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I've noticed that the camera of the IS blur parts of photos a lot. I noticed this problem on subjects with finer details eg. skin, rocks etc. It tends to blur or supress the finer details within the subject making them unacceptably too soft.
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EDIT: I meant to say NOISE REDUCTION
Nothing like this for me ... Pictures are perfect ... I love the cam ... Maybe its cuz u zoom in too much or something.
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Hmmm, I never zoom though.
Or maybe its just our diff opinions ... For me its perfect ... Maybe u expected something better
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chobie said:
I've noticed that the camera of the IS blur parts of photos a lot. I noticed this problem on subjects with finer details eg. skin, rocks etc. It tends to blur or supress the finer details within the subject.
Opinions?
EDIT: I meant to say NOISE REDUCTION
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I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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nikant said:
I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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I hope this is just a software problem and hopefully they could patch it via an update.
nikant said:
I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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I'm no photographer, but I noticed the file size as well, too much compression.
And waaaay to much noise reduction.
Also, you can switch of standard widescreen to normal 4:3 which results in this:
5:3 = 3264 x 1952 = 6371328 = 6.4 megapixel
4:3 = 3264 x 2448 = 7990272 = 8.0 megapixel
Hopefully we can turn off noise reduction and/or compression in the next update. Shouldn't be too hard for HTC to disable stuff right
Yes... I just upgraded from HTC Desire and I found that pics are not as detailed as before...
The compression thing should be an option, like many other DC.
I noticed the same with my IS...
My Camera 360 app's night enhancement mode is unusable now.
My N1 took beautiful sharp pictures of this same spot I took.
Now it's all blocky, soft, and washed out even though I've maxed out the resolution and size.
This makes me mad!
If it can take macroshots well, why can't it take landscape / non-macroshots well too?
1st photo: Nexus One
2nd Photo: HTC Incredible S
nikant said:
I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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Here's the patch for CM7 (N1). Root is required as it is replacing a file in the /system partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011810
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Here's the patch for CM7 (N1). Root is required as it is replacing a file in the /system partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011810
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We dont have root yet though. Makes me sadder =/
HTC should update the firmware and fix this themselves. I wonder if theyll have this problem on Verizon's Incredible 2.
I've send an email to HTC support just out of curiosity of their official response.. Although I don't believe they'll say something significant. Companies tend to defend their choices..
when i load the photos to my laptop, i found all of them a little bit red...
I really can not be satisfied with this so-called 8 mega-pixel camera.
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I've send an email to HTC support just out of curiosity of their official response.. Although I don't believe they'll say something significant. Companies tend to defend their choices..
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got a reply today.. they asked me for samples of photos that show the problem.. I sent them.. let's see..
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got a reply today.. they asked me for samples of photos that show the problem.. I sent them.. let's see..
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The most terrible scenario is using zoom. You would want to move forward a few steps, it entirely defeats the purpose of zoom.
We should rally this and send more samples to them.
What email contact did you guys use?
Hopefully they patch this with the Gingerbread update!
Maybe they had used to the bad quality of camera, because from now on, HTC is really not good at the entertainment field in mobile phone, no matter camera or music.
I have been looking at the camera, he actually and ordinary card machine than what outstanding? Easy to use? The best a few proofs, give me have a look.
Awsome camera go into the main general thread there is a best pics thread with some good pics . Ive just updated it so it should be near the top
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What I generally tell people who ask me that very same question, is this, admittedly there are cheaper cameras that produce a better image quality, that's not to say the photos are rubbish, I just know that you could spend considerably less for the same or equal image quality.
You're paying a premium for what it is, as there is only one other device like it on the market right now (more are on the way) if you buy this camera, you're definitely buying it as a WANT, not a NEED and probably succumbing to the need to have the latest and greatest tech.
The functionality you get over a standard point-and-shoot (PaS) is definitely the key thing here, I've not plugged this thing in to a computer to transfer images one, it's all done over the air.
I will go out, take whatever photos and by the time I've got home, they are already waiting for me to view, whether that's on Google+ via it's auto upload feature, or the full size images that have been synced through to my machines via dropbox. The ability to instantly share those photos using any method available to the Android platform is another massive bonus, as well as all the editing apps available on the platform too.
The lens on the camera gives ample range and in some cases greater than other, normal, cameras out there and the pre defined "Smart Settings" work very well, as well as the manual settings which for me, is a very welcomed feature.
The remote viewfinder and the ability to control the camera from your phone is an excellent feature, doing group shots, with yourself in the group is now an easy thing to do, without the hassle of setting a timer and running back etc...
One problem I have found with the camera, which will get better with upcoming software updates I believe, is the occasional lag, not just in the camera app but the while device and it's no where near as quick to load from a cold boot.
Overall it's a great device, the build quality is good and all the features you get from having the Android OS bolted on is great. But only you can decide whether you think it's worth shelling out the money they're asking for it and if not now, maybe when the price drops you might. And if your sole requirement is to have the best image quality possible and nothing else, then there are other cameras in the same price bracket that yield better results.
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I get that instagram is all about filters but I'm talking about photo resolution on the uploads. The photos shared from my One are far more pixelated and jaggy (overall crappy .jpgs themselves instead of filter related) than photos from my iPhone 4s were. Is there any reason for this drop in quality of pictures? What's the point of having this awesome camera if all the photos I share to both instagram and facebook look so crappy when shared?
These are 612x612 pictures there shouldn't even need to be any compression done on them to warrant the loss in quality.
Facebook is similar, I can readily zoom on my friends' iOS uploads from my phone but my uploads are letterboxed on my screen and I can't zoom in on them. It's frustrating when one of the reasons I switched to this phone was for photo quality.
I know it's not the phone's fault because they look great on here, so what's the deal with these apps and does anybody know how to fix?
Mine look fine
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Mine look fine
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They look okay but there's a noticeable drop in quality from the same scene (even the same photo if I put the iOS photo on my android phone). Either Instagram, Facebook, or the Android upload system is scaling the pics down more than is done with iOS photos.
It's not deal breaking but when part of the reason you switch phones is the improved camera tech on the new one, it's a little grating that your 2 year old phone's photos look clearer than your new one's photos on social media sites.
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They look okay but there's a noticeable drop in quality from the same scene (even the same photo if I put the iOS photo on my android phone). Either Instagram, Facebook, or the Android upload system is scaling the pics down more than is done with iOS photos.
It's not deal breaking but when part of the reason you switch phones is the improved camera tech on the new one, it's a little grating that your 2 year old phone's photos look clearer than your new one's photos on social media sites.
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What's happening is that a 612 x 612 resolution photograph is being scaled up to a screen that is 1080 pixels across and more than an inch larger. The iPhone 4S only had 640 pixels across so its no comparison. The much higher resolution and the vastly larger screen is why the pictures look pixelated on the HTC One. Instagram should really consider increasing the image size to 1024 x 1024 seeing as how mobile displays have come a long way since the Retina displays of 2010.
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What's happening is that a 612 x 612 resolution photograph is being scaled up to a screen that is 1080 pixels across and more than an inch larger. The iPhone 4S only had 640 pixels across so its no comparison. The much higher resolution and the vastly larger screen is why the pictures look pixelated on the HTC One. Instagram should really consider increasing the image size to 1024 x 1024 seeing as how mobile displays have come a long way since the Retina displays of 2010.
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I agree with what you're saying but actually my issues come from the photos themselves when viewed on a regular computer browser window. I can look at my instagram history from the photos I post now to the ones I posted a few weeks ago with my iPhone and they're noticeably jaggier for some reason coming from the One. It's a shame but hopefully it's a minor bump in the road towards the future I agree should happen.
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I agree with what you're saying but actually my issues come from the photos themselves when viewed on a regular computer browser window. I can look at my instagram history from the photos I post now to the ones I posted a few weeks ago with my iPhone and they're noticeably jaggier for some reason coming from the One. It's a shame but hopefully it's a minor bump in the road towards the future I agree should happen.
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I did notice that on the last picture I posted. The letters seemed jagged. Of course, we probably can't expect a fix for a while because all the major app developers cater to the iPhone users first. Instagram was iPhone only for a long time.
I think the 16:9 sensor may have something to do with it, as opposed to the 4:3 on most other phones
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retnuh730 said:
I agree with what you're saying but actually my issues come from the photos themselves when viewed on a regular computer browser window. I can look at my instagram history from the photos I post now to the ones I posted a few weeks ago with my iPhone and they're noticeably jaggier for some reason coming from the One. It's a shame but hopefully it's a minor bump in the road towards the future I agree should happen.
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Ahh I gotcha. If anything it sounds like its a setting with the Instagram app for Android. If you can, maybe you can try it on another Android phone and see if the issues persist. If they do it's due to the app, if not then unfortunately it would be the phone acting wonky.
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Ahh I gotcha. If anything it sounds like its a setting with the Instagram app for Android. If you can, maybe you can try it on another Android phone and see if the issues persist. If they do it's due to the app, if not then unfortunately it would be the phone acting wonky.
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I think it may be phone specific. The pictures from my EVO LTE never looked like that. I will post the same picture from both phones sometime and compare to see if there is noticeable difference.
I'm having this problem on my gs4 never had this problem on my iPhone 5 any ideas for a work around.
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I'm having this problem on my gs4 never had this problem on my iPhone 5 any ideas for a work around.
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I went to the settings->advanced features and unchecked the two options there and my pictures seem to look better. I'm glad you've noticed this as well because I feel like people who've only used android don't realize how much nicer pics from the iPhone looked.
Yeah, I just noticed this as well. The pics actually look worse than those from my old Galaxy SII, which had a terrible camera. What the hell, instagram?
I've noticed this as well...the pictures take a big hit in IQ when uploaded to Instagram. The copies saved to the phone look fine, but they do look pretty bad on Instagram. Even the preview thumbnails took a hit.
My friend has a SGS4 and his pictures come out SUPER jagged....mine do not suffer from that problem but do look watered down.
Pictures look much, much, MUCH better on the iPhone 5.
anybody looked at the compression rate?
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anybody looked at the compression rate?
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How do you check that?
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How do you check that?
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its in the app...u know like how they uncompress the mms pic size...ive seen this happen in a bunch of other apps also
pics look terrible
It seems that the apps is over compressing and applying sharpening to them. I have the HTC One international version.
The last couple of days I thought I was going crazy when seeing the crappy quality of the uploaded photos.
I will upload a couple of pics later to see if disabling High quality processing in the Advanced options fixes this.
It most probably something related with new phones, as some Galaxy S4 users are reporting the same problem with their phones.
Someone posted this on reddit... there's a clear difference here for anybody who was wondering or didn't notice it before.
http://i.imgur.com/3l1AnoQ.jpg
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Someone posted this on reddit... there's a clear difference here for anybody who was wondering or didn't notice it before.
http://i.imgur.com/3l1AnoQ.jpg
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I've also noticed this. You are not going crazy.
I've grown increasingly disappointed in the camera on this phone. 13mp photos are compressed, grainy, and look just awful up close at full zoom. Are there any workarounds to improve image quality?
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There's no rocket science here.
It's the same with every Xperia flagship, from X10 till Z.
It's the result of terrible post-processing handled by default Xperia camera software, which tries to artificially remove noise and then terribly compress image, to achieve as lower file size as it could. Which again, is terribly wrong, and only Sony developers know why is this like this.
In a world of huge internal storages, and generally cheap 32+GB microSD cards, they are trying to compress images to the lower limits.
On my last phone, Xperia Arc S, I partially solved this by using CameraZOOM FX app, that doesn't compress images that badly, and it produced overall better images than default Camera app, and larger in size also. It was especially noticable with macro high detailed shots, like text or similar.
But, on Xperia T, for some reason CameraZOOM is not providing 16:9 aspect ratio option, so you're stuck with standard 4:3 ratio images, which is deal-breaker for me to be honest. So unfortunately I'm stuck with default camera app till CameraZOOM devs fix this issue, or till some better camera app appears.
Attached are 3 pictures from 3 different sources. Camera zoom, Android 4.3 camera, and stock Sony. Can anyone tell the difference?
Camera zoom
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Stock. Sorry it won't let me upload to one post from my phone
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First, images you uploaded are downsampled to 1032x774 resolution, therefore unusable for any kind of comparison.
Second, if you haven't done that already, set image quality in Camera ZOOM to 100%.
Third, find some object with clean and defined lines/shapes (ever saw gsm arena photo comparison sample?), as only that way you can see difference if there is any.
And then upload those photos to imageshack in FULL resolution, and then share them here, and ask for opinion.
And even if you prove to be right (which I doubt you'll be), I never said that Camera ZOOM will surely provide better results on Xperia T too. I know it made a difference back on Xperia Arc S, and in some situations quite a huge difference.
Maybe one more thing to add is, I'm working with graphics on daily basis, so I know what I'm talking about.
Thanks for the information. I obviously don't know what I'm doing and didn't know it sampled down when attaching. I'll clean this thread up and do some more comparison on my own before posting given your helpful advice. Thanks again!
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i see no difference in that three pics, upload photobucket full size maybe
my observations:
when i was on CM in past, i used camerazoom and procapture, both are nice. negative for me was the time it need for procapture to shoot+save a pic, a bit too long. but many options, also 16:9. i not installed camerazoomfx since it cannot 16:9 on sony stock here
iam quite satisfied with sony stock camera (no cybershot mod). i play around with manual settings, so i make quite good shots for daily use.
only for panorama i bought me propanorama, its simply a sexy panorama app:silly:
Ok, I did a quick comparison this morning, and unfortunately with undesired result.
Maybe the object of shooting wasn't ideal because of lack of colors, but I think it could give us general idea about comparison of stock Camera and Camera ZOOM.
So, I took a shot of tech magazine, from same angle and same distance, as much as I could, and there's no big difference to be honest.
There's no difference in file sizes, and in quality of pictures too. I remember though, that back on Xperia Arc S, Camera ZOOM provided bigger files for about 20-30%.
So here are the full resolution shots:
Camera ZOOM:
http://imageshack.us/a/img513/9871/ky.jpg
Stock Camera:
http://imageshack.us/a/img11/2116/w1lx.jpg
And this is a 100% zoom cut-out I did in Photoshop:
As you can see, there's no big difference, if any at all. If you try hard, you can see some small difference in edge sharpness, on big letters "S" and "U", but nothing spectacular. Also, on upper part of picture, you can see that letter "H" is a little bih cleaner and sharper on Camera ZOOM, but this could be due to un-ideally aligned focus on both photos, as they are not taken from 100% ideally the same angles/position.
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There's no rocket science here.
It's the same with every Xperia flagship, from X10 till Z.
It's the result of terrible post-processing handled by default Xperia camera software, which tries to artificially remove noise and then terribly compress image, to achieve as lower file size as it could. Which again, is terribly wrong, and only Sony developers know why is this like this.
In a world of huge internal storages, and generally cheap 32+GB microSD cards, they are trying to compress images to the lower limits.
On my last phone, Xperia Arc S, I partially solved this by using CameraZOOM FX app, that doesn't compress images that badly, and it produced overall better images than default Camera app, and larger in size also. It was especially noticable with macro high detailed shots, like text or similar.
But, on Xperia T, for some reason CameraZOOM is not providing 16:9 aspect ratio option, so you're stuck with standard 4:3 ratio images, which is deal-breaker for me to be honest. So unfortunately I'm stuck with default camera app till CameraZOOM devs fix this issue, or till some better camera app appears.
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I've grown increasingly disappointed in the camera on this phone. 13mp photos are compressed, grainy, and look just awful up close at full zoom. Are there any workarounds to improve image quality?
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For me xperia t camera is awesome in all conditions... way better then xperia sp....its superior auto mode works fine although it compressed pictures but its ok the end result is fine but i had problem in video recording because auto focussing is not good in video so i fixed it by a help of a great camera app called LG camera.....
here is the complete thread of mine if u wana know more and know all problem is solved
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45066222#post45066222 :good:
Hello! Ive been using a Huawei Honor 5x for about a year now >.< after breaking my m8 and z3... BUT! I had a couple questions, looking around i found a lot of people talking about how good the "Auto" mode was on the phone >.> and had some questions.
Has anyone here tried playing with the Raw files on the OP3? Or tried doing any POST work to any of their photos to clean them up//make them look any better? I was going through comparisons between this, the Pixel, and the s7 (which id never buy in america because there are no ROMS and the phone is slow as nonsense) AND looking at those photos from the perspective of someone who owned an Honor 5x for so long...
The three are really not significantly different in any way that i could tell. Sure the other two expose better in low light...but then, how much room do we have to play with in post with that? lol cause if we can force ISO a couple stops lower and still pull that detail from POST work im pretty sure POST photos will look much, much better than the auto photos on any of the other phones.
Not to mention, because they are very only lightly different here... we have the fastest phone, and if the photos are correctable, that means that we could have at least some awesome POST work pictures, and the fastest phone o.o there really wouldnt need to be an upgrade.
So i was curious, has anyone played with the raw files to see what they could really get out of the OP3's camera or have most of you here only played with auto modes or manual modes saving to jpeg without editing. And if so, whats your experience like!
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o.o so i been looking at it >.> and i think its pretty coo, but working on various settings and what can be done, ALSO, wanna be able to take more pictures in better lighting. BUT
IMG 1 and 4 were raw files, and actually, its raw output is pretty exciting
I switched from the S7 (930F), because I use only the photo part of the camera and after trying out the OP3 (not the T), i realized, that the higher MP count lets me crop more and details were better. Sure the S7 was a better all-rounder, but I had it for a year and also got tired of it
I am having the 3T for 2 weeks now and the results are in line with what I was expecting.
I did not have time yet to make a full test drive (planning it this weekend), but here are some RAWs I edited in-phone or in PS(+ Nik Plugins from Google).
The noise is obvious in some shots after heavy editing id's say more than on the S7 results, so I am currently trying some DFINE2 profiles to reduce it (and planning to try out Topaz Denoise as well).
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I switched from the S7 (930F), because I use only the photo part of the camera and after trying out the OP3 (not the T), i realized, that the higher MP count lets me crop more and details were better. Sure the S7 was a better all-rounder, but I had it for a year and also got tired of it
I am having the 3T for 2 weeks now and the results are in line with what I was expecting.
I did not have time yet to make a full test drive (planning it this weekend), but here are some RAWs I edited in-phone or in PS(+ Nik Plugins from Google).
The noise is obvious in some shots after heavy editing id's say more than on the S7 results, so I am currently trying some DFINE2 profiles to reduce it (and planning to try out Topaz Denoise as well).
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Awesome! o.o use photoshop more often eh? Im a big fan of lightroom for editing as its noise removal is kinda nuts in a lot of ways, i think i use topaz detail?...
ah no, i use fustion express. Pretty good tho if i ever need to dive out of lightroom for a minute. Yeah you know if i can run a couple tests in lightroom i think ill be able to remove that noise o.o A little fine tuning and im sure it will get down.
Do you like photoshop for raw edits? When i plugged in my T5 RAW files to photoshop >.> it was giving kinda limited options for editing those files.
those are some awesome shots though
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I switched from the S7 (930F), because I use only the photo part of the camera and after trying out the OP3 (not the T), i realized, that the higher MP count lets me crop more and details were better. Sure the S7 was a better all-rounder, but I had it for a year and also got tired of it
I am having the 3T for 2 weeks now and the results are in line with what I was expecting.
I did not have time yet to make a full test drive (planning it this weekend), but here are some RAWs I edited in-phone or in PS(+ Nik Plugins from Google).
The noise is obvious in some shots after heavy editing id's say more than on the S7 results, so I am currently trying some DFINE2 profiles to reduce it (and planning to try out Topaz Denoise as well).
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o.o for example here is the noise removed from that shot, though the initial jpg compression was a little heavy haha, still took the noise out of the clouds.
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Awesome! o.o use photoshop more often eh? Im a big fan of lightroom for editing as its noise removal is kinda nuts in a lot of ways, i think i use topaz detail?...
ah no, i use fustion express. Pretty good tho if i ever need to dive out of lightroom for a minute. Yeah you know if i can run a couple tests in lightroom i think ill be able to remove that noise o.o A little fine tuning and im sure it will get down.
Do you like photoshop for raw edits? When i plugged in my T5 RAW files to photoshop >.> it was giving kinda limited options for editing those files.
those are some awesome shots though
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I use PS, because I need an all-in-one tools for my photos. Also I use a DSLR and for some sceneraios I need stacking. Well, it is the most complex app I'd say, but it does everything.
Camera RAW 9.4 is preety good for RAW edits for me
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I use PS, because I need an all-in-one tools for my photos. Also I use a DSLR and for some sceneraios I need stacking. Well, it is the most complex app I'd say, but it does everything.
Camera RAW 9.4 is preety good for RAW edits for me
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I use photoshop on occasion but not really for anything more extensive than removing things from shots though ive thought about it o.o maybe ill give it another look i have it installed alongside lightroom, just never really found much use for it photography wise. It looks pretty good for edits those are some great pictures!
100% Original no edits from view from the sand
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Just a quick question to current 3T owners, how has the camera fared at capturing moving subjects? Is it as horrendous as some people make it out to be?