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[Q] replacing glass (very unique question)

Good afternoon,
I dropped my bionic the other day shattering the glass. I don't have the 100 for insurance so I was looking for a quick way out till I replaced it.
Now, I know I can buy the glass/digitizer online, I even have the how-tos.
This is where my question gets unique. My coworker just out of the blue handed me his broken bionic. It was water damaged a few months ago.
Could I take the glass from this and put it on mine?? Or would it not work because of his damage? Could I rewire my good wires to his glass? I just figured free fix is better than sitting on a broken phone. Just don't know if it will work or not.
Ideas?
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Well unless water penetrated the display (which, I think, I think, is a fairly well sealed unit) you should be able to use it. If your friend already gave it to you, just try it out
I mean, attempting to power on the unit with a potentially water logged display can't be any riskier than a cracked one imo
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The display on mine works great, just spiderwebbed glass. I would only really need the glass for it.
I am hoping it works, just don't want to waste (x) hours on my phone to have to turn around and take it apart again haha
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Ohh ok, well, i'm certainly no expert on phone repair, I do know that the digitizer is a sealed unit, so, unless it stayed under water for a very very long time, I can't personally see why it wouldn't work for you
However, to be on the safe side and avoid wasting hours of your time (cause it does suck wasting time IMO) I'd hold up for a more experienced opinion.
sorry I couldn't be more assertive in my input
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Replacing the digitizer on the Bionic is incredibly simple, the only thing you need to be cardful with is removing the motherboard - be sure to pry the bottom away from teh LCD (small amount of weak adhesive there), because the digitizer cables (there are 2) run between the LCD and the board, so if you pull the LCD and the board out together, there's a pretty good chance of snapping those cables. Even easier than trying to swap digitizers is to just swap motherboards and LCDs. You might not even need to switch LCDs, but water isn't easy on them, so it's safe to assume that the water damaged one is trashed.
Anyway, all you need is a T4 screwdriver and about 15 minutes. The only other minor difficult area is the earpiece speaker area, but all in all, this is one of the simplest phones I've ever worked on.

Yeah it doesn't seem like a hard phone to work on. Just hope all the water damaged pieces work alright with this phone. I'll post up when I get home with results
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Just google the ifixit for bionic its only 11 screws and 2 ribbon wires

I know how to do it. That's not what this thread is about. Haha.
The whole reason for this thread was would a digitizer from a water logged phone work as a suitable replacement for my screen.
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Worked great, new screen is on, all the connections are solid!
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Congrats
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Nexus 7 Screen separation Fix

Here it is! Just got my Nexus 7 but a really bad surprise waited me. As soon as I opened the box, I experienced the "screen separation" issue that a lot of people had. I tried to look on the web for a real permanent fix as Google's supply are not able to bet me an exchange/RMA that would not require to open the back of the device. I had tried to get the screws tighten without success, I also tried to put spacers in between the screws without success also.. :crying:
I read a lot about fixing this issue; one was explaining how to make the CPU/GPU running and generating heat to get the glue to hold the screen and case together. So I was sitting there watching my battery temp going up to 32-35C/90-95F as my meal was in the oven at 190C/375F. Then I got this great idea. I stopped the stress test, put the tablet in power off state and placed it face down on TOP of the hot spot of the oven; in between the two front elements. I put weigh on top of it and waited about 30-40 min. After that period, I started "Stability Test" available on the Play Store to get the battery temp that was around 47C/115F. I stopped the oven and let it sit for the night face down with weigh on top of it to cool it off. Next morning, surprise! The screen was finally glued. I had no screen seperation since then. It's now being my 5th day without any problem.
Conclusion : FIXED !! :laugh:
Let me know if that worked for you as well !

A heat gun would probably be easier and safer, glad it worked though.
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Thanks! Worked on mine too!
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Interesting idea, hadn't heard that one before. Of course, different stoves will have different hot spots from the oven, so YMMV. How much weight did you put on top of it? Also, do you happen to have a way of measuring how hot the spot gets?
I'd be interested to see if this is a truly permanent solution or if the adhesive starts to break down again after a few weeks or months.

bushpilotwannabe said:
Interesting idea, hadn't heard that one before. Of course, different stoves will have different hot spots from the oven, so YMMV. How much weight did you put on top of it? Also, do you happen to have a way of measuring how hot the spot gets?
I'd be interested to see if this is a truly permanent solution or if the adhesive starts to break down again after a few weeks or months.
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I placed my hand over and touched it.. If the "hot spot" was couple of degres higher, I wouldn't be able to let my hand sit there.. I was at the limit.. For the weight, I used casino's pot full of change.. 2x 8 pounds..

caublet said:
I placed my hand over and touched it.. If the "hot spot" was couple of degres higher, I wouldn't be able to let my hand sit there.. I was at the limit.. For the weight, I used casino's pot full of change.. 2x 8 pounds..
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Good to know. Different people seem to have different thresholds for heat (for instance, I remember as a kid I couldn't keep my hands under the same water my mom used to wash dishes), but the spot on my stove doesn't seem to run as hot as you described, so I'd be willing to try it if I run into this issue on my replacement.
All in all, though, I like this idea a lot. There's always a risk, but I'm sure the devices are stress tested with the CPU running at temps hotter than you could reproduce using this method (short of actually putting it inside the oven). As long as you can hold your hand on the spot without it getting too unbearable, I would think it's pretty safe to try.

mario24601 said:
Thanks! Worked on mine too!
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lmao.

Is there any way that we could just use our better glue to stick the screen tight regardless of the heat when playing games?
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SoHaunted said:
lmao.
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abitzsong said:
Is there any way that we could just use our better glue to stick the screen tight regardless of the heat when playing games?
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I'm interested in this too. What about a very tiny amount of super glue on top of the old adhesive?

regarding heat-guns .... do you think a hairdryer would get hot enough/ too hot etc? I'm keen to try this but dont want to mess it up.
I'm on my 2nd N7 and have screen lift again

eager27 said:
regarding heat-guns .... do you think a hairdryer would get hot enough/ too hot etc? I'm keen to try this but dont want to mess it up.
I'm on my 2nd N7 and have screen lift again
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Have you tried the washer trick? That defiantly did the job for me. :good:

I dix tried but had no real results
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I dix tired the washer trick with no luck i guess..
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This is a confirmed solution

Its not the separation that annoys me... its the creaking sound...
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shocking discovery- missing screws in nexus 7
Long story short:
1st device from best buy : scar like dead pixels, exchanged for second
2nd device from best buy: loose screen/ seperation
Got 3rd device from staples hoping it is better, noticed screen noticeably yellower, minimal seperation problem.
At my last resort, opened up the 2nd and 3rd device, found 3 screws missing from the right side when faced down(or left when screen is up). While the 3rd device is missing one,
. I am so shocked this is happening....no wonder my screen is so loose.
I m a first timer with android device. Own an iphone . Gotta say jelly bean and even the nexus 7 itself is spectacular. But what is with Asus? Have google picked the wrong partner. Or is it is pure poor quality control. Unbelievable.
Follow MW on Twitter for pics to come soon @domlee2010

caublet said:
I stopped the stress test, put the tablet in power off state and placed it face down on TOP of the hot spot of the oven; in between the two front elements.
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Okay, so just to make sure what you people do:
1. Heat up the oven
2. Find the hotspot
3. Switch oven off, wait until hot to touch (that'd be a bit over 60C)
4. Switch unit off
5. Put the unit on the hot spot with about 16 pounds (8 kilos) of pressure on top (really?)
6. Wait until it has cooled down naturally
Am I missing anything? How has the fix held for you so far after a month or more?
Thanks, :cyclops:

Did not work for me.
I heated the device to 80C with a hairdryer, then pressed it with clamps (force equal to about 9kg) for about 7 hours.
Separation came back about 1 hour after I released the clamps without turning the device on.
Too bad, as I have no way to exchange it.
I guess I'll just use the case.

5 minute epoxy (or any glue one's comfortable with) is the way to go. The problem is obvious once the bevel is removed - the glue on the left side on my device had cured without holding the glass. Hard to believe heating and pressing would work at all.
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Camera ring

OK so today I pulled my phone out of my pocket and oddly enough, the silver ring around my lens was stuck to my case. (I like to keep my phone protected. Sue me.) It was glued on (cheaply) and wasn't even metal.
Has anyone else had this happen?
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No, my ring is intact

Same happened to me, after 2weeks. Now the back is ugly
I dont use a case btw, i dont know when.i t fell of, it was just gone.
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I lost the ring at the audio Port. Luckily I'm getting a new one in a few days (due to a other malfunction in the device which they can't fix, so I'm just getting a new one xD)
Now I'm hoping it will still have unlockable boatloader!
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I pulled my phone out of my pocket yesterday to find the camera ring stuck to my finger, grrrr it is just cheap plastic, I was able to stick it back on at the time but fear the initail adhesive has been comprimised it will only be a matter of time before this disappears. But to me fair I dont think the phone with the ring missing affects the asthetics of the device in too significant a way.

I agree completely on this. The phone is beautiful enough, IMO. The ring is simply an accessory. I was just wondering who else has had this happen.
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The 'metal' ring around the camera lens of my Xperia T fell off too. Unfortunately, I didn't notice it happen, so it's now missing.
I contacted Sony Support via a web chat - they wanted me to send it in for service, but it is too much hassle for a cosmetic problem - I was hoping they could send me a replacement part that I could fit myself.
I think what happened is the phone got warm while in use - this would heat the glue up and cause the adhesive to loosen.

In My Xperia T also the camera ring is missing.... Where to buy it.... ?
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Same just happend to me today
i do still have the plastic ring though. Maybe going to try super glue it (hoping i don't spill any on the lens )

Open a Xperia z to manually dry the speaker?

I was in the beach 2 days ago and I brought my xperia Z along. I decided that it was a good idea to take underwater videos and pictures above the water. They all looked great. The only problem is that, its been two days since that happened and my speaker is still muffled. It usually gets dry in a few hours, this time I'm worried it might have damaged for good. I believe that maybe little grains of sand made their way through the grill and are keeping the sound low or something else. Anyways, just wanted to ask if anyone can advise me on what to do. I had my C6002 since its release and have submerge it in numerous pools but never on a beach. Any help will be appreciated, thanks
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I wouldn't recommend open the device, you could lose the water resistance altogether.
My only advice would be letting the device on rice for a while with the flaps open.
Anyway, my take on this subject is this:
I wonder now why everyone thinks that kind of water resistance will make the phone indestructible.
For me, that water resistance (not waterproof) just makes me feel more confident about my device surviving water related accidents.
Just taking the device to the swimming pool defeats its certification (2 m deep pools are not uncommon, you know), splashing, swimming, just moving around under water, or even worst jumping into the water violently just multiplies the pressure around your device by more than those 0.1 bar.
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Good luck anyway.

Since it was salt water, did you ever think about washing it with distilled water? Might help
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Teo032 said:
Since it was salt water, did you ever think about washing it with distilled water? Might help
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That would be my suggestion too. Try giving it a bath in nice clean water to rinse off any debris.
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Yeah that was my first reaction. I actually left it submerged for about 15 and after that I rinsed it on the shower with no avail. I havent blow dried it, I've read somewhere that might help. But thanks for the suggestions. I'll leave it with rice tonight and see if I have something positive to report tomorrow.
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After spending the night on a ziplock bag full of rise and turned off, I'm happy to report that the speaker is as good as new. I'm super happy. Now, there's one weird issue. Its in another thread, but suddenly I have dead pixels in my camera. See the light switch on the left and notice how there is a black dot on either side. These are persistent around every photo I take. Any thoughts?
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abajarde said:
After spending the night on a ziplock bag full of rise and turned off, I'm happy to report that the speaker is as good as new. I'm super happy. Now, there's one weird issue. Its in another thread, but suddenly I have dead pixels in my camera. See the light switch on the left and notice how there is a black dot on either side. These are persistent around every photo I take. Any thoughts?
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Same thing here since a few days and I f*cking hate it! Thought I'm not sure if it's dirt or a dead pixel.

abajarde said:
After spending the night on a ziplock bag full of rise and turned off, I'm happy to report that the speaker is as good as new. I'm super happy. Now, there's one weird issue. Its in another thread, but suddenly I have dead pixels in my camera. See the light switch on the left and notice how there is a black dot on either side. These are persistent around every photo I take. Any thoughts?
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There not dead pixels its a quiet common fault it minute pieces of the lens casing as a lot of users have reported the same ive even got some on mine.
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Futura2000 said:
There not dead pixels its a quiet common fault it minute pieces of the lens casing as a lot of users have reported the same ive even got some on mine.
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What do you suggest we do? Send it for repair?
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abajarde said:
What do you suggest we do? Send it for repair?
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You can only send it for repairs;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2311497
Which is what I'm going to do.

FYI if you ever want to dry the speaker out use a can of compressed air to force the water out, i've been doing this for sometime without issue, and restores volume immediately,

LBTaylor1984 said:
FYI if you ever want to dry the speaker out use a can of compressed air to force the water out, i've been doing this for sometime without issue, and restores volume immediately,
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You are probably going to eventually destroy the water proof membrane inside the speaker if you continue to do that. Not good advice.
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LBTaylor1984 said:
FYI if you ever want to dry the speaker out use a can of compressed air to force the water out, i've been doing this for sometime without issue, and restores volume immediately,
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Yeah man, pushing compressed air through there doesn't sound like a good idea. I'll gladly wait 2-3 hours or a bag of rice overnite. That's living dangerously right there
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Well it's your choice but it takes a quick spray and it'd back to normal.
If you did it with 10 psi sure but this is can which is like 10 psi.
It's up to you but it's not much dissimilar to blowing it with your mouth
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Amazingly, I left the phone over night on a bag of rice and not only did it fix the issue it had another unexpected effect. Now, when I wet the speaker its back to normal almost immediately. I was at a lake yesterday, used the phone to record under water, take photos, and guess what? It was fully loud each time almost immediately after I got out of the water. This phone hasn't seize to impress. I highly recommend to consider the rice. Often times, naturally aspired solutions are the better choice.
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HELP! Xperia Z Now has a black screen!

So hello,
I am at vacation, Had my xperia Z, was trying to test the water resistance of the phone, so i decided, ( i never did something with water and my phone before, because i was worried something would happen) to make a video when jumping into the swimming pool,
so i did.
after that, ( about 3 hours later) my screen starts to flicker. after that, the brightness goes down.
still flickering.
I decided to do a CPU stability test, just to check.
CPU came at 50.3 degrees (!!!) ( WTF!), then i turned it off, because i thought this was a little too hot.
After that, i was sleeping, next day it was still the same, still flickering and low brightness, but everything was working. I turned it off again,
Yesterday i turned it on, and saw nothing on-screen anymore, although i do know that the phone still works, because of this:
If i hold volume up + power button for 10 seconds, it still vibrates,
if i hold volume down and power button, it makes a screenshot ( i hear that sound)
and when i press on the screen, i hear that touch sounds.
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Can someone help me?
Do i have to repair it in a repair center? How much will it cost me? or is this in warranty ( i think no)
Also additional info:
Phone = Rooted
I had an custom ROM ( Honami )
I had all covers closed
I did NOT go one meter deep, i jumped in the pool and held my arm high, so it was almost not under water
it was NOT for 30 seconds/30minutes, just jump and done
Thanx!

The act of jumping in the water probably caused water to be forced into your phone.
It's highly likely corrosion and/or shorting of components has occurred as you continued to use the phone after water got in.
You can try leaving the device turned off in a bag of rice for a week or so, to see if that removes the moisture.
IMO, though, permanent damage has occurred and you will need to take it for repair.
Your warranty is probably void.
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Might be that u did not close the port properly, is the indicator turns colour? If thats not the Case then try reflash stock Rom, and if that does not solve the problem, try checking for possibility of water in ur device.. It might come through the back panel.

ILoveXperia said:
Might be that u did not close the port properly, is the indicator turns colour? If thats not the Case then try reflash stock Rom, and if that does not solve the problem, try checking for possibility of water in ur device.. It might come through the back panel.
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What indicator? The LED indicator? That gives several colours, when i turn it on it is pink, and when it is on, it is either green flashing sometimes, or blue flashing sometimes
and how to check for water in my device? ( besides letting it in a sack of rice for a week, because then i already know that wont work)
And if i let it repair, what will it cost? Since everything is working, except the screen
And i dont know how this works, but i saw some news sites that posted 2 days ago that the Xperia Z ultra has exact the same problem as i describe now, could it be thatsome xperia Z models also face the exact same problem?

He means the "water indicator". If you open the headphone or usb port flap, you'll see square white stuff in the corner. That's the indicator. If it is no longer white (it becomes red when water breach occurred), you have to take your phone into repair, and your warranty is already lost so you will be charged for the repair fee.
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fakhreza said:
He means the "water indicator". If you open the headphone or usb port flap, you'll see square white stuff in the corner. That's the indicator. If it is no longer white (it becomes red when water breach occurred), you have to take your phone into repair, and your warranty is already lost so you will be charged for the repair fee.
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Have to say, my screen is not completely blank, i could see on the lock screen the time, it was very dark however, but i still see something
also: cannot look now if it is pink, i think its pink, because i already saw that,
and if you mean warranty is already void because of root, i can relock my bootloader and flash to stock fairly easy ( have done it already couple of times, so, can do.)
and still, the big question, what do you expect me to payfor the repair?
and shall i bring it to sony? or to T-Mobile? or to another random third party repair shop in my city? ( last option is most affordable i think, but not the most secure, so what do you guys advise?)

If the indicator is red, your warranty is void.
Gesendet von meinem Xperia ZL

Tlcoman said:
Have to say, my screen is not completely blank, i could see on the lock screen the time, it was very dark however, but i still see something
also: cannot look now if it is pink, i think its pink, because i already saw that,
and if you mean warranty is already void because of root, i can relock my bootloader and flash to stock fairly easy ( have done it already couple of times, so, can do.)
and still, the big question, what do you expect me to payfor the repair?
and shall i bring it to sony? or to T-Mobile? or to another random third party repair shop in my city? ( last option is most affordable i think, but not the most secure, so what do you guys advise?)
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If the screen is very dark and you still can see whatever it displays, probably the LED IC (IC that controls the LED illumination) is broken, because the LCD is still working, but without any illumination. To bring it to sony is the best I guess.
Well, your warranty is void because the indicator is red (or pink-ish, not white anymore) because of water breach. Not because you unlocked your bootloader.
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fakhreza said:
If the screen is very dark and you still can see whatever it displays, probably the LED IC (IC that controls the LED illumination) is broken, because the LCD is still working, but without any illumination. To bring it to sony is the best I guess.
Well, your warranty is void because the indicator is red (or pink-ish, not white anymore) because of water breach. Not because you unlocked your bootloader.
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Still can see whatever it displays, this, i can't.
I could only see the Time in white, very dark, but this way i know it is not completely broken, does this mean the same?

seems like sony does not repair phones with water inside at all..., not even outside the warranty
What a service..

Tlcoman said:
seems like sony does not repair phones with water inside at all..., not even outside the warranty
What a service..
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That would be because repairing the average water damaged phone would cost more than replacing it when you factor in that probably every component has suffered damage, labour costs etc.
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kingvortex said:
That would be because repairing the average water damaged phone would cost more than replacing it when you factor in that probably every component has suffered damage, labour costs etc.
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So instead of helping SOME people, they choose to help no one, because it COULD be that everything is damaged?
Not everyone has Water damage everywhere

Yes, that's correct. Basic common sense would suggest it's cheaper to supply a new unit at cost price than to mess around paying someone to diagnose the fault and replace the whole internals of the phone in most cases of water damage. That's if the phone is even still under warranty, which probably isn't the case in 99% of water damage cases, which are normally caused by user error or negligence.
As for saying that not everyone would need most of the components replacing; you have no idea what is damaged inside your phone. It could be the case that the entire motherboard needs replacing.
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Hi... Im having the same exact issue, have u figured out how to fix this????

ladyash718 said:
Hi... Im having the same exact issue, have u figured out how to fix this????
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Water damage? Send the phone to be repaired.
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-Dude, you JUMPED into the water. The extra pressure caused by the jump plus the extra depth you dive in (larger than the one of one meter-written in phone's specs) caused extra pressure, therefore water leaked into your phone. Haven't you read the specs? Up to one meter depth, why did you think they informed you with that?
- check under your flaps (headphones, charger, etc), there is a tiny white strap. If that spot is still white, it means the water got into your phone not through the flaps, so you can claim a faulty device by proving that your flaps were closed the time water got in (this also means not to tell them that you actually jumped into the water with your phone). If your stripes are red, it means that water got into.the phone through your.flaps, therefore you can kiss goodbye your warranty. Next time you get a waterpfroof device read carefully its specifications.

Cheapest way to fix phone in that condition is to buy another one. Original front housing for xperia z is too expencive (touchscreen and lcd r glued together), and probably ur motherboard is damaged as well. As a official Sony servicer I recommend u to buy new phone. And main reason why Sony doestn't service phones damaged with liquid is the one that kingvortex said.
And jumping into the water isn't such a good idea at all man. :\
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Dim display trying to light up
Hello,
I've got the same problem. I was jumping with my Xperia Z into the pool and doing random idiotic ideas. Now is the phone functioning properly without any problems. But still there is one problem. My display is extremely dark. I can see on it only in the night. But when I'am playing with the phone more than 5 minutes the display is trying to light up. I set the brightness on maximum. Only 2 times it was on maximum for aproximetly 4 seconds but the phone is still trying to light up to the maximum. What can i do now? Thanks

Navratilec said:
Hello,
I've got the same problem. I was jumping with my Xperia Z into the pool and doing random idiotic ideas. Now is the phone functioning properly without any problems. But still there is one problem. My display is extremely dark. I can see on it only in the night. But when I'am playing with the phone more than 5 minutes the display is trying to light up. I set the brightness on maximum. Only 2 times it was on maximum for aproximetly 4 seconds but the phone is still trying to light up to the maximum. What can i do now? Thanks
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Haven't you read the previous posts? Check if the indicators are red, if they are there's nothing you can do. If they aren't you could give it to sony to repair, but don't tell them what you did....