Dust under screen? - Galaxy S 4 Active Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I'm contemplating buying this phone. I know it's dust-tight but does that mean the electronic internals are, or everything, including the screen? I know Super AMOLED and Super Clear LCD have no air gap so can't get dust under the touch panel but I've seen an S4 Active in the "flesh" and I saw gaps round the bezel of the phone where the glass meets the plastic (like every Samsung I've had) and I worry that dust might get in there and under the touch panel (into the actual LCD). Anyone every had a dust problem with this?
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I work at a body shop (very dusty all the time)and can confirm u will not be getting any dust! Main reason for buying I537.
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Same here...I drive a truck in a very dusty environment, phone is left in a holder on dash, all day long. So far no dust under screen or under back cover. Ive had phone for 2 months now.

Thanks for your replies Just had another go on one in a phone shop. It's a beauty. I only wish it did slow motion like the S4 But it's waterproof and that's brill!
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Do not worry about dust You are safe

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Gorilla Glass 2 is awesome!

There have been so many posts about broken glass and mysterious breakage, etc. Because of this I feel it's only fair to have a thread where people can post close calls where the glass did not break.
Last night my phone feel off the top of a beauro onto cement! Was in my basement. When I heard it land I did not even want to pick it up because I was sure it was gone. I had just taken the case off to clean it after getting some dirty fingerprints on it. I had a flash back of reading all those broken glass threads.
I picked it up and I could not believe it! There is just a very small scratch that can barely be seen on the chrome bezel. The phone was laying on its face when I picked it up and was covered with dirt and sand. I was careful not to slide it at all and instead of wiping it I went into my garage and blew it off with the air compressor. I then cleaned it as I usually do with a lightly damp cloth, the ones you get for cleaning eye glasses.
I literally spent 15 minutes going over the glass and the entire phone under a bright light to look for damage and there is not a single scratch on the glass.
I am usually very careful but there have been a couple times I have had the phone in my pocket with keys and one time a metal flashlight even and still not even a small scratch on the glass.
I have had other phones and have had an iPod touch, other tablets without gorilla glass and all of them had very minor surface scratches that could be seen under light. This glass is durable and pretty awesome at stopping scratches.
I think one simple way any phone can be scratched though is either when cleaning or even using the phone with dirty hands. All it takes is some very small sand particles on your finger or on your even when you clean it. Make sire your hand are always clean and the screen too and you should have no problem with scratches. As for breakage, I have had 3 drops so far, 2 of them fairly bad drops so I guess it just depends on how it lands but overall I have found this phone very durable despite being made of glass.
Anyone else want to share?
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You were lucky......
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You were lucky......
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Lucky maybe once but 3 times... I have to believe the glass is pretty decent at least.
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Yep all luck.
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I have also dropped my phone twice and was surprised to see no shattered glass.
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I have also dropped my phone twice and was surprised to see no shattered glass.
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I dropped mine twice on hard ground. I had a bumper though. People are just neglectful and unwilling to take responsibility for their own actions.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGXR2iznbeg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Pretty respectable for a fully glass phone if you ask me
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Although the glass didn't break I think it's structure is somewhat damaged. In many drop test I have watched, it usually shatter at the third times.
Mine have dropped twice without damage to the glass but I think I better be careful from now on cause the third time may not be nice like the other two.
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jlear3 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGXR2iznbeg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Pretty respectable for a fully glass phone if you ask me
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Yeah I saw that video a couple weeks ago and thought the same thing. For it to basically be an all glass phone it held up well. That was the main reason I decided to just use a bumper instead of a back covering case. I figured if it can hold up to the back and side drop like that, a bumper should be fine for me (I'm not rough on my devices).
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The front panel is mostly glass but the back is made out of plastic and covered in glass. What is amazing is if you take the phone apart you can see just how thin the rear glass is. Crazy thin!
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Out of curiosity, which bumper are you guys using? I am using the official bumper btw.
I had kept my phone for charging on a table(unfortunately close to the edge ) about 1m in height . 3 missed calls later it was on the floor(tiled floor) and I heard the sound when it fell down. It was on its back with the front facing up and I thought it had cracked for sure. Turned it around to see no damage at all no dents on the chrome too . all I had on the phone was the glass protector for the back that comes with the phone.
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... All the negative posts here about fragile glass are from Apple shills spreading FUD.
Every time a new nexus model arrives, there is a flood of suspiciously similar complaints threads that have no real bearing on reality. However it usually does the trick and achieves their aim.
I have dropped mine a couple of times from a couple of feet up and I have no serious damage to report.
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I was lucky too. I just got to my girl friends house and had my nex4 on top of my nex10. I had placed them on top of a table on a balcony in the second floor of her house. Her little sister came running and grabbed my nex10 and the nex4 that was on top flew away to the ground from the second floor. And absolutely nothing happened to it. Maybe cus it landed on grass. But still there where rocks that it could gotten really badly damaged.
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my phone also took a nice hit, the diztronic hard shell cracked right open. not a single scratch on the phone!
Wow!! Your n4 was mating with your n10 and took a drop from the second floor!! You are so lucky it landed on grass.
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I just dropped mine from chair height was sitting down it slid of my lap fell on tiles and cracked the front screen the screen no longer functions so sad' back to the gs3 .... I miss pure Google I miss my nexus 4 I'm waiting to see what this Motorola x phone is and if I don't like it I'll get another nexus 4. I'm happy you all had your ones survive but I'm shattered just like my screen, I'm going into the shower to curl up in a ball and cry.
Fml
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Dropped mine from about five feet onto marble. There is a 1/4" dent in the chrome bezel. Front and back glass still look new!
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i dropped mine down the stairs and onto a concrete floor and mine didn't break

Taking silver off Samsung note N7000

A bit off the general topic,
Anyone got any suggestions how to take the silver coating off the casing of the N7000 sides without actually damaging the plastic underneath?
Mines coming off and I would prefer to taken it off?
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andrew.southafrica said:
A bit off the general topic,
Anyone got any suggestions how to take the silver coating off the casing of the N7000 sides without actually damaging the plastic underneath?
Mines coming off and I would prefer to taken it off?
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Wrong section.
Renive screws
Use sandpaper
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My recommendation is not to do it - it will leave a black, matt plastiky finish. If you did want to do it, use a fine sandpaper, then very fine sandpaper to smooth it out, then rub oil on it to give it a lustrous finish.
mine is coming off and its so ugly..
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Cheap crappy quality Samsung phones!!!
Emmc bug, black clipping, screen burn,silver coming off, faulty s pens & crappy quality service centers who never recognize an issue.Samsung sucks!!!
I'm never getting another ever again!!!
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As said above use the smallest sand paper you can find and get it off.
I'd now recommend it though... As you could easily damage your phone...
I took it off and it looks great, probably better than before.
Used my wife's nail buffer. Started off with the fine sand paper side. Then moved to the finer side. Finally used the polisher side. It's smooth and there are no scratches anywhere. My buddies couldn't even tell that it was a home job. People asked whether i got a new phone that's how good it came out.
Went through 2 nail buffers but they are so cheap it didn't matter. Probably took me 4 hours while I was watching TV.
Depending on what nail buffer you use, max $4 in total. Cant really see how you could damage the phone as the grit is so fine.
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andrew.southafrica said:
I took it off and it looks great, probably better than before.
Used my wife's nail buffer. Started off with the fine sand paper side. Then moved to the finer side. Finally used the polisher side. It's smooth and there are no scratches anywhere. My buddies couldn't even tell that it was a home job. People asked whether i got a new phone that's how good it came out.
Went through 2 nail buffers but they are so cheap it didn't matter. Probably took me 4 hours while I was watching TV.
Depending on what nail buffer you use, max $4 in total. Cant really see how you could damage the phone as the grit is so fine.
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Screen protector does not work :(

Hey guys, I have a problem. I use on Gear screen protector from one of my previous phone One X (nilkin). I cut small square for the gear but after one hour I find out that the screen protector is no there .
So, I was thinking that the screen protector is maybe old and does not work, so yesterday I damaged my second original Samsung Galaxy Note3 screen protector and everything looks okay. But today the screen saver is not there anymore
Any solution? These screensaver should be really good, on my phone always work very well. I am really dissapointed because screen protector from Samsung was not cheap.
I also had the same problem, first I cut one from my old S2, shifted past a few hours. So I order two from a german suplier on ebay specific to the gear, and the same problem past few hours.
The problem is in the glass of the Gear being curved.
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I use:
http://www.liquid-kristall.com/en/home/1-0.html
may not be as effective as a plastic one, but it's invisible and it's working so far. Use ot on my note 3 as well.
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Allure40 said:
I also had the same problem, first I cut one from my old S2, shifted past a few hours. So I order two from a german suplier on ebay specific to the gear, and the same problem past few hours.
The problem is in the glass of the Gear being curved.
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So are you without screen protector like me?
For now yes, but I think I will give a try to liquid-kristal, tks for sharing Thelestat . Should give some extra protection, with the advantage of being completely invisible.
I've heard some reports of gear's whith Glass scratched on the wrist. Must be due to some clothes we wear.
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Dry screen protectors will fall off. It s meant for straight flush glass only. I just cut out any wet screen Protector and it works well for the glass and metal. Xtremeguard has 80% off their website.
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I purchased screen savers for my Gear from a company selling on Amazon.de. I have had no end of problems trying to convince this company that though the quality of the screen saver is great the point is it will not remain on the Gear, as people above have already mentioned, the body and glass are curved. What happens is the stiffness of the saver results in both ends of the saver sticking up, getting caught on clothes and coming away.
The only solution I can think of is for a manufacturer to produce a thinner protector that will bend to shape and remain stuck to the screen?
The company I purchased from requested photos and goodness knows what. I just filled a claim with Amazon.de and got my money back. I am not going to do the R&D for the company! I bought three of them as in general screen savers can, on times, be a devil to fit.
The glass will and does scratch so take care.
Kind regards.
A good screen protector thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46707863
Screen Protectors?
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thelestat said:
I use:
http://www.liquid-kristall.com/en/home/1-0.html
may not be as effective as a plastic one, but it's invisible and it's working so far. Use ot on my note 3 as well.
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Did you apply to the gear camera and the metal frame as well?
I did apply to the camera, did not think to do the metal frame.
If your cutting it out of another type, I found you need to round the edges. the corners that lift up, if the are sharp, will get caught on everything
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I did apply to the camera, did not think to do the metal frame.
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Any difference to the pictures? as in blurr or smoky? Cos the lens is plastic...not sure if it makes a difference.
I figured i'll be using the Liquid Kristall for the gear.
Since after applying you can't see a layer on the screen....makes one wonder if there is actually any protection on the screen

M8 rear camera cover scratches

So, I've had my m8 for a month and a half maybe, with a spigen slim armor case on it at all times. After cleaning my rear lens cover yesterday ( with a soft microfiber cloth) I noticed many small scratches right above the lens area.. Seriously?? I am super careful with my phone, considering I'm really into mobile photography as well. Is the cover made out of plastic?? Whenever I had whipped it in the past, always used extreme care. I can't believe that it's scratched.. Really bums me out that htc would use such weak materials to cover the camera lens. Other than that, the phone is great, no doubt. I can't imagine what it's going to look like in 6 months though.. Any others noticed the same ?
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Mine is scratched to hell . my pics look hazy . there has been a lot of people with the same issue and some have been getting there's replaced .
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After reading some threads like this I ordered a protector to cover both lenses. Wish I could remember the name now, but you get 2 sets for $3 and I've not seen any effect in pictures. God I wish I could remember the name. Would search but late for work.
Edit: Slickwraps.com
do you guys have cases cuz i have a
OB and mine are fine!
Mine!
I do not use a case, my preference.
My camera window is also scratched with a lot of micro scratches.
My question is, if people are replacing the windows, where are they purchasing the part from? Anyone have a link to a replacement parts site?
I use a tpu case . this is the only smart phone I've had that had this issue and I've owned a lot .
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stop putting your phone in your pocket often
I actually was able to remove scratches...I sprayed resurfacing fluid from a CD scratch repair kit then put a dab of toothpaste on my fingertip and rubbed it in for about a min or two....scratches gone and pics are clear
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After doing some additional research, I found many people having the same issue, that is possibly caused by heating, resulting in the coating not sticking correctly. There is also the assumption that the protective coating was never removed when manufacturing/assembly. I noticed that with slight pressure with just my fingernail on the front camera , same thing happens.. the coating scratches. And btw (for who thinks this is the cause) having the phone in your pocket has zero effect on this issue. I baby my phone , and always have a case on it, and would never put in anything else. Glad there is a simple fix, by removing the coating. However, a good idea would be to purchase a lens protector from slickwrapes just in case.
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After doing some additional research, I found many people having the same issue, that is possibly caused by heating, resulting in the coating not sticking correctly. There is also the assumption that the protective coating was never removed when manufacturing/assembly. I noticed that with slight pressure with just my fingernail on the front camera , same thing happens.. the coating scratches. And btw (for who thinks this is the cause) having the phone in your pocket has zero effect on this issue. I baby my phone , and always have a case on it, and would never put in anything else. Glad there is a simple fix, by removing the coating. However, a good idea would be to purchase a lens protector from slickwrapes just in case.
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they why do i have the issuse, i even keep it in my purse at times
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I actually was able to remove scratches...I sprayed resurfacing fluid from a CD scratch repair kit then put a dab of toothpaste on my fingertip and rubbed it in for about a min or two....scratches gone and pics are clear
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Yup, got mine almost done too.. Need a little extra work around the edge, and it's all clear again. I was really bummed out about this until I found out that there was a solution. I love my M8 once again lol. Looks like the front camera has the same thing as well.
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Looks like it happened to me as well. Lens cleaner and microfiber cloth took care of it for me.
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It happened to me too. My camera lens cover got all scratched and pictures were coming out really hazy... I took mine to sprint i told them I think its a camera software issue and they ordered me a new one. I'll be sure to take better care of this new one.
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Looks like it happened to me as well. Lens cleaner and microfiber cloth took care of it for me.
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Did it take the scratches off?
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Did it take the scratches off?
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Well yes, but idk how they got there. My front camera and duo lens were the ones affected. I always have a case on and never have put my phone in any pockets. Only idea I have is cleaning my phone, in which I clean the lenses but shouldn't "scratch" from that. Just seems like a cheap clear coat that easily removes.
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Still waterproof?

Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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jonke11 said:
Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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Man I really don't know.. I don't think you'll face issues even trying to take it underwater, but still if you don't know whether the film cracked too you should try to replace it.. If the asf is ok, then you should be ok bro....
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No....
A crack means no longer airtight.
jonke11 said:
Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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I...wouldn't try it. I think your phone just became "oh #*&$" accident water proof. ie. if you drop it in the neighbors pool or something on accident you're probably fine, but I wouldn't put the "1.5 meters/30 minutes" part to the test anytime soon.
This also probably compromises any warranty given on the water proofness. If they see that it has a cracked back they could easily use that as an excuse not to repair it under warranty claim.
Just like i thought guys, but i think its still waterproof, because the film helps glass keep in his place, and the edges of the glass is still glued. That crack is like hair, really small. Ill try to take a picture in the evening, because its morningright now.
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That white spot is from fingers, try to see that little line, i circle it
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I really cant see that line without sun shine, because its really small.
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Why ask us at all then if you aren't going to heed our advice anyway?
You sound like you have your mind made up, so what was the point of this thread?
Water will find it's way. If this crack is all trought, it WILL find it's way.
I jus want your opinion guys
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I jus want your opinion guys
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Well, as an engineer (electrical/electronics with experience in mechanical), my opinion is no, definitely not. I wouldn't risk it.
That being said, it sounds like you have yoour mind made up regardless.
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Well, as an engineer (electrical/electronics with experience in mechanical), my opinion is no, definitely not. I wouldn't risk it.
That being said, it sounds like you have yoour mind made up regardless.
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Really thanks! You really answered my question!
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I'm still wondering: why shouldn't it be waterproof if the film is COMPLETELY covering the glass crack? I actually don't know if what I just said is true because I can't get a damn nothing from that pic :')
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I'm still wondering: why shouldn't it be waterproof if the film is COMPLETELY covering the glass crack? I actually don't know if what I just said is true because I can't get a damn nothing from that pic :')
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The film could have scratches or little tears in it itself...
Plus who is to say that the film isn't slightly lifted.
You are betting on a lot on a very thin layer of plastic.
Is it worth the price of a new phone?
It's like when you put beers in a cooler. Wait for the ice to melt and you'll see all the stickers on the beer bootle lift up and float on the water.
Simple physics, water will find the smallest whole, smallest gap, smalest opening and make it trough. That's the reason not all devices are IP rated, most of them don't even bother to manufacture something "tight" enough to get a rating, and even if they do, it's more likely a IPX7, not IPX8 like Xperia's.
Water is strong, and it will find its way.
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/support/discover-more/water-and-dust-resistance/ look guys, Sony xperia z1 ip58
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Yeah guys you're probably right.. The risk is not worth it
As already mentioned here.
It is not worth the risk, you get water in the phone and no warranty, because there is damage on the phone that was not there when you received the phone.
If a phone goes in that has water damage. They clean all the flaps to ensure no debris, then close them, then test the phone to ensure that the phone is watertight at 1.5m for about 30 minutes.
Water in phone = warranty, no water in phone = no warranty. It would be determined that water in the phone had to be lack of care from the user, not keeping flaps clean, closing them properly or even leaving them open.
Further to this, I am certain they would just say the crack in the glass was the issue, again deemed to be user negligence.
I've faced this problem before. I drop my phone on 3 feet high, and crack my front tempered glass protector. And guess what? My phone dead when I submerged it underwater for less than 30s. And yes, water going inside.
if you got air tester machine u lucky but i recommend you bring to sony center
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