So i saw that gameloft was optimising games for the s4, to run in quad-core
so if they optimise it for quad-core, won't it make the perfomance better for nexus 7? since the perfomance mostly suck because isn't optimised for the quad-cores of nexus 7?
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So i saw that gameloft was optimising games for the s4, to run in quad-core
so if they optimise it for quad-core, won't it make the perfomance better for nexus 7? since the perfomance mostly suck because isn't optimised for the quad-cores of nexus 7?
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What games are you having a problem with? Cause my nexus 7 runs everything I have thrown at it without problem.
i still don't have, but i am looking forward to buy it. but by the vids i see n.o.v.a 3 is very laggy and doesn't have all the effects. asphalt 7 is kind of laggy.
so if they optimise for quad-core will it run better?
The snapdragon s4 is world's ahead of the Tegra 3. The Tegra 3 performs like a 2011 dual core, at least according to 3D mark. My Nexus 7 benches the same as my old vivid. My vivid has a dual core Qualcomm snapdragon s3. My Nexus 4 however is about 4 times higher score so no I don't think gameloft optimizing for a Qualcomm will make a difference.
Really screw gameloft anyway. All their games are cheesy rip offs with terrible stories and their stuff all performs like garbage on the n7 while everyone else's stuff works fine.
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pin70 said:
So i saw that gameloft was optimising games for the s4, to run in quad-core
so if they optimise it for quad-core, won't it make the perfomance better for nexus 7? since the perfomance mostly suck because isn't optimised for the quad-cores of nexus 7?
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You're talking Snapdragon 600 versus Tegra3. Optimizations for one don't necessarily pertain to the other
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M'kay thanks for reply.
pin70 said:
i still don't have, but i am looking forward to buy it. but by the vids i see n.o.v.a 3 is very laggy and doesn't have all the effects. asphalt 7 is kind of laggy.
so if they optimise for quad-core will it run better?
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NOVA3 runs lag-free on smooth rom and Franco kernel.
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did anyone try this yet?
http://www.gameloft.com/android-games/modern-combat-2-black-pegasus/
its one of the best 3d games i ever played on android, my desire HD is running it blazing fast
however gameloft downgraded the graphics for the qualcomm version, it seems gameloft decided to give priority to the hummingbird devices
compared to the galaxy S version, it lacks reflections on the weapons, character shadows, a blur effect when hit by bullets and maybe more stuff
i don't understand why gameloft keep releasing the same version for both the old snapdragon and 2nd gen snapdragon devices
seeing how crazy fast the frame rate is running on the DHD, its obvious the adreno 205 can do much more
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did anyone try this yet?
http://www.gameloft.com/android-games/modern-combat-2-black-pegasus/
its one of the best 3d games i ever played on android, my desire HD is running it blazing fast
however gameloft downgraded the graphics for the qualcomm version, it seems gameloft decided to give priority to the hummingbird devices
compared to the galaxy S version, it lacks reflections on the weapons, character shadows, a blur effect when hit by bullets and maybe more stuff
i don't understand why gameloft keep releasing the same version for both the old snapdragon and 2nd gen snapdragon devices
seeing how crazy fast the frame rate is running on the DHD, its obvious the adreno 205 can do much more
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i have this game too its great, but gameloft have reasons for that, adreno cant shift half as many polygons as the powervr in the galaxy series, just look at ashpalt 5, even the DHD can only just run it with minimal slowdown, but the galaxy version looks amazing with reflections on the cars and more realistic tarmac, and powervr runs it with no hickups at all. i like my DHD though, if i wanted to play games that badly, id just fire up my xbox
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i have this game too its great, but gameloft have reasons for that, adreno cant shift half as many polygons as the powervr in the galaxy series, just look at ashpalt 5, even the DHD can only just run it with minimal slowdown, but the galaxy version looks amazing with reflections on the cars and more realistic tarmac, and powervr runs it with no hickups at all. i like my DHD though, if i wanted to play games that badly, id just fire up my xbox
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i dont agree about asphalt 5 the dhd runs all gameloft games at very high frame rates, modern combat 2 is running at 60fps without a hiccup once
but i didnt know even asphalt is downgraded in terms of effects
my point is adreno 205 is quit capable and samsung figures about the power vr chipset are not accurate
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i dont agree about asphalt 5 the dhd runs all gameloft games at very high frame rates, modern combat 2 is running at 60fps without a hiccup once
but i didnt know even asphalt is downgraded in terms of effects
my point is adreno 205 is quit capable and samsung figures about the power vr chipset are not accurate
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its not just gameloft games, for example the galaxy s verson of NFS Shift looks amazing compared to the snapdragon version. it doesnt help that devs can't be arsed making better looking games for our version of adreno, they just make a snapdragon version. so ours our dumbed down so the desire and evo can play them
exactly my point, adreno was much improved with model 205, but i don't see gameloft bothering
by the way NFS can be hacked to play in high resolution
someone posted the hack a while ago in this forum, i tried it and it really works
maybe we can mix the galaxy S gameloft games with the snapdragon ones the same way
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exactly my point, adreno was much improved with model 205, but i don't see gameloft bothering
by the way NFS can be hacked to play in high resolution
someone posted the hack a while ago in this forum, i tried it and it really works
maybe we can mix the galaxy S gameloft games with the snapdragon ones the same way
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omap cpu's like the hummingbird use diffrent textures dont they
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omap cpu's like the hummingbird use diffrent textures dont they
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yes Motorola has their version from gameloft or at least its own SD cache
i only bought the lg 2x for 3 weeks, and this is sad to watch.
However, i don't see the point of the gpu being such powerful, since android does not have any thing to push the gpu at all besides benchmark. This is a good way to make myself feel better.
I would like to know is there difference between Tegra 2 cpu vs Exynos cpu at all?? besides Exynos gpu being so much more powerful than Tegra 2?
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oh thats just terrible
Now my O2x are completely useless - it will just stop functioning im sure
No wait - thats not right - whats happening, it still works ? My games still play, I can still read the news, I can still do all the things I did yesterday.
It's just a benchmark - does it really matter that much ?
Those are just numbers in my opinion.
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I might have wrong, but that benchmark is made for mobile gpus and tegra 2 is not like normal mobile gpus it's more like a desktop gpu. A eight core gpu can't be beaten by a quad core or?
Tegra is our one, probably futile, hope of future proofing our phones.
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Don't expect Tegra to lead benchmarks for a while until mobile graphics are more geared towards immediate mode rendering (Stuff more like PC graphics.). Everyone else uses Tile-based rendering. I believe NVidia did this to avoid changing the rendering (which changes the drivers even more and etc) once they reach "console-level" graphics. The Tegra 2 will excel in a few things. Don't expect it to be the best performer for now. Expect it to be a capable one.
Don't forget. SGS II is capped to 60fps and we won't know what it's truly capable of
I've seen several gaming videos and the tegra walks all over the Orion. I do agree that push for tegras are the last hope for a unified gaming platform and I think it will work. Nvidia has this backed and will see it through.
i am really sick of the fact every android phone has its own different games on each platform. same game cant be run on different android phones. this is stupid.
its one of the reasons i like Nvidia. they are trying to do something good here for once. you see all those samsung galaxy S2 hardware. but where all the games ? those same games i can play on nexus S. with good frames too. however with nvidia and tegra 2, the users are getting exclusive games that can take advantage of the hardware. thats nice for a change.
let the galaxy S2 owners have fun with there powerful phone on paper. at the end of the day. the Tegra 2 owners are the people who are getting the best looking games.
i am not saying i hate S2. because i will buy it as soon as i can. i love super amoled and the techs for the phone. but if i want a pure gaming phone. tegra 2 wins hands down. not because its the most powerful. but because there are exclusive games that take advantage of that GPU.
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ll_l_x_l_ll said:
ithe reasons i like Nvidia. they are trying to do something good here for once.
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No their not, they're taking games already under development which Android users were going to see anyway regardless of nvidia's involvement and paying the developers off to make them exclusive titles, this is a bad thing as most Android users will lose out because of it.
One of the Tegra 2 only pinball games once cracked works fine on a legend ffs!
Benchmarks are just numbers. Real life performance is what counts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkEUOA6Spo
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Benchmarks are just numbers. Real life performance is what counts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkEUOA6Spo
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What are we looking at exactly? Looks like they're both just playing a video
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What are we looking at exactly? Looks like they're both just playing a video
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this video shows at how the flash player performance is on web browsing watching a video and at this point watching an anime on both phones
so you can see that samsung galaxy with exynos and with 1.2ghz against lg2x nvidia tegra2 with 1ghz and lg optimus 2x seems for me faster for playing videos at this ..!i wanna only know if lg use stock 2.2.2 at this video against samsung galaxy s2 2.3.3 stock
lets compare those two videos and see that there are no differences between samsung s 2 and lg2x
and again dont forget...lg 2x has stock 2.2.2 rom
samsung galaxy s 2 has gingerbread 2.3.3 wich supposed to be faster..
think that when lg 2x will get official ginger 2.3.4 at this summer
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web browsing comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO0gSLf73AI
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No their not, they're taking games already under development which Android users were going to see anyway regardless of nvidia's involvement and paying the developers off to make them exclusive titles, this is a bad thing as most Android users will lose out because of it.
One of the Tegra 2 only pinball games once cracked works fine on a legend ffs!
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True, and Nvidia is causing fragmentation by using their own compression formats. Afaik Mali supports the one and only standard format, but that don't help much when Nvidia is paying off devs to use their proprietary stuff. Yeah not very techical i know, but check out the SGS2 thread for more info.
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Hi, Moto X will arrive here in Brazil at august 3 and i'm very excited for this phone which i'm sure will be my next, in this moment I have the Razr i <3
So, how is the gaming perfomance in this Phone? someone already tried Asphalt 8 and see if it runs at High graphics?
I just saw everyone talking about Active notifications, touchless controls and many other things but no one talks about gaming performance, so i'm curious
If someone could show in video how is the gaming performance it would be great
I'm sorry for my bad english =)
Well if you are looking for graphics performance it scored a 11286 score on 3dmark benchmark which is pretty dang good. It plays rr3 super smooth and no lag really at all on any thing else I've thrown at it
Contrary to most peoples belief the phone has some pretty beastly capabilities judging from the use I have tested.
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Couple the adreno 320 gpu with only 720p resolution and you get AWESOME gaming performance! NOVA 3 runs better on this thing than it did on my HTC One and my GS4 Active. NFS Most Wanted also runs flawlessly. I'll download Asphalt 8 and report back, but I am confident that it too will run without a hiccup.
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Well if you are looking for graphics performance it scored a 11286 score on 3dmark benchmark which is pretty dang good. It plays rr3 super smooth and no lag really at all on any thing else I've thrown at it
Contrary to most peoples belief the phone has some pretty beastly capabilities judging from the use I have tested.
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exiting to get mine *.*
_MetalHead_ said:
Couple the adreno 320 gpu with only 720p resolution and you get AWESOME gaming performance! NOVA 3 runs better on this thing than it did on my HTC One and my GS4 Active. NFS Most Wanted also runs flawlessly. I'll download Asphalt 8 and report back, but I am confident that it too will run without a hiccup.
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Great!! I just wanted to know if Asphalt 8 runs at the highest graphics because asphalt 8 is locked the medium and high graphics in some phones, on my razr i for example it runs only in low graphics, and is locked the medium and high
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exiting to get mine *.*
Great!! I just wanted to know if Asphalt 8 runs at the highest graphics because asphalt 8 is locked the medium and high graphics in some phones, on my razr i for example it runs only in low graphics, and is locked the medium and high
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Just downloaded it. It defaults to medium but you can set it to high. I just did 2 races on high and it ran smooth as butter with zero noticeable frame rate drops.
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Just downloaded it. It defaults to medium but you can set it to high. I just did 2 races on high and it ran smooth as butter with zero noticeable frame rate drops.
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Greatt! This phone is powerful! Cant wait to buy mine *.* I heard that Moto Maker will be available here in Brazil too *.*
Let's just say that my phone managed to render a 1,000,000+ poly CAD model and animate it at 60FPS without hiccups while my friend's laptop with a dedicated GPU choked.
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iandr0idos said:
Let's just say that my phone managed to render a 1,000,000+ poly CAD model and animate it at 60FPS without hiccups while my friend's laptop with a dedicated GPU choked.
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What's your friends computer? A Dell laptop with intel graphics?
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What's your friends computer? A Dell laptop with intel graphics?
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An HP Envy.
Well just in specs, it has the same GPU as the HTC One and Sammy S4 yet only has to push around less than half the pixels. This phone is butter. Glad to see at least one company realizing that after a certain point GPU > CPU
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Let's just say that my phone managed to render a 1,000,000+ poly CAD model and animate it at 60FPS without hiccups while my friend's laptop with a dedicated GPU choked.
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tw1tch175 said:
Well just in specs, it has the same GPU as the HTC One and Sammy S4 yet only has to push around less than half the pixels. This phone is butter. Glad to see at least one company realizing that after a certain point GPU > CPU
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Great! Definitely it will be my next phone! i saw many videos on youtube of Moto X beating S4 and HTC One in performance, opening games is much faster than s4 and ONE
http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...r-graphics-performance-vs-apple-iphone-6-plus
I have see a Note 4 running GTA on YouTube,, and it was lagging badly..
Yes gpu delivers lower performance than iphone 6 but its not poor .both gpus have same power but 2k lowers note 4 performance but its still more powerful than ipad air which has lower res.
And the video u saw on youtube is quallcom version of note 4 and adreno gpu s always lagged on gta games on high setting due to lack of optimzation.
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http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...r-graphics-performance-vs-apple-iphone-6-plus
I have see a Note 4 running GTA on YouTube,, and it was lagging badly..
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So because it doesn't do well in one benchmark the GPU is somehow worthless? :silly: According to apple insider apparently the Geforce GTX 660TI is faster than an AMD 290X. That's some quality reporting right there.
Well I'm no expert but look up GTA Note 4 on YouTube, looks terribly laggy.
I'm hoping to get a Note 4 - but not if it can't perform..
Outside of that being Apple dedicated website, running just one benchmark and writing nonsense (they start writing about Note 4, then post preliminary??? cost analysis of GS 4???? from 1.5 yr ago, WTF) I'm not sure if it's propaganda or somebody overdose on something or maybe forgot his medication
I think both.
Not optimized. Performance WILL be fine on other games. Don't worry.
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Well I'm no expert but look up GTA Note 4 on YouTube, looks terribly laggy.
I'm hoping to get a Note 4 - but not if it can't perform..
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It's not lag. The camera just has a really low fps. Look at his other videos and even his hand moving looks like it "lags". It's just the camera don't worry.
You will be able to play most games, just not at the maximum settings, these tests are much more intensive than the mobile games, to the people talking about the screen resolution, there is also an offscreen test which doesn't care about the resolution and the scores are still lower.
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You will be able to play most games, just not at the maximum settings, these tests are much more intensive than the mobile games, to the people talking about the screen resolution, there is also an offscreen test which doesn't care about the resolution and the scores are still lower.
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offscreen tests care about res just not screen res. all offscreen tests done in 1080p and a8 gpu and note 4 gets around 17 fps on offscreen tests. and both higher than my ipad air and i can play everything at full without a stutter i dont think there will be any problem.
Oh no.. a poorly optimized game isn't as fast as it is on an iPhone. Oh jeez it MUST perform awful.. right?
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Oh, cmon guys, little reality check: Note 4 is one of, if not the fastest phone on the market ATM. If it can not play the games properly, nothing else can. In most benchmarks Exynos is as fast or faster than Snapdragon. There is something about this particular benchmark that makes Exynos run poorly, that's why it was picked for this article. And how come no Note4 Snapdragon version? Maybe because Snapdragon doesn't have the issue? The most opinionated bunch of crap I read in a long while.
So after seeing all these benchmarks, how the heck is the iPhone 6 plus faster than the nexus6? We've got 4 2.7ghz processor even though it is 32-bit compared to a dual core 1.4ghz 64-bit for the iPhone 6 plus... One of the reviews with benchmark figures is here
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Google-Nexus-6-vs-Apple-iPhone-6-Plus_id3854/page/2
How the heck is this possible, in graphics tests the iPhone has like 50% better performance according to this as well as other sites I looked at.
Can someone please explain this?
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nexus 6 vs iphone 6 vs note 4 speed test.. nexus 6 wins http://youtu.be/DV2X51kAVfc
Speed tests aside ... I had a 6 for 4 days to see if I would possibly like to switch. I didn't. I put it through it's paces and it is not even close to my N6. Now ... my previous N5 is slower but that's to be expected.
From that YouTube video it really seems like they were all the same, but it defiantly seems like the nexus 6 is slower at loading apps... Didn't really go over graphics performance which I thought was strange.... More detailed tests would be better...
I'll never buy an apple product in my life but I'm amazed at how that dual core processor can keep up with this quad core that is clocked twice as fast
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From that YouTube video it really seems like they were all the same, but it defiantly seems like the nexus 6 is slower at loading apps... Didn't really go over graphics performance which I thought was strange.... More detailed tests would be better...
I'll never buy an apple product in my life but I'm amazed at how that dual core processor can keep up with this quad core that is clocked twice as fast
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In the end of that video the Nexus 6 catches way up because of it's RAM, the iPhone 6 has to reload the apps entirely because it dumps them due to low memory.
Anyway, Android software has to support a very large range of hardware which lowers efficiency, and just the way it handles certain things about the OS is less efficient in general. iOS is much more streamlined for specific hardware and specific APIs, so it can do things very well for the hardware it has. Plus the graphics part of the iPhone6 processor is pretty beastly, no denying that. It is easily faster in raw power than the stuff in Snapdragons.
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From that YouTube video it really seems like they were all the same, but it defiantly seems like the nexus 6 is slower at loading apps... Didn't really go over graphics performance which I thought was strange.... More detailed tests would be better...
I'll never buy an apple product in my life but I'm amazed at how that dual core processor can keep up with this quad core that is clocked twice as fast
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You're forgetting that its a 720p display vs a 1440p display...
iOS runs everything compiled. ART helps bridge that gap somewhat, but not completely. The apps are run compiled, since they are compiled when installed, but they are not fully optimized. A good iOS app is compiled and optimized for the very limited variations of hardware it will run on. There is an expectation in the iOS world of separate iPad and iPhone apps. On the Android side, the expectation is that every app will run on every Android device ever produced, lol. So we are counting on a generic compiling. There is simply no way it will be as effective. Its one reason Samsung TouchWiz camera apps are always so much better than the generic ones--they were built and optimized for a particular device.
Also, you are putting too much emphasis on the processor. Apple learned some hard lessons in the powerPC Mac days. The GPU often has more influence over the user experience than the main processor, and the GPUs that Apple uses are top shelf.
So where does this adreno GPU lay? Doesn't nvidia offer a tegra or something as a GPU? I'd assume that is probably killer.. This is a top shelf phone I'd just expect more... And the battery life is horrid I can't believe it. Gonna have to keep a charger with me at all times its that bad. This charge just last me about 6 hrs on medium usage
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and remember, the iPhone is a 1.5ghz dual core, the n6 2.65ghz quad core. that said, id stll want my device to be an android.
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So after seeing all these benchmarks, how the heck is the iPhone 6 plus faster than the nexus6? We've got 4 2.7ghz processor even though it is 32-bit compared to a dual core 1.4ghz 64-bit for the iPhone 6 plus... One of the reviews with benchmark figures is here
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Google-Nexus-6-vs-Apple-iPhone-6-Plus_id3854/page/2
How the heck is this possible, in graphics tests the iPhone has like 50% better performance according to this as well as other sites I looked at.
Can someone please explain this?
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Who cares
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So after seeing all these benchmarks, how the heck is the iPhone 6 plus faster than the nexus6? We've got 4 2.7ghz processor even though it is 32-bit compared to a dual core 1.4ghz 64-bit for the iPhone 6 plus... One of the reviews with benchmark figures is here
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Google-Nexus-6-vs-Apple-iPhone-6-Plus_id3854/page/2
How the heck is this possible, in graphics tests the iPhone has like 50% better performance according to this as well as other sites I looked at.
Can someone please explain this?
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Notice the multi core performance. The nexus 6 easily beats it. And the Adreno 420 GPU blows everything out of the water. It has the same frame rates as the iPhone 6 even while its running in 1440p!
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