Since Lg updated the o4x to 4.1.2, wouldn't it be great to have this modded Into cm and make a final release with everything working, I've been trying so many roms but non exceed stock reliability, I think that a port from stock to cm based with everything working would be great for all users, truth I don't care about android version, but cm experience is great. Maybe instead of working on forever bugged ROMs with no official android release, try using the base of what lg has released and make a rock solid ROM featuring cm experience.
Just my thoughts,
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Since Lg updated the o4x to 4.1.2, wouldn't it be great to have this modded Into cm and make a final release with everything working, I've been trying so many roms but non exceed stock reliability, I think that a port from stock to cm based with everything working would be great for all users, truth I don't care about android version, but cm experience is great. Maybe instead of working on forever bugged ROMs with no official android release, try using the base of what lg has released and make a rock solid ROM featuring cm experience.
Just my thoughts,
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In My opinion roms are not "forever bugged"; what one dev, or a team of devs do with a custom rom is... customising.
What you are asking for is steadyness, immobility, what devs do is pushing the limit of knowledge a step further and develop something new that did not exist before under the form in which it is now.
In addition, custom roms are made also to compensate the lacking of development from the original manufacturer. LG supoorted the development of their firmware up to ver 1.2, custom roms are 4.2.2, o 4.3 already and take advantage of many powerful feature in our device that could be better used if the device would not be abandoned by the manufacturer.
Mind that i am not against the fact that phones are forgotten by their manufacturer one o two years after they have been presented, it is a market law... still, with custom roms we can enjoy our highly priced toys for many, many years and, yes, have a lot of fun with them. Sometimes roms are buggy, it is true, but i believe that if one is here, in this forum, it should be to contribute to make things better, and not for complaining about (free) buggy roms.
In addition, CM needs very few contribution from LG base, as it is AOSP based, that is, pure Android, with no fancy UI and bloatware, and current official stable version 10.1.3 (corresponding to Android 4.2.2) is rock solid, or at least, not more buggy than LG 4.1.2.
I dont question development, im a cm and custom kernels fan myself, but what I mean is that there are no significant differences between the jellybean versions, 4.1.2 is quite good in my opinion, and I'm not complaining either, but I have not seen a cm implementation based on 4.1.2. Thing is that for this phone there is a critical bug that many people can't stand independent from performance or how beautiful, etc. Which is present in both 4.2.2 and 4.3 And that is baseband being very unstable. I keep rebooting my phone 2-3 times a day to get back signal and data.Tested with all kernels. Which I believe this is not a kernel related problem. So I think that if we use cm 4.1.2 this issue could be solved.
By no means I discard the efforts that Devs. Have put into this phone, I'm just giving an idea that could be worth taking in consideration.
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Try SlimBean latest demetris build.Or zaiben rom.I get great battery life with both of them and almoust none baseband wakelock.Even if it is there it doesnt reflect on battery life that much anymore.
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Ottonet said:
In My opinion roms are not "forever bugged"; what one dev, or a team of devs do with a custom rom is... customising.
What you are asking for is steadyness, immobility, what devs do is pushing the limit of knowledge a step further and develop something new that did not exist before under the form in which it is now.
In addition, custom roms are made also to compensate the lacking of development from the original manufacturer. LG supoorted the development of their firmware up to ver 1.2, custom roms are 4.2.2, o 4.3 already and take advantage of many powerful feature in our device that could be better used if the device would not be abandoned by the manufacturer.
Mind that i am not against the fact that phones are forgotten by their manufacturer one o two years after they have been presented, it is a market law... still, with custom roms we can enjoy our highly priced toys for many, many years and, yes, have a lot of fun with them. Sometimes roms are buggy, it is true, but i believe that if one is here, in this forum, it should be to contribute to make things better, and not for complaining about (free) buggy roms.
In addition, CM needs very few contribution from LG base, as it is AOSP based, that is, pure Android, with no fancy UI and bloatware, and current official stable version 10.1.3 (corresponding to Android 4.2.2) is rock solid, or at least, not more buggy than LG 4.1.2.
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Nothing is ever as stable as Stock. And with Root, you can remove bloatware, with xposed you can change the ui etc. etc.
leortez said:
I dont question development, im a cm and custom kernels fan myself, but what I mean is that there are no significant differences between the jellybean versions, 4.1.2 is quite good in my opinion, and I'm not complaining either, but I have not seen a cm implementation based on 4.1.2. Thing is that for this phone there is a critical bug that many people can't stand independent from performance or how beautiful, etc. Which is present in both 4.2.2 and 4.3 And that is baseband being very unstable. I keep rebooting my phone 2-3 times a day to get back signal and data.Tested with all kernels. Which I believe this is not a kernel related problem. So I think that if we use cm 4.1.2 this issue could be solved.
By no means I discard the efforts that Devs. Have put into this phone, I'm just giving an idea that could be worth taking in consideration.
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You are right, if we built CM9 (ICS) or CM10 (JB4.1.2) these would probably be better on the battery, and with official drivers etc, it would be stable. (in theory)
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Try SlimBean latest demetris build.Or zaiben rom.I get great battery life with both of them and almoust none baseband wakelock.Even if it is there it doesnt reflect on battery life that much anymore.
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He is asking about CM10, in all honesty, CM10.1 is just an improved CM10, there are not many differences in all honesty.. It is obsolete now anyways, so 4.4 is going to be prioritized, CM10.1 and above have more to offer, i don't think CM10 will ever be developed for our device, it is too old now.
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Nothing is ever as stable as Stock. And with Root, you can remove bloatware, with xposed you can change the ui etc. etc.
Well, CM10.1 is rock stable. Never had a random reboot, and trust me, I was tetsing my kernel on it pretty heavily
You are right, if we built CM9 (ICS) or CM10 (JB4.1.2) these would probably be better on the battery, and with official drivers etc, it would be stable. (in theory)
You can't just take official drivers on CM. You might be able to do so on AOSP, but I'm pretty sure it won't have an effect. Actually I think it would make it even unstable
He is asking about CM10, in all honesty, CM10.1 is just an improved CM10, there are not many differences in all honesty.. It is obsolete now anyways, so 4.4 is going to be prioritized, CM10.1 and above have more to offer, i don't think CM10 will ever be developed for our device, it is too old now.
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Well, If i happen to have some spare time (pretty unlikely though ATM), I might try to compile CM10, but you better do not expect it TBH
Not sure what TBH means but It would be great to give it a shot, hoping it will work better than the newer versions.
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I dont question development, im a cm and custom kernels fan myself, but what I mean is that there are no significant differences between the jellybean versions, 4.1.2 is quite good in my opinion, and I'm not complaining either, but I have not seen a cm implementation based on 4.1.2. Thing is that for this phone there is a critical bug that many people can't stand independent from performance or how beautiful, etc. Which is present in both 4.2.2 and 4.3 And that is baseband being very unstable. I keep rebooting my phone 2-3 times a day to get back signal and data.Tested with all kernels. Which I believe this is not a kernel related problem. So I think that if we use cm 4.1.2 this issue could be solved.
By no means I discard the efforts that Devs. Have put into this phone, I'm just giving an idea that could be worth taking in consideration.
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How do I reproduce these bugs?I dont seem to notice them.
leortez said:
I dont question development, im a cm and custom kernels fan myself, but what I mean is that there are no significant differences between the jellybean versions, 4.1.2 is quite good in my opinion, and I'm not complaining either, but I have not seen a cm implementation based on 4.1.2. Thing is that for this phone there is a critical bug that many people can't stand independent from performance or how beautiful, etc. Which is present in both 4.2.2 and 4.3 And that is baseband being very unstable. I keep rebooting my phone 2-3 times a day to get back signal and data.Tested with all kernels. Which I believe this is not a kernel related problem. So I think that if we use cm 4.1.2 this issue could be solved.
By no means I discard the efforts that Devs. Have put into this phone, I'm just giving an idea that could be worth taking in consideration.
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I had all those signal bugs, but in the latest nightly of 4.3.1 that bug is near to be solved, it still happens but less often than before, in the past since CM10 RC5 I suffered that annoying bug, and i stoped using CM based ROMS, the problem is not the kernel, the problem is the RIL programmed by CM developer team, and for lucky for us they have been worked on our problem, I passed of reboot my phone every 20 or 30 min to reboot once or none per day when the phone can't get signal again
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I have used Galaxy SL and am using Galaxy Note.
Many people were and are complaining about Stock Roms, either ICS or GB for both of the phones I use.
They say that Camera has a pink problem, GPS does not lock quickly, Video recording is not good, it is laggy, etc etc.
But same people are dying for CM Roms which have lots of bugs. Even CM 7.2 has wifi and video recording bugs for i9003.
Even stock Roms do not have those problems, and many latest stock roms are really good, people are not happy with them.
I do not see any reason to mention about Note stock Roms, especially ICS kernels and roms. They are very very stable without any bugs.
However, many people bricked their phones while they are trying to flash CM10 to their Notes.
OK. I accept that one year old stock roms were not good as much as they should be. But this is not the case anymore.
But still many people are ready to die for CM even if it has many bugs. They complain for stock but lose themselves for CM
Now, could someone please explain me what makes CM Roms that better? And even if they have lots of bugs people are using them as daily driver?
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Maybe just for fun
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You obviously have not tried Paranoid Android.
ardicli2000 said:
I have used Galaxy SL and am using Galaxy Note.
Many people were and are complaining about Stock Roms, either ICS or GB for both of the phones I use.
They say that Camera has a pink problem, GPS does not lock quickly, Video recording is not good, it is laggy, etc etc.
But same people are dying for CM Roms which have lots of bugs. Even CM 7.2 has wifi and video recording bugs for i9003.
Even stock Roms do not have those problems, and many latest stock roms are really good, people are not happy with them.
I do not see any reason to mention about Note stock Roms, especially ICS kernels and roms. They are very very stable without any bugs.
However, many people bricked their phones while they are trying to flash CM10 to their Notes.
OK. I accept that one year old stock roms were not good as much as they should be. But this is not the case anymore.
But still many people are ready to die for CM even if it has many bugs. They complain for stock but lose themselves for CM
Now, could someone please explain me what makes CM Roms that better? And even if they have lots of bugs people are using them as daily driver?
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CM(At least CM9) is really quite stable on the note, I have never had any problems with it.
I personaly use it as my daily drive for a few reasons:
I find it gives better battery life
I Love the stock ICS look over samsungs touchwiz
CM9 uses much less RAM giving more ram for apps, giving better multitasking and also much more RAM for running a linux GUI
I have used CM roms since my HTC magic CyanogenMod 4 FTW! (infact I might have been running early than that but I really dont remember)
personally ive used CM builds but never felt like ive wanted to use them as my daily drivers because they just lack too many built in features of the stock rom
im not the type of person to get a stripped down rom and download 1000 apps to make it how i want it
id rather use the stock rom, only download 10 apps and have everything there
Mainly it uses a safe kernel which is emmc cap erase command disabled which prevents from our device from bricking.
In CM(/AOSP/AOKP most of the logging/Samsung crap applications were removed so that your phone runs fast. Its just about 140-160 MB. You can feel the difference in size. lol
Its very stable compared to other roms.
You will see a lot of features put it up in rom.
Etc Etc
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You obviously have not tried Paranoid Android.
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1+ touchwiz is only a great ui until you experience something different, something greater.
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as said from other users, best ROM for the International N7000 Galaxy Note is the ParanoidAndroid
I was using aosp in my smaller phones. Galaxy s2 for example because i can mod them like changong dpi and so on, and the stock rpms for gs2 were so bad, but with my new note i think the stock roms are more stable and battery friendly than aosp, also yhe kernel development for aosp isn't so great as fow TW Roms, and this my 1st reason to use stock, you know i was flashing 2-3 kernels/day in my s2
BTW: You can remove all crap in the stock rom to have agood rolunning rom.
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I was using aosp in my smaller phones. Galaxy s2 for example because i can mod them like changong dpi and so on, and the stock rpms for gs2 were so bad, but with my new note i think the stock roms are more stable and battery friendly than aosp, also yhe kernel development for aosp isn't so great as fow TW Roms, and this my 1st reason to use stock, you know i was flashing 2-3 kernels/day in my s2
BTW: You can remove all crap in the stock rom to have agood rolunning rom.
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I think in the same way also.
CM lacks lots of stuff from Samsung craps. That's OK. butn it also lack lots of thing I daily use.
Besides I tried ADW Launcher. It really sucks. Nova is far more better and smoother.
Also some people claim that it drains less battery and it is fast. It is obvious that they did not use Notecore v9 with TW
I thas been 1 day and I still have %70 battery. And can't tell how awesome it is. Just check the thread...
As for ram, my phone uses ram between 500-600 mb. There are still 200 mb rams. Which is fine and enough for me.
Also it is really easy to remove some crappy stuff from samsung when you are rooted. (to be rooted takes only three minutes or maybe less )
It is OK some people like it and use it. I am of course fine with that.
But what I mean is CM is not superior to stock or TW based Roms, at least not anymore...
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But I cannot understand why people like stcok roms with some modification
its all personal preference.
like spen/ intevration of pen and samsung apps use stock
like rom to be close to android original source and above mentioned advantages use cm9/aoskp. you wont have full spen and other samsung apps.
whichever you like
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baz77 said:
its all personal preference.
like spen/ intevration of pen and samsung apps use stock
like rom to be close to android original source and above mentioned advantages use cm9/aoskp. you wont have full spen and other samsung apps.
whichever you like
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Then the answer is that people prefer it because of their preferences
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No matter what rom i try, i always end up going back to CM.
The main reason i'm on CM is for the speed and the features.
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CM = AOSP. AOSP = Android how it was designed and intended to be.
For me, User Interface is the most important factor in choosing the OS. Android was far behind iOS and WP7. It changed since ICS and now JB made it even better than iOS. Pure awesomeness of WP7 interface is a whole other story, not commenting on the OS itself - its UI is simply amazing. Back to UI preferences...It has to be responsive, fast and well designed ( that means visually attractive and coherent ). For example, TouchWiz is terrible for me, it makes my phone look like cheap chinese rip-off. I'm sorry, that's just my opinion, i don't want to offend anyone. The only overlay i like is Sony's TimeScape, although i still prefer AOSP. Why ? Simply because it's better designed, coherent and smoother - so it makes my user experience a lot more satisfying.
For the Note, best ROM is still Paranoid Rom for me. Firstly because of the safe kernel and secondly I can easily overclock and under volt it without much hassles.
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Well it all depends...when I had the captivate Cm9 was by far the best experience. So I came to the note with the same expectations but sadly cm9 and the likes are still not on par with Samsung ROMs in speed or features.
I still flash newer versions as I expect them to be better at some point but at this time..still not there. I use CleanNote Rom.
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For the Note, best ROM is still Paranoid Rom for me. Firstly because of the safe kernel and secondly I can easily overclock and under volt it without much hassles.
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Which kernel do you use for over clocking?
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First things first. This is NOT a "Which ROM is the best".
I want to know which version of Android under any circumstances, and almost specifically about specifications, will, does, or should run best on a Rogers i896 captivate. I have tried many different roms ranging from 2.2, 2.3, 2.3.3, 2.2.3, 4.01, 4.03, 4.1.1 etcetc and so far here are my observations:
The higher up in version, the better the battery life was, but the more glitches/issues/(sometimes lag) I encountered.
For the more technical people: Which version of android should run best on a Captivate considering things like bootloader etc (stuff I know nothing about).
Again, I'm not asking what ROM is better, and I understand that every ROM is different, but I want this from a technical standpoint!
Okay, thanks for taking the time to read the above paragraph and I'm looking forward to the knowledge.
For me, version 2.3.7 (CM 7.2) runs the best. Just bone stock CM. But then again that might be because I don't use this phone that often but it feels like it just runs better.
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ICS runs so much faster. Slim ICS is probably the quickest. Devil kernel is a fast kernel. Put em together!
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mikey199 said:
ICS runs so much faster. Slim ICS is probably the quickest. Devil kernel is a fast kernel. Put em together!
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Well, I admit that you might be right. My particular captivate never ran ICS or JB without performance problems, but that is just from my personal experience.
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I would like to know too. I put cm10 on my gfs phone and have had problems. What are most used gingerbread roms? I have looked through the forums but can't find anything solid, others input would help alot I had an epic myself just got gs3. The most stable daily I ran on my epic was 2.3.7. Would like something for her she doesn't ***** about.
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I never ran 4.0.x due to fear of the notorious "encryption unsuccessful" bug, so I can't comment on that one, but now running 4.1.2 (Slim Bean 2.7) and it is definitely smoother, faster, and more stable than any 2.3.x ROM ever was for me. My GB ROMs used to slow down and eventually hang, requiring a reboot every 2-3 days. 4.1.x has never done that-- it just runs and runs. It's so good, it has pretty much cured my previous thoughts of upgrading to a new phone.
As for the bootloaders, they only matter during boot, as the name implies. After that, they don't matter. Just make sure you have the GB bootloaders and you can use any ROM you want.
slim bean 2.7 works wonders for me and so did the previous version. Skip google now and you will be golden, at least form my experience.
Google now runs really bad on my phone as well. I wonder why it uses so much ram, it doesn't seem to be doing so much.
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slim bean 2.7 works wonders for me and so did the previous version. Skip google now and you will be golden, at least form my experience.
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Google now runs really bad on my phone as well. I wonder why it uses so much ram, it doesn't seem to be doing so much.
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I reverted to the standard Google Search. I find that it has more usefulness. Google Now seemed really cool, but in practice, I don't have much use for it.
RJ287 said:
First things first. This is NOT a "Which ROM is the best".
I want to know which version of Android under any circumstances, and almost specifically about specifications, will, does, or should run best on a Rogers i896 captivate. I have tried many different roms ranging from 2.2, 2.3, 2.3.3, 2.2.3, 4.01, 4.03, 4.1.1 etcetc and so far here are my observations:
The higher up in version, the better the battery life was, but the more glitches/issues/(sometimes lag) I encountered.
For the more technical people: Which version of android should run best on a Captivate considering things like bootloader etc (stuff I know nothing about).
Again, I'm not asking what ROM is better, and I understand that every ROM is different, but I want this from a technical standpoint!
Okay, thanks for taking the time to read the above paragraph and I'm looking forward to the knowledge.
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There is no specific version that runs naturally better. The smoothness of the rom depends on the developer and what changes he/she made to stock. No version of android after Froyo is naturally better than the others. While it is true that new versions of android bring new features, a good rom will run well regardless of version. This is the reason that stock is usually much more stable than custom roms. Stock is built for stability, so this boils down to which rom works best on your phone and with your preferences. The glitches and lag happen because most of the newer versions of android were never actually released for the captivate, so developers are porting from other sources. Another reason for glitches and lag is the limitations of captivate hardware. There is a reason why it does not receive any updates from samsung anymore. In samsung's eyes the phone's hardware has reached its potential. The captivate was released about 2 years ago, so according to Moore's law the software being released today is for devices that are 2 times more powerful. The fact that jelly bean is able to run at all on this phone is a feat to be proud of so kudos to the developers.
Also, bootloader does not have that much of an impact on performance. The bootloader is just the code that "loads the boot", or turns on the phone. The only thing that changing bootloader affects is compatibility with certain roms.
PS-I know some of the things seem unconnected to your original question, but I wanted to help you completely understand my answer.
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There is no specific version that runs naturally better. The smoothness of the rom depends on the developer and what changes he/she made to stock. No version of android after Froyo is naturally better than the others. While it is true that new versions of android bring new features, a good rom will run well regardless of version. This is the reason that stock is usually much more stable than custom roms. Stock is built for stability, so this boils down to which rom works best on your phone and with your preferences. The glitches and lag happen because most of the newer versions of android were never actually released for the captivate, so developers are porting from other sources. Another reason for glitches and lag is the limitations of captivate hardware. There is a reason why it does not receive any updates from samsung anymore. In samsung's eyes the phone's hardware has reached its potential. The captivate was released about 2 years ago, so according to Moore's law the software being released today is for devices that are 2 times more powerful. The fact that jelly bean is able to run at all on this phone is a feat to be proud of so kudos to the developers.
Also, bootloader does not have that much of an impact on performance. The bootloader is just the code that "loads the boot", or turns on the phone. The only thing that changing bootloader affects is compatibility with certain roms.
PS-I know some of the things seem unconnected to your original question, but I wanted to help you completely understand my answer.
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Pretty much... I would have to say after using the Captivate on all versions except Eclair that Gingerbread runs the best. Not stock Gingerbread, but CM7 Gingerbread. While ICS/JB feel fast and smooth because of the hardware acceleration and nice animations, the system feels much slower overall and is often subjected to lag/lockups (partially due to things mentioned by the previous post). Things like Google now and Chrome were almost unusable for me. I would attribute the Gingerbread affinity due to the fact that the Captivate and Nexus S are very close hardware-wise, and that hardware was designed to run Gingerbread. CM7 was very fast, and if it weren't for the appearance of GB compared to JB, I would have stuck with it.
The stock gingerbread was getting worse by the day that's why I convinced her to put a rom on it. I never touched anything beyond gingerbread on my epic because I needed the phone to work for work. I will look into a gingerbread rom for stability.
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RJ287 said:
First things first. This is NOT a "Which ROM is the best".
I want to know which version of Android under any circumstances, and almost specifically about specifications, will, does, or should run best on a Rogers i896 captivate. I have tried many different roms ranging from 2.2, 2.3, 2.3.3, 2.2.3, 4.01, 4.03, 4.1.1 etcetc and so far here are my observations:
The higher up in version, the better the battery life was, but the more glitches/issues/(sometimes lag) I encountered.
For the more technical people: Which version of android should run best on a Captivate considering things like bootloader etc (stuff I know nothing about).
Again, I'm not asking what ROM is better, and I understand that every ROM is different, but I want this from a technical standpoint!
Okay, thanks for taking the time to read the above paragraph and I'm looking forward to the knowledge.
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I'D say SlimBean with sovaphone or somting kernal
can you guys tell me which is the best modem for battery use and best rom and kernel for battery am using slim 2.7 latest with stock kernel semophrne something i would appreciate if you guys share you experience
xtremists said:
can you guys tell me which is the best modem for battery use and best rom and kernel for battery am using slim 2.7 latest with stock kernel semophrne something i would appreciate if you guys share you experience
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Modem depends on geographical location, and the rest depends on what works best for your phone. That should be a decent setup though.
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ICS
For pure battery life I think Fasty KK4 was an excellent Gingerbread. I remember actually being blown away by the battery life.
As far as great performance, Team Nyx ICSSGS was the most rock solid! AOSP 4.0 was light and really fast with decent battery life. All in all, I would say that is my overall favorite of the roms I've run through the ol' cappy.
ICS arrived ,source code as well ... why nothing is happening in terms of new ROMs, kernels etc. ... Where did our developers gone ???
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You can blame the no audio bug for that. It's so random and at the same time crippling that no further development can begin until it's taken care of.
New and better phones probably, and with the persistent call bug getting the way i wouldnt blame them.
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ICS arrived ,source code as well ... why nothing is happening in terms of new ROMs, kernels etc. ... Where did our developers gone ???
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I wouldn't call support weak... yes it has diminished since last year but that's true of many handsets - some devs sell or give away their old ones and move on to brand spanking new models (especially at the end of a contract). Plus, LG's reputation is making things worse.
Ricardo Cerqueira is still hard at work on the official CM10, and we have lots of people making modified versions of stock ICS or even CM10 derivations. Just not as many as during the CM7 days, but again, that should not be a surprise for any phone.
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You can blame the no audio bug for that. It's so random and at the same time crippling that no further development can begin until it's taken care of.
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That is only part of the problem, and not the biggest part, IMO... See, the stock ICS doesn't seem to have this bug, plain and simple. At least, I have yet to see a single report of it on a clean stock V30A. However, all custom ICS/JB ROMs that currently exist use either non-original bootloader, or the old GB partition layout, or both (you can also add a custom recovery to this equation). If someone would create a custom ICS ROM based on the new partition layout AND the new original bootloader, I am pretty certain it would be free of this particular bug. The problem is that the new bootloader is locked. Can someone crack it to unlock? I hope so, but so far the only unlocked bootloader by wkpark actually comes from SU660... ArCee and the CM team are trying to make it all work with the old BL and partition layout, and the other devs either follow suit (take a ROM by tonyp and Harsh as an example), or trying to make something based on the new partition layout, but with an unlocked SU660 bootloader. What I am waiting for is someone capable of unlocking the new original bootloader from P990 V30A.
I am not a dev, so it's just my uneducated opinion, but the logic here is really simple: the in-call audio bug exists only when you introduce non-original components...
xalix -- as regards to a "weaker support", I am disappointed about it myself... It doesn't mean I am complaining, because I just can't expect, let alone demand something from any developer -- they will do what they can (and what they want to do), in their due time. But yes, there is not a lot of activity right now, for a number of reasons. You are not the first to bring this up, some people already commented on it. Some good developers, like Topogigi, moved on to other devices (and some are probably planning to), some just left XDA (Stefan is gone, and he was one of the most active contributors when it comes to stock-based ROMs), some don't have enough expertise in particular areas (Carburano has been making wonderful DM ROMs, but he is admitting it would take him time to get the kernel tweaking going without others' help)... All in all, it's kinda slow now, yes. Frankly, I am not the biggest fan of CM ROMs (just couldn't get myself to like CM7, even though some people swear by it, or unofficial CM9 varieties), and would much rather have a tweaked stock as opposed to a CM, no matter the version. So, I am waiting for some progress, but I am not holding my breath at this time... Good thing is that the official stock V30A is working quite well for me, so I am just using my phone without problems, all the while waiting for some nice stable ROM...
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ICS arrived ,source code as well ... why nothing is happening in terms of new ROMs, kernels etc. ... Where did our developers gone ???
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Yes, unfortunately I agree with you.
Stephan went out of xda because his fight about commits, and then topo, who was following stephan's work, sold his o2x. Then the kernel source was released and until now not a single stock rom with custom kernel compiled with p990 sources.
It's very sad. I would love to see just some gueste_ICS, but sometimes I think that people are more interested in following the rules than making it work.
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I don't understand why but devs still love this phone. So no point saying weaker support. Its the weak support from LG. And, the bootloader can be unlocked. We just need the ramdisk source and we are good to go
I agree with you louiscypherbr
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Yes, unfortunately I agree with you.
Stephan went out of xda because his fight about commits, and then topo, who was following stephan's work, sold his o2x. Then the kernel source was released and until now not a single stock rom with custom kernel compiled with p990 sources.
It's very sad. I would love to see just some gueste_ICS, but sometimes I think that people are more interested in following the rules than making it work.
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Since Stefan has gone i to miss Gueste_Ics im still using Stefans V28E as a daily driver, its a best rom i have seen no lgas no audio bugs, works smooth, i don't understand 1 thing as still the audio bug is there in CM10, we should give time to RC to fix the audio bug, but till then why the dev is not trying to use AOKP or building the custom modified stock rom with a custom kernel as the source are out, from past 1 year we are waiting for LG to release ICS and source now both are out but we are still waiting, don't know how much we have to wait more.
Plz God Give O2X Users More Patients Coz We Need It Desperately :angel:
I'm thinking about getting this ROM. It's kind of overwhelming considering there seem to be SOO many JB Roms. But are there any that work 100%? They don't outright say in the OPs what works/doesn't work.
100% of what? jb is still evolving, as there is now a second edition/version of jellybean.
my oinion: If you want a good reliable jb rom, then try cm10.0 stable. it is android 4.1.2 and totally good for day to day use.
If you want the later, jb 4.2.1, you can try cm10.1 monthly or nightly build. it is mostly stable.
Well, the AOSP one (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013285) is considered the purest JB, but I don't think you'll get any dev to claim that his or her ROM is 100% working. It's intrinsic to the development of ROMs. Developer creates a ROM, tests it as best he can, posts it, users find issues, developer(s) fix issues, test again, post again etc. etc. It is really advisable to read around in the respective threads to see which issues have been found and delt with. I think that all current JB ROMs will cover basic functionality an average user would want, together with a zillion tweaks to stretch the hardware to the limit, be it good battery life, 3d gaming and other features devs and users come up with.
so I say: read around and try some of the different flavours, stick with the one that you prefer..
Works great.
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I'm thinking about getting this ROM. It's kind of overwhelming considering there seem to be SOO many JB Roms. But are there any that work 100%? They don't outright say in the OPs what works/doesn't work.
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It is as Perfect as stable, Get CM10.1 Nightly 20130208 with gapps 121212, And really Its awesome..
So far Sephi's ROM is the one I keep going back to. I was on Aosp by Ace of spades but that project is no longer being updated. It still runs really well but I'm a flasher.
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I have used CM7, CM9 and CM10 on the captivate and all worked well, but recently switched to SlimBean 4.2.1 and it is much smoother. With CM10 my battery drained quicker and the phone was often warm when used for a long period(playing games, etc), but I don't have this problem with Slim
Hello,
I'm about to get the i9305, I basically got that I need to stay with the samsung roms to have a fully working device with no bugs.
Even though I'm not a fan of touchwiz (in fact I prefer stock Android) I could try some ROMs (not based on stock) but I read that they will never work properly due to lack of sources code. What are the things missing or that will never work?
I'm coming from the LG O2X that drove me crazy cause the stock roms sucked sooo much and we (users) had the same problem but custom roms with NVIDIA!
I'm going with this phone cause it's the only one I know that gives me:
- good battery life among latest smartphones
- 2GB of RAM
- REMOVABLE BATTERY
- 42Mbit in 3G
for that price. So maybe I thought that having touchwiz is the price to pay to have these specs at this price.
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EDIT: WRONG SECTION, CAN SOMEONE MOVE IT TO THE I9305 Q&A ONE? THANK YOU.
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Hit the report button and a mod will move it for you
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Well, most of the ROMs for the Galaxy S3 I9300/I9305 are stable. Because the developers make the ROM based on the official update from Samsung. If you want a stock looking ROM, install ROMs based on AOSP like CyanogenMod, AOKP and Paranoid Android. AOSP ROMs are fast because it is light, no bloatware. AOSP ROMs are quite stable though.
Other than ROMs, there is also some custom kernels, Most of them are also stable. To me, I like the Perseus kernel by AndreiLux because it saves my battery life. The highest I have got are about 2 days unplugged with 5 hours of on screen time.
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for example, camera quality is worse
If I remove bloatware (if possible) from Sammys ROMS will they be as fast?
No problems with Sammy based ROMs, so don't worry. They are stable and smooth. Use Titanium or other (root) uninstaller to remove bloatware! On benchmark tests, you will get lower results comparing to 4.2.2 ROMs, but you won't noticed that in everyday usage! I am the one who loves CM based ROMs, but some problems with network are good reason for not using them at the moment. :fingers-crossed:
you will notice the difference, AOSP ROMs will be smoother than debloated Sammy ROMs, so the choice is yours
but aosp roms will ever show problems on this phone ;(
yes
are the other phones affected too? like i9300 and Note?
yes
Flashing custom roms has pros and cons no matter what the phone.
I just like flashing new roms
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Some AOSP based ROMs have quite a few bugs though, that's keeping me away from them.
Does the LED indicator work on custom roms? Especially CM. I care about notifications mainly.
Everything works like a charm. You can use some free app for more options (I'm using "Light Manager").
I wonder if the recent fixes for the camera released for i9300 will be applied to i9305 as well
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Some AOSP based ROMs have quite a few bugs though, that's keeping me away from them.
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Like what? except for camera issues
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I wonder if the recent fixes for the camera released for i9300 will be applied to i9305 as well
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In the latest Sentinel ROM, camera works like a charm!
Harthouse said:
In the latest Sentinel ROM, camera works like a charm!
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I was talking about AOSP roms, I believe that is based off Sammy ROMs? You said non-sammy ones have problems with network that it's keeping you away from them
Yeah, I said that, but I am on Sentinel ROM v4.40 at the monent, no matter on that "network problem" I have with all CM 10.1 ROMs.