos 5 octa come out
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I know that the new chips introduced at CES 2013 are a few times more powerfull than the Tegra 3. What I ment was that future apps and games will work OK for 2 years. The average life span of a phone and table is 2 years, if it's a flagship device at the time you make the purchase. And the thing is if you fear buying a new device just because it's not future proof, you'll end up never buying anything. 200 dollars isn't a lot of money for what you're getting with this tablet.

Re: How future proof is the Nexus 70
I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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The N7 is faster than a Tab, its processors clock at 1.3 GHz and in terms of build quality i'd say they are on equal levels.
I know there are a few stories out there about screen lift on early batches of the N7, but since I can only speak from personal experience, I can say that the build quality of mine is exceptional.

OptimusLove said:
I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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You probably shouldn't try to provide an answer when you don't know what you're talking about. The nexus 7 is a 1.2ghz quad core processor, tab 2 is 1ghz dual core, not the same. As for apps Samsung forces on users, there's always plenty of alternatives on the play store.
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CrazyPeter said:
It's a Nexus device so will be supported for a couple of years at least with the latest and greatest Android.
It will already be a upgrade from the Tab, as it runs Jellybean.
Nothing in the world is future-proof more than a few years (notable exception being my PS3, which is stil bang upto date despite being bought in 2006).
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I hope so. I just bought one off of Ebay and I'm waiting on delivery. I'm a little skeptical of the performance of the N7. I have a SG3 that has higher Quadrant scores, so I hope it has enough processing power to go beyond KLP.

If I were you, I wouldn't give a rats ass about Quadrant scores, as they usually say jack-s**t about the speed or usability of a device.
Same deal with PC-Benchmarks really, they are a marketing tool to get you to buy new hardware.

2 years for a 250$ device seems like more than enough to say that it paid for itself. Most probably the games development will skyrocket, better specs will be required, better screens, more storage space. So, as I said, for me 2 years is a good estimate.

jadephyre said:
If I were you, I wouldn't give a rats ass about Quadrant scores, as they usually say jack-s**t about the speed or usability of a device.
Same deal with PC-Benchmarks really, they are a marketing tool to get you to buy new hardware.
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Greed, that's is what i bought one.
I bought my wife a TF300 several months ago, it is on par with the N7's performance but the N7 cost almost half the price.

IAmNice said:
Its a 1.3 GHz quad core.
Just buy it. It should be future proof for at least 1 year. Its cheap anyways
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It's a 1.2 quad core, 1.3 is single core mode.
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95Z28 said:
It's a 1.2 quad core, 1.3 is single core mode.
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Um. What? It's a quad core 1.3ghz. The companion core is is 500Mhz.

let me put this in perspective... technology changes at a rapid rate. since the n7's release just 6 months, there are now a few devices that outperform it in games (the galaxy note 2 is a great example). play some intense games like need for speed on the n7 and galaxy note 2 and you will see how laggy the n7 can get compared to other devices. the n7 is already becoming an outdated device, hardware-wise. games will only become more demanding, they're not gonna just hit a plateau for two years or wait until the n7 has had a good shelf life. games are already lagging on the n7. if you want something future proof for the next year or two, then good luck, that will never happen with tablets because of the growing rate of the software market. your best bet is to buy the latest and greatest when it's released. that's the only way to "futureproof" yourself.

IAmNice said:
Its a 1.3 GHz quad core.
Just buy it. It should be future proof for at least 1 year. Its cheap anyways
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maybe not..
http://www.nu.nl/gadgets/3016117/asus-maakt-tweede-nexus-7-tablet.html
or in english: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130128PD222.html
it depends on when google wil release the next nexus 7.

OptimusLove said:
I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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Wrong on so many levels. Is this why you wanted to hang out in here even though you don't have a N7?
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let me put this in perspective... technology changes at a rapid rate. since the n7's release just 6 months, there are now a few devices that outperform it in games (the galaxy note 2 is a great example). play some intense games like need for speed on the n7 and galaxy note 2 and you will see how laggy the n7 can get compared to other devices. the n7 is already becoming an outdated device, hardware-wise. games will only become more demanding, they're not gonna just hit a plateau for two years or wait until the n7 has had a good shelf life. games are already lagging on the n7. if you want something future proof for the next year or two, then good luck, that will never happen with tablets because of the growing rate of the software market. your best bet is to buy the latest and greatest when it's released. that's the only way to "futureproof" yourself.
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This is contrary to everything I read about the tab 2 before buying my N7. Almost every reviewer complained about the Tab 2 being noticeably slower than the N7 in gaming.

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This is contrary to everything I read about the tab 2 before buying my N7. Almost every reviewer complained about the Tab 2 being noticeably slower than the N7 in gaming.
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i never mention the Galaxy Tab 2 in my post.

It's a Nexus device, so it will be supported going forward for quite a while, and since it is easy to unlock, the developer community will support it for quite a while.
It probably won't be the best gaming device in 2 years, since that pushes hardware well beyond most other tasks, but if it starts to get a bit slower, you can always push the clocks. It seems most of the N7s will push the cores to 1.4 or 1.5 without any issues, and 1.6 is doable for burst before hitting thermal limits, with some chips able to run even faster. The GPU pushes quite well too.
I'd fully suggest one as a reasonably future-proof device. Plus, they'll likely still resell for $50-$100 in 2 years, which means you're paying $50-$75/yr for a Nexus device. That's pretty good.

Note 5 or s7?

I'm really eager to upgrade my device in a few weeks and was wondering if should get the note 5 or wait for the s7 with the new processor... in February? I cannot deal with this buggy, and slow iPhone 5s anymore...

I mean, you're always going to be waiting for the latest and greatest given how often new models are released.
Personally, I think the Note 5 and S6 are pretty good phones as-is. They're certainly not slow, so you don't necessarily need the new processor.
Check it out in-person and see if there are any shortcomings/annoyances/things that don't meet your needs...if it's a big enough deal, then wait to see what the next generation brings.

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I mean, you're always going to be waiting for the latest and greatest given how often new models are released.
Personally, I think the Note 5 and S6 are pretty good phones as-is. They're certainly not slow, so you don't necessarily need the new processor.
Check it out in-person and see if there are any shortcomings/annoyances/things that don't meet your needs...if it's a big enough deal, then wait to see what the next generation brings.
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I personally think so too but the s6 display seems small for me and I've played both the note 5 and s6. The only annoyances I've had with the current generation galaxy S and note series are the lack of expandable storage and removable battery... Note 4 would be an alternative BUT fingerprint scanner sucks on that phone, bad speaker placement, and it's an old device. I really wish the note 5 had the usb-type c charging port, and expandable storage with at least 3700+mah battery.... So that I wouldn't care for the removable back.

I would wait for the s7. I would wait to see the performance of the new Snapdragon 820 and the exynos 8890 processors, depending where in the world you are. The 820 is supposed to be much better than the 801 or 805...(not even counting the 810 and its poor performance). Also If you're crazy about displays, there is also the rumor that there is an additional premium 7s model with a 4k screen. The only reason to just get the note 5 is if you have to have a stylus.

Wait for the S8..
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