My HTC One is the international version, the model is 801n, and rom version is 1.28.401.7
I have not rooted it, and it is still official bootloader locked.
btw: I have disabled Facebook App before, and uncheck the "Enable Tilt Scrolling" option in Chrome before.
I used three apps to watch the battery usage, GSam, BetterBatteryStats and Wakelock Detector.
GSam reported that totally battery usage is 26% for about 3h36m.
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The screen on time is 1h16m, but kernel Wakelocks views show that
1. main - time: 2h34m, number: 31
2. msm_hsic_host - time: 2h26m, number: 1397
3. suspend_backoff - time: 2h4m, number: 374
Wakelock Detector did not show any serious apps.
BetterBatteryStats also showed that msm_hsic_host and suspend_backoff wakelocks are serious
How can I find which apps are the causes or is it a kernel bug?
The only method I have thought is disable the app one by one and observe the battery usage.
Is there any better methods. Thank you very much!
Same issue here. Although my drain wouldn't be that bad (5+ hours screen time with moderate use). I googled the issue and it seems pretty popular but the only solution for other people was to install another custom kernel. Its too early for us and no kernel has addressed this issue yet. Supposedly it has something to do with Qualcomm and is a bug within it. I am rooted and have a custom ROM+Kernel and this issue still persists. Hopefully someone has found a fix or comes up with a kernel Because I had over 2000 wakelocks from this today and thats too much!
If you have root, run Shark for Root for an hour or two while on standby.
Make sure that instead of 0 for the capture setting, set it to 68. You might not understand what that means now, but once you look at the application it should make sense.
Once you have the file, put it on your computer and download Microsoft Network Monitor on your computer, or some other .pcap reader. Open the capture file, start searching up the IPs your phone is contacting. The more packets sent back and forth, the more likely that is your problem.
My problem was Hotmail push sync. Yours may be something else.
shief24 said:
Same issue here. Although my drain wouldn't be that bad (5+ hours screen time with moderate use). I googled the issue and it seems pretty popular but the only solution for other people was to install another custom kernel. Its too early for us and no kernel has addressed this issue yet. Supposedly it has something to do with Qualcomm and is a bug within it. I am rooted and have a custom ROM+Kernel and this issue still persists. Hopefully someone has found a fix or comes up with a kernel Because I had over 2000 wakelocks from this today and thats too much!
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Hope that new OTA update can solve this problem partly. But I think maybe there are some rogue apps causing the problem.
If I get the OTA, maybe I will reset my phone, and install the app one by one with observing the battery drain.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
If you have root, run Shark for Root for an hour or two while on standby.
Make sure that instead of 0 for the capture setting, set it to 68. You might not understand what that means now, but once you look at the application it should make sense.
Once you have the file, put it on your computer and download Microsoft Network Monitor on your computer, or some other .pcap reader. Open the capture file, start searching up the IPs your phone is contacting. The more packets sent back and forth, the more likely that is your problem.
My problem was Hotmail push sync. Yours may be something else.
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Thank you very much. But I do not want to root my phone right now.
Is there any method without root which can find out the battery killer?
root and use greenify, its awsome
expertzero1 said:
root and use greenify, its awsome
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Greenify is an extreme measure. I prefer to have my apps and sync settings working properly instead of relying on forced hibernation to solve the issue.
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bfdream said:
Thank you very much. But I do not want to root my phone right now.
Is there any method without root which can find out the battery killer?
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Your only chance then is to see if anything uses a lot of data in standby.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
Greenify is an extreme measure. I prefer to have my apps and sync settings working properly instead of relying on forced hibernation to solve the issue.
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Your only chance then is to see if anything uses a lot of data in standby.
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I think checking the data usage may give me some hints on that.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
Greenify is an extreme measure. I prefer to have my apps and sync settings working properly instead of relying on forced hibernation to solve the issue.
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Your only chance then is to see if anything uses a lot of data in standby.
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I only use it on facebook and maps.
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium
Something definitely up with your phone mine doesn't have anywhere near as high wakelocks as that.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
If you have root, run Shark for Root for an hour or two while on standby.
Make sure that instead of 0 for the capture setting, set it to 68. You might not understand what that means now, but once you look at the application it should make sense.
Once you have the file, put it on your computer and download Microsoft Network Monitor on your computer, or some other .pcap reader. Open the capture file, start searching up the IPs your phone is contacting. The more packets sent back and forth, the more likely that is your problem.
My problem was Hotmail push sync. Yours may be something else.
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Thanks for the simple instructions! I'm gonna give this a go right now and I'll report back the problem for anyone else.
EDIT: After looking I still have found nothing that was useful. The number one ip address belonged to google and the second most belong to IANA.
I recently noticed that I've been having a lot of wakelocks as well.
I took a peek with betterbatterystats and realized that stupid maps had enabled location reporting. Turned that bastard off and all should be well now.
Other than that, I disabled all notifications for ebay, twitter, facebook...
Mine is mediaserver related.. I've run an mp3 checker and deleted any of the files it said were corrupt, but it still seems to be high usage..I had this problem before on AOSP Roms on my Inspire and found that Google music player was the cause. I've disabled that now and a few other Att apps to see if it helps.
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium
I think the wakelock issue is caused by some apps.
Because I disabled all my social apps and news reader apps last night.
After I wake up, I use BetterBatteryStats to check that, which shows that
The battery drain is about 1.3%/h, which is much better than before.
The time ratio of sleep to wake is about 5:1, while the same ratio is about 1:2 before.
The next time, I will find out the battery killer app one by one.
bfdream said:
My HTC One is the international version, the model is 801n, and rom version is 1.28.401.7
I have not rooted it, and it is still official bootloader locked.
btw: I have disabled Facebook App before, and uncheck the "Enable Tilt Scrolling" option in Chrome before.
I used three apps to watch the battery usage, GSam, BetterBatteryStats and Wakelock Detector.
GSam reported that totally battery usage is 26% for about 3h36m.
View attachment 1914957
The screen on time is 1h16m, but kernel Wakelocks views show that
1. main - time: 2h34m, number: 31
2. msm_hsic_host - time: 2h26m, number: 1397
3. suspend_backoff - time: 2h4m, number: 374
View attachment 1914958
Wakelock Detector did not show any serious apps.
BetterBatteryStats also showed that msm_hsic_host and suspend_backoff wakelocks are serious
View attachment 1914959View attachment 1914960
How can I find which apps are the causes or is it a kernel bug?
The only method I have thought is disable the app one by one and observe the battery usage.
Is there any better methods. Thank you very much!
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Yes its wierd, narrowed it down to following :
1. Wifi on but not connected
2. Google Play Music sometimes
3. HTC Backup service goes crazy when #1 condition is met
Related
Here is a simple but VERY useful tool!
A widget which shows the actual current.
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Goodbye to such sayings like "My battery lasts 4-7 hours" or "about 10% per hour"
The value refreshes every 30 seconds at most!
Set the update intervall to 1 min and leave your phone for 10 minutes in standby to check the standby current.
Note: Unplug the charger!
Note 2: It seems that you need a working battery driver!
I think we can use this thread for reporting the currents of the different builds (settings, kernels, WM ROMs etc.) to find the best battery saving build/combination.
So please report your best (standby) values here!!
(with Build, Kernel, WM Rom, maybe Radio ROM)
Download:
All devices:
Search in the market for "CurrentWidget" or download the CurrentWidget_v0.16.apk from below (and place it in /andboot/androidapps folder on your storage card).
Xperia X1 aka HTC Kovsky:
Linux MSM/Tremere's Kernel:
With xdandroid build download CurrentWidget_v0.16.apk
With CM6 and other builds download CurrentWidget_all.apk
sp3dev's Kernel:
Take the market version or download CurrentWidget_x1.apk and place it in /andboot/androidapps folder on your storage card
Thanks to the developer Ran Manor!!
http://code.google.com/p/currentwidget/
There is also a donate version in the market
Updated: 07.11.2010
Build: XDAndroid FRX01
Kernel: sp3dev's new kernel
WM ROM: Laurenti's 40MB ROM
Standby: 15mA - 30mA
Wow, great find. Thanks.
Really useful!
Thanks!
i am using tremeres 27/9 build but get 0ma reading. am i doing something wrong?
calvinfoo said:
i am using tremeres 27/9 build but get 0ma reading. am i doing something wrong?
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You've taken the version from the market?
I think Ran hasn't uploaded the new version yet. Wait for v0.16 or download it from above.
xdandroid support has been added in v0.16 by Ran (and me )
Matzemink said:
You've taken the version from the market?
I think Ran hasn't uploaded the new version yet. Wait for v0.16 or download it from above.
xdandroid support has been added in v0.16 by Ran (and me )
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oh ok i used the new version above and it works thanks.
This widget wrote into logs that standby is using 8mA
I really doubt that this is correct. Anyone have simmilar issue? I have Neopeek CM6 with latest XDANDROID build.
Matzemink said:
Goodbye to such sayings like "My battery lasts 4-7 hours" or "about 10% per hour"
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This data is 100% correct becouse its true data.
If phone dies after 6 hours its 100% correct data.
% per hour is also correct and valid data becouse its measured in WM.
Who can guarantee that data from this application is true. It gets data via android...the same background as battery life and status which is incorrect.
denyboy said:
This data is 100% correct becouse its true data.
If phone dies after 6 hours its 100% correct data.
% per hour is also correct and valid data becouse its measured in WM.
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No it's not. Only the current is 100% correct.
You wanna say "4-7 hours" is correct?
You also can't say "the phone dies after 6 hours EXACTLY".. 6 hours standby? Light use? Heavy use? What means "light use" ?
denyboy said:
Who can guarantee that data from this application is true. It gets data via android...the same background as battery life and status which is incorrect.
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It's the same reading like in Tremere's "current.sh".
You wanna call Tremere's work into question?
Hi
Build: 03-10-2010 Special Edition-CyanogenMod6.0 Sony Xperia X1
Kernel: XDAndroid-kernel dated 28-08-2010
WM ROM: Shady313 Make Your Own Series [23134 Release 1][29/08/10]
I'm running Neopeeks 03-10-2010 "Special Edition-CyanogenMod6.0 Sony Xperia X1". Followed all of the steps in Neo's setup exactly.
Have turned off absolutely everything in Android but I still get readings ranging between 650mAh in standby up to approx 820mAh according to my own readings and confirmed by the log.
Suggestions/ideas anyone in how to decrease the current?
Matzemink said:
No it's not. Only the current is 100% correct.
You wanna say "4-7 hours" is correct?
You also can't say "the phone dies after 6 hours EXACTLY".. 6 hours standby? Light use? Heavy use? What means "light use" ?
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I always put all android ports under same enviroment and same configuration. And i test it for one hour without any use. So its reliable data for comparision.
And is there anything more reliable than the fact that with one port your phone works on stanby without any use for 4 hours, other for 6 hours, and other for 2 hours. This is 100% correct data.
Your phone can feed you with information that consumption is low and state is ex. 50% but who cares when in reality your battery is empty and your phone shuts down.
Matzemink said:
It's the same reading like in Tremere's "current.sh".
You wanna call Tremere's work into question?
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As far as i know battery status and state is incorrect and not reliable in android ports for X1. What makes this data from this Widget reliable when it comes from same background as battery status and state.
Im not beeing offensive and im not an expert. Im just trying to see things logicly.
Peteflyman said:
Have turned off absolutely everything in Android but I still get readings ranging between 650mAh in standby up to approx 820mAh according to my own readings and confirmed by the log.
Suggestions/ideas anyone in how to decrease the current?
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It seems that you need a working batttery driver for correct readings..
so use Tremere's kernel 27/9..
Or did you still leave your charger plugged in?
Updated first post with a version for other android builds than xdandroid (i.e. CM6).
(Remember to use Tremere's kernel!)
Please report whether it works.
It's a nice tool ! Just a question... I don't have more place for widget, and don't want widget like this. So i search for the same tool but as an application (not a widget) with notification icon (Like "Battery Indicator"). Ran Manor please read me
Frakatchoo said:
It's a nice tool ! Just a question... I don't have more place for widget, and don't want widget like this. So i search for the same tool but as an application (not a widget) with notification icon (Like "Battery Indicator"). Ran Manor please read me
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Yeah would love that too. I am used to BattClock from my old WM-Days. The actual current was always displayed in the NotificationBar and suprisingly it didnt use any battery although it was updated quite frequently... Any chances to implement this in Android?
I'm sad because mine is not working,
Samsung Galaxy S, froyo (official)
I got error1
Am i doing something wrong?
oskretc said:
I'm sad because mine is not working,
Samsung Galaxy S, froyo (official)
I got error1
Am i doing something wrong?
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Did you read the part about the necessary driver? Maybe this is the culprit...
299-399 while in use and 31 in standby.
CDMA HTC hero running CM6 nightly 103
I'm getting error 1, update now, Droid X.
I have no clue what happened....my galaxy was working fine...laggy a bit, but nothing i cant handle. I was at a club last night and recorded a 20 mins video...its saved. So as of this mornign my galaxy has been crawlingggg to load things....everything is either delayed or going really slow. NoLed is slow, chomp sms popup is slow....this phone is starting to commit suicide or something....any ideas why my phone started to all of a sudden lag alot?....when it didnt before???....and no lag fix is not a option for me.
Back up the video on your pc then delete it from the phone and see if that restores it back to its original speed.
sean2476 said:
Back up the video on your pc then delete it from the phone and see if that restores it back to its original speed.
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trying that now....for some reason kies seem to take forever to transfer video to pc. sigh....
Have u tried rebooting ur phone?
Seifer1975 said:
Have u tried rebooting ur phone?
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yes i have and am now trasnferring the video...but Kies is taking sooooo long to do so. Its a real pain. I hope it was lagging cause of the massive amounts of videos i have...we shall see. (if i can get the video transferred)
if you're rooted you can try adjusting the minfree settings using the minfree app
jark99 said:
I have no clue what happened....my galaxy was working fine...laggy a bit, but nothing i cant handle. I was at a club last night and recorded a 20 mins video...its saved. So as of this mornign my galaxy has been crawlingggg to load things....everything is either delayed or going really slow. NoLed is slow, chomp sms popup is slow....this phone is starting to commit suicide or something....any ideas why my phone started to all of a sudden lag alot?....when it didnt before???....and no lag fix is not a option for me.
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This is what happened to my galaxy s as well. I have no recovery mode and root/lag fix was not an option for me till i found my solution step by step. I applied One click lag fix and it become so much smoother and faster. Sms notification has no delay even on Chomp Sms. =) The hardware of Galaxy S was good, but the firmware is a problem.
cheeshun said:
This is what happened to my galaxy s as well. I have no recovery mode and root/lag fix was not an option for me till i found my solution step by step. I applied One click lag fix and it become so much smoother and faster. Sms notification has no delay even on Chomp Sms. =) The hardware of Galaxy S was good, but the firmware is a problem.
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it seems ok now....(well not really )...but the reason i dont want to apply a lag fix is cause of the "reported" internal sd card fails....and i dont have $ for a new phone if this one gets screwed over.
install Task Manager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8422188&postcount=99
and Auto Run Killer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8123924&postcount=40
optimize your phone, and the lags will be gone
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jark99 said:
I have no clue what happened....my galaxy was working fine...laggy a bit, but nothing i cant handle. I was at a club last night and recorded a 20 mins video...its saved. So as of this mornign my galaxy has been crawlingggg to load things....everything is either delayed or going really slow. NoLed is slow, chomp sms popup is slow....this phone is starting to commit suicide or something....any ideas why my phone started to all of a sudden lag alot?....when it didnt before???....and no lag fix is not a option for me.
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AllGamer said:
install Task Manager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8422188&postcount=99
and Auto Run Killer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8123924&postcount=40
optimize your phone, and the lags will be gone
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i have auto killer and i just use stock task manager...as alot of people have been saying other task managers are useless cause Android OS is designed to handle it....confused....
the stock task manager is not that great, and the widget only works on the stock launcher.
the task manager the one i linked you can setup white list and black list
so it will automatically allow what to run, and kill what should not be running on its own
I wouldn't of used Kies to make the transfer, should've used a mass storage and transferred it using windows explorer. Also, I'd advocate against the task manager. I haven't used one on the SGS in about 2 months, back when I did I never let it run 24/7, sometimes I'd manually open it and kill almost all tasks. Task killers, such as ATK, will almost surely hurt your battery life if you let them run in the background, in fact, I'd even bet on it.
These days, I try to keep all my favorite programs in the background (unless they use CPU while idle, but even GTalk is great on battery life, as is LauncherPro and the widgets I have elected to keep). As long as you use the same 10-20 apps you should be fine, even if you use more you might be fine but not quite as good depending on how many apps you have loaded and storage space you use in total.
Since I highly doubt that the file size was huge and would overload the system, I wonder if a bug either sprang up and/or (maybe more likely) you created a hardware problem such as overheating your phone and processor and are now having issues. If nothing else works, try to back up all your apps and info to an SD card and then do a factory reset. If your problems continue then it's hardware.
Now I dont know whether to.keep the task apps or not lol...2 different opinions here...
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The lagfixes don't increase the amount of writes to the internal SD and they certainly don't break it. Any of the lagfixes in the FAQ (see my sig) are well tested and nearly 100% safe. I would definitely recommend to either use voodoo or the modded version that uses the stock-kernel. You won't believe your eyes.
The reason your phone got so damn slow was because of RFS. The camera APP caches on the /data partition and when it does so, it created a massive amount of file system errors (a related thread can be found here).
Darkstriker said:
The lagfixes don't increase the amount of writes to the internal SD and they certainly don't break it. Any of the lagfixes in the FAQ (see my sig) are well tested and nearly 100% safe. I would definitely recommend to either use voodoo or the modded version that uses the stock-kernel. You won't believe your eyes.
The reason your phone got so damn slow was because of RFS. The camera APP caches on the /data partition and when it does so, it created a massive amount of file system errors (a related thread can be found here).
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So if i apply a lag fix...either OCLF or Voodoo...you can Guarantee i wont see a internal sd failure?...cause i remember All Gamer talking about how he wanted to fix the lag fix to write onto sd card or something like that...(dont quote me) its 100% safe?
AllGamer said:
the stock task manager is not that great, and the widget only works on the stock launcher.
the task manager the one i linked you can setup white list and black list
so it will automatically allow what to run, and kill what should not be running on its own
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Don't many developers etc say not to run task killers? They actually cause more drain on the phone and battery?
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Note, however, that this is still a contested notion. A lot of developers (including ROM builder extraordinaire, Cyanogen) will not even look at your bug reports if you're using a task killer. In this humble blogger's opinion, your best bet is to stay away from regular task killer usage entirely.
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i trust the hard fact results of the good it is doing in my phone, rather than some biased believes that just lags the phone if not actioned upon.
I dont know if I would call advice from well known developers as biased. Especially considering several others have shared this setiment. But what ever floats your boat. You are some what of a mr know it all here...
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think about it logically, you do nothing to the phone and it lags like hell
or you can install legit software which easily lets you choose what to run and what not to run
result: system is squeaky clean and snappy fast
vs.
do nothing: system lags like hell, come to the forum complain the phone lags and claim other people are right we should do nothing and have an unusable phone.
Well the lag on my phone is minimal, it actually performs quite well. My phone died without any lag fixes etc, so I am not putting any of that on now. My problem is GPS is useless and the random shutdowns.
Hi, I'm using Cyanogenmod 10.1.2 stable version with the kernel that comes with this release.
I noticed a strange problem, every time I'm saving something to internal memory, phone slows down.
Example: I take a picture and I want to share it via WhatsApp, everything slows down, even gets unresponsive for 20 seconds. The same thing happens when I take a screenshot, or when I download / update any app.
Apart from that, the phone doesn't seem to have any other problems.
suba_ri said:
Hi, I'm using Cyanogenmod 10.1.2 stable version with the kernel that comes with this release.
I noticed a strange problem, every time I'm saving something to internal memory, phone slows down.
Example: I take a picture and I want to share it via WhatsApp, everything slows down, even gets unresponsive for 20 seconds. The same thing happens when I take a screenshot, or when I download / update any app.
Apart from that, the phone doesn't seem to have any other problems.
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The phone isn't the fastest thing in the world but the behavior your describing isn't quite "normal".
For a start, in my opinion the CM native kernel is a little slow, I'm gonna ask you to try Iodak kernel (for now) to see if helps.
Flash 9.5 from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2270308
I'd eventually try an app to measure the IO performance in the internal memory for comparing, but I can't think of an app now (no access to play store atm), so let us know if anything changes after flashing Iodak kernel.
MidnightDevil said:
The phone isn't the fastest thing in the world but the behavior your describing isn't quite "normal".
For a start, in my opinion the CM native kernel is a little slow, I'm gonna ask you to try Iodak kernel (for now) to see if helps.
Flash 9.5 from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2270308
I'd eventually try an app to measure the IO performance in the internal memory for comparing, but I can't think of an app now (no access to play store atm), so let us know if anything changes after flashing Iodak kernel.
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Sorry, I forgot to mention that this kind of behavior happened on stock ROM as well as on CM with Iodak and Werewolf kernel. My friend was using stock CM10 kernel on her phone and everything seemed fast enough so I tried it also but the problem remains.
EDIT:
I ran this benchmark: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.passmark.pt_mobile
My results for internal storage write were 11,9 MBytes/Sec and for reading: 31,7 MBytes/Sec
suba_ri said:
Sorry, I forgot to mention that this kind of behavior happened on stock ROM as well as on CM with Iodak and Werewolf kernel. My friend was using stock CM10 kernel on her phone and everything seemed fast enough so I tried it also but the problem remains.
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Do you notice that behavior only with WhatsApp? Can you give us more examples?
Also, you can use AndroBench (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andromeda.androbench2) and post the results?
I'm thinking that something else is causing the lag, WhatsApp sometimes just hangs on me for a while (also uses sdcard to store logs).
MidnightDevil said:
Do you notice that behavior only with WhatsApp? Can you give us more examples?
Also, you can use AndroBench (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andromeda.androbench2) and post the results?
I'm thinking that something else is causing the lag, WhatsApp sometimes just hangs on me for a while (also uses sdcard to store logs).
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WhatsApp works fine when I'm sending a picture that was previously saved.
This kind of behavior happens also with Kik, Facebook messenger, and in general;
When I update any application, the phone becomes almost unresponsive for 10-20 seconds, every single time.
Here is the screenshot from androbench: https://db.tt/KAoi3zoX
I created this screenshot and it took 10 seconds for the phone to start reacting normally again..
suba_ri said:
WhatsApp works fine when I'm sending a picture that was previously saved.
This kind of behavior happens also with Kik, Facebook messenger, and in general;
When I update any application, the phone becomes almost unresponsive for 10-20 seconds, every single time.
Here is the screenshot from androbench: https://db.tt/KAoi3zoX
I created this screenshot and it took 10 seconds for the phone to start reacting normally again..
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I experienced lots of different behaviors, sometimes even with the same configuration. Becoming unresponsive for a while when updating apps isn't uncommon. I experience that, I'm sure lot's of users around here do. You could try changing the sdcard readahead to 2048 and see if makes a difference (or to 1024, etc..) and see what configuration your friend's phone is using. You can also use Kernel Tuner, Performance Control or any tweaking app which allows you to change governors / cpu frequencies / sdcard readahead to changes these things.
Also, OOM values can also influence the user experience (these can be checked / changes using Kernel Tuner for example).
Will run Androbench soon as I can and i will post and compare.
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Alright here's mine - Although there are differences (specially on the sequential write), I don't think it's exactly that, that is causing your issue.
Can more users do the test with Androbench and post their results ?
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Here is the result from the friends phone:
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From looking at this my phone should even be faster
Looking at the three images, it makes me thing its kinda random almost lol.
Try fstrim from the market... run it.. maybe will help... I'm a little lost here. Need more info.. you saying this happened to every rom you tried?
It happened on stock ROM and on CM 10.1.2 stable (with iodak kernel and with cm kernel).
I didn't try any other ROMs.
I just ordered Nexus 5 and I will give this phone to my brother, so while I'm wiping all the data I can try another ROM if you think that could help..
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It happened on stock ROM and on CM 10.1.2 stable (with iodak kernel and with cm kernel).
I didn't try any other ROMs.
I just ordered Nexus 5 and I will give this phone to my brother, so while I'm wiping all the data I can try another ROM if you think that could help..
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In my opinion, I'd use CM 10.1.2 stable (android 4.2.2), runs fantastic and everything works. If your brother wants to give a go at KitKat, go ahead, but stability? CM10.1.2. For sure.
There's also a couple Stock roms around here and the web, there's one called "JBS (just better stock), google it it's light and fast.
By now many of you might've seen this or a similar article already: SamMobile - Poor RAM management affecting the Galaxy S6 and S6 edge
Disabled apps list in Post #9
From my understanding, the OS is over-aggressively causing apps to close in order to retain some sort of free amount of RAM. Could be a memory leak caused by Lollipop or something else, not sure. And just like the article OP said, unused RAM is wasted RAM on Android because it's Linux. Not Windows. So I'm failing to see the issue.
Have you guys been seeing a direct correlation between low amounts of current RAM and Android closing background apps more aggressively over time?
Have your phones been getting slower?
I'm not saying I found a solution but since running the Debloater tool using my own customized set of "disabled" apps, I have managed to free up about 400-500mb of RAM on average. Again the goal of Android isn't to consistently have tons of free RAM and close all the apps because Android is not Windows. But we have been seeing 3GB of RAM getting easily filled up even just after a reboot (well I have). Our phones shouldn't be using the full 3GB of RAM just after boot even with Touchwiz (especially after Samsung's quest to reduce the bloatedness of Touchwiz).
Those more knowledgeable than I please comment!
Anyway, here is my current RAM usage screenshot after disabling those apps I told you about. Not too shabby and I have noticed a bit zippier speeds, especially from screen off to launcher using the fingerprint lock.
This is the built in Touchwiz "RAM booster" that I accidentally found.
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What apps did you disable, do you have a list handy
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What apps did you disable, do you have a list handy
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I will post the modified list of apps to use with that debloater tool when I get some time to re-review it. Originally I used someone elses list but quickly found out that they basically ripped apart the OS with actually causing any FC's. But they also left out important things like the Play Store and others. I don't want to do that to you guys or myself again.
About 800mb free at the moment. I do notice that it spikes upon wake (from about 800 free to 500 free) but quickly resets back near 800. I don't aggressively close apps or anything else like that, so this is after a whole day of video playback, play music, browsing, and phone/text.
So far I haven't noticed any significant memory leak, or at least one that's affecting performance.
I've seem the ram booster somewhere, but can't find it now. Where did you find it.
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mine is generally 800-900 free with no personal interaction on closing anything. i have never touched that stuff. i have not noticed any sluggishness that would make me check RAM and havent even disabled anything but the Verizon labeled stuff.
not saying a technical look doesnt show an issue but as just using it i have not noticed a problem.
How do we get the app sammobile has?
Verizon didnt give it to us
fletch33 said:
mine is generally 800-900 free with no personal interaction on closing anything. i have never touched that stuff. i have not noticed any sluggishness that would make me check RAM and havent even disabled anything but the Verizon labeled stuff.
not saying a technical look doesnt show an issue but as just using it i have not noticed a problem.
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That's good, so that means it isn't everyone. Or at least you haven't done enough on the phone to cause it to basically consume all of the RAM. I know on my white 32gb Edge that I would often only have 200mb free. But since I exchanged that for my 64gb sapphire things have been better. Not sure why.
Either way I'm going to compile the the list from 119 into much less, maybe 70-80, momentarily. Just as to help debloat.
Here's a better list of apps that can be disabled. I added back in several apps that the majority of people would normally use. There may be some that you wouldn't personally use, but just keep in mind some people do. This isn't the ultimate debloat by any means but it does strip out a lot of stuff while leaving the good stuff in tact. Yes there are a couple Verizon things that I left out because some people do actually want to see their account on their phone, etc.
I hope this helps.
In the program, right click on "read device packages" and go to import and import this text file. MAKE SURE TO UNCHECK ALL OF YOUR PERSONAL APPS OR THEY WILL AUTOMATICALLY GET DISABLED. They will be listed as "base.apk" files.
How did you access a ram booster program on the VZW S6 Edge...? Can't find it anywhere...
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How did you access a ram booster program on the VZW S6 Edge...? Can't find it anywhere...
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I've been using this app All in one Gestures
I have my back button setup to do "kill app" for a long press. And for some reason when I long press it while in the launcher it pulls up the RAM booster. I've not been able to find it anywhere else. It was purely by accident that I found this lol.
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I've been using this app All in one Gestures
I have my back button setup to do "kill app" for a long press. And for some reason when I long press it while in the launcher it pulls up the RAM booster. I've not been able to find it anywhere else. It was purely by accident that I found this lol.
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Good find. I just set the back button up to "kill app" with a single tap. It will bring up the RAM booster if I long press the back button in the launcher also.
One of the most common signs is memory loss, especially forgetting recently learned information. But i don't face this problem yet.
Just read about an update pushing out to EU S6/Edge devices that (reportedly) fix the memory leak issues. No other word on any other changes, but it's only about 140mb so there can't be that many changes.
Never been crazy about positing external links here, so if you're interested in reading about it just Google it.
I've noticed there is a memory leak after using the device for long periods of time, it's becoming a bit slow and closes a lot of apps that it shouldn't.
Also, opening the camera and using it a little, makes all apps to be reloaded.
I honestly don't feel this has 6 gb of ram, Huawei need to solve those issues, let's make them aware
Derpling said:
I've noticed there is a memory leak after using the device for long periods of time, it's becoming a bit slow and closes a lot of apps that it shouldn't.
Also, opening the camera and using it a little, makes all apps to be reloaded.
I honestly don't feel this has 6 gb of ram, Huawei need to solve those issues, let's make them aware
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I'm not sure why no on is replying to you. I have the Mate 20 X and I noticed this as well. All of my apps were refreshing the other day. My Google Podcast app even closed while I was doing something else. And I couldn't even jump back and forth between two apps without them refreshing. Then I started getting a camera error and it wouldn't go away until I rebooted. After rebooting, everything was fine. Rinse and repeat. This has happened to me several times. While it's nice to know that a reboot fixes it, it's a pretty bad memory leak. I have the International model, so I don't see an update coming any time soon.
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I'm not sure why no on is replying to you. I have the Mate 20 X and I noticed this as well. All of my apps were refreshing the other day. My Google Podcast app even closed while I was doing something else. And I couldn't even jump back and forth between two apps without them refreshing. Then I started getting a camera error and it wouldn't go away until I rebooted. After rebooting, everything was fine. Rinse and repeat. This has happened to me several times. While it's nice to know that a reboot fixes it, it's a pretty bad memory leak. I have the International model, so I don't see an update coming any time soon.
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It's not a memory leak.... The data collection buffer gets full, and a reboot resets this. China intelligence FTW.
....... JK
I've noticed that the camera and 3D live maker, kills all apps after 2 minutes of using those.
I remember the gs7e has done the same but camon, it's annoying that I'll open the camera, and everything will be reloaded.
Also besides Hauwei, Google made some improvements to the memory management in Android Pie, that could be also one of the reasons why.
I get non of this and the lack of replies proves the fact it doesn't exist. I have used mine since I received it with zero slow down.
The apps closing is because of the management of apps in the background. You can set the apps manually so they can run in the background.
This is done by "AI" so if you manage them manually you set them to run in the background and they won't get killed.
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I've noticed that the camera and 3D live maker, kills all apps after 2 minutes of using those.
I remember the gs7e has done the same but camon, it's annoying that I'll open the camera, and everything will be reloaded.
Also besides Hauwei, Google made some improvements to the memory management in Android Pie, that could be also one of the reasons why.
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Your phone is faulty or you're trolling. The pixel 3 is crap, what you're describing here doesn't exist!
Having the same issue but I don't think it's a memory leak. Just Huawei agressive style of handling ram/apps.
Phone doesn't like anything not installed by defualt.
the memory management is horrifically aggressive. It'll be the thing that makes me get rid of it if I cant sort it out. I'm assuming this has happened with one of the updates as I've watched youtube videos of this phone being amazing on the speed tests and keeping apps in memory. Assume this was either on a pre-release ROM or an early version that reviewers are most likely to use.
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My phone wont even do play-store automatic updates overnight while charging (like EVERY other phone i've ever had has been able to do).
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I get non of this and the lack of replies proves the fact it doesn't exist. I have used mine since I received it with zero slow down.
The apps closing is because of the management of apps in the background. You can set the apps manually so they can run in the background.
This is done by "AI" so if you manage them manually you set them to run in the background and they won't get killed.
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Your phone is faulty or you're trolling. The pixel 3 is crap, what you're describing here doesn't exist!
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You're the only one trolling here. Are you really such a hardcore fanboy that you're incapable of acknowledging that it could be a different software build? Chinese version vs International? I just got an update on my International model yesterday which may or may not have resolved this. It doesn't mean it wasn't a real issue. I have owned just about every major smartphone since the original iPhone, including all of the Mate phones and I also test them for a living. Some of us are actually speaking from experience, not bias.
Issue is there, but using open camera doesn't kill tasks compared to stock app, so it's hauwei aggressive memory management again.
Not noticed anything here, I sometimes have quite a heavy usage, multiple apps. No unintended closed apps. Phone is always very fast. Looking into the phone manager from time to time there's always 95% free.
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I'm a one app at once guy... so no problem for me, i always close the app after i use it
The memory management on this phone is definitely rather strange. Yes, you can force specific apps to stay prioritized in the background, but it doesn't seem like there are any benefits to the hyper-aggressive method Huawei employs. What I find irritating isn't the way resident apps are juggled, but the way the app you are using acts like it is being starved of ram all the time. I need to try out a bunch of different browsers, so far the few I have been using feel like I am running a 2015 build of Chrome on a Windows machine with 256 Meg of Ram.
Try removing the stock launcher, and you will see a big difference m
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So the stock launcher is the culprit? Any other bloatware that we can remove??
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I'm not sure why no on is replying to you. I have the Mate 20 X and I noticed this as well. All of my apps were refreshing the other day. My Google Podcast app even closed while I was doing something else. And I couldn't even jump back and forth between two apps without them refreshing. Then I started getting a camera error and it wouldn't go away until I rebooted. After rebooting, everything was fine. Rinse and repeat. This has happened to me several times. While it's nice to know that a reboot fixes it, it's a pretty bad memory leak. I have the International model, so I don't see an update coming any time soon.
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I have the exact same problem on my Mate 20 Pro.
Works great after reboot but after using it I sometimes can't even go to switch app mode and return to app without it reloading. Since it is coming with time used I also think it is a memory mangement problem.
I am on EMUI 9.0.0.153
Removing Huawei launcher via ADB, seems to fix some of it, but it's annoying nonetheless
I have the same issue. After using the device for some time, from Developer Options > Running Services, the System portion consumes most of the memory, leaving very little left for cached processes.
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After a reboot, the System memory usages goes down to normal, until normal usage causes it to build up again until another reboot is required.
It definitely looks like some kind of memory leak.
Same issue here. I wish there was a way to schedule a restart overnight.
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Same issue here. I wish there was a way to schedule a restart overnight.
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There is, go to smart assistance then scheduled power on/off...
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There is, go to smart assistance then scheduled power on/off...
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Great thanks! I've now set it to restart every Monday overnight... Let's see how that goes