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Nexus 4 has LTE chip?

According to iFixit, the Nexus 4 has a Qualcomm WTR1605L seven-band 4G LTE chip!
what!?!?!
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/2
Band 4 LTE confirmed!!!

James.UBC said:
According to iFixit, the Nexus 4 has a Qualcomm WTR1605L seven-band 4G LTE chip!
what!?!?!
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/2
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yup! google just didn't tell us!

I bet you it would be activated when T-Mobile gets lte

stormtroopercs said:
yup! google just didn't tell us!
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does this mean 4g can/will be enabled later?!
wtf!
*waits for LTE enabled rom*

heat361 said:
I bet you it would be activated when T-Mobile gets lte
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I hope

I'm sure its just built in to the CPU.
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James.UBC said:
does this mean 4g can/will be enabled later?!
wtf!
*waits for LTE enabled rom*
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highly doubt!

DroidDavi said:
I'm sure its just built in to the CPU.
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Nope! Completely separate IC!!
stormtroopercs said:
highly doubt!
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one can dream

i read that a chip maker was going to implement LTE radio into one chip. also, tmobile's LTE deployment will be a newer version than what verizon has, so ive read. i think it makes use of some sort of all-in-one chip. not too sure on that...

i remember reading somewhere that the Verizon's HTC DNA worked with T-Mobile. i think this might confirm the S4 pro's built in LTE may be.

0.0 said:
i read that a chip maker was going to implement LTE radio into one chip. also, tmobile's LTE deployment will be a newer version than what verizon has, so ive read. i think it makes use of some sort of all-in-one chip. not too sure on that...
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Yup! Tegra/Qualcomm/Intel are all working on it!

So, my main question is. How will we be able to use the chip if at all? Also why would Google have the chip in there and not use it?

He's right. It says it has Qualcomm LET chip. Maybe the newer Qualcomm processors have the radio implemented. Let's keep our fingers crossed
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And also has a ANX7808 SlimPort® transmitter?
And also has a ANX7808 SlimPort® transmitter (HDMI output converter) ?
The ANX7808 is an ultra low power SlimPort® transmitter designed for portable devices such as Tablets, Smartphones, Media players, Camcorders, and Digital Still Cameras. As a member of the SlimPort family of products the ANX7808 works in conjunction with SlimPort receivers, such as the ANX7730 and ANX9832. The ANX7808 transforms the HDMI output of the mobile device’s application processor to SlimPort. External adapters can then convert SlimPort to VGA, DisplayPort, or back to HDMI so that the device can connect to any high definition TV, monitor or projector. The same connector on the device can be used for USB when a SlimPort receiver is not connected.
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what that mean?

James.UBC said:
Yup! Tegra/Qualcomm/Intel are all working on it!
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if this really is a LTE chip that can work, google just future proofed their phone, without telling people. i bet if they were to announce it, there would be a huge fuss by the carriers, and google would be in a bad position

Future support for lte looks probable then.
But only if carriers across the world can sort out the damn mess that's become of lte

pack21 said:
And also has a ANX7808 SlimPort® transmitter (HDMI output converter) ?
what that mean?
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imagine mhl but also supporting vga, dvi, displayport etc.

I can't figure out why they would put the chip on there and not list it as a feature. It would nullify one complaint by most reviewers and make the phone even more desirable.

however, this LTE chip needs to work with the carrier's bands, looking at AT&T and T-Mobile here, since the N4 is a GSM phone. hopefully LTE will work in the N4

What! Does this mean it might be possible to use in the future on carriers like Verizon? I sure hope so
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New to the Nexus 4

I'm new to the Nexus 4. I'm coming from the ATT LG Optimus G which I know is pretty much the same phone. But just wasn't for me. I couldn't get LTE at all with that phone no matter what I did. Apn's, build.prop, radio's, hidden menus, nothing gave me LTE. Development was a little lacky since only a few roms are active. A friend of mine told me to just get a Nexus 4, root it, unlock the bootloader, flash a good rom, flash a .33 radio, change the icon on the to get the 4G LTE and you will get LTE since it has AWS. I had an horrible experience converting the LGOG to Nexus 4. I had so much freaking bugs here and there and lost 50 percent performance of the phone. It was a nightmare.
One downside I did notice about the Nexus 4 that both LGOG and Nexus 4 share the same sizescreen,but the Nexus 4 has on screen soft keys and LGOG has dedicated soft buttons which makes the LGOG a plus one on the screen side since it has more room and the screen looks bigger for some apparent reason.
So what do you think guys? Did I make the right choice? I think I did

I think you did.
Why does it matter?
Enjoy the endless options of optimization that the n4 offers you!

To me, yes. For me it's nexus > everything else.
If you wanna take back the soft key part, flash PA and use PIE.

I sold the nexus 4 last night and I bought myself a HTC one.. .... Jk yeah right I fell in love with this phone after unlocking/rooting/flashed my first ROM last night and there are endless ROMs I don't know what to do. Its like a buffet
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I had pie on my lgog using vanilla aokp root box rom and I kept thinking what was pie for since it was utterly useless feature for the lgog. Now it make sense that its meant for the nexus 4.
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Z33type said:
I'm new to the Nexus 4. I'm coming from the ATT LG Optimus G which I know is pretty much the same phone. But just wasn't for me. I couldn't get LTE at all with that phone no matter what I did. Apn's, build.prop, radio's, hidden menus, nothing gave me LTE. Development was a little lacky since only a few roms are active. A friend of mine told me to just get a Nexus 4, root it, unlock the bootloader, flash a good rom, flash a .33 radio, change the icon on the to get the 4G LTE and you will get LTE since it has AWS. I had an horrible experience converting the LGOG to Nexus 4. I had so much freaking bugs here and there and lost 50 percent performance of the phone. It was a nightmare.
One downside I did notice about the Nexus 4 that both LGOG and Nexus 4 share the same sizescreen,but the Nexus 4 has on screen soft keys and LGOG has dedicated soft buttons which makes the LGOG a plus one on the screen side since it has more room and the screen looks bigger for some apparent reason.
So what do you think guys? Did I make the right choice? I think I did
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does tmobile have lte up in your area? if it doesnt, there nothing you can do thatll give you lte.

I don't believe the nexus 4 has a lte chip in it anyways. So even if T-Mobile had lte don't think it picks it up due to the fact the phone has to have a lte chip to connect. I'm pretty sure Google didn't put one in ....unless its there jus not activated. But I don't think so.
Lockrings//Softkeys//GlowDots...and much more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40240608

In terms of LTE support on ATT, you might you might not get it depending on the coverage area band/s ATT LTE runs in your area. N4 only has AWS 4 band LTE, so if ATT doesn't have that in your area, you can switch to Tmo which does support AWS 4. Check out the ALL LTE & Tmo threads to find out more.

matthew0776 said:
I don't believe the nexus 4 has a lte chip in it anyways. So even if T-Mobile had lte don't think it picks it up due to the fact the phone has to have a lte chip to connect. I'm pretty sure Google didn't put one in ....unless its there jus not activated. But I don't think so.
Lockrings//Softkeys//GlowDots...and much more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40240608
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tmobile lte on my nexus 4 in queens, ny. the n4 does have a lte chip, but its not officially there since the lte chip was never approved by the fcc. so google disabled lte in the latest radio. but, with an older radio, you can use lte.
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Be sure to reflash the entire stock ROM via fast boot alone (then flash whatever ROM you want). I got an extra 1.5 hours screen on time doing that. No idea why...just a suggestion if you're struggling to get 3 hours screen on time daily (like I was). I now average 4 hours screen on time daily.

I keep going back and forth whether to buy it or not. I have an HTC amaze with cm 10.1 on it. It reboots itself sometimes. But it has a micro SD which doesn't have anything on it. All my apps videos and pictures saved to internal with about 2 GB left I think.
Nexus 4 has lte. Not sure if I get it or just wait out the amaze which battery dies in 5 hours and wait for nexus 5. Or get the nexus 4 and sell the amaze now

jj71787 said:
I keep going back and forth whether to buy it or not. I have an HTC amaze with cm 10.1 on it. It reboots itself sometimes. But it has a micro SD which doesn't have anything on it. All my apps videos and pictures saved to internal with about 2 GB left I think.
Nexus 4 has lte. Not sure if I get it or just wait out the amaze which battery dies in 5 hours and wait for nexus 5. Or get the nexus 4 and sell the amaze now
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If you can wait....definitely wait it out. Operative word being....if.

simms22 said:
does tmobile have lte up in your area? if it doesnt, there nothing you can do thatll give you lte.
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I'm with T-Mobile,but Ive been always a fan on AT&T Phones since they always have better mid level phones than T-Mobile. I use to have the ATT Motorola Atrix HD unlocked. I slap my sim card on that and didn't even have to change any APN settings. Immediately picked up LTE. And to answer your question. Yes we have LTE in Phoenix, AZ.

ghostrid3r said:
In terms of LTE support on ATT, you might you might not get it depending on the coverage area band/s ATT LTE runs in your area. N4 only has AWS 4 band LTE, so if ATT doesn't have that in your area, you can switch to Tmo which does support AWS 4. Check out the ALL LTE & Tmo threads to find out more.
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I've been on that thread. I was directed to that thread on the ATT LGOG section. We have LTE in Phoenix,AZ. I should have stated that the phone was unlocked for any sim and me being a T-Mobile customer and all.
Either way for now T-Mobile is kicking ATT's butt in LTE coverage and speeds,but I also heard that ATT are investing over a billion not millions,but billions of dollars into towers and boosting up their LTE speeds.
Not that LTE really matters,but just a nice feature to have and LGOG was not supporting T-Mobile LTE's bands.
Here is a screenshot of my LTE on my Nexus. " Note that the 4G is really LTE on the Nexus 4" I changed the icon and used the LTE settings from the market. Shows that I have LTE on the network type.

Z33type said:
I'm with T-Mobile,but Ive been always a fan on AT&T Phones since they always have better mid level phones than T-Mobile. I use to have the ATT Motorola Atrix HD unlocked. I slap my sim card on that and didn't even have to change any APN settings. Immediately picked up LTE. And to answer your question. Yes we have LTE in Phoenix, AZ.
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on the nexus 4 you have to change the apn. it doesnt come with default lte apn settings.

jj71787 said:
I keep going back and forth whether to buy it or not. I have an HTC amaze with cm 10.1 on it. It reboots itself sometimes. But it has a micro SD which doesn't have anything on it. All my apps videos and pictures saved to internal with about 2 GB left I think.
Nexus 4 has lte. Not sure if I get it or just wait out the amaze which battery dies in 5 hours and wait for nexus 5. Or get the nexus 4 and sell the amaze now
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Sell the Amaze and get the Nexus 4 and call it a day. Nexus 4 are cheap if you score one on Craigslist. I bought mine for 250 dollars semi new 16gb unlocked already from Craigslist. Seller bought it from Google Play store and she didn't like it. She was a apple fan girl. Only sad part that is I had to drive 20 miles to pick it up. WORTH IT!

simms22 said:
on the nexus 4 you have to change the apn. it doesnt come with default lte apn settings.
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Whatever APN settings I put on my LGOG was backed up by google and transfered to my Nexus when I logged on to my google account.
fast.t-mobile.com and all other proxy, ipv's mmsc. has been transfered over.

Z33type said:
Whatever APN settings I put on my LGOG was backed up by google and transfered to my Nexus when I logged on to my google account.
fast.t-mobile.com and all other proxy, ipv's mmsc. has been transfered over.
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oh cool. then you need either the .33 radio or .27. also, theres a build.prop edit you need and an edit for sound during calls(ill link a flashable), and you need to change the phone/radio to lte/gsm.
flash this, it should take care of the build.peop edit and in call sound https://www.box.com/s/h16b3wlrq8op6us7ifsv

Beat you to it already with the .33 radio as you can see on the previous posts that I posted a screenshot of my lte. But the in call sound I shall do but so far I am not experiencing any bugs with the in calls on the .33 radio.
.27 radio doesn't lock so well on the GPS as the .33 does. Wish the .48 had lte and also wish that developers can play with radios but its illegal to even hack radios to begin with.
Now my next issue is. I remember seeing a site or thread somewhere on how to make lte stick even on after booting. I keep having keep changing the prefer network as it sticks to wcdma every boot.
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Reading your first post, I thought u were gonna somehow flash Optimus G firmware onto the Nexus 4 to get LTE under ATT.
I'm glad you got it working under T-Mobile LTE.

[Q] Does the One suffer same LTE issues as Evo LTE?

Hey guys. I have an Evo LTE right now and thinking of switching to either the One or the S4 only because of the Evo's "LTE" connectivity issues (sometimes have to cycle airplane mode to get 4G in areas which other phones do not have this issue).
Does the One suffer the same fate? This is pretty much the only make it or break it deal. I like to Tether and I travel a lot. The annoyance if cycling airplane mode or even switching to LTE only in ##DATA# does not appease to me when other phones don't have this issue.
Thank you

Yes the HTC one has the same issues with lte as the evo lte. However what I do is I download lte toggle and switch the preferred mode to lte/cdma and it holds the lte signal perfectly fine. I would stick with the HTC one if I were you.
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justinswidebody said:
Yes the HTC one has the same issues with lte as the evo lte. However what I do is I download lte toggle and switch the preferred mode to lte/cdma and it holds the lte signal perfectly fine. I would stick with the HTC one if I were you.
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Thank you for the information. In this case honestly I may just keep the phone I have now. Is there a specific "lte toggle" program on the market which works best? I see a few...

I have zero problems connecting to 4G LTE on my One or my Evo LTE

bigdaddy619 said:
I have zero problems connecting to 4G LTE on my One or my Evo LTE
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I mean, technically I don't have a problem connecting to LTE if I wanted to. For instance, the issue lies when driving around.
If you're in an area where there are some 3G spots and some 4G spots and you're constantly switching towers because your driving, sometimes the LTE Evo wont switch back to 4G. It almost feels as if it's preferring 3G over the 4G. However, once you airplane mode cycle it, it will stay on 4G with no problem.
This situation probably doesn't pertain to someone who is stationary in an area with 4G.

I use lte on off for the HTC thunderbolt. I know with the evo lte if you toggled to lte only it would still go to 3g sometimes. This one doesn't. It's sticks on lte. My brother has an iPhone 5 and it holds lte signal with no problem. I hear the Samsung's are the same. I was expecting the HTC one to be better at this however it isn't. It has to be something to do with how HTC programs the phone on switching to the strongest signal available.
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I mean, technically I don't have a problem connecting to LTE if I wanted to. For instance, the issue lies when driving around.
If you're in an area where there are some 3G spots and some 4G spots and you're constantly switching towers because your driving, sometimes the LTE Evo wont switch back to 4G. It almost feels as if it's preferring 3G over the 4G. However, once you airplane mode cycle it, it will stay on 4G with no problem.
This situation probably doesn't pertain to someone who is stationary in an area with 4G.
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Have not noticed any transition problems I have never had to use airplane mode so IDK

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It has some kind of problem I get full lte signal but it barely holds it some times my note 2 had no problems it got it and held it no issue the htc one it can get it but has issues keeping it
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My mom and sister have Samsung devices. They do hold on to lte more, but it's not usable. I noticed if mine cuts out their speed is abysmal, so I don't really care.
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From my experience the HTC One drops LTE around -115dbm.. My wife's S3 and my Note II does not drop LTE until around -130dbm..Ive learned to live with it and run with CDMA only until my area gets more LTE coverage.
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Interesting...
While I do think there are multiple reasons behind HTC's LTE connectivity woes. Next time my phone is in a spot which has 4G and is only connected to 3G for whatever reason, I will cycle airplane mode, and if it goes into 4G, observe the signal strength.

Damn and I thought HTC would have fix this issue by now, and I was thinking on moving to the HTC One from my beat up old EVOLTE.

As someone who moved from an EVO LTE to an HTC One, LTE reception is about as poor. I'm tempted to say it is ever so marginally better but that just might be placebo from a snazzy new device. Theoretically, the One should be better but it isn't. Like the EVO LTE, it will give up LTE where other phones will hold on. Anybody who tells you otherwise is wrong.

Super Tommy said:
As someone who moved from an EVO LTE to an HTC One, LTE reception is about as poor. I'm tempted to say it is ever so marginally better but that just might be placebo from a snazzy new device. Theoretically, the One should be better but it isn't. Like the EVO LTE, it will give up LTE where other phones will hold on. Anybody who tells you otherwise is wrong.
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Different people have different observations. They're not wrong, but the circumstances that they're in are different. Your sample size of one is not enough to conclusively state that this phone is as bad as the EVO LTE. In fact, people at S4GRU are of a very different opinion.

Sorry but the fact is the HTC One has the same LTE capabilities as the HTC EVO 4g LTE. I ran multiple test with the Galaxy S 3 , Note 2 , HTC One and the Evo LTE as well as the I-Phone five compared to the GS3 on a different occasion. The results I always got through many test with signal strength, variations and speeds were always the same results which were that the HTC One and the Evo 4g LTE were always very close to the same as we're the two Samsung phones the Note 2 and the GS3. Then when comparing either Samsung phone with either HTC the Samsung phones were always considerably better with signal strength holding a signal and speed. As an HTC fan I am very disappointed by them and was expecting the HTC One to be much better due to it having higher RF capabilities the the Evo LTE. Building a metal phone and getting the antennas right is no easy feat apparently and HTC has more work to do with there design here. The I-Phone 5 is better than the HTC phones but still got out performed by the plastic Samsung phone every time. I would never by an Apple product but they do a little better with reception even when compared to the Evo which both have plastic areas for the antenna. I hope they HTC can get it right but they really could not afford to Bork this one and it is beyond me as to why they could not do better knowing what was on the line with the HTC One. If it was not for this issue I would have bought the phone instead of a Note 2.
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I don't know about the Evo, but I can say that the One refuses to acquire or hold on to 4G in many areas where the S4 has no problem, at least in my region.

Well, I just bit the bullet and purchased a One, and should be arriving sometime this week. I hope I made a good decision to upgrade from my EVO LTE. I figure the phone can't be any worse. Many reviewers give it such a positive rating, and even prefer it over the S4.
Comparing my OG Evo with the Evo LTE's radio strength, my OG Evo was better. This was not a placebo effect as I had different results sending text messages at my old job (heavily indoors). My OG Evo would send a text with little to no problem where my Evo LTE would have a very hard time.
After skimming some forums, I'm hoping to be optimistic about a couple of things if someone with experience would chime in.
1) Does the HTC One have better reception than the Evo LTE? Some people say it's a possibility
2) Androidaholic or someone else that has been able to test. Does the HTC One have better LTE speeds? After skimming some forums, I read this is possible as well.

kwolf said:
I don't know about the Evo, but I can say that the One refuses to acquire or hold on to 4G in many areas where the S4 has no problem, at least in my region.
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Is your area "officially lit up" by LTE yet?
Mine is not (NYC area) which is a possibility of where the LTE issues stem from. I did notice when LTE ended up dropping out, I was not able to access the internet beforehand through a web browser. At the same time I would also retry connecting to LTE in "LTE Only" mode, and would have no luck.
Could also be because of how many towers there are, NYC probably having one of the highest tower population in the country. If some towers have LTE and some do not, I could see the phone getting heavily confused. Maybe once more LTE towers light up and it goes official, there would be less problems. Sounds like a good theory, and this statement would probably hold true for many towns with a vast tower density.

yes (kingsport, tenn)
even if it wasn't it does not explain the One being consistently outperformed by the S4 in the same areas in terms of picking up LTE.

I feel like the technology is there for the HTC One just as it was in the Evo LTE for 4G, this is just a matter of the device picking the 3G connection over the 4G due to the radio threshold for HTC being set higher than Samsung in their Galaxy series for instance. Now as to why they set the bar so high for the phone to connect to a 4G tower I have no idea, but side by side comparison would lead one to believe reception is better in other devices for 4G which isn't necessarily true. Keep in mind a phone is a voice device as well as a data device so it is understandably looking for the, and here's the key word, strongest signal. While 4G may be faster, typically, this does not mean its always the most reliable connection. If there is a way to alter that threshold then you would experience much more frequently the 4G indicator in the status bar.
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Sprint enabling Spark on LG G2 via OTA starting today! When is ours going to be?!?!?

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-lg-g2-ota-enables-spark-status-bar-icon

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we can enable it on are own rite? thought i seen a thread on how to enable it

P.Mobile said:
we can enable it on are own rite? thought i seen a thread on how to enable it
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Yeah, I know and I have them enabled and I am in NYC which is Spark enabled but I don't get no stinking Spark on my N5... I have read many other people in Spark enabled areas standing next to a Spark tower that cannot connect to the other two bands even though they have enabled all the bands on their N5. I think there is an APN setting or something that we must get via some type of update for us to take advantage of the Spark towers.

Here ya go Raistlin.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530061
I just have to get my MSL number from Sprint and I am good to go for NYC Spark.

CDKJudoka said:
Here ya go Raistlin.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530061
I just have to get my MSL number from Sprint and I am good to go for NYC Spark.
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I have had those bands enabled since I got the N5 by using that thread, but I still don't get Spark. I am pretty sure that we are going to need an actual update in order to connect to the Spark towers even though we have enabled all the bands on our N5s.

It varies. Even if you have the bands enabled, it doesn't guarantee that you'll connect to Spark. I was lucky to connect to Spark and got around 60 - 70 Mbps.
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UndeadNexus said:
It varies. Even if you have the bands enabled, it doesn't guarantee that you'll connect to Spark. I was lucky to connect to Spark and got around 60 - 70 Mbps.
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Yeah I have read very mixed results with this, some people swear they have connected and then some people say they are standing next to a Spark tower with all bands enabled but their N5 does not connect to Spark.
I just know that I have all my bands enabled and in various placed throught NYC I never connect to those bands. I am just hoping that there really is some update that will solve this for people who cannot connect.

Spark will not work on the N5 by simply enabling those bands. I have mine enabled and no spark and my desk sets next to a window dead in a perfect Spark area.
I researched more and found that there are new APN's and a new radio and updated APK that allows the phone to use the multiple bands for data.
We are about a week or so away from getting the update. LG finally sorted out their issues with Spark and dumped it on the G2. Right now google has it and they are working it into the rom and testing. I've been told one to two weeks if any issues occur with testing.

I've been working in the sticks and been getting 3g and today it all LTE . my buddy's HTC one is still on 3g
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reddragon72 said:
Spark will not work on the N5 by simply enabling those bands. I have mine enabled and no spark and my desk sets next to a window dead in a perfect Spark area.
I researched more and found that there are new APN's and a new radio and updated APK that allows the phone to use the multiple bands for data.
We are about a week or so away from getting the update. LG finally sorted out their issues with Spark and dumped it on the G2. Right now google has it and they are working it into the rom and testing. I've been told one to two weeks if any issues occur with testing.
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I agree that we need an update, that is why I posted this thread about Sprint pushing the Spark update to the G2. I pray that you are correct and that we will see an update for Spark soon, since I work in NYC I would benefit from this.

Will Sprint push an update for Nexus I was under the impression that only updates through Google will fall through. I mean isn't this the reason why us T-Mobile users are sh out of luck when it comes to WiFi calling?
This is speculation and not fact. Would love for Sprint users to benefit especially since their 3G sucks
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PS what is spark exactly is it like LTE just better? Is it exclusive to only Sprint or would other carriers likely be adapting to superior data?
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md1008 said:
Will Sprint push an update for Nexus I was under the impression that only updates through Google will fall through. I mean isn't this the reason why us T-Mobile users are sh out of luck when it comes to WiFi calling?
This is speculation and not fact. Would love for Sprint users to benefit especially since their 3G sucks
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PS what is spark exactly is it like LTE just better? Is it exclusive to only Sprint or would other carriers likely be adapting to superior data?
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Spark is simply a term Sprint drummed up for their Tri-Band LTE. Currently LTE is only on one band so when they are all enabled you are supposed to get LTE speeds upwards of 50Mbps or more.

md1008 said:
[/COLOR]PS what is spark exactly is it like LTE just better? Is it exclusive to only Sprint or would other carriers likely be adapting to superior data?
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Spark is Band 41 TDD-LTE which Sprint has been deploying for the better part of the last year over the existing Clearwire Wimax network. Band 41 TDD-LTE uses 20mhz TDD carriers in a 3:2 configuration which is slightly superior to a 10x10 FDD-LTE configuration on the downlink side and slightly weaker on the uplink. Theoretical max is ~90/25 but Sprint advertises 50-60 and provisions their sites for that speed.
Current Sprint LTE is on FDD-LTE 1900 PCS G block using a 5x5mhz configurations with theoretical max of 37.5/12 DL-UL. The other is FDD-LTE on eSMR 800 mhz which is either 3x3 mhz in areas with spectrum squatters or public safety rebanding or 5x5 mhz in areas with no spectrum squatters and public safety cleared.
LTE 800 gives the coverage aspect while Band 41 TDD-LTE is "Spark".
LTE 800/1900 =/= Spark
TDD-LTE 2500 = Spark

I got some Band 41 on my Nexus 5 today in downtown Fort Worth
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/4...o-demo-its-25ghz-network-technology/?p=274671

afazel said:
I got some Band 41 on my Nexus 5 today in downtown Fort Worth
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/4...o-demo-its-25ghz-network-technology/?p=274671
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Wow!! That is almost as good as my home FiOS service. I can't wait for it to work where I am in Manhattan.

reddragon72 said:
Spark will not work on the N5 by simply enabling those bands. I have mine enabled and no spark and my desk sets next to a window dead in a perfect Spark area.
I researched more and found that there are new APN's and a new radio and updated APK that allows the phone to use the multiple bands for data.
We are about a week or so away from getting the update. LG finally sorted out their issues with Spark and dumped it on the G2. Right now google has it and they are working it into the rom and testing. I've been told one to two weeks if any issues occur with testing.
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How does one know there in a "spark area"?
edit: i see Sprint updated their maps...my job also says im in a TURBO Spark area (LOL) but im still connecting to band 25 (im currently set to prioritize on 41)... Will test this further...

CDKJudoka said:
Wow!! That is almost as good as my home FiOS service. I can't wait for it to work where I am in Manhattan.
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I am in Midtown and unfortunately my office is in an LTE deadzone, but if I go outside and over half a block in either direction I can get decent speeds around 10Mbps. LTE is not consistent in Midtown, but to be fair no other companies LTE is consistent in Midtown either.

Raistlin1 said:
I am in Midtown and unfortunately my office is in an LTE deadzone, but if I go outside and over half a block in either direction I can get decent speeds around 10Mbps. LTE is not consistent in Midtown, but to be fair no other companies LTE is consistent in Midtown either.
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Yep, I am on 42nd and Lex and i get about 4mbps down in my office. Right outside I get about 10. Spark would be nice though.

CDKJudoka said:
Yep, I am on 42nd and Lex and i get about 4mbps down in my office. Right outside I get about 10. Spark would be nice though.
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52nd and Lex for me and my LTE doesn't really work at my desk. It shows I am connect to LTE but when I run a speedtest or try and load say FB, it says no connection. I have to switch it over to 3G and then my data starts workiing again, its kinda annoying actually.

reddragon72 said:
Spark will not work on the N5 by simply enabling those bands. I have mine enabled and no spark and my desk sets next to a window dead in a perfect Spark area.
I researched more and found that there are new APN's and a new radio and updated APK that allows the phone to use the multiple bands for data.
We are about a week or so away from getting the update. LG finally sorted out their issues with Spark and dumped it on the G2. Right now google has it and they are working it into the rom and testing. I've been told one to two weeks if any issues occur with testing.
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awesome. been waiting for the update to hit my nexus 5. i live in houston and hoping to have better lte coverage. looks like we're close to the 2 week period. maybe we'll get the update at the end of this week?

AT&T reports my Nexus 5 as "LG 821"

I thought this was kind of interesting...
I bought my Nexus 5 from Tmobile (north america), found out that I have very little (read: zero) coverage between my home and work, so I had to cancel. I went ahead and paid off the N5 and switched to AT&T.
Oddly enough, the myAT&T screen shows me as having a LG 821, which, I believe, is the international version!
I found that concerning as I thought Tmobile might have worked better for me if I had the correct phone... but my bootloader shows D820.
Anyone else have the same quark on their myAT&T page?
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Funny - never noticed this before either, but AT&T reports mine as the 821 also.
I have the 820 model.

mr_blanket said:
I thought this was kind of interesting...
I bought my Nexus 5 from Tmobile (north america), found out that I have very little (read: zero) coverage between my home and work, so I had to cancel. I went ahead and paid off the N5 and switched to AT&T.
Oddly enough, the myAT&T screen shows me as having a LG 821, which, I believe, is the international version!
I found that concerning as I thought Tmobile might have worked better for me if I had the correct phone... but my bootloader shows D820.
Anyone else have the same quark on their myAT&T page?
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My wife and I both have Nexus 5's on at&t. I bought her's from google and mine from tmobile. Ours both show 821 too, but they are 820's. If they were 821's, you would have no LTE. Im in atlanta with lte everywhere.

LG 821 too, bought it from the Google store. I can use the wap.cingular apn only. No LTE for me.

LG821 here as well. I have LTE using attphone APN. I had a Galaxy S4 (LTE) before it, just kept that plan so it all works. Have to have had a LTE capable phone before you get the N5 for it to work properly with your plan to access LTE>

WoodburyMan said:
LG821 here as well. I have LTE using attphone APN. I had a Galaxy S4 (LTE) before it, just kept that plan so it all works. Have to have had a LTE capable phone before you get the N5 for it to work properly with your plan to access LTE>
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Do any of you get throttled on AT&T with the Nexus 5? I have the Galaxy Nexus, but a cracked screen and now water damage is making me purchase a new phone, and I have yet to be throttled while regularly using over 5G/month.
Thanks!

You only get throttled (or more accurately, your usage is only metered in the throttling system) when using PHONE or PTA apn. Using a galaxy nexus without lte, you're most likely on wap.cingular (which you can do on a phone with no lte). Once their system detects you're imei and determines you have an lte capable device, you're blocked from using wap.cingular, and this your usage will be monitored (as you'll need to use phone or pta). I can trick the system by putting my sim in my old non lte GS2 (i9100), doing "restore apns" then sim swapping back to my nexus 5. THEN I can use wap.cingular, but unfortunately after a day or two they do an imei sweep and I get locked out again On the bright side tmo just announced they'll be eliminating edge and upgrading everything to lte by 2015 so I'm looking forward to dumping ATT very soon.
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schwin97 said:
Do any of you get throttled on AT&T with the Nexus 5? I have the Galaxy Nexus, but a cracked screen and now water damage is making me purchase a new phone, and I have yet to be throttled while regularly using over 5G/month.
Thanks!
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No throttle. On 6gb family share plan now. I can get over 50mbit/s in SpeedTest with full LTE signal. 95% of the time I'm on WiFi so to boot LTE speeds don't really matter. My data usage last month was a whole 500mb.

Not sure if the International has a different structure for the ESN/IMEI but its quite possible the 821 is what they have in their system as the Nexus 5. They do have traveling customers on the device but more likely prepaid customers. Interesting one indeed.

WoodburyMan said:
No throttle. On 6gb family share plan now. I can get over 50mbit/s in SpeedTest with full LTE signal. 95% of the time I'm on WiFi so to boot LTE speeds don't really matter. My data usage last month was a whole 500mb.
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He's asking about the UNLIMITED plan being throttled I'm sure, and yes it will after 5gb, unless you're on the wap.cingular apn as I described above.
I should mention that the Nexus 4 will NOT be blocked from wap.cingular as it does not have LTE, so if true unlimited data is that important maybe the Nexus 4 might be a better choice.
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ATT sent me a message saying I would be throttled at 3GB even though I have "unlimited data", and being throttled sucks, its awful.

mistahseller said:
ATT sent me a message saying I would be throttled at 3GB even though I have "unlimited data", and being throttled sucks, its awful.
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Should be 5gb on an LTE device. I'd call in with your imei to get put on an LTE unlimited plan if you're not already (hspa plans throttle after 3gb.). Note that you don't need to be on LTE or even have an LTE device, you just need any att compatible imei to give them so you're on the right plan.
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I got mine from Google, it's the unlocked version, and AT&T is also saying it's an LG 821.

How Do I Check The Model Number?
Hi,
Bought my phone from Google Play. How do I check the model number other then the boot loader?
I checked in 'About Phone', can't find it.
Edit. XDA really has to stop ads from playing with audio with while on the site, drives me nuts.

I tried to use the phone on PTA or Phone APN but it only accepts wap.cingular, because I switched from a 3G phone. The CS rep said my plan is not compatible with LTE, and nothing can be done. I am stuck with HSPA. Oh well, the plus side, I am not throttled.

WoodburyMan said:
LG821 here as well. I have LTE using attphone APN. I had a Galaxy S4 (LTE) before it, just kept that plan so it all works. Have to have had a LTE capable phone before you get the N5 for it to work properly with your plan to access LTE>
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This is not true. My wife has a T-Mobile N5 and I have a play store N5. Just started ATT service yesterday and we both have LTE. Also both devices show up as LG 821.

KedarWolf said:
Hi,
Bought my phone from Google Play. How do I check the model number other then the boot loader?
I checked in 'About Phone', can't find it.
Edit. XDA really has to stop ads from playing with audio with while on the site, drives me nuts.
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Did you try looking at the box?
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Jerryatric said:
This is not true. My wife has a T-Mobile N5 and I have a play store N5. Just started ATT service yesterday and we both have LTE. Also both devices show up as LG 821.
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This is true in some cases. It depends on the person that sets your phone up. Search. When they provision the phone, some AT&T workers, since the Nexus 5 is officially not in their provisioning software, have to select a generic template. If they are smart and do the right thing, you get set up with a LTE capable provisioning for your phone that works perfect. Some however don't know what they are doing and set the phone up with a plan that cannot access 3G for whatever reason. It completely depends on the person provisioning your phone. With phones that are in AT&T's system that might be unlocked but are in their system, such as Galaxy S4 Google Edition or something, it works no problem since the S4 is in their system. However with "oddball" phones like ours that AT&T doesn't officially support you run into issues as some workers may not know how to handle them.