Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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jonke11 said:
Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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Man I really don't know.. I don't think you'll face issues even trying to take it underwater, but still if you don't know whether the film cracked too you should try to replace it.. If the asf is ok, then you should be ok bro....
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No....
A crack means no longer airtight.
jonke11 said:
Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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I...wouldn't try it. I think your phone just became "oh #*&$" accident water proof. ie. if you drop it in the neighbors pool or something on accident you're probably fine, but I wouldn't put the "1.5 meters/30 minutes" part to the test anytime soon.
This also probably compromises any warranty given on the water proofness. If they see that it has a cracked back they could easily use that as an excuse not to repair it under warranty claim.
Just like i thought guys, but i think its still waterproof, because the film helps glass keep in his place, and the edges of the glass is still glued. That crack is like hair, really small. Ill try to take a picture in the evening, because its morningright now.
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That white spot is from fingers, try to see that little line, i circle it
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I really cant see that line without sun shine, because its really small.
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Why ask us at all then if you aren't going to heed our advice anyway?
You sound like you have your mind made up, so what was the point of this thread?
Water will find it's way. If this crack is all trought, it WILL find it's way.
I jus want your opinion guys
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I jus want your opinion guys
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Well, as an engineer (electrical/electronics with experience in mechanical), my opinion is no, definitely not. I wouldn't risk it.
That being said, it sounds like you have yoour mind made up regardless.
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Well, as an engineer (electrical/electronics with experience in mechanical), my opinion is no, definitely not. I wouldn't risk it.
That being said, it sounds like you have yoour mind made up regardless.
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Really thanks! You really answered my question!
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I'm still wondering: why shouldn't it be waterproof if the film is COMPLETELY covering the glass crack? I actually don't know if what I just said is true because I can't get a damn nothing from that pic :')
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I'm still wondering: why shouldn't it be waterproof if the film is COMPLETELY covering the glass crack? I actually don't know if what I just said is true because I can't get a damn nothing from that pic :')
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The film could have scratches or little tears in it itself...
Plus who is to say that the film isn't slightly lifted.
You are betting on a lot on a very thin layer of plastic.
Is it worth the price of a new phone?
It's like when you put beers in a cooler. Wait for the ice to melt and you'll see all the stickers on the beer bootle lift up and float on the water.
Simple physics, water will find the smallest whole, smallest gap, smalest opening and make it trough. That's the reason not all devices are IP rated, most of them don't even bother to manufacture something "tight" enough to get a rating, and even if they do, it's more likely a IPX7, not IPX8 like Xperia's.
Water is strong, and it will find its way.
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/support/discover-more/water-and-dust-resistance/ look guys, Sony xperia z1 ip58
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Yeah guys you're probably right.. The risk is not worth it
As already mentioned here.
It is not worth the risk, you get water in the phone and no warranty, because there is damage on the phone that was not there when you received the phone.
If a phone goes in that has water damage. They clean all the flaps to ensure no debris, then close them, then test the phone to ensure that the phone is watertight at 1.5m for about 30 minutes.
Water in phone = warranty, no water in phone = no warranty. It would be determined that water in the phone had to be lack of care from the user, not keeping flaps clean, closing them properly or even leaving them open.
Further to this, I am certain they would just say the crack in the glass was the issue, again deemed to be user negligence.
I've faced this problem before. I drop my phone on 3 feet high, and crack my front tempered glass protector. And guess what? My phone dead when I submerged it underwater for less than 30s. And yes, water going inside.
if you got air tester machine u lucky but i recommend you bring to sony center
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I was in the beach 2 days ago and I brought my xperia Z along. I decided that it was a good idea to take underwater videos and pictures above the water. They all looked great. The only problem is that, its been two days since that happened and my speaker is still muffled. It usually gets dry in a few hours, this time I'm worried it might have damaged for good. I believe that maybe little grains of sand made their way through the grill and are keeping the sound low or something else. Anyways, just wanted to ask if anyone can advise me on what to do. I had my C6002 since its release and have submerge it in numerous pools but never on a beach. Any help will be appreciated, thanks
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I wouldn't recommend open the device, you could lose the water resistance altogether.
My only advice would be letting the device on rice for a while with the flaps open.
Anyway, my take on this subject is this:
I wonder now why everyone thinks that kind of water resistance will make the phone indestructible.
For me, that water resistance (not waterproof) just makes me feel more confident about my device surviving water related accidents.
Just taking the device to the swimming pool defeats its certification (2 m deep pools are not uncommon, you know), splashing, swimming, just moving around under water, or even worst jumping into the water violently just multiplies the pressure around your device by more than those 0.1 bar.
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Good luck anyway.
Since it was salt water, did you ever think about washing it with distilled water? Might help
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Since it was salt water, did you ever think about washing it with distilled water? Might help
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That would be my suggestion too. Try giving it a bath in nice clean water to rinse off any debris.
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Yeah that was my first reaction. I actually left it submerged for about 15 and after that I rinsed it on the shower with no avail. I havent blow dried it, I've read somewhere that might help. But thanks for the suggestions. I'll leave it with rice tonight and see if I have something positive to report tomorrow.
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After spending the night on a ziplock bag full of rise and turned off, I'm happy to report that the speaker is as good as new. I'm super happy. Now, there's one weird issue. Its in another thread, but suddenly I have dead pixels in my camera. See the light switch on the left and notice how there is a black dot on either side. These are persistent around every photo I take. Any thoughts?
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After spending the night on a ziplock bag full of rise and turned off, I'm happy to report that the speaker is as good as new. I'm super happy. Now, there's one weird issue. Its in another thread, but suddenly I have dead pixels in my camera. See the light switch on the left and notice how there is a black dot on either side. These are persistent around every photo I take. Any thoughts?
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Same thing here since a few days and I f*cking hate it! Thought I'm not sure if it's dirt or a dead pixel.
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After spending the night on a ziplock bag full of rise and turned off, I'm happy to report that the speaker is as good as new. I'm super happy. Now, there's one weird issue. Its in another thread, but suddenly I have dead pixels in my camera. See the light switch on the left and notice how there is a black dot on either side. These are persistent around every photo I take. Any thoughts?
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There not dead pixels its a quiet common fault it minute pieces of the lens casing as a lot of users have reported the same ive even got some on mine.
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There not dead pixels its a quiet common fault it minute pieces of the lens casing as a lot of users have reported the same ive even got some on mine.
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What do you suggest we do? Send it for repair?
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abajarde said:
What do you suggest we do? Send it for repair?
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You can only send it for repairs;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2311497
Which is what I'm going to do.
FYI if you ever want to dry the speaker out use a can of compressed air to force the water out, i've been doing this for sometime without issue, and restores volume immediately,
LBTaylor1984 said:
FYI if you ever want to dry the speaker out use a can of compressed air to force the water out, i've been doing this for sometime without issue, and restores volume immediately,
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You are probably going to eventually destroy the water proof membrane inside the speaker if you continue to do that. Not good advice.
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LBTaylor1984 said:
FYI if you ever want to dry the speaker out use a can of compressed air to force the water out, i've been doing this for sometime without issue, and restores volume immediately,
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Yeah man, pushing compressed air through there doesn't sound like a good idea. I'll gladly wait 2-3 hours or a bag of rice overnite. That's living dangerously right there
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Well it's your choice but it takes a quick spray and it'd back to normal.
If you did it with 10 psi sure but this is can which is like 10 psi.
It's up to you but it's not much dissimilar to blowing it with your mouth
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Amazingly, I left the phone over night on a bag of rice and not only did it fix the issue it had another unexpected effect. Now, when I wet the speaker its back to normal almost immediately. I was at a lake yesterday, used the phone to record under water, take photos, and guess what? It was fully loud each time almost immediately after I got out of the water. This phone hasn't seize to impress. I highly recommend to consider the rice. Often times, naturally aspired solutions are the better choice.
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Hi, I'm contemplating buying this phone. I know it's dust-tight but does that mean the electronic internals are, or everything, including the screen? I know Super AMOLED and Super Clear LCD have no air gap so can't get dust under the touch panel but I've seen an S4 Active in the "flesh" and I saw gaps round the bezel of the phone where the glass meets the plastic (like every Samsung I've had) and I worry that dust might get in there and under the touch panel (into the actual LCD). Anyone every had a dust problem with this?
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I work at a body shop (very dusty all the time)and can confirm u will not be getting any dust! Main reason for buying I537.
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Same here...I drive a truck in a very dusty environment, phone is left in a holder on dash, all day long. So far no dust under screen or under back cover. Ive had phone for 2 months now.
Thanks for your replies Just had another go on one in a phone shop. It's a beauty. I only wish it did slow motion like the S4 But it's waterproof and that's brill!
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Do not worry about dust You are safe
Water on the hand.....
DoctorProctor said:
Water on the hand.....
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Dry your hand then.
When I look closely to the left side of the phone I can see it is bent down a little means the phone does not lay plain on plain surfaces. This was not from beginning but one week later without falling on the ground or similar. I think it bent due to heat.
Can anyone confirm this bending and is still using it under water, shower and what do ever?
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When I look closely to the left side of the phone I can see it is bent down a little means the phone does not lay plain on plain surfaces. This was not from beginning but one week later without falling on the ground or similar. I think it bent due to heat.
Can anyone confirm this bending and is still using it under water, shower and what do ever?
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Take photos? If you can see gaps, especially around the front glass or back glass, or if the side covers do not close flush, it's probably not waterproof.
Mighty_X said:
When I look closely to the left side of the phone I can see it is bent down a little means the phone does not lay plain on plain surfaces. This was not from beginning but one week later without falling on the ground or similar. I think it bent due to heat.
Can anyone confirm this bending and is still using it under water, shower and what do ever?
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After a week? Send it back m8, that shouldn't be happening, either the phones been heavily stressed or over charged or it simply has chips that overheat. Either way it's bad and shouldn't happen, there should be a 28 day exchange service and a straight swap should be on offer.
Photo?
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When I look closely to the left side of the phone I can see it is bent down a little means the phone does not lay plain on plain surfaces. This was not from beginning but one week later without falling on the ground or similar. I think it bent due to heat.
Can anyone confirm this bending and is still using it under water, shower and what do ever?
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Show photo of your Z1.
I have some scratches over the camera lens! and I'v been extra carful with this phone so far!
I'm the only one having these so far??
how is yours holding?
I also noticed some scratches but dont see any difference in picture quality jet.
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I have some scratches over the camera lens! and I'v been extra carful with this phone so far!
I'm the only one having these so far??
how is yours holding?
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It's very easy to replace the back glass that does include a new lens. If it bugs you that much that's an option.
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It's very easy to replace the back glass that does include a new lens. If it bugs you that much that's an option.
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but then you will not have a waterproof phone anymore.. or i'm wrong ?
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but then you will not have a waterproof phone anymore.. or i'm wrong ?
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You have to heat up the back then the adhesive comes loose, make sure you order a back glass that has the adhesive already applied and then you reheat that when you put it on. I did it on my Xperia Z and it worked fine. It's basically just a piece of waterproof tape that keeps the water out.
Or mayb you can use some p2000 waterproof sandingpaper and allot of patients? Don't know for sure, replacing is always possible...
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You have to heat up the back then the adhesive comes loose, make sure you order a back glass that has the adhesive already applied and then you reheat that when you put it on. I did it on my Xperia Z and it worked fine. It's basically just a piece of waterproof tape that keeps the water out.
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can you show me a place from whom i can order the above??
thank you man!:good:
http://www.parts4repair.com/sony-xperia-z1/
http://www.witrigs.com/sony-xperia-z1-replacement-parts
Or e-bay?
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yaabaa1986 said:
http://www.parts4repair.com/sony-xperia-z1/
http://www.witrigs.com/sony-xperia-z1-replacement-parts
Or e-bay?
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thank you man!
I meant obviously sites where the back cover comes with adhesive on.. but at that point I will ask the seller himself. thanks bud!
No probl.
Can you mayb try to polish the back after removing? I am quite anxious to know if it would work, in that case 1 can pollish the whole phone, also the frame (to end up with an mirror/chrome finish)?
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Hi!
I ordered this (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/for-...cover-back-housing-back-glass/1603707841.html) back plate two weeks ago and it arrived yesterday, my old one was broken.. I don't know if it's glass or hard plastic, but it's holding up great without any protection!
There is no shatter film on the backplate, so I think its not original but OK.
It was very easy to take the old one off; just some heat, a sharp knife and a guitar pick did the trick.
The new one came with adhesive, and after cleaning the frame it went right on!
All in all very nice, and easy install, may be original, may be not.
Press thanks if I helped you :thumbup:
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Hi!
I ordered this (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/for-...cover-back-housing-back-glass/1603707841.html) back plate two weeks ago and it arrived yesterday, my old one was broken.. I don't know if it's glass or hard plastic, but it's holding up great without any protection!
There is no shatter film on the backplate, so I think its not original but OK.
It was very easy to take the old one off; just some heat, a sharp knife and a guitar pick did the trick.
The new one came with adhesive, and after cleaning the frame it went right on!
All in all very nice, and easy install, may be original, may be not.
Press thanks if I helped you :thumbup:
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dose it have the sony logo on the back ?
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dose it have the sony logo on the back ?
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Hi!
For copyright issues it's blurred on the site, but it's there. First I was worried about the quality of the logo's and branding, but when it arrived, all the logo's (Sony, Xperia, NFC icon, G camera icon) were all very crisp and detailed!
It looks like the real deal
Hello Xda,I Crackes My Screen Yesterday,From Just A Little Impact It Cracked And I was shocked,Anyway,It's Just A kinda Crack Line In The Upper Half Of my phone,And The Touch Gone(The Touch Only Gone On the statusbar area,except That touch is working.
Ok,Will It cost Me That Much To Repair?Cause I'm Just 15 Years Old,And It Still Waterproof?(There Is Glass screen protector on It)Thanks In advance Mates.
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Hello Xda,I Crackes My Screen Yesterday,From Just A Little Impact It Cracked And I was shocked,Anyway,It's Just A kinda Crack Line In The Upper Half Of my phone,And The Touch Gone(The Touch Only Gone On the statusbar area,except That touch is working.
Ok,Will It cost Me That Much To Repair?Cause I'm Just 15 Years Old,And It Still Waterproof?(There Is Glass screen protector on It)Thanks In advance Mates.
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What country you in bud? If you are in the UK then you may get it repaired under warranty.
No Mate,i'm From Israel
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Do it your self. Check out witrigs.com for the parts and instructions plus the many videos on YouTube. Fixed mine myself. Wasn't too hard.
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Spectre51 said:
Do it your self. Check out witrigs.com for the parts and instructions plus the many videos on YouTube. Fixed mine myself. Wasn't too hard.
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But Your Phone Is Still Waterproof?
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enadhamady said:
But Your Phone Is Still Waterproof?
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You know that "uppercases" are meant for specific applications, you can't just put them on randomly, it makes it hard for people that what to help you to understand you, you can find more informations here:
http://grammar.about.com/od/punctuationandmechanics/a/Guidelines-For-Using-Capital-Letters.htm
That being said, Waterproofing is possible by making the device "airtight". So, in theory, if you can make the device "tight" after, it will be water proof. But, water will infiltrate the slightest gap that it can find. So, if their's the slightest gap, it will find it's way.
IMHO: I wouldn't try it after changing the screen. I don't even think an "official" repair center would be able to garanty that it is waterproof after a repair.
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You know that "uppercases" are meant for specific applications, you can't just put them on randomly, it makes it hard for people that what to help you to understand you, you can find more informations here:
http://grammar.about.com/od/punctuationandmechanics/a/Guidelines-For-Using-Capital-Letters.htm
That being said, Waterproofing is possible by making the device "airtight". So, in theory, if you can make the device "tight" after, it will be water proof. But, water will infiltrate the slightest gap that it can find. So, if their's the slightest gap, it will find it's way.
IMHO: I wouldn't try it after changing the screen. I don't even think an "official" repair center would be able to garanty that it is waterproof after a repair.
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Thanks For Your Reply and Knowledge,i won't put it in water until i fix it cause the pkone store guarntee me that they will make it waterproof in extra 40/50$ So Thumbs up.
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