Multitasking always kills the browser - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I cannot for the life of me get my browser to stay in memory. Every time I go go a small app, say music or messaging, the browser usually has to reload when I return to it.
What gives? Dealt with with this same crap on the evo lte last year and that was the main reason I got rid of it. This phone has 2gb of ram but still does the same...
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Hmm... doesn't happen on mine. Maybe you have a rogue app eating all of your memories.

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Background apps

What are all these appear running in bkgrnd. Maps market ect. Gps isn't on. Havnt used maps. Why when I go to atk. Do I have like 10 apps. Running.?
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Bump. 10 char
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Just part of android. Also, task killers won't help, unless you set them to auto kill ever 5 seconds, in which case your battery life will suffer. My opinion, get rid of task killer. Then you won't see how many things are running in the background. If the system needs more memory, it will kill thebackground stuff untilit has what it needs.
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Best task manager for Nexus S

Just got my Nexus S 4G today and I was wondering what's the best task manager for our phone ... thanks
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Theirs no need for one mate. I was fond of using a task manager on all my phones but on this beats of a device you do not need one.
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lcr44ramirez said:
Theirs no need for one mate. I was fond of using a task manager on all my phones but on this beats of a device you do not need one.
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OK cool thanks for the info man, I'm so use to one coming from a SGS4G
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He's right, you don't need one. Especially third party ones. If you really need to kill a task or two, though, then the built in task manager will do the trick. Just a note though, killing cached tasked doesn't actually free up space (in my experience anyways).
He's right, you don't need one. Especially third party ones. If you really need to kill a task or two, though, then the built in task manager will do the trick. Just a note though, killing cached tasked doesn't actually free up space (in my experience anyways).
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This will sound dumb but how do I get to the built in task manager ... sorry this phone is a bit different than the SGS4G
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Yogi3 said:
This will sound dumb but how do I get to the built in task manager ... sorry this phone is a bit different than the SGS4G
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Menu - Settings - Applications - Manage Applications.
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Menu - Settings - Applications - Manage Applications.
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That's the long way.
Just press menu and choose Manage Applications
Or add a shortcut to it on homescreen.
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Thanks guys for you're help and them what do I do after that?
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On the Running tab you will see all running applications and services. Click the one you want to stop and then click stop.
FYI I have never had a need to do this. You're more likely to harm then good when you go killing tasks in Android 2.2 or higher.
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matt2053 said:
On the Running tab you will see all running applications and services. Click the one you want to stop and then click stop.
FYI I have never had a need to do this. You're more likely to harm then good when you go killing tasks in Android 2.2 or higher.
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Oh OK I did not know this ... and again thanks all of you for you're input I greatly appreciate it
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Yogi3 said:
Just got my Nexus S 4G today and I was wondering what's the best task manager for our phone ... thanks
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I still thinking Advanced Task Killer is a lot simpler since it has a widget that lets me kill all wanted apps on one click.
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I still thinking Advanced Task Killer is a lot simpler since it has a widget that lets me kill all wanted apps on one click.
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Can I ask in what circumstances you do this? I don't understand why people kill applications.
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matt2053 said:
Can I ask in what circumstances you do this? I don't understand why people kill applications.
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if he wants to cripple his phone, let him cripple his phone.
after all, its his choice.... then afterwards, if hes complaining about poor battery life, something not working.. then we'll just sit there and be like "told ya so!"
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Can I ask in what circumstances you do this? I don't understand why people kill applications.
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Usually I kill apps when I feel its getting a bit slow. I do not know why but sometimes my apps use the memory leaving only 50mb left, and that makes the phone laggy and sh*t. Should it be like that? maybe I have virus?
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Usually I kill apps when I feel its getting a bit slow. I do not know why but sometimes my apps use the memory leaving only 50mb left, and that makes the phone laggy and sh*t. Should it be like that? maybe I have virus?
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What do you need that memory for? It is there to be used by your phone, let your phone use it. It does not cause your phone to slow down.
Memory is there so that your phone can load data from storage and get it quickly to the CPU. That is why the memory is there. Android keeps important information in memory. Then it can move it quickly to CPU when needed.
It sounds like you would prefer the phone to not use any of the memory in which case I ask why have memory at all then?
"Free memory" is wasted memory.
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they are right, on 2.2 and up there is never a need for an appkiller. the way the OS is designed its able to keep all its apps in memory, that was one of the primary changes in 2.2 from 2.1. try not using it and see how it runs, just resist the compulsory need to kill apps XD
If you are using cm, you can use long back press to kill foreground app too. Enable in programs, dev
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Try using a BFS kernel, it doesn't kill apps, but gives the app in the foreground more resources
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Usually I kill apps when I feel its getting a bit slow. I do not know why but sometimes my apps use the memory leaving only 50mb left, and that makes the phone laggy and sh*t. Should it be like that? maybe I have virus?
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Please do yourself a favor and read this article -
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
You know it's hard to say. Google TELLS you you shouldn't need a task manager, and if Steve jobs told you this, would you be fuming and flaming Apple?
But seriously, the reason we shouldnt need it is because Google has a decent RAM managing system. But it's not really THAT great. What ends up happening is we play with stuff like minfree and mess with foreground memory usage and stuff. The truth is Google's memory management isn't perfect. That's why we brute force add RAM to our devices goign from 256mb in the Droid to 512mb and to 768mb in some HTC devices and now 1gb in the Atrix and SGS2.
It's pathetic because I come from the 256mb Milestone. Instead of optimizing memory use on an Android device, we have to go overboard. People keep saying task managers aren't necessary, but in Milestone development we mod the hell out of the memory management of Android.
True, task managers and autokilling shouldn't be necessary, but at the same time it won't kill your battery life UNLESS it's doing killing every 5 minutes or something. Once an hour will probably dent your battery life by 1% at most anyway.
The usefulness of task killers is often overstated, but the negatives are often overstated as well.

the LAG thread --__--

Hey
just wanted to start a thread about the lag i've experienced on my nexus 7 and wanted to know who else has experienced it. With me its happened randomly a few times like ill exit an app then when i swipe through the home screen its really jerky. my unit isnt rooted, everything stock even the launcher.
So yeah if anyone has experienced it post BELOWWWWWWWW (ray william johnson voice) lol.
Just wanted to add this link http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=37258 for people to visit to help raise awareness to Google about the issue.
Have you gotten the latest update?
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Make sure you aren't using a 3rd party rotation app such as 'Ultimate Rotation Control'
also please update to 4.1.1
Not a single issue here... Google accomplished project butter in my opinion...
You may have an issue with the Tablet...
You'll find that the best way to make your case is to take a video of it, so we don't have to rely on your word alone.
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You'll find that the best way to make your case is to take a video of it, so we don't have to rely on your word alone.
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Trust me I wouldn't make this up. And your right but every time it happened I was no where near my phone. Yeah it was updated to 4.1.1. I've read a review in this thread about his not that smooth as well. I'd say download a few apps and try make it multi-task and let me know.
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Who knows, you could have a defective unit. Probably not though, so maybe your best bet is keep your phone nearby for when it happens again. The only lag I'm willing to admit at this point is the stock keyboard and swiftkey, if you're a speedy typer. However, if you turn off "spell checker" (ridiculous that they haven't fixed it yet), then you should be fine.
No lag here, try a factory reset, i usually do a factory reset on all my new devices before setting them up.
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Who knows, you could have a defective unit. Probably not though, so maybe your best bet is keep your phone nearby for when it happens again. The only lag I'm willing to admit at this point is the stock keyboard and swiftkey, if you're a speedy typer. However, if you turn off "spell checker" (ridiculous that they haven't fixed it yet), then you should be fine.
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Should of but sent it back for a replacement. Had the screen rising on the left,lagging and mofo random reboots! Gooooosh!! My unit was stressed out lol
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My nexus 7 was lagging too, it was after i installed this one app. I uninstalled the app and it would still lag but only on the homescreen. I removed the play store media widget and the lag disappeared. I have about 8 widgets (constantly refreshing) and a live wallpaper and still lag free. If you still have that default media widget, try removing it.
Though I still see lag, mostly when im downloading apps or they're installing but once the app is done downloading/installiung the lag goes away. This same issue happens on pretty much every android device i've ever owned, even happens on my iphone so not a big deal.
I have this issue as well. The two times I noticed it I was browsing with chrome and the scrolling started to lag. I exited the app but I would still have lag throughout the device; it would also not recognize my touch all the time, I would have to click something multiple times. Not sure whats causing it.
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I'm getting some lag too... Tomorrow I should receive my other unit from Google and ill try them both. It's sad cause my dual core nexus performs better
It lags because of the poor memory (poor i/o). This happened on the Transformer prime, the memory limited the device speed and lags when your either installing an app, uni stalling or transferring.
Also don't forget that especially on the first day tons of stuff gets synced in the background. When I setup my new devices the first day is almost laggy for some hours until all syncs are done.
Tegra devices doesn't have the greatest memory bandwith.
solid009 said:
I have this issue as well. The two times I noticed it I was browsing with chrome and the scrolling started to lag. I exited the app but I would still have lag throughout the device; it would also not recognize my touch all the time, I would have to click something multiple times. Not sure whats causing it.
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Yeah thank you! What happened to me! Sooo random... I know my unit isn't a defect.. I just think project butter has a hiccup... opening the app drawer was bad as well then bang..... the lag would go... :-/.
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I'm getting some lag too... Tomorrow I should receive my other unit from Google and ill try them both. It's sad cause my dual core nexus performs better
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Can you let us know how the other unit gets on
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I been getting a lot of lag after playing any heavy game. N64oid Max Payne shadowgun gta3. I always have to reboot or the tablet is unusable. Its not really lag though its more like the touch screen only works 10 percent of the time you touch it until I reboot. Like if i try to drag an app around the desktop it just keeps dropping like I lifted my finger up. And it does it in any app after even if I kill all in memory. And I had mine since Friday its happened almost everytime.
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I been getting a lot of lag after playing any heavy game. N64oid Max Payne shadowgun gta3. I always have to reboot or the tablet is unusable. Its not really lag though its more like the touch screen only works 10 percent of the time you touch it until I reboot. Like if i try to drag an app around the desktop it just keeps dropping like I lifted my finger up. And it does it in any app after even if I kill all in memory. And I had mine since Friday its happened almost everytime.
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i have been getting so much lag around the os, especially in the stock launcher
lovenokia said:
i have been getting so much lag around the os, especially in the stock launcher
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I know what you mean. Its like quad core my ass lol more like single core. I just sent mine off for a replacement. I hope the new unit I get soon is better or Google has some coding and explaining to do --_--.
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Not seeing it here with Nexus 7 plugged into wall and switching between the built-in apps and also downloaded apps such Glow Ball, Soulcraft THD Beta, Google Voice, etc.
Are you guys seeing this with it running off of battery (possibly power profile/CPU throttling) or plugged in?

[Q] Multitasking.- fixed or not?

I love the look of this phone, and I was insanely happy with my One X but I had to make the jump to the S3 (and later the Note 2) because of the multitasking woes that plagued the phone. No matter how I phrase an internet search I can't hear any preview that addresses the issue that many review sites completely ignored the last time around.
So the bottom line question is this: Will the M7 have standard multitasking? (I.e. the phone does NOT refresh applications/web pages/etc in an effort to conserve battery life).
+1 this was my biggest gripe with the hox....I switched to the gs3 as well but looking to possibility move back to htc if this has been fixed
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Indeed. HTC has fantastic build quality (I'd easily put the one X with any iPhone). If it had multitasking I'd put up with a non removable battery. Especially since I tend to watch a lot of Netflix lately while waiting for classes and I love the idea of the speaker placements on the m7.
And the one X still had the best camera I'd ever had on a smartphone)
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Sorry guys can you clarify about the multitasking issue on the HTC One X? I had an Nexus phone a few years back and thought all Android phones fully multitasked out the box so to speak.
Android has multi tasking but i heard htc one x broke that. When you switch to another app and comeback using recent apps that app would need to be reopened which means it gets terminated even if you dont kill it
It has been fixed on the One according to all the videos I've seen
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Do you have a link?
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daleski75 said:
Sorry guys can you clarify about the multitasking issue on the HTC One X? I had an Nexus phone a few years back and thought all Android phones fully multitasked out the box so to speak.
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The HTC One X had the worst multi tasking of any phone. You could literally go between just two apps and they apps would have to completely reload. They would not even be in a save state. For instance, i would be surfing the internet, go text real quick and come back, only to find my internet had to reload the whole page I was just on 30 seconds ago. It was horrible. It ruined the phone for a lot of people. And forget about trying to switch between any more apps lol. I'm not sure if HTC even acknowledged it, or I believe they said "that is just how it works". If I had known it was that bad, I would have got the s3 over it. But I bought one of the first ones so woe is me.
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Do you have a link?
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What I said is based on those hundred of One videos I've watched. Still I'll post if I manage to get a link
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I found a German video right here where you can see it.
At 2:32 you can see it.
This video is short but quite informing also if you dont understand german.
lg chris115379
sorry but i don't see anything in that video that shows that the HTC one has true multi tasking?
i hope all the people who have played with the demo units can let us know.
It seems pretty clear to me from that video that it does.
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It seems pretty clear to me from that video that it does.
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Just to clarify:
People aren't asking if the HTC One can multitask, it is obvious that it can.
We are asking:
How is the memory management on the phone? Does it unload app quickly, like the HTC One X? Or does it save them in memory.
With the HTC One X, if u opened a webpage, then went to the home scream, once u returned to the webpage it would reload instead of staying in memory.
We want to know if basicly this behaviour is still present? Or if it stays in memory.
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Just to clarify:
People aren't asking if the HTC One can multitask, it is obvious that it can.
We are asking:
How is the memory management on the phone? Does it unload app quickly, like the HTC One X? Or does it save them in memory.
With the HTC One X, if u opened a webpage, then went to the home scream, once u returned to the webpage it would reload instead of staying in memory.
We want to know if basicly this behaviour is still present? Or if it stays in memory.
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Hello! I'm not sure about this problem but do you have a HTC One X? If so did you guys ever check the defined values of it's OOM settings already? Since that's the one that handles the killing of background apps etc.
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It seems pretty clear to me from that video that it does.
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can you please explain how the video demonstrates the multi task for me then? thanks.
this issue with the multi tasking we're referring to was the modification made by HTC in Sense. see here:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/17/htc-confirms-one-x-multitasking-tweaks-in-sense-4/
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The HTC One X had the worst multi tasking of any phone. You could literally go between just two apps and they apps would have to completely reload. They would not even be in a save state. For instance, i would be surfing the internet, go text real quick and come back, only to find my internet had to reload the whole page I was just on 30 seconds ago. It was horrible. It ruined the phone for a lot of people. And forget about trying to switch between any more apps lol. I'm not sure if HTC even acknowledged it, or I believe they said "that is just how it works". If I had known it was that bad, I would have got the s3 over it. But I bought one of the first ones so woe is me.
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This is how android multitasking works. Sucks. I tried HTC one x and s3, same. I don't think there's a problem with 2gb ram
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wednesday13 said:
This is how android multitasking works. Sucks. I tried HTC one x and s3, same. I don't think there's a problem with 2gb ram
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It all depends on your minfree values. With minfree values you/HTC can set the phone to close apps at certain memory values, to have a certain memory free when you are using apps.
Higher minfrees= more apps closed= more ram available to the few opened apps
Lower minfrees=more apps opened= less ram available to the many open apps.
All this can be changed once you root the phone so I wouldn't worry what it comes with. The beauty of Android is that EVERYTHING basically can be changed. That is if you root it There are about 1000000000 ways to do it
HOX Multitasking
Yes this was the initial behaviour of the HOX but since updating to Jelly Bean i have not noticed this anymore.
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This is how android multitasking works. Sucks. I tried HTC one x and s3, same. I don't think there's a problem with 2gb ram
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I've owned an S3 since release and rarely, if ever, have had this problem. Do you routinely use 30 apps at once or something?
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I've owned an S3 since release and rarely, if ever, have had this problem. Do you routinely use 30 apps at once or something?
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S3 with 2gb ram? Or 1gb ram? I open like 7 tabs on chrome then I get a launcher redraw for 1gb ram
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Multitasking

Do we know yet if htc has fixed the multitasking in the one. I had an x and x+ and the thing could not have more than a couple apps open at one time. It was quite annoying going into your mail app from the browser and having your browser reload when you go back into it. This drove me nuts.
If htc fixed that on the one I will be first in line to get one. If not then i will take a pass.
I read some article (hands-on) and it said multitasking is great, the phone just flew between apps
This is one thing I am looking for as well. I can't stand the multi tasking on my one x. It is completely useless. Couldn't even switch between two apps without having to reload them. I had also heard in one of the hands on videos I believe that they said the multi tasking had been fixed as well. But I'm still waiting for a thorough review.
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there are loads of videos of the new multitasking I think it shows 9cards like Web os style or bb10
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This is one thing I am looking for as well. I can't stand the multi tasking on my one x. It is completely useless. Couldn't even switch between two apps without having to reload them. I had also heard in one of the hands on videos I believe that they said the multi tasking had been fixed as well. But I'm still waiting for a thorough review.
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This is one thing I am looking for as well. I can't stand the multi tasking on my one x. It is completely useless. Couldn't even switch between two apps without having to reload them. I had also heard in one of the hands on videos I believe that they said the multi tasking had been fixed as well. But I'm still waiting for a thorough review.
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lol, did you legit just copy and paste Ddot's post?
But, yeah, I have the SGS3 now and it's nice to actually have multitasking compared to my HOX. I miss the non-pentile screen so much and I will definitely be pre-ordering one of these.
Lol hey I knew that post looked familiar! he was just quoting without the quotes heh. Yea I have the hox and my buddy has the s3 and it absolutely drives me nuts that he can actually multi task...I almost stopped using the button on this phone as it is near useless.
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i read that it is limited to the last 9 apps you have used (which is more than enough i think)
so hopefully that means they have sorted it but could only get the last 9 working.
I'm fine with the last 9 working, as long as they are truly staying in some sort of saved state and pull back up to where you were at without reloading I'll be ecstatic.
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balto said:
Do we know yet if htc has fixed the multitasking in the one. I had an x and x+ and the thing could not have more than a couple apps open at one time. It was quite annoying going into your mail app from the browser and having your browser reload when you go back into it. This drove me nuts.
If htc fixed that on the one I will be first in line to get one. If not then i will take a pass.
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Bad multitasking is a disaster .
Choose Samsung Galaxy Note 2 everything is great in this field.
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i read that it is limited to the last 9 apps you have used (which is more than enough i think)
so hopefully that means they have sorted it but could only get the last 9 working.
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9 apps only? With 2GB of RAM? A complete TRAGEDY!
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The problem is if those 9 apps are actually held in RAM or not. The HOX showed plenty of apps in the recent app list, it's just that they had all been killed already so it re-loaded from scratch.
Hopefully HTC have learnt, and if not then 2Gb RAM should make a difference too
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very nice
Any one get the ONE already can give some view on the mulitask performance?
If you you open several APP, like web browser and other APPs, when you switch back to web browser will it reload the pages?
Seems to work flawlessly none of the nine apps refresh
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The phone will not have any multitasking problems with 2 gigs of RAM.
One X had only 1 gb, that's why it sucked with more than 2 apps open.
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The phone will not have any multitasking problems with 2 gigs of RAM.
One X had only 1 gb, that's why it sucked with more than 2 apps open.
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1g shall work fine for multitask, but one x has special handling to deal with multitask that cause it a problem. It killed app when memory still very much.
So we need ONE user to give their feedback on how good it is now.
Can someone with the One make a video and post it up please.
Go to Youtube Desktop version, play the video to 1 min in, Press home, go into email app, Press home then go to task Switcher app, Click on Youtube and see if the video is still at 1 min mark or it refreshed.
Its a deal-breaker for me
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Can someone with the One make a video and post it up please.
Go to Youtube Desktop version, play the video to 1 min in, Press home, go into email app, Press home then go to task Switcher app, Click on Youtube and see if the video is still at 1 min mark or it refreshed.
Its a deal-breaker for me
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This would be interesting to know... Its not a deal breaker for me as memory management is fairly easy to modify with root. But it will still be annoying.
Root never fixed it on the one x for me despite tweaking
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tvp480 said:
Can someone with the One make a video and post it up please.
Go to Youtube Desktop version, play the video to 1 min in, Press home, go into email app, Press home then go to task Switcher app, Click on Youtube and see if the video is still at 1 min mark or it refreshed.
Its a deal-breaker for me
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Seems to work ok on the YouTube app (not desktop) although it had moved on to 1:03 when I got back
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