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I dropped my bionic the other day shattering the glass. I don't have the 100 for insurance so I was looking for a quick way out till I replaced it.
Now, I know I can buy the glass/digitizer online, I even have the how-tos.
This is where my question gets unique. My coworker just out of the blue handed me his broken bionic. It was water damaged a few months ago.
Could I take the glass from this and put it on mine?? Or would it not work because of his damage? Could I rewire my good wires to his glass? I just figured free fix is better than sitting on a broken phone. Just don't know if it will work or not.
Ideas?
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Well unless water penetrated the display (which, I think, I think, is a fairly well sealed unit) you should be able to use it. If your friend already gave it to you, just try it out
I mean, attempting to power on the unit with a potentially water logged display can't be any riskier than a cracked one imo
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The display on mine works great, just spiderwebbed glass. I would only really need the glass for it.
I am hoping it works, just don't want to waste (x) hours on my phone to have to turn around and take it apart again haha
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Ohh ok, well, i'm certainly no expert on phone repair, I do know that the digitizer is a sealed unit, so, unless it stayed under water for a very very long time, I can't personally see why it wouldn't work for you
However, to be on the safe side and avoid wasting hours of your time (cause it does suck wasting time IMO) I'd hold up for a more experienced opinion.
sorry I couldn't be more assertive in my input
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Replacing the digitizer on the Bionic is incredibly simple, the only thing you need to be cardful with is removing the motherboard - be sure to pry the bottom away from teh LCD (small amount of weak adhesive there), because the digitizer cables (there are 2) run between the LCD and the board, so if you pull the LCD and the board out together, there's a pretty good chance of snapping those cables. Even easier than trying to swap digitizers is to just swap motherboards and LCDs. You might not even need to switch LCDs, but water isn't easy on them, so it's safe to assume that the water damaged one is trashed.
Anyway, all you need is a T4 screwdriver and about 15 minutes. The only other minor difficult area is the earpiece speaker area, but all in all, this is one of the simplest phones I've ever worked on.
Yeah it doesn't seem like a hard phone to work on. Just hope all the water damaged pieces work alright with this phone. I'll post up when I get home with results
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Just google the ifixit for bionic its only 11 screws and 2 ribbon wires
I know how to do it. That's not what this thread is about. Haha.
The whole reason for this thread was would a digitizer from a water logged phone work as a suitable replacement for my screen.
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Worked great, new screen is on, all the connections are solid!
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Congrats
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I've had my V for about a week now, and I noticed yesterday that if I squeeze at all from the sides, the whole frame seems to "give" a bit and makes a bit of a creaking sound. Anyone else have this? The phone hasn't been dropped at all. Not that I'm in the habit of squeezing my phone, but it's definitely noticeable, and it also seems that if the frame is prone to bending, it could lose it's watertightness as well.
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shockwaverider said:
I've had my V for about a week now, and I noticed yesterday that if I squeeze at all from the sides, the whole frame seems to "give" a bit and makes a bit of a creaking sound. Anyone else have this? The phone hasn't been dropped at all. Not that I'm in the habit of squeezing my phone, but it's definitely noticeable, and it also seems that if the frame is prone to bending, it could lose it's watertightness as well.
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Yesterday I rested my feet on the table, forgetting my V was on it and landed my heel on it. I realized that only after I completed a game of dota 2, and started looking for my phone and found it sanwiched between my feet and the table. Glad to tell you it wasn't damaged whatsoever. So don't worry yourself.
You got it, enjoy it.
Yeah, it's not that I'm worried about it falling apart or bursting into flames or anything like that, I guess I'm just a bit bummed that something I spent a bunch of money on doesn't seem to have the build quality to match the price tag. I love the phone otherwise, so I was just wondering if this is an issue with my phone, or is it common with all V's.
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my v also have similar 'click' effect like button press on the lower left frame if pressed.
Lower left side is making noice for me too, but just press hard and make sure you got it tight fit everytime you close the backside, so now my squeaky sound is gone.
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Yeah, mine has gotten a bit worse over the last couple weeks. Pressing on either side pretty much anywhere on the lower half of the phone causes fairly loud squeaking noises. I haven't had time to take it in for warranty, and I don't know if it's even worth it if it's just going to do the same thing.
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I think it could be a problem with the nxt design. My XT does the exact same thing. Seems to be a common issue overall.
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I can confirm this on my T as well. Upper left corner gives in a fraction of a millimeter (barely visible but visible, if you know what I mean) if I squeeze it and it also makes a audible noise, but I also believe it's the way the devices are designed. I'm kind of unhappy this happens for the money I spent, on the other hand, the T was considerably cheaper than a Galaxy S3 or so and it's on par regarding power. And way cooler, it can squeak I'm usually VERY PICKY about things like that, but I guess I'll get used to it. Especially after putting it in an all around rubber/gel case, I'll keep it unless it starts to seriously desintegrate any time soon.
The squeaking sound is there but it has been reduced after getting a case so I'm not so worried anymore. I suggest for you to get a case. Those hard rubber case works well in protection.
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nooooo!.. Im planning to buy this phone and i thought it has premium build quality... I guess im wrong
This issue makes me look for other options, maybe One S? what do you guys think?
chizburger said:
nooooo!.. Im planning to buy this phone and i thought it has premium build quality... I guess im wrong
This issue makes me look for other options, maybe One S? what do you guys think?
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I have no issues at all with the build quality, its absolutely brilliant for me. Xperia T, I would recommend it to anyone.
Yes, it's a common issue
I'd describe the quality as flawless. The build is excellent. Nothing to worry about.
The squeeking comes from the rather extreme design and material choice, doesnt influence the build though. As said, nothing to be worried about, I reckon.
It is premium build quality.. Don't bother with those who goes looking for noises after bending and squeezing the phone snev found a noise.. Just enjoy it, coming from a HTC one x.
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buljo said:
It is premium build quality.. Don't bother with those who goes looking for noises after bending and squeezing the phone snev found a noise.. Just enjoy it, coming from a HTC one x.
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I'm not looking for problems. Maybe this is just an issue with my handset, whatever, but it is annoying. Anyway, I put a case on the phone and decided not to bother with returning it, so there's no point in me complaining about it any more.
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Hi,
Today I felt that the glas at the back of the Z was slightly bend up at the upper left corner (next to the camera). Must hace happened in the last days.
Its like the backglas comes off at that corner and I can even push it inwards a little.
I didn't let it fall or didn't push or squeeze it too much or something.
Is there a way to fix that? Im frightened that it wont keep water off or dust will enter or the glas will crack (cause this edge is now slightly higher than the frame).
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I have no idea about this, but if I were in your seat, I'd get it replaced before anything breaks.
Or - send it in for warranty repairs, if you get it back and its still coming off, and go back claim they did it.
It seems this happened because you played a lot with doom kernel
Overheating will dry the back glass's glue and rubbers.
If you see how to disassemble this phone you will know what i mean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNrtamZuf7E&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Im only undervolting and -clocking what results in less heat all across the board... So maybe this glue would have dried even faster if I hadnt used doomkernel
Well, any tips how to solve this on my own? Guess with a unlocked BL and rooted phone sonys gonna make this issue a several hundret euro issue
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I experienced the very same issue! Exactly the exact spot. Top lef corner at the camera. I have all stock firmware, no overclock.
Very frustrating! I always try to push it back, but it does not stay that way. Now the glass is about the same level as the side bevel. Sometimes over it a bit.
I would repair it myself the way that video is showing how to remove the back glass, but I do not know what type of glue should I use...
I didn't fix it and it didn't change or come off (yet). Well, maybe we shouldn't bother too much, as opening the back could be like opening pandoras box I learned to live with it, because it really isn't that big of an issue...I had already forgotten about it. Your answer here made me remember it
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But I need to add that this is not something I expected when buying a premium flagship for 600 bucks...
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Well if you didn't play around with the kernel then you might have used the phone for too long to the point it started to melt the glue.
This was mentioned by users when the phone was launched. The camera part gets heated up easily.
If it's getting loose don't even try putting it under water, it's probably not ip57 anymore.
Prevention: try not to hold your hand in the upper part, when it starts feeling hot let the phone sit till it's cool.
Less gaming for you gamers out there!
Yes it's sad but there's sacrifices for beauty.
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This happened with my XZ too. Today after playing Carmageddon and charging it at a same time (for 90 mins approx). I pushed back the backplate WHILE IT WAS HOT, and its ok for now. Im sure its caused due to the heat from inside. Gonna monitor that issue and if it happens again, I will return the phone back to the store.
They must do something with charging because while i playing the batt percentage was decreased from 75 to 55 (on stock charger, but with another 1.8m cable).
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Im only undervolting and -clocking what results in less heat all across the board... So maybe this glue would have dried even faster if I hadnt used doomkernel
Well, any tips how to solve this on my own? Guess with a unlocked BL and rooted phone sonys gonna make this issue a several hundret euro issue
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In Singapore, the service center dont bother if your set is rooted or unloack BL.. As long as it is still under warranty, they will repair for you. I tried with HTC, Asus and Sony... lolx
I believe now, Unlocking BL and Rooting but keep stock ROMs will not cost your warranty void. Its only when you play around with custom ROMs and cause your phone to break or having boot-loops then you need to pay for repair. But most of the time, re-flashing ROMs will solve the issue.
I was in the beach 2 days ago and I brought my xperia Z along. I decided that it was a good idea to take underwater videos and pictures above the water. They all looked great. The only problem is that, its been two days since that happened and my speaker is still muffled. It usually gets dry in a few hours, this time I'm worried it might have damaged for good. I believe that maybe little grains of sand made their way through the grill and are keeping the sound low or something else. Anyways, just wanted to ask if anyone can advise me on what to do. I had my C6002 since its release and have submerge it in numerous pools but never on a beach. Any help will be appreciated, thanks
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I wouldn't recommend open the device, you could lose the water resistance altogether.
My only advice would be letting the device on rice for a while with the flaps open.
Anyway, my take on this subject is this:
I wonder now why everyone thinks that kind of water resistance will make the phone indestructible.
For me, that water resistance (not waterproof) just makes me feel more confident about my device surviving water related accidents.
Just taking the device to the swimming pool defeats its certification (2 m deep pools are not uncommon, you know), splashing, swimming, just moving around under water, or even worst jumping into the water violently just multiplies the pressure around your device by more than those 0.1 bar.
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Good luck anyway.
Since it was salt water, did you ever think about washing it with distilled water? Might help
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Since it was salt water, did you ever think about washing it with distilled water? Might help
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That would be my suggestion too. Try giving it a bath in nice clean water to rinse off any debris.
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Yeah that was my first reaction. I actually left it submerged for about 15 and after that I rinsed it on the shower with no avail. I havent blow dried it, I've read somewhere that might help. But thanks for the suggestions. I'll leave it with rice tonight and see if I have something positive to report tomorrow.
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After spending the night on a ziplock bag full of rise and turned off, I'm happy to report that the speaker is as good as new. I'm super happy. Now, there's one weird issue. Its in another thread, but suddenly I have dead pixels in my camera. See the light switch on the left and notice how there is a black dot on either side. These are persistent around every photo I take. Any thoughts?
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After spending the night on a ziplock bag full of rise and turned off, I'm happy to report that the speaker is as good as new. I'm super happy. Now, there's one weird issue. Its in another thread, but suddenly I have dead pixels in my camera. See the light switch on the left and notice how there is a black dot on either side. These are persistent around every photo I take. Any thoughts?
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Same thing here since a few days and I f*cking hate it! Thought I'm not sure if it's dirt or a dead pixel.
abajarde said:
After spending the night on a ziplock bag full of rise and turned off, I'm happy to report that the speaker is as good as new. I'm super happy. Now, there's one weird issue. Its in another thread, but suddenly I have dead pixels in my camera. See the light switch on the left and notice how there is a black dot on either side. These are persistent around every photo I take. Any thoughts?
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There not dead pixels its a quiet common fault it minute pieces of the lens casing as a lot of users have reported the same ive even got some on mine.
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There not dead pixels its a quiet common fault it minute pieces of the lens casing as a lot of users have reported the same ive even got some on mine.
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What do you suggest we do? Send it for repair?
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abajarde said:
What do you suggest we do? Send it for repair?
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You can only send it for repairs;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2311497
Which is what I'm going to do.
FYI if you ever want to dry the speaker out use a can of compressed air to force the water out, i've been doing this for sometime without issue, and restores volume immediately,
LBTaylor1984 said:
FYI if you ever want to dry the speaker out use a can of compressed air to force the water out, i've been doing this for sometime without issue, and restores volume immediately,
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You are probably going to eventually destroy the water proof membrane inside the speaker if you continue to do that. Not good advice.
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LBTaylor1984 said:
FYI if you ever want to dry the speaker out use a can of compressed air to force the water out, i've been doing this for sometime without issue, and restores volume immediately,
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Yeah man, pushing compressed air through there doesn't sound like a good idea. I'll gladly wait 2-3 hours or a bag of rice overnite. That's living dangerously right there
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Well it's your choice but it takes a quick spray and it'd back to normal.
If you did it with 10 psi sure but this is can which is like 10 psi.
It's up to you but it's not much dissimilar to blowing it with your mouth
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Amazingly, I left the phone over night on a bag of rice and not only did it fix the issue it had another unexpected effect. Now, when I wet the speaker its back to normal almost immediately. I was at a lake yesterday, used the phone to record under water, take photos, and guess what? It was fully loud each time almost immediately after I got out of the water. This phone hasn't seize to impress. I highly recommend to consider the rice. Often times, naturally aspired solutions are the better choice.
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Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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jonke11 said:
Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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Man I really don't know.. I don't think you'll face issues even trying to take it underwater, but still if you don't know whether the film cracked too you should try to replace it.. If the asf is ok, then you should be ok bro....
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No....
A crack means no longer airtight.
jonke11 said:
Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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I...wouldn't try it. I think your phone just became "oh #*&$" accident water proof. ie. if you drop it in the neighbors pool or something on accident you're probably fine, but I wouldn't put the "1.5 meters/30 minutes" part to the test anytime soon.
This also probably compromises any warranty given on the water proofness. If they see that it has a cracked back they could easily use that as an excuse not to repair it under warranty claim.
Just like i thought guys, but i think its still waterproof, because the film helps glass keep in his place, and the edges of the glass is still glued. That crack is like hair, really small. Ill try to take a picture in the evening, because its morningright now.
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That white spot is from fingers, try to see that little line, i circle it
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I really cant see that line without sun shine, because its really small.
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Why ask us at all then if you aren't going to heed our advice anyway?
You sound like you have your mind made up, so what was the point of this thread?
Water will find it's way. If this crack is all trought, it WILL find it's way.
I jus want your opinion guys
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I jus want your opinion guys
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Well, as an engineer (electrical/electronics with experience in mechanical), my opinion is no, definitely not. I wouldn't risk it.
That being said, it sounds like you have yoour mind made up regardless.
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Well, as an engineer (electrical/electronics with experience in mechanical), my opinion is no, definitely not. I wouldn't risk it.
That being said, it sounds like you have yoour mind made up regardless.
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Really thanks! You really answered my question!
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I'm still wondering: why shouldn't it be waterproof if the film is COMPLETELY covering the glass crack? I actually don't know if what I just said is true because I can't get a damn nothing from that pic :')
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I'm still wondering: why shouldn't it be waterproof if the film is COMPLETELY covering the glass crack? I actually don't know if what I just said is true because I can't get a damn nothing from that pic :')
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The film could have scratches or little tears in it itself...
Plus who is to say that the film isn't slightly lifted.
You are betting on a lot on a very thin layer of plastic.
Is it worth the price of a new phone?
It's like when you put beers in a cooler. Wait for the ice to melt and you'll see all the stickers on the beer bootle lift up and float on the water.
Simple physics, water will find the smallest whole, smallest gap, smalest opening and make it trough. That's the reason not all devices are IP rated, most of them don't even bother to manufacture something "tight" enough to get a rating, and even if they do, it's more likely a IPX7, not IPX8 like Xperia's.
Water is strong, and it will find its way.
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/support/discover-more/water-and-dust-resistance/ look guys, Sony xperia z1 ip58
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Yeah guys you're probably right.. The risk is not worth it
As already mentioned here.
It is not worth the risk, you get water in the phone and no warranty, because there is damage on the phone that was not there when you received the phone.
If a phone goes in that has water damage. They clean all the flaps to ensure no debris, then close them, then test the phone to ensure that the phone is watertight at 1.5m for about 30 minutes.
Water in phone = warranty, no water in phone = no warranty. It would be determined that water in the phone had to be lack of care from the user, not keeping flaps clean, closing them properly or even leaving them open.
Further to this, I am certain they would just say the crack in the glass was the issue, again deemed to be user negligence.
I've faced this problem before. I drop my phone on 3 feet high, and crack my front tempered glass protector. And guess what? My phone dead when I submerged it underwater for less than 30s. And yes, water going inside.
if you got air tester machine u lucky but i recommend you bring to sony center
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