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Desire Source Out: FM Radio Anyone?

Hi all!
I just wondering. Since the desire kernal source is out (link: http://member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/bravo_54b7033a.tar.gz ) are we going to wait for FroYo to see if google got the FM radio working on there, or shall we have a look at the desire rom to see how HTC did it?

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Would love to see this working on my N1

It's most likely disabled at a hardware level.

paul (of modaco) has had the desire ROM up and running for sometime on our N1, but the FM radio does not work yet.
froyo is reputed to be bringing the functionality.
please search this sort of thing. if you had gone to the dev section, you would have seen that there are several desire ROMs working, none of which incorporate a functional FM radio.

If YOU would do some reading you'd know he means now we can maybe get some hints on how we can get the DRIVER working for the fm transmitter, not get an app for it.

PhantomRampage said:
If YOU would do some reading you'd know he means now we can maybe get some hints on how we can get the DRIVER working for the fm transmitter, not get an app for it.
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if YOU had read my reply, you would have noticed that i did not suggest an app, and what i was saying was that the driver for the desire DOES NOT WORK on the N1.
lord, i swear sometimes it is like herding cats around here sometimes.

timothydonohue said:
if YOU had read my reply, you would have noticed that i did not suggest an app, and what i was saying was that the driver for the desire DOES NOT WORK on the N1.
lord, i swear sometimes it is like herding cats around here sometimes.
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"meow"

Okay, sorry if this is incorrect, but i was led to believe that those desrie roms had nothing to do with the true desire kernal, since the source was not released yet...I actually think i remember paul or someone big into the "sense on nexus deal" saying they still NEEDED the kernal to figure out how htc used the fm transmitter.
If i am incorrect, ooops.

sassyness77 said:
Okay, sorry if this is incorrect, but i was led to believe that those desrie roms had nothing to do with the true desire kernal, since the source was not released yet...I actually think i remember paul or someone big into the "sense on nexus deal" saying they still NEEDED the kernal to figure out how htc used the fm transmitter.
If i am incorrect, ooops.
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I think thats right but even with the source we may never have it working. We'll see soon enough

timothydonohue said:
paul (of modaco) has had the desire ROM up and running for sometime on our N1, but the FM radio does not work yet.
froyo is reputed to be bringing the functionality.
please search this sort of thing. if you had gone to the dev section, you would have seen that there are several desire ROMs working, none of which incorporate a functional FM radio.
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I remember reading that the FM radio does not work because Paul needed the Desire Kernel, but there is no guarantee that even with the Desire kernel, the N1 radio will work.

Well if i remember correctly, paul almost got the radio working, it could boot up, but didnt find any stations on scan. It is also correct that he wanted the desire kernal to fix it, but im wondering if anyone else is looking into it apart from him

Johnex said:
Well if i remember correctly, paul almost got the radio working, it could boot up, but didnt find any stations on scan. It is also correct that he wanted the desire kernal to fix it, but im wondering if anyone else is looking into it apart from him
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I have an N1 with the FM Radio installed and it does scan and find stations even showing the text stream across the top of the app but no sound whatsoever :-( As mentioned before a good alternate app if you really want FM radio is RadioTime on the market. Works very well.

Since FroYo is rumored to bring FM radio with it, I guess that no dev will be doing anything about it until FroYo is out and the rumor is confirmed (bringing the radio to N1 users) or denied (and in this case someone might take a look at Desire kernel and "find" the missing audio, if it's not HW-related).

There is little reason to expend valuable time on something that might be fixed within a few weeks when you have other work which is not going to fix itself. Not said in so many words but I get the impression its on the back burner till the solids are in on froyo.

Pfft fm, what I want is an AM radio.

From the list of Froyo features published, it does not look like the N1 will be getting FM radio or transmitter in this release (if it’s even possible)

Teeceman said:
From the list of Froyo features published, it does not look like the N1 will be getting FM radio or transmitter in this release (if it’s even possible)
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Why are you looking at the base code and assuming the device specific updates will not include different things?

Any EEs out there know what kind of battery drain is expected from using the FM radio? I know this is dependant on a lot of things, any insight will be nice to know.
I'm mainly interested in FM so I can listen to live NPR broadcast.

A bit more than just playing MP3s. Plus, it depends on the design - specifically on the chip used and on how much power conservation its makers managed to squeeze.

Jack_R1 said:
A bit more than just playing MP3s. Plus, it depends on the design - specifically on the chip used and on how much power conservation its makers managed to squeeze.
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I have to disagree with you on this one Jack, FM circuits are small and once your set it, it should just play, very little is going on. Where as with MP3s there is actual processing going on.

FM radio from Desire.

Hi,
Has anyone managed to get the FM radio software from the Desire to work on a Nexus One? I think it should be fairly easy. If no-one has done it, I might try - is there a convenient place to download the unzipped contents of a desire rom?
Once it is working I intend to try to get FM transmit to work.
Tim
PS: Yes I did search the forum. You can't search for 'FM'; it is too short.
PPS: This all assumes the FM antenna pin from the broadcom chip is connected to the headphone socket. I can't see why they wouldn't do that though.

Timmmmmm said:
Hi,
Has anyone managed to get the FM radio software from the Desire to work on a Nexus One? I think it should be fairly easy. If no-one has done it, I might try - is there a convenient place to download the unzipped contents of a desire rom?
Once it is working I intend to try to get FM transmit to work.
Tim
PS: Yes I did search the forum. You can't search for 'FM'; it is too short.
PPS: This all assumes the FM antenna pin from the broadcom chip is connected to the headphone socket. I can't see why they wouldn't do that though.
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A lot of people have tried but i dont think they have tried very hard lol. ive been looking into it but i dont have much time nor the expertise to mess with kernels lol.
The devs at google io said fm support will not come officially for the nexus but they said the communities best bet would be to grab the drivers from the incredible's kernel. the kernels for all htc android phones are all open source and are available here:
http://developer.htc.com/
Note: they also said its not guaranteed it will work lol

will donate to you if u can get fm working good luck!

get in touch with paul obrien from modaco.com, he should be able to get you desire rom dump, or antyhing you need.

I will donate big time aswell.
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Me too -- will donate

Have fun writing a driver for it.
Also, I'm pretty sure the current N1 OEM 2.1 kernel doesn't even have the possibility of supporting it, driver or not.
Edit: It may be the radio that doesn't support it. Or maybe both the kernel and the radio.
Either way... good luck.

The driver works?
It searches for FM channels and finds them, also plays it.
The sound just never makes it futher
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Skype video from Thunderbolt on Atrix (request)

Thunderbolt's version of Skype WITH VIDEO is now available.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/04/11/download-skype-with-video-on-android/
It won't directly install for some reason (some how locked to the Thunderbolt?)
Would be real nice on the Atrix. Wish I could help more, but I'm just a dummy.
Thank you all very much. I bow to all your great feats.

eatkabab said:
Thunderbolt's version of Skype WITH VIDEO is now available.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/04/11/download-skype-with-video-on-android/
It won't directly install for some reason (some how locked to the Thunderbolt?)
Would be real nice on the Atrix. Wish I could help more, but I'm just a dummy.
Thank you all very much. I bow to all your great feats.
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This is an app, not a development thread. It should go in the Themes and Apps section.

^ disagree its a request for some DEV help on getting this to work on atrix. i'd really like for this to work on the atrix. been dying for skype video since last year.

^^^ Requests belong in Q&A or General - not Development...

http://gititbit.ch/sKa1
here is a direct link to the apk

dasmoover said:
http://gititbit.ch/sKa1
here is a direct link to the apk
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cant install for some reason.
anyone else tried?

i couldnt get it to install either. Anyone pls explain how to get this to work

eatkabab said:
Thunderbolt's version of Skype WITH VIDEO is now available.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/04/11/download-skype-with-video-on-android/
It won't directly install for some reason (some how locked to the Thunderbolt?)
Would be real nice on the Atrix. Wish I could help more, but I'm just a dummy.
Thank you all very much. I bow to all your great feats.
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i took a quick look... it appears that it would not be an easy & quick fix / rebuild i dont think, the entire program is written to use and be depended on <uses-library android:name="com.htc.device" />... before taking on this project id wait out as skype said that att was suppose to get releases of its video call first so id think we cant be to far behind

For anyone interested, here is the deodexed apk decoded and built with apk-tool.
Note: This cannot be installed yet.
http://dev.gitbrew.org/~dasmoover/android/apk/dev/com.skypevideodeodex.apk

ekerbuddyeker said:
i couldnt get it to install either. Anyone pls explain how to get this to work
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it doesn't work because it was not made for this phone. even if it did install, it wouldn't work with our camera because moto uses its own camera driver since froyo doesn't have one (gingerbread will). htc uses its own FFC driver as well.

dLo GSR said:
it doesn't work because it was not made for this phone. even if it did install, it wouldn't work with our camera because moto uses its own camera driver since froyo doesn't have one (gingerbread will). htc uses its own FFC driver as well.
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So sounds like it works on all HTC phone?
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dLo GSR said:
it doesn't work because it was not made for this phone. even if it did install, it wouldn't work with our camera because moto uses its own camera driver since froyo doesn't have one (gingerbread will). htc uses its own FFC driver as well.
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?? so how does yahoo video chat, fring, and other video call apks work on several devices? obviously it wasnt made for the phone, thats why the thread was posted] to modify it and get it to work.

b15love said:
?? so how does yahoo video chat, fring, and other video call apks work on several devices? obviously it wasnt made for the phone, thats why the thread was posted] to modify it and get it to work.
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Because they contain drivers for all the phones they know of with FFCs I would bet.

Could it be that because att doesn't have 4g yet, Skype is holding out?
I apologize If I posted this in the wrong forum. It seemed logical for me to put it here...

zerocool79346 said:
Because they contain drivers for all the phones they know of with FFCs I would bet.
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Probably right. Here is Motorola's API:
http://developer.motorola.com/docstools/library/motorola-front-facing-camera-api/

It is so frustrating that using the same system (android) and also having a front camera but we cannot use the same app (skype with video).

yup but that was specifically develpoed for the thunderbolt, I assume if it does get officially launched with it, it will be a matter of time before that spreads to being on other devices (much like when they launched skype in the first place on android) the key question is will they fix the sound issues that moto's config gives these voip programs.

ytwytw said:
So sounds like it works on all HTC phone?
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I'm guessing no, but for reasons other than the camera driver.
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?? so how does yahoo video chat, fring, and other video call apks work on several devices? obviously it wasnt made for the phone, thats why the thread was posted] to modify it and get it to work.
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as I learned in the (otherwise useless) motorola atrix dev conference, the FFC driver for the atrix is written BY motorola. Android 2.2 does NOT have a standard FFC driver and so every phone that has an FFC and is running 2.1 or 2.2 is using their own FFC driver. That is why Tango and Qik did not work for the Atrix immediately when it was released, and Qik had to release an Atrix-only version of the app.
When gingerbread comes across all devices, it will have a standard FFC driver. But until then, every company running 2.2 uses their own and that is why these aren't compatible apps.

eatkabab said:
Could it be that because att doesn't have 4g yet, Skype is holding out?
I apologize If I posted this in the wrong forum. It seemed logical for me to put it here...
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More than likely, it's because AT&T didn't want Skype to release it yet.. the carriers have a surprising amount of influence on app developers. Think of how the Inspire and Atrix still don't have HSUPA enabled whereas the iPhone 4 has had it since its release. My guess is they don't want to overload their already fragile network

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More than likely, it's because AT&T didn't want Skype to release it yet.. the carriers have a surprising amount of influence on app developers. Think of how the Inspire and Atrix still don't have HSUPA enabled whereas the iPhone 4 has had it since its release. My guess is they don't want to overload their already fragile network
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I know and people like me who have a bell atrix thats not even on bell have to suffer.
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Can NS use FM radio

fm is available on new miui

at0m007 said:
fm is available on new miui
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If its on the MIUI roms we could also have the chance to get it I think. Its just a app and a few data things... I hope someone could port it to the unrooted NS.

I thought there was a hardware issue which meant that it can't be done

which miui? post a link. details please? how did they overcome the hardware issues (power, antena, etc.)

at0m007 said:
fm is available on new miui
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This is impossible unless you add some hardware **** to your nexus.
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Unofficial port? It may have the FM app on it, I doubt it will work -- lack of hardware support.

[email protected] said:
I doubt it will work -- lack of hardware support.
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I'm afraid so, it will not work.

Nexus 4 and Android 4.2.2 - still no MP3-tags

For all ppl who are also annoyed by missing MP3-tags over bluetooth.
Please star following issue on code.google.com:
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...id&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
Thanks!

AOSP doesn't support AVRCP 1.13 which is the version that introduced metadata support. Until it does, custom ROMs the devs have added it to are the only one's that'll display song/album/artist.
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP)
This profile is designed to provide a standard interface to control TVs, Hi-fi equipment, etc. to allow a single remote control (or other device) to control all of the A/V equipment to which a user has access. It may be used in concert with A2DP or VDP.
It has the possibility for vendor-dependent extensions.
AVRCP has several versions with significantly increasing functionality:
1.0—Basic remote control commands (play/pause/stop, etc.)
1.3—all of 1.0 plus metadata and media-player state support The status of the music source (playing, stopped, etc.)
Metadata information on the track itself (artist, track name, etc.).
1.4—all of 1.0, 1.3, plus media browsing capabilities for multiple media players Browsing and manipulation of multiple players
Browsing of media metadata per media player, including a "Now Playing" list
Basic search capabilities​http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile
https://www.bluetooth.org/Building/HowTechnologyWorks/ProfilesAndProtocols/AVRCP.htm

As far as I know, no n4 custom rom supports it until today. Google will most likely never update it, don't know what the heck they are thinking.

it's such an elementary feature. Can't believe it's not integrated....This really makes me mad.

Lownita said:
As far as I know, no n4 custom rom supports it until today. Google will most likely never update it, don't know what the heck they are thinking.
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What do you mean no custom ROM supports it?
I was waiting for someone to confirm if AVRCP 1.3 was going to be added in android 4.2.2 but now I'm planning on rooting and getting a ROM that does support this...

This is my most wanted bug fix for android 4.2.2, and I can't believe they missed it. Shame on Google.

jc monkeyballs said:
This is my most wanted bug fix for android 4.2.2, and I can't believe they missed it. Shame on Google.
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I completely agree
Does anyone know of a stable mod that does have AVRCP 1.3?

I'm glad that I am not the only one^^
Please share this bug report as often as possible in other forums. Maybe if enough ppl will star this google will react - MAYBE^^

main reason
This was the main reason I was looking forward to the update...now, I'm sad. Guess I'm going to be forced to root now...anyone know when any of the ROMs will add this much needed feature?

alternetconcept said:
What do you mean no custom ROM supports it?
I was waiting for someone to confirm if AVRCP 1.3 was going to be added in android 4.2.2 but now I'm planning on rooting and getting a ROM that does support this...
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There is no rom that supports it! If you find one, let me know

sarasotaguy said:
This was the main reason I was looking forward to the update...now, I'm sad. Guess I'm going to be forced to root now...anyone know when any of the ROMs will add this much needed feature?
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That's all I was looking forward to also.

Its no wonder companies ignore their users when they needlessly and wrongly report bugs for something which is clearly not a bug.
If I was Google I'd ignore every single bug report which was actually reporting a missing feature.
For whatever reason, Google left it out, probably because its a niche requirement. It's not a bug.

thank god ur not google
maybe it's not the right category but at least I did something to point out that there's a problem and gave other ppl the chance to express their madness about this problem aswell.
And a niche? C'mon this is absolute standard nowadays and we can expect this from a 2012 smartphone when even my 2010 i9000 had it!

Lownita said:
There is no rom that supports it! If you find one, let me know
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cm10 has it.

AnonymousPenguin said:
cm10 has it.
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Is it possible for anyone to confirm this?
I was about to root when looking at CM but thought they didn't have it?

alternetconcept said:
Is it possible for anyone to confirm this?
I was about to root when looking at CM but thought they didn't have it?
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I dont have NEXUS but CM10 M2 for Galaxy S III has it. 100% working. keep in mind, its 4.1.2 though !
It is funny how google is missing this very important feature.

bump. Which ROM has it?
Bump Anyone know if any of the custom ROMs for Nexus are putting this feature in? I've search...but didn't see a mention. Please link. Thanks!

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Bump Anyone know if any of the custom ROMs for Nexus are putting this feature in? I've search...but didn't see a mention. Please link. Thanks!
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Same here, don't understand it

i can confirm it works in cm 10. i use it on my car all the time. the cover art doesnt work but the tags work perfect.

Which ROM?
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