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Anyone else getting atrocious Benchmarks on this device?
I will include some that I just did. Be interested to see other's results.
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Anyone else getting atrocious Benchmarks on this device?.
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I've seen at least two side by side comparisons between the Vivid and the Galaxy Skyrocket; and the Vivid definitely plays second fiddle to it, too.
roms play a big role in scores. htc roms are some of the most graphical. try on a less graphical rom like samsung is using and it will prolly be pretty close imo
Probably doesn't help that we're underclocked to 1.2 GHz stock. Once we have root and can overclock back up to 1.5 GHz+ results should be more respectible.
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Do people actually care about benchmarks?
My opinion is that they mean basically nothing. Having a great benchmark doesn't always mean great results in everyday use.
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In every day usage yea doesn't really matter considering I played with the Samsung Skyrocket at the store and the UI Stuttered and this one runs quite smooth. Yea I can't wait for the custom kernels so we can actual get the Real Speed out of this CPU considering if I recall the Samsung is the same exact chip just clocked up to 1.5ghz so my guess is we should actually probably be able to get this phone slightly faster than 1.5ghz considering it is underclocked unless samsung out of the box OC'd the chip which would mean lot's of returns. Either way can't wait to see some optimized Sense and Custom kernels and see what this thing can really do. I also keep forgetting our pixel resolution is quite a bit better which most likely is effecting part of the scoring.
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In every day usage yea doesn't really matter considering I played with the Samsung Skyrocket at the store and the UI Stuttered and this one runs quite smooth. Yea I can't wait for the custom kernels so we can actual get the Real Speed out of this CPU considering if I recall the Samsung is the same exact chip just clocked up to 1.5ghz so my guess is we should actually probably be able to get this phone slightly faster than 1.5ghz considering it is underclocked unless samsung out of the box OC'd the chip which would mean lot's of returns. Either way can't wait to see some optimized Sense and Custom kernels and see what this thing can really do. I also keep forgetting our pixel resolution is quite a bit better which most likely is effecting part of the scoring.
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Why the hell would a manufacturer OC a chip? These chips are designed to run at 1.5 ever since qualcomm showed these chips, HTC decided to underclock these to 1.2ghz because of may be battery reasons.
This phone leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to smoothness, my dad has an evo 3d and for some reason that rom seems to run much smoother than this phone, it seems like this rom is lacking in that department. I am sure it is software given they are using exact same hardware. The phone is smooth but not as smooth as the evo 3d. I would root this thing in a heartbeat when root is available.
nkd said:
This phone leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to smoothness, my dad has an evo 3d and for some reason that rom seems to run much smoother than this phone, it seems like this rom is lacking in that department. I am sure it is software given they are using exact same hardware. The phone is smooth but not as smooth as the evo 3d. I would root this thing in a heartbeat when root is available.
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I think you may have a bad unit... this phone is as smooth as any I have seen...
not a stutter to be found... AT ALL.
Benchmarks are for the most part useless. Proof attached from my old Captivate.
(Also, I forgot to screen cap it, but Nenamark 1 hit 63fps on this phone as well)
SOTP is all that matters.
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Benchmarks are for the most part useless. Proof attached from my old Captivate.
(Also, I forgot to screen cap it, but Nenamark 1 hit 63fps on this phone as well)
SOTP is all that matters.
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The wonders of OC and optimization eh.
How does the device actually feel? Felt pretty smooth when I briefly played with it. I wish people would put less weight in benchmarks.
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It is quite smooth actually. I have never actually noticed any slow downs at all as opposed to other people. Plus we more than likely once it is rooted will get the cpu OC past the actual Stock speed the processor is supposed to be so that should make things that much smoother. Granted at the expense of battery life but still if you UC when the screen is off you shouldn't feel it too badly unless you are Constantly on the phone in which case you would probably want to UC it when the screen is on too.
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I think you may have a bad unit... this phone is as smooth as any I have seen...
not a stutter to be found... AT ALL.
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no I dont have a bad unit. I never said it stutters, I just said that the rom doesn't feel as clean as it should be. I don't have any stutters what so ever, I just hate the scroll lag sometimes.
Engadget has the first update:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/12/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-android-4-2-final-update-adds-lock-screen-w/
Doesn't look like much has changed that much so far...
Anandtech's review:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/google-nexus-4-review
Battery still meh if you are a heavy user, and benchmarks still affected by thermal throttling...it's hard to get a proper gauge though because the devices that the N4 is compared to change from graph to graph...I wish there was a consistent comparison with the LG Optimus G
+ve about the build quality and apparently it has been dropped a few times without issues...so could be not bad depending on how it's dropped. Running stock android is also another +
Will update thread with more links as they are posted.
Performance is good enough omg. We want better battery life. But once I have Cm10.1 on my N4 I'll uc the cpu so I have better battery life.
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There were so many posts, that low benchmark scores where because of not final software....
they were all wrong
I bet camera photo and video is still **** @ 9mbps 22FPS
Raw hardware specs do not simply cease to 'exist' because software benchmarks show certain numbers.
We know the specs of the device, the hardware in it is more powerful than the majority of the phones out there, calling this OTA conclusive is still flawed.
Wait a while, or have fun joining in on the XDA arguing that I see as still pointless. The HTC One X forums taught me a lot about benchmarks...
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Raw hardware specs do not simply cease to 'exist' because software benchmarks show certain numbers.
We know the specs of the device, the hardware in it is more powerful than the majority of the phones out there, calling this OTA conclusive is still flawed.
Wait a while, or have fun joining in on the XDA arguing that I see as still pointless. The HTC One X forums taught me a lot about benchmarks...
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The problem we're having is with the battery life, not the benchmarks. It's been proven that the poorer benchmark results are due to the CPU overheating and throttling down - which in turn gives it poor battery life - 5 hours video playback vs 8 hours on the Optimus G.
That's why people are dying over the new benchmark results, to see if it still throttles down or not.
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Engadget has the first update:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/12/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-android-4-2-final-update-adds-lock-screen-w/
Doesn't look like much has changed that much so far...
Will update thread with more links as they are posted.
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Still sucks ...
I think I will hold my purchase till got clarification what's the true story about this under-performed S4 pro compare to LG G9.
My GNex is still more than capable anyway.
omersak said:
The problem we're having is with the battery life, not the benchmarks. It's been proven that the poorer benchmark results are due to the CPU overheating and throttling down - which in turn gives it poor battery life - 5 hours video playback vs 8 hours on the Optimus G.
That's why people are dying over the new benchmark results, to see if it still throttles down or not.
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Agreed. Call it early indicator if you will. If the benchmarks shows abnormal activities compared to sibling LG Optimus G than we have a problem. It also possible that Engadget's N4 has thermal problems like Anandtech but they didn't put in the fridge to proved thermal problems since both websites early benchmarks are equally crap compared to The Verge.
omersak said:
The problem we're having is with the battery life, not the benchmarks. It's been proven that the poorer benchmark results are due to the CPU overheating and throttling down - which in turn gives it poor battery life - 5 hours video playback vs 8 hours on the Optimus G.
That's why people are dying over the new benchmark results, to see if it still throttles down or not.
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I hear what you're saying, but no other phone runs 4.2 from Google does it? I'd wait till later this week when we have many rooted devices, custom ROMS/kernels and what not.
The software HTC shipped the One X running on was an unoptimized mess (which also had heat issues).
The people storming around shouting conclusive and saying the phone has hardware issues only serve to make people fearful at this stage where it is too early to be conclusive of any hardware issues. Software issues will be aplenty on a launch of new hardware.
Audioboxer said:
Raw hardware specs do not simply cease to 'exist' because software benchmarks show certain numbers.
We know the specs of the device, the hardware in it is more powerful than the majority of the phones out there, calling this OTA conclusive is still flawed.
Wait a while, or have fun joining in on the XDA arguing that I see as still pointless. The HTC One X forums taught me a lot about benchmarks...
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But there is a problem if the performance in benchmarks does not add up to what the 'specs' say.
It's like building two identical computers, put one in a different case...one running windows vista and say one running windows 8...
If the hardware is identical, the benchmarks should be VERY similar, if not there is something wrong with the build, hardware, drivers, software etc...and it is not working to it's potential.
This is quite alarming. Agreed with everyone that something is wrong. That's a huge difference: 4984 vs 7628. This might potentially make me wait to see if this some kind of bug. I mean in all seriousness, if I have the same hardware I would like it to perform the same. Google won't admit any wrong doing here either....that's good for ya. Let's hope they see the issue and try to find a fix.
Ugh. What a way to start my day....
new 3,4 kernel guys...give to google some times to fix that.
Well I just ordered one because I'm not really bothered by benchmarks. This is the first phone running on 4.2 and it's powerful enough as it is.
One thing I will point out is (from what I've seen) the N4 beats the Optimus G consistently in Geekbench 2 posting scores of over 2000. We need to ignore the browser benchmarks as chrome is not as well optimised as the old stock browser on Android.
We need to wait and see how the phone matures in time, I don't think there is a hardware issue here everyone is panicking over 2 phones that don't quite match each other...I know if my N4 goes wrong due to some unknown issue I know I can get a new one sent to me from Play so it's not really something that is going to bothering me.
Anyway, who buys their phone on benchmarks?! Are you benching it 24/7? No, so what's the need for you to see how a phone performs in tasks that you would never ever ask it to do in real world situations...
Came across this site:
lwn.net/Articles/524631/rss
(Guess I can't post direct links for now)
Can anyone explain what this CPU isolation actually means and how it translates to actual performance and benchmark scores?
iluk3 said:
Well I just ordered one because I'm not really bothered by benchmarks. This is the first phone running on 4.2 and it's powerful enough as it is.
One thing I will point out is (from what I've seen) the N4 beats the Optimus G consistently in Geekbench 2 posting scores of over 2000. We need to ignore the browser benchmarks as chrome is not as well optimised as the old stock browser on Android.
We need to wait and see how the phone matures in time, I don't think there is a hardware issue here everyone is panicking over 2 phones that don't quite match each other...I know if my N4 goes wrong due to some unknown issue I know I can get a new one sent to me from Play so it's not really something that is going to bothering me.
Anyway, who buys their phone on benchmarks?! Are you benching it 24/7? No, so what's the need for you to see how a phone performs in tasks that you would never ever ask it to do in real world situations...
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Not the benchmark score itself, but the "battery life" ... N4 is worse compared to LG OG, 5 hours video run-down vs 8 hours.
That's what worries me ...
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There were so many posts, that low benchmark scores where because of not final software....
they were all wrong
I bet camera photo and video is still **** @ 9mbps 22FPS
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And we are still not at final software. It will be multiple OTAs before we are at final software.
So, there's that.
I believe its a kernel problem. And also, why are you all comparing a jellybean ROM with a new kernel with an ICS one? That's not a really fair comparison in my eyes. That's just my opinion though
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gogol said:
Not the benchmark score itself, but the "battery life" ... N4 is worse compared to LG OG, 5 hours video run-down vs 8 hours.
That's what worries me ...
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ips vs amoled
people hate on amoled but I'll take the battery life..
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ips vs amoled
people hate on amoled but I'll take the battery life..
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Doesn't the Optimus G have same screen as N4?
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I believe its a kernel problem. And also, why are you all comparing a jellybean ROM with a new kernel with an ICS one? That's not a really fair comparison in my eyes. That's just my opinion though
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More of a fact than an opinion :good:
I thought Optimus G has a IPS screen. Same one in the N4
My buddy got a Droid DNA the other day. I immediately snatched it up to check it out. What a screen!
Anyway...ran a couple benchmarks and was AMAZED!
Quadrant = 8085
BenchmarkPi = ~280
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Our phone's guts are the same! My Nexus 4 is even overclocked and doesn't come CLOSE...
Just out of curiosity...how is it that my rooted, ROM'd, overclocked Nexus gets its teeth kicked in by a stock Droid DNA?
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My buddy got a Droid DNA the other day. I immediately snatched it up to check it out. What a screen!
Anyway...ran a couple benchmarks and was AMAZED!
Quadrant = 8085
BenchmarkPi = ~280
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Our phone's guts are the same! My Nexus 4 is even overclocked and doesn't come CLOSE...
Just out of curiosity...how is it that my rooted, ROM'd, overclocked Nexus gets its teeth kicked in by a stock Droid DNA?
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Does it really matter? I don't know about your n4 but mine has zero lag and handles every app and game I have thrown at it with ease. Benchmark scores mean nothing compared to actual use and performance. Dont worry about scores and enjoy your 4.2.2 phone.
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That was quick. Yes, I love my phone, yes it runs extremely well, yes benchmarks aren't perfect.
Now that we got that out of the way...
Wrong section, also the Droid DNA screen is incredibly saturated screen..way more then the N4 thats for sure.
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That was quick. Yes, I love my phone, yes it runs extremely well, yes benchmarks aren't perfect.
Now that we got that out of the way...
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I mean no disrespect, I just don't understand all the infatuation with benchmark scores. If a phone has zero lag and handles everything one could ask beautifully then why does it matter if it scores low?
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For god's sake, please stop using stupid Quadrant, makes no sense at all.
rmp5s said:
My buddy got a Droid DNA the other day. I immediately snatched it up to check it out. What a screen!
Anyway...ran a couple benchmarks and was AMAZED!
Quadrant = 8085
BenchmarkPi = ~280
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Our phone's guts are the same! My Nexus 4 is even overclocked and doesn't come CLOSE...
Just out of curiosity...how is it that my rooted, ROM'd, overclocked Nexus gets its teeth kicked in by a stock Droid DNA?
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quadrant runs bad on n4, no one seems to know why (prob 4.2.2 reason, 4.1.x seems ok). dunno about pi test.
try antutu, it's recently updated and not built for over year old chipsets. you will see your n4 runs fine
rmp5s said:
My buddy got a Droid DNA the other day. I immediately snatched it up to check it out. What a screen!
Anyway...ran a couple benchmarks and was AMAZED!
Quadrant = 8085
BenchmarkPi = ~280
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Our phone's guts are the same! My Nexus 4 is even overclocked and doesn't come CLOSE...
Just out of curiosity...how is it that my rooted, ROM'd, overclocked Nexus gets its teeth kicked in by a stock Droid DNA?
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quadrant hasnt been updated for years. using quadrant is like using a car from 60's and complaining the heater doesn't heat fast. use antutu and see what you get on both phones.
Exodian said:
I mean no disrespect, I just don't understand all the infatuation with benchmark scores.
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You don't need to understand; OP wasn't directing his post at anyone in particular. Just like MPG, 0-30/60/1/4 mile times, HP, and torque ratings in car reviews help people compare different car models, benchmarks in mobile devices help people make similar comparisons. That's why noted review sites like GSMArena and Anandtech devote 1/3 of their 10+ page reviews to performance benchmarking. I totally agree that if a device's performance meets someone's needs that’s more important than benchmarks. But I also feel performance benchmarks, just like audio, display brightness/contrast, and camera tests serve a legitimate purpose. I've found people that don't like benchmarks are usually device owners on the wrong side of them. Clearly HTC did a better job of optimizing their s/w for S4 Pro than either Google or LG did which, to OP's point, is why the DNA benchmarks so much better. In another thread someone said individual user s/w influences benchmarks. Most of them are low-level tests or use emulators (Sunspider) so what's running (or not) on the device won't influence the result. It is what it is.
Here are some comments from Anandtech talking about the Optimus G's less than steller benchmark performance. It's not due to S4 Pro but it doesn't really matter because the net result is what people experience using the device. Great performance which benchmarks measure takes a combination of s/w and h/w as shown by the DNA comparison OP's made.
Sunspider is lightly threaded and thus doesn't see huge scaling going to four cores. In fact, in this case we're not seeing any real improvement over the dual-core Krait based devices from HTC. It's unclear how much of the Optimus G's performance is due to LG's browser/software stack vs. the underlying hardware.
BrowserMark doesn't look great and the Optimus G's performance is almost certainly due to LG's own browser code. Qualcomm's reference software stack can provide great performance, but it's up to the individual OEM to take advantage of it.
ooooh it has big numbers ...
HTC will always be laggy running sense!!!
cryshop said:
For god's sake, please stop using stupid Quadrant, makes no sense at all.
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mentioning quadrant should be an automatic beating with the ban-stick
Please use the Nexus 4 vs. Any other phone thread that is a sticky
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I am very disappointed with this device. Since I bought this phone always had problems.
Starting from overheating when I'm playing something.
Then the side of the device begins to peel.
Then mold spots appear on the screen.
Then this whole bootloader, rom buggy, etc.
If this device was really good, I do not feel the need to change rom and make the machine go through so many updates. The handset comes with manufacturing a critical bug in the camera. Among other problems. Now I finally got my braces bad time. If I can not fix it I have to leave for Samsung.
I'm no novice user. I've had three devices of Lg.
Lg Optimus One Phone = Bug Phone.
Lg Optimus 2x = Bug Phone.
And now the Lg Optimus 4x = Hd Bug Phone.
I am seriously evaluating getting a Samsung Galaxy Note 2. Visit the forum of this device in Xda. Hardly find complaints about it.
Lg P880 I bought this because it is cheaper, but now I find that cheap actually ends up costing too high.
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Mold spots? If that's true you can't really blame the phone 'cause moisture = mold.
Also, try playing games on any phone and it will get hot. This goes for literally any device on the planet.
Yes, it i was like to say.
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archie87 said:
Mold spots? If that's true you can't really blame the phone 'cause moisture = mold.
Also, try playing games on any phone and it will get hot. This goes for literally any device on the planet.
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But it isnt normal. The phone heats too much!
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Peeeling chrome.
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Yep same here the "quad core+1" tegra 3 "blazing fast" cpu is one real bad cpu to start with, it sucks for real tasks and overheats for that matter. the screen isn't like the other hd ips screens it has a yellow temperature tint unlike the others the blues look desaturated the most out of all the colors and it feels cheaply made.
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But it isnt normal. The phone heats too much!
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please define your "overheating"
overheating is when your device powers off, due to 90°C processor temperature...
the tegra 3 default throttle temp is 85°C, LG's is 71°C... i changed the value in my custom kernel to 80°C, so we can get a better performance also with high temps...
and have you ever been thinking what's working in your device? you've got 4 CPU cores and 1 GPU core... now think of a normal PC, what does a normal PC have, what a phone doesn't? right, a fan. or cooling in general. so the higher temps are completely normal...
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please define your "overheating"
overheating is when your device powers off, due to 90°C processor temperature...
the tegra 3 default throttle temp is 85°C, LG's is 71°C... i changed the value in my custom kernel to 80°C, so we can get a better performance also with high temps...
and have you ever been thinking what's working in your device? you've got 4 CPU cores and 1 GPU core... now think of a normal PC, what does a normal PC have, what a phone doesn't? right, a fan. or cooling in general. so the higher temps are completely normal...
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Yes, but it burn my fingers!
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Yes, but it burn my fingers!
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that's impossible... the phone shuts itself down before that...
Somewhere is problem. I have same phone, only problem is with the bubbles under screen but chrome line still like new, no overheating (max temp about 50° when playing games) and the screen for me much better then samoled (yes, i have s3 and change it - hate design and display absolutly unreadable outside).
And stock rom? Buggy? I havent any stopped aplication since i have this phone, lg launcher is really good.
For me, only bad is camera and sound output with stock player (so im using poweramp )
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S.M-A-RT said:
Somewhere is problem. I have same phone, only problem is with the bubbles under screen but chrome line still like new, no overheating (max temp about 50° when playing games) and the screen for me much better then samoled (yes, i have s3 and change it - hate design and display absolutly unreadable outside).
And stock rom? Buggy? I havent any stopped aplication since i have this phone, lg launcher is really good.
For me, only bad is camera and sound output with stock player (so im using poweramp )
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i've got these bubbles, too... but i don't care
but be careful with the temp, the temp you see is the battery temp, not the processor temp
Meh, another complaining thread.. Personally, I don't even care about and i predict i'm not alone with that.
If u don't like the phone, just sell it, what's the problem?
And i don't see any overheating problems, what are You launching, Crysis from PC?
I think this is the best phone for this price.many phones is the same like ours but cost too much.desighn is verry cool,we dont have many roms and kernels because we just unlocked ours bootloaders and i think we have to wait little more for more stuf.
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Play your games in the fridge! All quad cores get hot! The Samsung amoled screens are horrible! I fancy an s3 because I am a mobile gamer, but if kholks new kernel can give me the performance I was expecting then no way! Everything else about this phone is so much better than Samsung!
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If you have any problems like bubbles under the screen or excessive-myfingersareburning-overheating you should probably use your warranty and get this device checked by authorized personel. Personally, I had none of these problems you mentioned. Phone is rooted, bootloader is unlocked, CyanogenMod is happily running "under the hood". Stock ROM was pretty good for me, but CM is CM. You can't say 'no' to CM. If you don't like this phone, then sell it. Note 2 is indeed a powerful device, I'm sure that you'll be happy with it. But! This phone has yet to show its true power through custom ROMs and kernels. My old 2010 flagship - HTC Desire - got ROM with JB and Touchwiz5 powered by awesome custom kernel, so I really have no doubts that our O4X, which is 10 times stronger than Desire, will get some sick modifications sooner or later (starting with EternityProject kernel and CM 10.1). Cheers! :highfive:
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Meh, another complaining thread.. Personally, I don't even care about and i predict i'm not alone with that.
If u don't like the phone, just sell it, what's the problem?
And i don't see any overheating problems, what are You launching, Crysis from PC?
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yeah another one i think we been through a lot right reas0n
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I can't speak much of comparing the 4X to other phones as my last phone was some crappy chinese knock-off of a htc sensation. But my 4X is built very well (id like to see what you guys mention as 'bubbles' under your screen, was it like that since you brought it?) the phone does get ridiculously hot (you might have seen my thread about my screen suffering major distortion for a few hours, due to overheating while on ac charge ), but again well within tegra 3 specs (this this is stock clocked at 1.5ghz which is 200mhz higher than my tf300t tablet which has much more room to dissipate heat)
Im in love with the design of the phone, only issue i have is i feel the back button is on the wrong side but i use LMT launcher anyway(if you don't know what it is i suggest you look it up). The stock firmware was fine(no issues) other than feeling bloated, stock jellybean was slightly smoother and a bit lighter, CM10.1 is absolutely amazing and in my opinion increases the value of the phone drastically.
Just my take on it.....
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i've got these bubbles, too... but i don't care
but be careful with the temp, the temp you see is the battery temp, not the processor temp
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I know, I look at temperature shown in hidden menu > cpu usage.
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My last phone was a One X and this is on a par at least with that, except in gaming until I at least hope custom kernels will change that.
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JoinTheRealms said:
I can't speak much of comparing the 4X to other phones as my last phone was some crappy chinese knock-off of a htc sensation. But my 4X is built very well (id like to see what you guys mention as 'bubbles' under your screen, was it like that since you brought it?) the phone does get ridiculously hot (you might have seen my thread about my screen suffering major distortion for a few hours, due to overheating while on ac charge ), but again well within tegra 3 specs (this this is stock clocked at 1.5ghz which is 200mhz higher than my tf300t tablet which has much more room to dissipate heat)
Im in love with the design of the phone, only issue i have is i feel the back button is on the wrong side but i use LMT launcher anyway(if you don't know what it is i suggest you look it up). The stock firmware was fine(no issues) other than feeling bloated, stock jellybean was slightly smoother and a bit lighter, CM10.1 is absolutely amazing and in my opinion increases the value of the phone drastically.
Just my take on it.....
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the bubbles are like a user posted in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2246826
I been trying to fix up the thermal-engine.conf file today so it isn't so aggressive, the results were good. Stock settings you can run Antutu bench one time and get pretty good results, probably around 27K, after that it will start to fall. Three runs in and it was hitting 18K, and that translated into some real world slow down, especially in video games.
I completely disabled all of the thermal-engine stuff by renaming thermal-engine.conf to thermal-engine.bak and rebooting. This allowed me to get consistent scores in Antutu. over about 26K each run. The phone did get noticeably warmer around the camera area on the front and back, nothing crazy tho, surprisingly cool compared to other phones.
The other possible limiting factor is maxcpu=2 on the boot image. Changing to to 4 or deleting it all together did nothing. However, from I have gathered setting maxcpu=2 will limit you to two cores.
I see this thread falling to page 2 which makes me sad since I feel it is a very important issue.
I find this extremely interesting and hope there is more work done to circumvent the issue.
Thanks for your testing, OP
So if the phone goes over a certain temperature it will only use 2 cores? I believe I read it tries to stay under 70 C.
Without any changes on stock nexus 5
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Without any changes on stock nexus 5
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Mine broke 30,000 fully stock but you run it a couple of times and watch them scores tumble.
I ran AnTuTu in the freezer and got 29k, I ran AnTuTu normally and I got 23k. for sure it's throttling
t.saddington said:
I ran AnTuTu in the freezer and got 29k, I ran AnTuTu normally and I got 23k. for sure it's throttling
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LOL
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Nexus 5. THE phone to own if you live in Antarctica.
You guys realize Nexus 4 was the same way though right? If you are testing in a freezer make sure it's sealed up tight.
This needs attention of devs. Throttle is a big problem.
I know Franco kernel increased temp throttle from 60 to 70. And can be further increased to 80 using trickstermod. But it still throttles.
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This phone must be agresivly throttling
.. Because I know a 2.3ghz quad core arm CPU can make a lot of heat... And this nexus 5 runs cool most of the time.
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designgears said:
I been trying to fix up the thermal-engine.conf file today so it isn't so aggressive, the results were good. Stock settings you can run Antutu bench one time and get pretty good results, probably around 27K, after that it will start to fall. Three runs in and it was hitting 18K, and that translated into some real world slow down, especially in video games.
I completely disabled all of the thermal-engine stuff by renaming thermal-engine.conf to thermal-engine.bak and rebooting. This allowed me to get consistent scores in Antutu. over about 26K each run. The phone did get noticeably warmer around the camera area on the front and back, nothing crazy tho, surprisingly cool compared to other phones.
The other possible limiting factor is maxcpu=2 on the boot image. Changing to to 4 or deleting it all together did nothing. However, from I have gathered setting maxcpu=2 will limit you to two cores.
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I tested what you say. There is no limit of two cores. You can check this using stability test and system monitor. Most of apps don´t use all the cores because they are not needed, but when you turn on stability test, you can see the four working
There's a post somewhere on this forum that explains why it's limited to 2 cores. If I remember correctly it enables all 4 cores after the boot process completes. Possibly another attempt at keeping the device cool.
I remember seeing the teardown of it and apparently the ram is on top of the cpu...my first thought was that cant be good for keeping it cool. Id imagine it makes things faster between ram and cpu, but id be weary about messing with it being throttled. If its throttling theres probably a good reason
Just south of 30k on Antutu with my phone in a zip lock bag, in a (clean) ice cream container in my eski with ice around it.
While yes the phone does heat up and does throttle, I've seen no impact on any of the games I play (MC4, CS). I'd rather have the phone running at 2 cores when needed and run cool than have a glowing hot ingot on 4 cores all the time.
I've noticed after playing a couple levels of asphalt 8 I see huge frame rate drops. I am usually charging when playing to avoid having a near dead battery after, which I know causes more heat. Throttling must be the issue.
a9y said:
There's a post somewhere on this forum that explains why it's limited to 2 cores. If I remember correctly it enables all 4 cores after the boot process completes. Possibly another attempt at keeping the device cool.
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disable MPDecision and you will enable all four core, its in the /system/bin (?) i believe.
designgears said:
I been trying to fix up the thermal-engine.conf file today so it isn't so aggressive, the results were good. Stock settings you can run Antutu bench one time and get pretty good results, probably around 27K, after that it will start to fall. Three runs in and it was hitting 18K, and that translated into some real world slow down, especially in video games.
I completely disabled all of the thermal-engine stuff by renaming thermal-engine.conf to thermal-engine.bak and rebooting. This allowed me to get consistent scores in Antutu. over about 26K each run. The phone did get noticeably warmer around the camera area on the front and back, nothing crazy tho, surprisingly cool compared to other phones.
The other possible limiting factor is maxcpu=2 on the boot image. Changing to to 4 or deleting it all together did nothing. However, from I have gathered setting maxcpu=2 will limit you to two cores.
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I think the max cpu = 2 is present in the note 3 as well. I keep having only 2 cpus active and it won't return to 4 until the phone is rebooted. Is there a way to disable this?
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MohJee said:
I think the max cpu = 2 is present in the note 3 as well. I keep having only 2 cpus active and it won't return to 4 until the phone is rebooted. Is there a way to disable this?
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disable MPDECISION in system/bin rename it to mpdecision.bak
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disable MPDECISION in system/bin rename it to mpdecision.bak
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Thanks I'll try it and see how it goes.
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