Hello,
I'm about to get the i9305, I basically got that I need to stay with the samsung roms to have a fully working device with no bugs.
Even though I'm not a fan of touchwiz (in fact I prefer stock Android) I could try some ROMs (not based on stock) but I read that they will never work properly due to lack of sources code. What are the things missing or that will never work?
I'm coming from the LG O2X that drove me crazy cause the stock roms sucked sooo much and we (users) had the same problem but custom roms with NVIDIA!
I'm going with this phone cause it's the only one I know that gives me:
- good battery life among latest smartphones
- 2GB of RAM
- REMOVABLE BATTERY
- 42Mbit in 3G
for that price. So maybe I thought that having touchwiz is the price to pay to have these specs at this price.
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EDIT: WRONG SECTION, CAN SOMEONE MOVE IT TO THE I9305 Q&A ONE? THANK YOU.
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Hit the report button and a mod will move it for you
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Well, most of the ROMs for the Galaxy S3 I9300/I9305 are stable. Because the developers make the ROM based on the official update from Samsung. If you want a stock looking ROM, install ROMs based on AOSP like CyanogenMod, AOKP and Paranoid Android. AOSP ROMs are fast because it is light, no bloatware. AOSP ROMs are quite stable though.
Other than ROMs, there is also some custom kernels, Most of them are also stable. To me, I like the Perseus kernel by AndreiLux because it saves my battery life. The highest I have got are about 2 days unplugged with 5 hours of on screen time.
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for example, camera quality is worse
If I remove bloatware (if possible) from Sammys ROMS will they be as fast?
No problems with Sammy based ROMs, so don't worry. They are stable and smooth. Use Titanium or other (root) uninstaller to remove bloatware! On benchmark tests, you will get lower results comparing to 4.2.2 ROMs, but you won't noticed that in everyday usage! I am the one who loves CM based ROMs, but some problems with network are good reason for not using them at the moment. :fingers-crossed:
you will notice the difference, AOSP ROMs will be smoother than debloated Sammy ROMs, so the choice is yours
but aosp roms will ever show problems on this phone ;(
yes
are the other phones affected too? like i9300 and Note?
yes
Flashing custom roms has pros and cons no matter what the phone.
I just like flashing new roms
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Some AOSP based ROMs have quite a few bugs though, that's keeping me away from them.
Does the LED indicator work on custom roms? Especially CM. I care about notifications mainly.
Everything works like a charm. You can use some free app for more options (I'm using "Light Manager").
I wonder if the recent fixes for the camera released for i9300 will be applied to i9305 as well
herobrine_second said:
Some AOSP based ROMs have quite a few bugs though, that's keeping me away from them.
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Like what? except for camera issues
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I wonder if the recent fixes for the camera released for i9300 will be applied to i9305 as well
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In the latest Sentinel ROM, camera works like a charm!
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In the latest Sentinel ROM, camera works like a charm!
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I was talking about AOSP roms, I believe that is based off Sammy ROMs? You said non-sammy ones have problems with network that it's keeping you away from them
Yeah, I said that, but I am on Sentinel ROM v4.40 at the monent, no matter on that "network problem" I have with all CM 10.1 ROMs.
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I have used Galaxy SL and am using Galaxy Note.
Many people were and are complaining about Stock Roms, either ICS or GB for both of the phones I use.
They say that Camera has a pink problem, GPS does not lock quickly, Video recording is not good, it is laggy, etc etc.
But same people are dying for CM Roms which have lots of bugs. Even CM 7.2 has wifi and video recording bugs for i9003.
Even stock Roms do not have those problems, and many latest stock roms are really good, people are not happy with them.
I do not see any reason to mention about Note stock Roms, especially ICS kernels and roms. They are very very stable without any bugs.
However, many people bricked their phones while they are trying to flash CM10 to their Notes.
OK. I accept that one year old stock roms were not good as much as they should be. But this is not the case anymore.
But still many people are ready to die for CM even if it has many bugs. They complain for stock but lose themselves for CM
Now, could someone please explain me what makes CM Roms that better? And even if they have lots of bugs people are using them as daily driver?
Regards
Maybe just for fun
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You obviously have not tried Paranoid Android.
ardicli2000 said:
I have used Galaxy SL and am using Galaxy Note.
Many people were and are complaining about Stock Roms, either ICS or GB for both of the phones I use.
They say that Camera has a pink problem, GPS does not lock quickly, Video recording is not good, it is laggy, etc etc.
But same people are dying for CM Roms which have lots of bugs. Even CM 7.2 has wifi and video recording bugs for i9003.
Even stock Roms do not have those problems, and many latest stock roms are really good, people are not happy with them.
I do not see any reason to mention about Note stock Roms, especially ICS kernels and roms. They are very very stable without any bugs.
However, many people bricked their phones while they are trying to flash CM10 to their Notes.
OK. I accept that one year old stock roms were not good as much as they should be. But this is not the case anymore.
But still many people are ready to die for CM even if it has many bugs. They complain for stock but lose themselves for CM
Now, could someone please explain me what makes CM Roms that better? And even if they have lots of bugs people are using them as daily driver?
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CM(At least CM9) is really quite stable on the note, I have never had any problems with it.
I personaly use it as my daily drive for a few reasons:
I find it gives better battery life
I Love the stock ICS look over samsungs touchwiz
CM9 uses much less RAM giving more ram for apps, giving better multitasking and also much more RAM for running a linux GUI
I have used CM roms since my HTC magic CyanogenMod 4 FTW! (infact I might have been running early than that but I really dont remember)
personally ive used CM builds but never felt like ive wanted to use them as my daily drivers because they just lack too many built in features of the stock rom
im not the type of person to get a stripped down rom and download 1000 apps to make it how i want it
id rather use the stock rom, only download 10 apps and have everything there
Mainly it uses a safe kernel which is emmc cap erase command disabled which prevents from our device from bricking.
In CM(/AOSP/AOKP most of the logging/Samsung crap applications were removed so that your phone runs fast. Its just about 140-160 MB. You can feel the difference in size. lol
Its very stable compared to other roms.
You will see a lot of features put it up in rom.
Etc Etc
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You obviously have not tried Paranoid Android.
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1+ touchwiz is only a great ui until you experience something different, something greater.
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as said from other users, best ROM for the International N7000 Galaxy Note is the ParanoidAndroid
I was using aosp in my smaller phones. Galaxy s2 for example because i can mod them like changong dpi and so on, and the stock rpms for gs2 were so bad, but with my new note i think the stock roms are more stable and battery friendly than aosp, also yhe kernel development for aosp isn't so great as fow TW Roms, and this my 1st reason to use stock, you know i was flashing 2-3 kernels/day in my s2
BTW: You can remove all crap in the stock rom to have agood rolunning rom.
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I was using aosp in my smaller phones. Galaxy s2 for example because i can mod them like changong dpi and so on, and the stock rpms for gs2 were so bad, but with my new note i think the stock roms are more stable and battery friendly than aosp, also yhe kernel development for aosp isn't so great as fow TW Roms, and this my 1st reason to use stock, you know i was flashing 2-3 kernels/day in my s2
BTW: You can remove all crap in the stock rom to have agood rolunning rom.
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I think in the same way also.
CM lacks lots of stuff from Samsung craps. That's OK. butn it also lack lots of thing I daily use.
Besides I tried ADW Launcher. It really sucks. Nova is far more better and smoother.
Also some people claim that it drains less battery and it is fast. It is obvious that they did not use Notecore v9 with TW
I thas been 1 day and I still have %70 battery. And can't tell how awesome it is. Just check the thread...
As for ram, my phone uses ram between 500-600 mb. There are still 200 mb rams. Which is fine and enough for me.
Also it is really easy to remove some crappy stuff from samsung when you are rooted. (to be rooted takes only three minutes or maybe less )
It is OK some people like it and use it. I am of course fine with that.
But what I mean is CM is not superior to stock or TW based Roms, at least not anymore...
Regards.
But I cannot understand why people like stcok roms with some modification
its all personal preference.
like spen/ intevration of pen and samsung apps use stock
like rom to be close to android original source and above mentioned advantages use cm9/aoskp. you wont have full spen and other samsung apps.
whichever you like
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baz77 said:
its all personal preference.
like spen/ intevration of pen and samsung apps use stock
like rom to be close to android original source and above mentioned advantages use cm9/aoskp. you wont have full spen and other samsung apps.
whichever you like
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Then the answer is that people prefer it because of their preferences
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No matter what rom i try, i always end up going back to CM.
The main reason i'm on CM is for the speed and the features.
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CM = AOSP. AOSP = Android how it was designed and intended to be.
For me, User Interface is the most important factor in choosing the OS. Android was far behind iOS and WP7. It changed since ICS and now JB made it even better than iOS. Pure awesomeness of WP7 interface is a whole other story, not commenting on the OS itself - its UI is simply amazing. Back to UI preferences...It has to be responsive, fast and well designed ( that means visually attractive and coherent ). For example, TouchWiz is terrible for me, it makes my phone look like cheap chinese rip-off. I'm sorry, that's just my opinion, i don't want to offend anyone. The only overlay i like is Sony's TimeScape, although i still prefer AOSP. Why ? Simply because it's better designed, coherent and smoother - so it makes my user experience a lot more satisfying.
For the Note, best ROM is still Paranoid Rom for me. Firstly because of the safe kernel and secondly I can easily overclock and under volt it without much hassles.
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Well it all depends...when I had the captivate Cm9 was by far the best experience. So I came to the note with the same expectations but sadly cm9 and the likes are still not on par with Samsung ROMs in speed or features.
I still flash newer versions as I expect them to be better at some point but at this time..still not there. I use CleanNote Rom.
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For the Note, best ROM is still Paranoid Rom for me. Firstly because of the safe kernel and secondly I can easily overclock and under volt it without much hassles.
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Hello all
i have just been given a samsung galaxy note and would like to know your opinions on the fastest custom ROMS/Kernals ideally i am interested
in speed and battery life. what experiences have you guys had with modding your galaxy notes ?
any feedback as to your opinions of different ROMS is appreciated
-Cheers lads
The predictable Cyanogen answer with all based on Cyanogen.
Easy to flash, stock, fast, light on the battery, has the cooler stock Android ICS look. CM10 coming 'round the corner with JellyBean.
Not recommended for those that love TouchWiz and things like S-Memo.
Well at first i was scared of flashing CM based roms cuz i thought i.d loose s.memo.....but then i took the plunge n believe me m really happy with it.....
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fistofthenorth said:
Hello all
i have just been given a samsung galaxy note and would like to know your opinions on the fastest custom ROMS/Kernals ideally i am interested
in speed and battery life. what experiences have you guys had with modding your galaxy notes ?
any feedback as to your opinions of different ROMS is appreciated
-Cheers lads
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You may please search the forum, as a ROM poll is going on.
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uafridi_1179 said:
Well at first i was scared of flashing CM based roms cuz i thought i.d loose s.memo.....but then i took the plunge n believe me m really happy with it.....
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You've got a few S-Pen tuned alternatives, like Papyrus. But the gain in performance and battery is really good when you compare it to TouchWiz ROMs. Adding the fact that IT'S SAFE, meaning you can flash/wipe all you want (the CM team did a WAY better job than Samsung on that) and...the choice is pretty obvious for me, really...
If you're going to look into TouchWiz ROMs, make sure you either choose one with a safe kernel included or flash a safe kernel afterwards (I think speedmod...??? Not really sure though, you'll have to research that)
Im using Criskelo v9 rom with GL- Notecore v8.1 (OC) kernel,everything working as it should and the speed is awesome as far as battery goes ive only been running the kernel a few days and it seems ok. I charge my phone every night so battery life is no issue here.Everbody's usage differs tho, if your after longer battey life i wouldnt opt for an OC kernel.
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Definitely the wrong forum to post this but..
STAXX Paranoid Android -- Best ROM to date.
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You've got a few S-Pen tuned alternatives, like Papyrus. But the gain in performance and battery is really good when you compare it to TouchWiz ROMs. Adding the fact that IT'S SAFE, meaning you can flash/wipe all you want (the CM team did a WAY better job than Samsung on that) and...the choice is pretty obvious for me, really...
If you're going to look into TouchWiz ROMs, make sure you either choose one with a safe kernel included or flash a safe kernel afterwards (I think speedmod...??? Not really sure though, you'll have to research that)
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Actually S-memo and the other sammy apps for the s-pen are better than the likes of papyrus and other apps. So for those who want/need s-memo stick with touchwiz based roms.
you guys can get angry with me but im honest to my heart,...as of now there is no rom that is completely good..im going back to gb
all tw ics roms have one major problem: SCROLLING aint smooth enough( ive tried em all)..they stutter like hell!!
and cm9 roms arent that great for battery life...
cm 10 aint fully functional...
all in all i hate it that samsung has created a wonderful device with awesome specs but totally screwed the software releases throughout...to make it even worse is black clipping!!.. im just irritated with this device, dont feel like owning a premium device...im about to sell it hopefully note 2 is better coz the spen and screen size are unbeatable!!!
Stock ROM is the best.
Hi your best option is to go for a Touchwiz rom which you can highly customize during installation. Chrack's and Criskelo are very good fully customizable rooms. They come with Aroma installation to let you remove a lot of bloat ware before installation.
Touchwiz roms also have the best kernels around. Like Note core and Speed mod. These give a very significant improvement in speed n battery. Of course cyanogen based roms r good. But the prob is u will be lacking some native drivers Samsung has integrated into the roms for the best performance. For ex, divx support is there by default, NTFS file format for SD card can be achieved, better drivers for display n graphics etc.
Touchwiz roms can crush cyanogen roms in benchmarks as well. Cyanogen can seem very smooth and fluid. But with the right launcher (apex or nova) u can easily give the rom a stock ICS feel as well. Hope this helped. Cheers
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The best ROM is the one that works best for you on your phone. Try a few out and decide for yourself.
And posts like this never belong in Development.
What are the benefits of installing JB on an i9000?
I'm aware the FM radio on JB doesn't work and some other function too....then, it seems that all the sleek design of the new ROM will slow CPU speed - surely, is it worth bothering to install the latest ROMs on near outdated smartphones like the i9000?
I've stumbled on the JW4 stock and represent a worthy alternative to Gingerbread 2.3 - then for the sleek look I'm considering some themes....
Have I missed some relevant facts about the JB 4.2 on the i9000? Right now, I wouldn't bother.
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What are the benefits of installing JB on an i9000?
I'm aware the FM radio on JB doesn't work and some other function too....then, it seems that all the sleek design of the new ROM will slow CPU speed - surely, is it worth bothering to install the latest ROMs on near outdated smartphones like the i9000?
I've stumbled on the JW4 stock and represent a worthy alternative to Gingerbread 2.3 - then for the sleek look I'm considering some themes....
Have I missed some relevant facts about the JB 4.2 on the i9000? Right now, I wouldn't bother.
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Try it and see everything run at 60fps most of the time. It's smoother than my Galaxy S3.
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Try it and see everything run at 60fps most of the time. It's smoother than my Galaxy S3.
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For as far as I know, Cyanogenmod never really got Project Butter off the ground on Samsung devices running Exynos processors, like the i9000. I'm running 4.1 Cyanogenmod as well, and it does seem a tad more smooth, but I've no idea if that's because of Project Butter, or just the fact that it's a very nice android version.
I've just tested JB 4.2....nice and sleek look but not Swipe and what happened to my external SD? no "My File" is found so I can't search...no wonder when I check Storage on Settings gives me an error. The Camera also seems very limited (have I missed something?).
Exactly as I initially thought....
All this hype to get the latest ROMs are mostly superficial fads with no substance - good only for greedy developers and bored teenagers in search of new trills to impress their mates - nah, I like using Swipe and FM radio (and searching my files) - back to JW4.
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The Camera also seems very limited (have I missed something?).
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Yeah. They came up with a neat intuitive interface with 4.2 but stripped out so many features. Honestly who in the right mind thought it was a great idea to get rid of the timer option. I used the 4.2 camera for about a day before I just rolled back to the 4.1 camera
You're comparing a ROM that's barely even alpha. Try CM10 4.1.2 stable. That will give you a better idea of what cyanogenmod is capable of. And you can still install Swype. I'm using it right now.
And don't be a troll, it's not very nice
CM10 powered by Mackay kernel
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I've just tested JB 4.2....nice and sleek look but not Swipe and what happened to my external SD? no "My File" is found so I can't search...no wonder when I check Storage on Settings gives me an error. The Camera also seems very limited (have I missed something?).
Exactly as I initially thought....
All this hype to get the latest ROMs are mostly superficial fads with no substance - good only for greedy developers and bored teenagers in search of new trills to impress their mates - nah, I like using Swipe and FM radio (and searching my files) - back to JW4.
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So what's the intention of this thread then?
Try Mackay ROM or CM10. Both are stable and fluid and you will be happy with them. But if you don't even know how to install Swype you should probably stick to stock.
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Android jelly bean is fantastic because it is faster and smoother. To solve the problem of radio you should download spirit fm radio light that is NOT a streaming app, but uses the FM radio receiver installed by Samsung on Galaxy.
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So what's the intention of this thread then?
Try Mackay ROM or CM10. Both are stable and fluid and you will be happy with them. But if you don't even know how to install Swype you should probably stick to stock.
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in fact I've bothered to install swype by myself - never had to do before the "upgrade"?
An upgrade should include all the best functions - swype represents in my opinion the best way to input text - go figure why the developers forgot about it.
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Android jelly bean is fantastic because it is faster and smoother. To solve the problem of radio you should download spirit fm radio light that is NOT a streaming app, but uses the FM radio receiver installed by Samsung on Galaxy.
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ok, if the FM radio isn't lost then this might save the bacon...the future is radio via data or podcasting but when traveling abroad it might be useful to use FM radio to save data roaming (and power too).
I've tested 4 new ROMs (in 2 days): aosp, aokp, xbean, cm10 - the camera has lost many functions - still, the Galaxy doesn't even offer a flash - so, no big deal there.
The JW4 I'm using right now seems faster than any of the JB tested, but I agree about the new ROMs being smoother and more stylish.
The DSP on offer might be worth upgrading...
There are too many new functions which are a bit too geeky and many customizations are a bit OTT (reminds me of some linux distros)...so, I might be tempted to opt for Slim Bean (jelly bean without the fat)....still, I'll wait a few months
no videocall facility
I belive the custom Roms not support videocall fascilty, (correct me,If I am wrong). But rest everything is OK in JB Roms.
I have tried more than 4 ROMs including latest 4.2, None of othem having videocall button not integrated with .
But there are improvements in audio & video perfomance compare to Stock GB ROM.
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I belive the custom Roms not support videocall fascilty, (correct me,If I am wrong). But rest everything is OK in JB Roms.
I have tried more than 4 ROMs including latest 4.2, None of othem having videocall button not integrated with .
But there are improvements in audio & video perfomance compare to Stock GB ROM.
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Video calling is fine for me on JB.
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Seriously the sms quick reply function is by itself reason enough to go JellyBean.
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Hr Kristian said:
Seriously the sms quick reply function is by itself reason enough to go JellyBean.
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GoSMS supply the same functionality since long ago.
Can JB camera save to external SD? Try saving HD video on limited 8 GB internal storage
U should try "c-rom Mix v8" or "mckay rom build158 or 161,in my opinion its the two best roms available in JB,in McKay's build there is a small difference in smoothness between the two builds..
C-rom v8 is my favorite,its d... good
Just Because...
Because we can. You, good sir, are asking the wrong question..LOL Why wouldn't you want the latest version of android on existing hardware? It is like having the best of both worlds. New Software, same phone.
Imagine putting windows 8 on a 486, and having it run smoothly. That will never happen.... with android on the other hand... okay, perhaps a little exaggeration there, but you get the idea. (Unless you are to young to remember a 486,)
For me personally, it negates the need to buy a $500 - $600 phone, just to have the latest version of software.
I do however, understand your point of view. I hope that I have answered your question thoroughly.
My swype on 4.2.1 works fine. I do have an sdcard 0/1 bug. I consider that perfectly acceptable, in this scenario.
Panorama camera feature is neat. Although it is not something that I can see myself using a whole lot.
Jeremy
I think the choice belongs to everyone to flash JB...or not.
I tried but i'am back on GB with the sauRom V2. The BEST rom ever flashed on my phone ! ! !
I have tried Miui, Cyanogen, Ics, JB...... None of those roms compares to SauRom in my opinion.
Really worth a try ! Smooth, fast, stable, Very good battery life ! !
Since i'am using it, no need to flash anymore !
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GoSMS supply the same functionality since long ago.
Can JB camera save to external SD? Try saving HD video on limited 8 GB internal storage
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Last I checked the Go apps have ads or cost money. This is free, lightweight, and imo, perfect.
Yep, my 4.1.2 cam had external save location, silly my upgraded to 4.2.1 cam and lost it though x)
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Curriosity
Simple!
How much longer can our I9000 still be alive with the newest Android version?
That's most peoples reason for keep on flashing - or at least mine
JB drains battery so fast!
My experience, the battery drains so so fast. I tried some ROMS with JB and I went back to ICS.
I'm a noob when it comes to Android roms and such.
I have a rooted samsung galaxy s infront of me now but I have a question.
I have read that a lot of roms disable a couple of original features, like the google play store, video camera etc.
Now my question; Is there a custom rom that gives you anything like android 4.0+ for example with no features being lost?
Yes I have heard about CM but I read that it does remove a couple of features which I need..
What features will you miss? Play store and video work perfectly on cm10 and 10.1 based ROMs plus they trend to have lots of extra features compared to stock. I'm running Mackay ROM based on jelly bean 4.2 (cm 10.1) with semaphore kernel. Stable and really fast.
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I'm using RemICS-JB_4.2 , and for me it is very stable and fast, UI is from SGS3, worth to try...
The mackay rom is very good
So it's just a myth that you will lose some stock functions? Don't trust me on my word but I think I've read that it removes HD filming or something.
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You can enable xl ram (around 400 mb) in some kernels such as semaphore and devil which can mean you loose hd video, but by default it is disabled in almost all ROMs. So if you leave ram alone it's not a problem and I still have 720p video. Tbh there is a patch now that makes 720 work with big ram anyhow, but I manage just fine with the 389mb standard with semaphore so I haven't tested this.
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So Semaphore kernel and CM as ROM leaves all normal features intact? Perfect. Just one last question; a lot of people prefer CM9 over CM10. Any specific reason for this?
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So Semaphore kernel and CM as ROM leaves all normal features intact? Perfect. Just one last question; a lot of people prefer CM9 over CM10. Any specific reason for this?
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Because CM9 is more stable. CM10 requires more resources to run on our old phones.You might not get enough RAM.I also noticed some games force closed on CM10.But they all work nicely in CM9.
Thanks for the answers.
Something popped in my head so that leaves me with 1 more question; I currently have hardcore speedmod kernel and I did the lagfix (transfer to EXT4) and it took some SD space of course. Now before I go to Semaphore kernel should I first somehow uninstall the lagfix? And how?
Thanks!
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Because CM9 is more stable. CM10 requires more resources to run on our old phones.You might not get enough RAM.I also noticed some games force closed on CM10.But they all work nicely in CM9.
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This is becoming less of an issue as development goes on but it is a factor to consider. I have to overclock cpu to get high end games to work. But you can't even install most of them on stock 2.3 so depends what you're after. I prefer the extra features that cm 10.1 gives. Can always flash to cm9 stable and give it a go and then upgrade from there, sensible to go to cm9 then 10 anyhow. You will have to full wipe between 9 and 10 though. So titanium backup is the best app you will ever install.
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I'll just loan this thread a bit because I have a similar situation. I've only changed ROMs few times and I'm kinda noob myself too. I'm looking for a fast and stable ROM. Few days ago I installed ELITEMOVILS:s 4.2.1 galaxy nexus stock rom. It's good but cant get the wifi working properly so I thought I'd try another one. Should I go for JB 4.1.2 or for 4.2.1? Are the 4.1.2 releases more stable and is there a big difference in features and speed? Also battery life is quite important factor for me when choosing ROM (BTW has anyone found a good replacement battery with longer battery life than the stock one?). I dont update ROMs that frequent so it would be important that the release would be stable and functioning.
Slim Roms are pretty lightweight 4.2.1 beta 1 for me has been pretty stable and responsive. I also downloaded and flashed Semaphore 2.9.0s afterwards.
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Samiboi said:
I'll just loan this thread a bit because I have a similar situation. I've only changed ROMs few times and I'm kinda noob myself too. I'm looking for a fast and stable ROM. Few days ago I installed ELITEMOVILS:s 4.2.1 galaxy nexus stock rom. It's good but cant get the wifi working properly so I thought I'd try another one. Should I go for JB 4.1.2 or for 4.2.1? Are the 4.1.2 releases more stable and is there a big difference in features and speed? Also battery life is quite important factor for me when choosing ROM (BTW has anyone found a good replacement battery with longer battery life than the stock one?). I dont update ROMs that frequent so it would be important that the release would be stable and functioning.
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4.1.2 should be more stable than 4.2.1 as its been developed longer and even has gotten the official stable version released.
4.2 does bring some new features like all new releases but not as major as for example 4.1 brought, for this reason Google decided to keep the Jellybean name for the newer version.
Regarding battery life your best bet is a Gingerbread ROM, but frankly I'm satisfied with my CM10 in that regard.
I'm using a Pisen 1700mAh battery, and its very good for its price,I bought it from Deal Extreme, but be careful to research a battery before buying any, most of them are horrible and can even break your phone in some cases.
It's been said an official 1800mAh battery meant for the Epic 4g (Carrier-locked Samsung Galaxy S2) fits our phone even though it's thicker; I just bought one myself, but it's being shipped from the US and I'm in Norway so it'll be a week before I could confirm that myself...
The Wi-Fi issue with 4.2 is known and pawitp had released a fix for it, I don't know if the current nightlies from the CM team have incorporated it
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i m using X-bean 3.0. very good rom. stable.
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4.1.2 should be more stable than 4.2.1 as its been developed longer and even has gotten the official stable version released.
4.2 does bring some new features like all new releases but not as major as for example 4.1 brought, for this reason Google decided to keep the Jellybean name for the newer version.
Regarding battery life your best bet is a Gingerbread ROM, but frankly I'm satisfied with my CM10 in that regard.
I'm using a Pisen 1700mAh battery, and its very good for its price,I bought it from Deal Extreme, but be careful to research a battery before buying any, most of them are horrible and can even break your phone in some cases.
It's been said an official 1800mAh battery meant for the Epic 4g (Carrier-locked Samsung Galaxy S2) fits our phone even though it's thicker; I just bought one myself, but it's being shipped from the US and I'm in Norway so it'll be a week before I could confirm that myself...
The Wi-Fi issue with 4.2 is known and pawitp had released a fix for it, I don't know if the current nightlies from the CM team have incorporated it
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Thx for the reply. I just installed Slim Bean 4.2.1. Beta 2 six hours ago and so far I've liked it very much. WLAN working too. I think I'll change to 4.1.2. if I still encounter problems. I'll take a look at the DX battery. Please tell us how it went with the Epic 4g battery when u get to test it
Thread closed. Everytime I see a "Best ROM/kernel thread, I die a little inside.
Since Lg updated the o4x to 4.1.2, wouldn't it be great to have this modded Into cm and make a final release with everything working, I've been trying so many roms but non exceed stock reliability, I think that a port from stock to cm based with everything working would be great for all users, truth I don't care about android version, but cm experience is great. Maybe instead of working on forever bugged ROMs with no official android release, try using the base of what lg has released and make a rock solid ROM featuring cm experience.
Just my thoughts,
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leortez said:
Since Lg updated the o4x to 4.1.2, wouldn't it be great to have this modded Into cm and make a final release with everything working, I've been trying so many roms but non exceed stock reliability, I think that a port from stock to cm based with everything working would be great for all users, truth I don't care about android version, but cm experience is great. Maybe instead of working on forever bugged ROMs with no official android release, try using the base of what lg has released and make a rock solid ROM featuring cm experience.
Just my thoughts,
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In My opinion roms are not "forever bugged"; what one dev, or a team of devs do with a custom rom is... customising.
What you are asking for is steadyness, immobility, what devs do is pushing the limit of knowledge a step further and develop something new that did not exist before under the form in which it is now.
In addition, custom roms are made also to compensate the lacking of development from the original manufacturer. LG supoorted the development of their firmware up to ver 1.2, custom roms are 4.2.2, o 4.3 already and take advantage of many powerful feature in our device that could be better used if the device would not be abandoned by the manufacturer.
Mind that i am not against the fact that phones are forgotten by their manufacturer one o two years after they have been presented, it is a market law... still, with custom roms we can enjoy our highly priced toys for many, many years and, yes, have a lot of fun with them. Sometimes roms are buggy, it is true, but i believe that if one is here, in this forum, it should be to contribute to make things better, and not for complaining about (free) buggy roms.
In addition, CM needs very few contribution from LG base, as it is AOSP based, that is, pure Android, with no fancy UI and bloatware, and current official stable version 10.1.3 (corresponding to Android 4.2.2) is rock solid, or at least, not more buggy than LG 4.1.2.
I dont question development, im a cm and custom kernels fan myself, but what I mean is that there are no significant differences between the jellybean versions, 4.1.2 is quite good in my opinion, and I'm not complaining either, but I have not seen a cm implementation based on 4.1.2. Thing is that for this phone there is a critical bug that many people can't stand independent from performance or how beautiful, etc. Which is present in both 4.2.2 and 4.3 And that is baseband being very unstable. I keep rebooting my phone 2-3 times a day to get back signal and data.Tested with all kernels. Which I believe this is not a kernel related problem. So I think that if we use cm 4.1.2 this issue could be solved.
By no means I discard the efforts that Devs. Have put into this phone, I'm just giving an idea that could be worth taking in consideration.
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Try SlimBean latest demetris build.Or zaiben rom.I get great battery life with both of them and almoust none baseband wakelock.Even if it is there it doesnt reflect on battery life that much anymore.
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Ottonet said:
In My opinion roms are not "forever bugged"; what one dev, or a team of devs do with a custom rom is... customising.
What you are asking for is steadyness, immobility, what devs do is pushing the limit of knowledge a step further and develop something new that did not exist before under the form in which it is now.
In addition, custom roms are made also to compensate the lacking of development from the original manufacturer. LG supoorted the development of their firmware up to ver 1.2, custom roms are 4.2.2, o 4.3 already and take advantage of many powerful feature in our device that could be better used if the device would not be abandoned by the manufacturer.
Mind that i am not against the fact that phones are forgotten by their manufacturer one o two years after they have been presented, it is a market law... still, with custom roms we can enjoy our highly priced toys for many, many years and, yes, have a lot of fun with them. Sometimes roms are buggy, it is true, but i believe that if one is here, in this forum, it should be to contribute to make things better, and not for complaining about (free) buggy roms.
In addition, CM needs very few contribution from LG base, as it is AOSP based, that is, pure Android, with no fancy UI and bloatware, and current official stable version 10.1.3 (corresponding to Android 4.2.2) is rock solid, or at least, not more buggy than LG 4.1.2.
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Nothing is ever as stable as Stock. And with Root, you can remove bloatware, with xposed you can change the ui etc. etc.
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I dont question development, im a cm and custom kernels fan myself, but what I mean is that there are no significant differences between the jellybean versions, 4.1.2 is quite good in my opinion, and I'm not complaining either, but I have not seen a cm implementation based on 4.1.2. Thing is that for this phone there is a critical bug that many people can't stand independent from performance or how beautiful, etc. Which is present in both 4.2.2 and 4.3 And that is baseband being very unstable. I keep rebooting my phone 2-3 times a day to get back signal and data.Tested with all kernels. Which I believe this is not a kernel related problem. So I think that if we use cm 4.1.2 this issue could be solved.
By no means I discard the efforts that Devs. Have put into this phone, I'm just giving an idea that could be worth taking in consideration.
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You are right, if we built CM9 (ICS) or CM10 (JB4.1.2) these would probably be better on the battery, and with official drivers etc, it would be stable. (in theory)
dimi89 said:
Try SlimBean latest demetris build.Or zaiben rom.I get great battery life with both of them and almoust none baseband wakelock.Even if it is there it doesnt reflect on battery life that much anymore.
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He is asking about CM10, in all honesty, CM10.1 is just an improved CM10, there are not many differences in all honesty.. It is obsolete now anyways, so 4.4 is going to be prioritized, CM10.1 and above have more to offer, i don't think CM10 will ever be developed for our device, it is too old now.
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Nothing is ever as stable as Stock. And with Root, you can remove bloatware, with xposed you can change the ui etc. etc.
Well, CM10.1 is rock stable. Never had a random reboot, and trust me, I was tetsing my kernel on it pretty heavily
You are right, if we built CM9 (ICS) or CM10 (JB4.1.2) these would probably be better on the battery, and with official drivers etc, it would be stable. (in theory)
You can't just take official drivers on CM. You might be able to do so on AOSP, but I'm pretty sure it won't have an effect. Actually I think it would make it even unstable
He is asking about CM10, in all honesty, CM10.1 is just an improved CM10, there are not many differences in all honesty.. It is obsolete now anyways, so 4.4 is going to be prioritized, CM10.1 and above have more to offer, i don't think CM10 will ever be developed for our device, it is too old now.
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Well, If i happen to have some spare time (pretty unlikely though ATM), I might try to compile CM10, but you better do not expect it TBH
Not sure what TBH means but It would be great to give it a shot, hoping it will work better than the newer versions.
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leortez said:
I dont question development, im a cm and custom kernels fan myself, but what I mean is that there are no significant differences between the jellybean versions, 4.1.2 is quite good in my opinion, and I'm not complaining either, but I have not seen a cm implementation based on 4.1.2. Thing is that for this phone there is a critical bug that many people can't stand independent from performance or how beautiful, etc. Which is present in both 4.2.2 and 4.3 And that is baseband being very unstable. I keep rebooting my phone 2-3 times a day to get back signal and data.Tested with all kernels. Which I believe this is not a kernel related problem. So I think that if we use cm 4.1.2 this issue could be solved.
By no means I discard the efforts that Devs. Have put into this phone, I'm just giving an idea that could be worth taking in consideration.
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How do I reproduce these bugs?I dont seem to notice them.
leortez said:
I dont question development, im a cm and custom kernels fan myself, but what I mean is that there are no significant differences between the jellybean versions, 4.1.2 is quite good in my opinion, and I'm not complaining either, but I have not seen a cm implementation based on 4.1.2. Thing is that for this phone there is a critical bug that many people can't stand independent from performance or how beautiful, etc. Which is present in both 4.2.2 and 4.3 And that is baseband being very unstable. I keep rebooting my phone 2-3 times a day to get back signal and data.Tested with all kernels. Which I believe this is not a kernel related problem. So I think that if we use cm 4.1.2 this issue could be solved.
By no means I discard the efforts that Devs. Have put into this phone, I'm just giving an idea that could be worth taking in consideration.
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I had all those signal bugs, but in the latest nightly of 4.3.1 that bug is near to be solved, it still happens but less often than before, in the past since CM10 RC5 I suffered that annoying bug, and i stoped using CM based ROMS, the problem is not the kernel, the problem is the RIL programmed by CM developer team, and for lucky for us they have been worked on our problem, I passed of reboot my phone every 20 or 30 min to reboot once or none per day when the phone can't get signal again