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[Q] How is the gaming performance?

Hi, Moto X will arrive here in Brazil at august 3 and i'm very excited for this phone which i'm sure will be my next, in this moment I have the Razr i <3
So, how is the gaming perfomance in this Phone? someone already tried Asphalt 8 and see if it runs at High graphics?
I just saw everyone talking about Active notifications, touchless controls and many other things but no one talks about gaming performance, so i'm curious
If someone could show in video how is the gaming performance it would be great
I'm sorry for my bad english =)

Well if you are looking for graphics performance it scored a 11286 score on 3dmark benchmark which is pretty dang good. It plays rr3 super smooth and no lag really at all on any thing else I've thrown at it
Contrary to most peoples belief the phone has some pretty beastly capabilities judging from the use I have tested.
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Couple the adreno 320 gpu with only 720p resolution and you get AWESOME gaming performance! NOVA 3 runs better on this thing than it did on my HTC One and my GS4 Active. NFS Most Wanted also runs flawlessly. I'll download Asphalt 8 and report back, but I am confident that it too will run without a hiccup.

Keller_psycho said:
Well if you are looking for graphics performance it scored a 11286 score on 3dmark benchmark which is pretty dang good. It plays rr3 super smooth and no lag really at all on any thing else I've thrown at it
Contrary to most peoples belief the phone has some pretty beastly capabilities judging from the use I have tested.
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exiting to get mine *.*
_MetalHead_ said:
Couple the adreno 320 gpu with only 720p resolution and you get AWESOME gaming performance! NOVA 3 runs better on this thing than it did on my HTC One and my GS4 Active. NFS Most Wanted also runs flawlessly. I'll download Asphalt 8 and report back, but I am confident that it too will run without a hiccup.
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Great!! I just wanted to know if Asphalt 8 runs at the highest graphics because asphalt 8 is locked the medium and high graphics in some phones, on my razr i for example it runs only in low graphics, and is locked the medium and high

miike.mm said:
exiting to get mine *.*
Great!! I just wanted to know if Asphalt 8 runs at the highest graphics because asphalt 8 is locked the medium and high graphics in some phones, on my razr i for example it runs only in low graphics, and is locked the medium and high
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Just downloaded it. It defaults to medium but you can set it to high. I just did 2 races on high and it ran smooth as butter with zero noticeable frame rate drops.

_MetalHead_ said:
Just downloaded it. It defaults to medium but you can set it to high. I just did 2 races on high and it ran smooth as butter with zero noticeable frame rate drops.
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Greatt! This phone is powerful! Cant wait to buy mine *.* I heard that Moto Maker will be available here in Brazil too *.*

Let's just say that my phone managed to render a 1,000,000+ poly CAD model and animate it at 60FPS without hiccups while my friend's laptop with a dedicated GPU choked.
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iandr0idos said:
Let's just say that my phone managed to render a 1,000,000+ poly CAD model and animate it at 60FPS without hiccups while my friend's laptop with a dedicated GPU choked.
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What's your friends computer? A Dell laptop with intel graphics?

cowenby said:
What's your friends computer? A Dell laptop with intel graphics?
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An HP Envy.

Well just in specs, it has the same GPU as the HTC One and Sammy S4 yet only has to push around less than half the pixels. This phone is butter. Glad to see at least one company realizing that after a certain point GPU > CPU

iandr0idos said:
Let's just say that my phone managed to render a 1,000,000+ poly CAD model and animate it at 60FPS without hiccups while my friend's laptop with a dedicated GPU choked.
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tw1tch175 said:
Well just in specs, it has the same GPU as the HTC One and Sammy S4 yet only has to push around less than half the pixels. This phone is butter. Glad to see at least one company realizing that after a certain point GPU > CPU
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Great! Definitely it will be my next phone! i saw many videos on youtube of Moto X beating S4 and HTC One in performance, opening games is much faster than s4 and ONE

How has your experience been with 3D Performance & Emulators?

For those of you that already have your handsets, how has your experience been with the performance of 3D games and more intensive emulators? Have there been any games that have shown noticeable choppiness or sluggishness?
Edit: I read in another thread that Real Racing is giving Snapdragon owners problems. Also - I'm a bit curious as to how PPSSPP is treating people.

I have no issues running epsxe with open gl and all setting at maximum. Playing ff9 atm. Emulators shouldn't be an issue.

I just play Asphalt 8 on my Note 4 Exynos and it gets around 60fps at max settings.

I try few 3D games in my Exynos N910C include Real Racing 3 and Death Trigger 2. So far so great. No issue.

Lodix said:
I just play Asphalt 8 on my Note 4 Exynos and it gets around 60fps at max settings.
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Could you post gamebench prints of the performance on some games?

Another gamebench video (exynos)

My device is finally here and it performs great (Exynos - C version)! But it gets warm (just warm no hot) fast and the throttle is very strong!! My Antutu after playing minion rush for 10 minutes was 35k and after a lot of gaming my GFX T-rex on-screen was 8 and off screen was 16. With the phone unused I got 25 and 37 fps for each of them. It is hot here (28C = 82F) but this throttle is too powerful! I'd rather have the phone getting hotter with better performance. Don't know if that would be possible.

The Galaxy Note 4 has a terrible 3d performance, i imagine it is because it is rendering at 1440, my HTC One M7 did far better at 1080. A few games that are jittery messes are anything GTA and also Gangstar, not impressed at all. Perhaps somebody will hack it so that it renders at a lower resolution, because really the snapdragon 805 is not up to intense 3d games at native resolution.

I have better gaming experience in Asphalt 8 with the Note 4 Exynos+1440p than with my Note 3 Qualcomm+1080p.

Lodix said:
I have better gaming experience in Asphalt 8 with the Note 4 Exynos+1440p than with my Note 3 Qualcomm+1080p.
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Yes same for me too. I really impressed with exynos gaming performance asphalt 8 is just 60 fps all the time it was like 30 or something on my quallcom note 3

tmac31 said:
Yes same for me too. I really impressed with exynos gaming performance asphalt 8 is just 60 fps all the time it was like 30 or something on my quallcom note 3
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Yeah, It surprised me. I would like to see some Gamebench of a Qualcomm Note 4.

captainbirdseye86 said:
The Galaxy Note 4 has a terrible 3d performance, i imagine it is because it is rendering at 1440, my HTC One M7 did far better at 1080. A few games that are jittery messes are anything GTA and also Gangstar, not impressed at all. Perhaps somebody will hack it so that it renders at a lower resolution, because really the snapdragon 805 is not up to intense 3d games at native resolution.
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I'm using NOMone Resolution Changer to set display to 1080p to play games. When you change the resolution everything looks wrong (big icons and etc) but the games are actually perfect but less pixels to push so better performance. If you are rooted and mind gaming performance, this is a must have.

Just curious - since this is the one thing that might make me change my mind about not rooting my phone - Does NOMone Resolution Changer know to automatically change the resolution only when a game is specifically opened? Or do you need to change the resolution first - and then start the game?

For the guy saying that GTA is stuttery.. its nothing to do with the resolution. Its all to do with heat and the Samsung DVFS voltage and frequency control.
With DVFS enabled after a few mins of GTA it slows down a little bit and starts to get stuttery because it throttles too easy and underclocks the CPU and GPU by about half.
If your rooted and disable DVFS you get the full GPU and CPU speed in games like GTA vice city and its extremely fluid.

Trinatek said:
Just curious - since this is the one thing that might make me change my mind about not rooting my phone - Does NOMone Resolution Changer know to automatically change the resolution only when a game is specifically opened? Or do you need to change the resolution first - and then start the game?
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Second option unfortunately. If you find an application that does that, please tell me. I didn't look for it though as NOMone is working great and I'm a bit afraid of messing with the resolution too much.

Just got myself an exynos note 4. Very nice phone but aside from a little touchwiz stutter, games such as real racing 3 and clash of clans stutter. My nexus 4 ran them fine. Did a quick antutu benchmark to see whats up and this is what i got without flight mode on. What do you think? Benchmarks say my phone should handle them with ease but thats not the case. Anyone with a solution?
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djunited said:
Just got myself an exynos note 4. Very nice phone but aside from a little touchwiz stutter, games such as real racing 3 and clash of clans stutter. My nexus 4 ran them fine. Did a quick antutu benchmark to see whats up and this is what i got without flight mode on. What do you think? Benchmarks say my phone should handle them with ease but thats not the case. Anyone with a solution?
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Mine can just run them fine. Try a factory reset.

Lodix said:
Mine can just run them fine. Try a factory reset.
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Factory reset on a brand new phone that just got set up?
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Probably some rogue app you got running. Reset like he said or restart. No stutter on this old games so no fix required. Emulators have been good tho getting over 30fps in a few n64 games mupen64 that have tried, dolphin still not the best speed. DraStic was made for the note line. Runs awesome with each game I have.

Has to be coc related. I read a few reviews on the play store from note 4 users who have seen this as well. Much more demanding games are running great so ill just wait on an update.
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Misleading test against our note 4

So I was kinda worried when reading benchmark reviews of the note 4. They would show that the iPhone 6's gpu was superior and to prove that they used GFX bench.
Sure after trying it myself I noticed something pretty obvious.
They are comparing the note 4's 2k res against the 720p res of the iPhone 6.
When you look at the note 4's offscreen performance it's better or equal.
I made a screen show to show you all.
Anyone else want to show their results?

Its not misLeading at all onscreen and offscreen tests 2 different things. And onscreen is more important cuz shows real world performance(if games support 2k ofc)
Biggest misleading information was when all reviews done benchmarks werent updated to support new iphone resolutions. All was running on 640p which was 5s res.
They published reviews with 18 fps ofscreen and 30 fps onscreen for 6 plus and didnt even think about what was wrong . Both score should be same cuz both tests done in 1080p for 6 plus. Even reviews said "apple did a great job with 6 plus. While having higher res screen it still beat iphone 6 in onscreen tests." It was totaly wrong and misleading stuff.
Now all benchmarks updated to support new screens and all gpu benchmark scores lowered iphone 6 has like 40% better performance in onscreen than 6 plus. But they just didnt update their reviews and still has wrong information for people. And still comparing new phones with wrong scores from iphones.

I don't know why people are so obsessed with benchmarks. I would never buy a phone because it is faster in some worthless synthetic benchmark
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easycure1974 said:
I don't know why people are so obsessed with benchmarks. I would never buy a phone because it is faster in some worthless synthetic benchmark
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Benchmarking gives a user an idea if their system is running normally. We do it with our pc's all the time. The note 4 has new hardware compared to the note 3. The new gpu adreno 420 has also a new architecture.
My point of the post isn't about the note performing low or anything but simply pointing out the lies about the iPhone being better when they obviously didn't point out that the note 4 is running 2k res vs the 1080p from the iPhone 6+. Even the s5 plus with the same hardware as the note 4 has higher scores because of its lower res.
Either way don't look at benchmarks to say your device is top dog but also don't Base your judgement on a device from inappropriate testing.

jetbruceli said:
Benchmarking gives a user an idea if their system is running normally. We do it with our pc's all the time. The note 4 has new hardware compared to the note 3. The new gpu adreno 420 has also a new architecture.
My point of the post isn't about the note performing low or anything but simply pointing out the lies about the iPhone being better when they obviously didn't point out that the note 4 is running 2k res vs the 1080p from the iPhone 6+. Even the s5 plus with the same hardware as the note 4 has higher scores because of its lower res.
Either way don't look at benchmarks to say your device is top dog but also don't Base your judgement on a device from inappropriate testing.
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When comparing PCs, they're (almost) always using the same CPU architecture and operating system. It's kind of a difficult comparison on phones, since they're often nothing alike.
I also don't understand why it's so important it's better than the iPhone. It's like if it's worse than the iPhone, it's utter ****. Which is not the case.

3D Benchmarking on phones/tables is pointless when comparing to other devises 9 times out of 10 the screen res is not same and they never take this into factor.
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Mafle93 said:
When comparing PCs, they're (almost) always using the same CPU architecture and operating system. It's kind of a difficult comparison on phones, since they're often nothing alike. .
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You clearly don't benchmark on PC
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jetbruceli said:
Benchmarking gives a user an idea if their system is running normally. We do it with our pc's all the time. .
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Yea but on PC we have option to set a fixed res to compare hardware.

demo23019 said:
3D Benchmarking on phones/tables is pointless when comparing to other devises 9 times out of 10 the screen res is not same and they never take this into factor.
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Yea but on PC we have option to set a fixed res to compare hardware.
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Do you often see benchmarks with 2 completely different types of RAM, GPU, CPU, OS and monitor resolution when doing HW comparisons?

Does your Note 4 perform how YOU want it to perform? If so, then who cares about benchmarks? This benchmark obsession has gotten completely out of control. I never run them, I benchmark my phones myself and decide if it's running to MY liking.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
Does your Note 4 perform how YOU want it to perform? If so, then who cares about benchmarks? This benchmark obsession has gotten completely out of control. I never run them, I benchmark my phones myself and decide if it's running to MY liking.
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I completely agree. Benchmarks are a good as an indication of your device's performance. Nothing more. The software "feeling" is just as important for the overall experience, and it can't be measured as easily.

Mafle93 said:
I completely agree. Benchmarks are a good as an indication of your device's performance. Nothing more. The software "feeling" is just as important for the overall experience, and it can't be measured as easily.
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Yeah exactly. It's almost like letting an app decide if the food you just ate tasted good or not. Just judge it for yourself, screw all these synthetic benchmarks lol.

Benchmarks are only useful to find out performance differences, not which is the best or the better, like when you OC your phone.
From personal experience, benchmarks resulted as fake, because my own device was outperforming the one in their list or table not slightly, but 10 to 20%.
I am talking about Antutu benchmark.
I had the same issue wtih Quadrant.
I didnt bother anymore because I didnt want to stress test my phone any longer.

Mafle93 said:
Do you often see benchmarks with 2 completely different types of RAM, GPU, CPU, OS and monitor resolution when doing HW comparisons?
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All the time people who generally benchmark build their own system .
You almost never see the same exact specs.
And when gpu benchmarking involved rules are set to run x resolution to get accurate comparison when comparing
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Not all games run native 2k. Hi quality 3d games will most likely upscale a 1080p to 2k on your phone. Don't worry about it. This monster is fast even at 2k.

demo23019 said:
All the time people who generally benchmark build their own system .
You almost never see the same exact specs.
And when gpu benchmarking involved rules are set to run x resolution to get accurate comparison when comparing
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Ok so here is the scenario for the pc, lets say you have the same mobo, gpu, cpu, ram and etc. You benchmark your completely new system and notice its not performing as well. Would using a benchmark then be helpful? YES
Second our devices share common specs with other devices. Galaxy s5 and Xperia z3, Note 4 and Nexus 6. These systems also produce different benchmarks. Of you own a Nexus 5 you will notice it doesnt play everything the same as the note 3. The note 3 was faster and smoother than the nexus 5. i would know I had both. I was so mad when I gave up my note 3. The nexus 5 ran poorly on benchmarks and would throttle instantly. I actually had to put it in the freezer for it come atleast close to the performance of the Note 3.
For me its really saying my note 4 is better than yours or your nexus 6 but it does suggest that I might get performance getting the note 4 over the G3

Note 4 SD 805 Disappointing Gaming Performance

Hello everyone
After swapping my note 3 with note 4, I was amazed with the snappiness of the Note 4 during general tasks and battery life. However, things aren't that smooth while gaming.. it seems as if after 10 mins of gameplay, graphics stutter and the game starts to lag, even in less graphic intensive games.. is it the same with everyone? What about the Exynos variants? Overall, I would rank the note 4 a solid 8.5/10, deducting 1.5 due to poor graphical performance..
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Sounds like the soc clocking down.
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my note 4 is awsome and i dont feel any lag like you do mate

knightameer said:
Hello everyone
After swapping my note 3 with note 4, I was amazed with the snappiness of the Note 4 during general tasks and battery life. However, things aren't that smooth while gaming.. it seems as if after 10 mins of gameplay, graphics stutter and the game starts to lag, even in less graphic intensive games.. is it the same with everyone? What about the Exynos variants? Overall, I would rank the note 4 a solid 8.5/10, deducting 1.5 due to poor graphical performance..
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hi,
Next time you are gaming etc. etc and experience symptoms( as described by you above) check your battery temperature. It could be some sort of "throttling" I have seen quite a few post in forum referring to similar. Read up about Samsung DVFS throttling" when devices gets warm. resulting in games stuttering, lagging etc. etc
good luck

The Exynos performs better while gaming.

I play:
Asphalt Overdrive
Beach Buggy Racing and Blitz
As well as Pinball Pro
Haven't noticed any slowdown or issue with graphics, then again I play for 30mins at most, most times I do a quick 10-15min session and I'm bored.

I played The Room 2 for like 1h+ and while in game pulling down the notification bar lagged as hell...my battery temperature was around 38 while gaming.I have the snapdragon model.

Rayman Fiesta Run makes my Exynos hot and noticable slow down performance. Funny that Nexus 7 2012 runs this game as much as I want without any performance dropdown.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubisoft.rayman.fiestarun
Didn't noticed the same reaction on Riptide GP 2 though.

Snapdragon here, nothing, everything is smooth and fast, i already have 14 hours of gameplay time with Galaxy on FIRE2 HD which is pretty intense, also try Stranger, its the most intense graphical game, and everything on highest the note 4 has lower fps, even then after longer playing everything is okey.

I can second this. Rayman Fiesta starts to lag after a while...very disappointing. SnapDragon model here.

i have exynos and every thing is smooth

I have Canadian SM-N910W8 with SD805 it runs games fast even with power savings on.

It's not hard to understand, snapdragon 800+1080p > snapdragon 805+2k for gaming performance (and almost everything).
I have Note 3 snap800 and Note 4 snap 805... and I can honestly say that note 3 is way better for gaming.
Check some gaming YouTube video, this also happens between Nexus 6 and 5.
That's quite sad because Samsung could have made the Best device ever if It choosed a laser autofocus instead of the UV/HRsensor, and sticked with 1080p+ snap 805 combo... really It's like if our SOC have to push TWO 1080p phones (no kidding... 2k have double pixels).
PPL think that the improved visual quality is given by the improved resolution... that's 100% wrong.... The details are the same (and I see amazingly well at very close distances), the true benefits are given by the damn good color accuracy.
BTW note 3 with leaked Lollipop is waaaaay faster in everything than Note4...
If lollipop doesn't make note 4 way faster I'm going to sell this piece of marketing victim and stick with the Note 3.

i using note 3 snap with lollipop and note 4 H with exynos
note gaming performance very very better !
i dont know what note 4 snap on gaming and fps on heavy game !
but exynos version note 4 is better on gaming and power on 2k resolution
im happy for this buying !
note 3 just snap
note 4 just exynos

sometimes its not about the phone, but lazy developers..
as we know rayman is developed by ubisoft and everyone in gaming world knows how terrible that company is

Gamebench v1.3 analysis of Asphalt 8 game play - Device: Note 4 Exynos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58709458&postcount=2020

To the people talking about Rayman Fiesta, on my Exynos Note 4 it goes into slow motion if under 60fps, and I'm not talking about skipping frames, I'm talking about slow motion, when it gets close to 40 fps the game is very sloooow. I had to run it in 720p to keep it at 60fps all the time so it wouldn't slow down.
What I mean by this is, at least for me, the game runs very well even on 1440p, always above 30fps but goes into slow motion instead of skipping frames because the devs are stupid. This also happens to me with Sky Force.

So there are no known permanent solution for the lag and stuttering SD805 aka Note4? Or even a achievement in performance without rooting and devoting our life to adjust and testing?

gabrielgon said:
To the people talking about Rayman Fiesta, on my Exynos Note 4 it goes into slow motion if under 60fps, and I'm not talking about skipping frames, I'm talking about slow motion, when it gets close to 40 fps the game is very sloooow. I had to run it in 720p to keep it at 60fps all the time so it wouldn't slow down.
What I mean by this is, at least for me, the game runs very well even on 1440p, always above 30fps but goes into slow motion instead of skipping frames because the devs are stupid. This also happens to me with Sky Force.
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I've never had sky force slow down...ever. snapdragon 805 running FireKat rom.
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AngryDonutGuy said:
So there are no known permanent solution for the lag and stuttering SD805 aka Note4? Or even a achievement in performance without rooting and devoting our life to adjust and testing?
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Get Samsung's gaming app, Game Tuner, no root required, it will allow you to adjust the resolution, FPS and Brightness of all your games.
My N910F has been running Need For Speed No Limits, Asphalt 8 and GT Racing 2 without a hiccup.
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[Q] Slow CPU and GPU stuck at 330MHz?

I feel my Z3 Compact performance is no where near the performance at Snapdragon 801 is supposed to give. This phone to date is supposed to be one of the fastest Graphic performers and should be able to play games like Ashphalt 8, NOVA 3, Modern Combat and those mainstream graphical games at 60FPS no problem as i've seen in other phones with Snapdragon 801 like the S5, One PlusOne, HTC One M8 etc but my phone seems to play these games like bout 30-40FPS and when a menu transition happens it's really choppy.
Even though this phone is also 720P and with benchmarks on websites like PhoneArena, GSMArena they have scores on geekbench 3 bout 3K while my one is 2.2K constantly, GFX 2.7 (T-Rex Onscreen) bout 40FPS while my one is like 25FPS. Performance is definitely noticeably slow.
I notice that on CPU-Z app that my GPU frequency never exceeds 330MHz, i wonder if you guys are like this too and also my Governer thing is on Interative if that's normal?
I have conducted these results without Stamina mode or performance restriction on. Nor is it rooted or anything.

LSirzech said:
I feel my Z3 Compact performance is no where near the performance at Snapdragon 801 is supposed to give. This phone to date is supposed to be one of the fastest Graphic performers and should be able to play games like Ashphalt 8, NOVA 3, Modern Combat and those mainstream graphical games at 60FPS no problem as i've seen in other phones with Snapdragon 801 like the S5, One PlusOne, HTC One M8 etc but my phone seems to play these games like bout 30-40FPS and when a menu transition happens it's really choppy.
Even though this phone is also 720P and with benchmarks on websites like PhoneArena, GSMArena they have scores on geekbench 3 bout 3K while my one is 2.2K constantly, GFX 2.7 (T-Rex Onscreen) bout 40FPS while my one is like 25FPS. Performance is definitely noticeably slow.
I notice that on CPU-Z app that my GPU frequency never exceeds 330MHz, i wonder if you guys are like this too and also my Governer thing is on Interative if that's normal?
I have conducted these results without Stamina mode or performance restriction on. Nor is it rooted or anything.
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Disable Stamina and restart. Worked for me
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I have same problem, but not in the benchmarks, my gpu stocks at 330 Mhz while playing games. Actually maximum frequency shown in cpuz is 330! This is weird.