So I was kinda worried when reading benchmark reviews of the note 4. They would show that the iPhone 6's gpu was superior and to prove that they used GFX bench.
Sure after trying it myself I noticed something pretty obvious.
They are comparing the note 4's 2k res against the 720p res of the iPhone 6.
When you look at the note 4's offscreen performance it's better or equal.
I made a screen show to show you all.
Anyone else want to show their results?
Its not misLeading at all onscreen and offscreen tests 2 different things. And onscreen is more important cuz shows real world performance(if games support 2k ofc)
Biggest misleading information was when all reviews done benchmarks werent updated to support new iphone resolutions. All was running on 640p which was 5s res.
They published reviews with 18 fps ofscreen and 30 fps onscreen for 6 plus and didnt even think about what was wrong . Both score should be same cuz both tests done in 1080p for 6 plus. Even reviews said "apple did a great job with 6 plus. While having higher res screen it still beat iphone 6 in onscreen tests." It was totaly wrong and misleading stuff.
Now all benchmarks updated to support new screens and all gpu benchmark scores lowered iphone 6 has like 40% better performance in onscreen than 6 plus. But they just didnt update their reviews and still has wrong information for people. And still comparing new phones with wrong scores from iphones.
I don't know why people are so obsessed with benchmarks. I would never buy a phone because it is faster in some worthless synthetic benchmark
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I don't know why people are so obsessed with benchmarks. I would never buy a phone because it is faster in some worthless synthetic benchmark
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Benchmarking gives a user an idea if their system is running normally. We do it with our pc's all the time. The note 4 has new hardware compared to the note 3. The new gpu adreno 420 has also a new architecture.
My point of the post isn't about the note performing low or anything but simply pointing out the lies about the iPhone being better when they obviously didn't point out that the note 4 is running 2k res vs the 1080p from the iPhone 6+. Even the s5 plus with the same hardware as the note 4 has higher scores because of its lower res.
Either way don't look at benchmarks to say your device is top dog but also don't Base your judgement on a device from inappropriate testing.
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Benchmarking gives a user an idea if their system is running normally. We do it with our pc's all the time. The note 4 has new hardware compared to the note 3. The new gpu adreno 420 has also a new architecture.
My point of the post isn't about the note performing low or anything but simply pointing out the lies about the iPhone being better when they obviously didn't point out that the note 4 is running 2k res vs the 1080p from the iPhone 6+. Even the s5 plus with the same hardware as the note 4 has higher scores because of its lower res.
Either way don't look at benchmarks to say your device is top dog but also don't Base your judgement on a device from inappropriate testing.
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When comparing PCs, they're (almost) always using the same CPU architecture and operating system. It's kind of a difficult comparison on phones, since they're often nothing alike.
I also don't understand why it's so important it's better than the iPhone. It's like if it's worse than the iPhone, it's utter ****. Which is not the case.
3D Benchmarking on phones/tables is pointless when comparing to other devises 9 times out of 10 the screen res is not same and they never take this into factor.
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When comparing PCs, they're (almost) always using the same CPU architecture and operating system. It's kind of a difficult comparison on phones, since they're often nothing alike. .
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You clearly don't benchmark on PC
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Benchmarking gives a user an idea if their system is running normally. We do it with our pc's all the time. .
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Yea but on PC we have option to set a fixed res to compare hardware.
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3D Benchmarking on phones/tables is pointless when comparing to other devises 9 times out of 10 the screen res is not same and they never take this into factor.
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Yea but on PC we have option to set a fixed res to compare hardware.
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Do you often see benchmarks with 2 completely different types of RAM, GPU, CPU, OS and monitor resolution when doing HW comparisons?
Does your Note 4 perform how YOU want it to perform? If so, then who cares about benchmarks? This benchmark obsession has gotten completely out of control. I never run them, I benchmark my phones myself and decide if it's running to MY liking.
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Does your Note 4 perform how YOU want it to perform? If so, then who cares about benchmarks? This benchmark obsession has gotten completely out of control. I never run them, I benchmark my phones myself and decide if it's running to MY liking.
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I completely agree. Benchmarks are a good as an indication of your device's performance. Nothing more. The software "feeling" is just as important for the overall experience, and it can't be measured as easily.
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I completely agree. Benchmarks are a good as an indication of your device's performance. Nothing more. The software "feeling" is just as important for the overall experience, and it can't be measured as easily.
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Yeah exactly. It's almost like letting an app decide if the food you just ate tasted good or not. Just judge it for yourself, screw all these synthetic benchmarks lol.
Benchmarks are only useful to find out performance differences, not which is the best or the better, like when you OC your phone.
From personal experience, benchmarks resulted as fake, because my own device was outperforming the one in their list or table not slightly, but 10 to 20%.
I am talking about Antutu benchmark.
I had the same issue wtih Quadrant.
I didnt bother anymore because I didnt want to stress test my phone any longer.
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Do you often see benchmarks with 2 completely different types of RAM, GPU, CPU, OS and monitor resolution when doing HW comparisons?
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All the time people who generally benchmark build their own system .
You almost never see the same exact specs.
And when gpu benchmarking involved rules are set to run x resolution to get accurate comparison when comparing
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Not all games run native 2k. Hi quality 3d games will most likely upscale a 1080p to 2k on your phone. Don't worry about it. This monster is fast even at 2k.
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All the time people who generally benchmark build their own system .
You almost never see the same exact specs.
And when gpu benchmarking involved rules are set to run x resolution to get accurate comparison when comparing
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Ok so here is the scenario for the pc, lets say you have the same mobo, gpu, cpu, ram and etc. You benchmark your completely new system and notice its not performing as well. Would using a benchmark then be helpful? YES
Second our devices share common specs with other devices. Galaxy s5 and Xperia z3, Note 4 and Nexus 6. These systems also produce different benchmarks. Of you own a Nexus 5 you will notice it doesnt play everything the same as the note 3. The note 3 was faster and smoother than the nexus 5. i would know I had both. I was so mad when I gave up my note 3. The nexus 5 ran poorly on benchmarks and would throttle instantly. I actually had to put it in the freezer for it come atleast close to the performance of the Note 3.
For me its really saying my note 4 is better than yours or your nexus 6 but it does suggest that I might get performance getting the note 4 over the G3
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I'm trying to understand how a G2 that uses the same Snapdragon 800 and Adreno 330 could be faster than Nexus5.
Is seems that G2 is faster than N5.
Ridiculusly there are many test where Galaxy S4 beats N5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3uZdVsND1E&feature=youtube_gdata_player
GS4 runs on a Snapdragon 600, how can be faster than N5?
Not sure why you are comparing benchmarks on phones http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/
The only thing I care is real world performance and thermal throttling.
How is it running Real Racing 3 and other super-demanding games?
& this is why benchmarks are pure BS.
Here is a more realistic comparison in speed between the Galaxy S4 & the N5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-F6bJ218Bc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Not sure why you are comparing benchmarks on phones http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/
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very funny, I lost that article.
Android manufacturers are known to optimize for specific benchmarks, Anandtech did an article on this. I will only trust real world performance and analysis by reputable tech sites like AT.
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I'm trying to understand how a G2 that uses the same Snapdragon 800 and Adreno 330 could be faster than Nexus5.
Is seems that G2 is faster than N5.
Ridiculusly there are many test where Galaxy S4 beats N5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3uZdVsND1E&feature=youtube_gdata_player
GS4 runs on a Snapdragon 600, how can be faster than N5?
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Google has always throttled their devices. So when you push it to the extremes in benchmarks for 5 min straight it throttles back the CPU therefore giving a lower score. Like said real world performance is what matters.
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Even a 'cheating' S600 phones shouldnt be near an S800 phone. The N5 does seem to have very aggressive throttling indeed, indeed my HTC One beats my N5 in just about all benchmarks. Something im sure the devs will fix soon enough.
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Even a 'cheating' S600 phones shouldnt be near an S800 phone. The N5 does seem to have very aggressive throttling indeed, indeed my HTC One beats my N5 in just about all benchmarks. Something im sure the devs will fix soon enough.
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It doesn't have any throttling at all.
They just don't play the benchmark game like OEMs do.
The N5 is noticeably faster than an S4 in all tasks yet the S4 scores higher on Antutu for example.
benchmark apps are pure BS.
Which is better - having the fastest smoothest phone available or being slower at everything yet scoring higher on a benchmark app?
People need to get their priorities right.
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It doesn't have any throttling at all.
They just don't play the benchmark game like OEMs do.
The N5 is noticeably faster than an S4 in all tasks yet the S4 scores higher on Antutu for example.
benchmark apps are pure BS.
Which is better - having the fastest smoothest phone available or being slower at everything yet scoring higher on a benchmark app?
People need to get their priorities right.
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ALL phones have thermal throttling, thats not up for debate, what is up for debate is how aggressively they set the limits.
What many here fail to realise is that the 'cheating' that goes on is just thermal management tricks, nothing more than that. Samsung and the others have programs that detect benchmarks launching, and then set the thermal management to very light limits. In the case of the S4 they clock the GPU to the maximum rated limit and dont throttle it down (533MHz), whereas its normally limited to 480 for thermal management reasons. 533 is not an overclock, 480 is an underclock.
An N5 should be faster than an S4 even if the S4 is at 533, so either Google is heavily throttling the N5, or its got some serious optimisation work to do.
Benchmarks mean fcuk all and too be honest if that's all the op cares about them the nexus ain't for him.
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ALL phones have thermal throttling, thats not up for debate, what is up for debate is how aggressively they set the limits.
What many here fail to realise is that the 'cheating' that goes on is just thermal management tricks, nothing more than that. Samsung and the others have programs that detect benchmarks launching, and then set the thermal management to very light limits. In the case of the S4 they clock the GPU to the maximum rated limit and dont throttle it down (533MHz), whereas its normally limited to 480 for thermal management reasons. 533 is not an overclock, 480 is an underclock.
An N5 should be faster than an S4 even if the S4 is at 533, so either Google is heavily throttling the N5, or its got some serious optimisation work to do.
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Again - look at the video link I posted above against the S4.
Which is better - faster phone throughout or a nice pretty score in a free benchmark app?
When will people learn - these apps are absolute junk and in No Way do they reflect the speed of the device or the power of the internals inside.
It seriously sounds like you'd accept a slower less powerful phone as long as it scored higher on the pretty charts in these apps.
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Anandtech pointed out that OEMs like Samsung boost CPU & GPU clocks during benchmarks, that's why you get higher numbers.
For Gods sake, it's the same SoC.
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I'm trying to understand how a G2 that uses the same Snapdragon 800 and Adreno 330 could be faster than Nexus5.
Is seems that G2 is faster than N5.
Ridiculusly there are many test where Galaxy S4 beats N5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3uZdVsND1E&feature=youtube_gdata_player
GS4 runs on a Snapdragon 600, how can be faster than N5?
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Nexus 5 is absolutely faster than Galaxy S4 in real life usage, no doubt about it. When it comes to G2 its more even between the two.
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Again - look at the video link I posted above against the S4.
Which is better - faster phone throughout or a nice pretty score in a free benchmark app?
When will people learn - these apps are absolute junk and in No Way do they reflect the speed of the device or the power of the internals inside.
It seriously sounds like you'd accept a slower less powerful phone as long as it scored higher on the pretty charts in these apps.
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Thats not what I said. Read again..
SOME benchmarks are purely about number crunching and the fact is the S800 should wipe the floor with the S600, if its not, something is going on.
While it doesnt matter if the device is smooth in real world usage it still points to the fact that the software needs a lot of optimisation to be done yet.
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Thats not what I said. Read again..
SOME benchmarks are purely about number crunching and the fact is the S800 should wipe the floor with the S600, if its not, something is going on.
While it doesnt matter if the device is smooth in real world usage it still points to the fact that the software needs a lot of optimisation to be done yet.
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Its not just about smoothness.
Go look at some comparisons of the N5 vs Galaxy S4.
N5 is faster at booting, browsing speed, smoothness, speed of loading of apps, gaming frame rates & loading speeds - basically EVERYTHING!
so you either believe the benchmark app or the actual speeds of the devices.
Simply put - you'd prefer a slower phone so long as it scores higher in these apps.
If you want one of these s600 phones like the S4 & ONE - go & get one! - but don't expect anything to be faster than the N5 just because these free benchmarking apps tell you so.
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You should change the title. " Galaxy S4 and G2 are faster than G2 "
Lol.
This is the Nexus 4 performance discussion all over again.
Other Manufacturers use specific Dalvic patches that grearly improve performance in benchmarks.
If you really want to compare performance of the SoC use something like Geekbench that runs native
code and not ontop of the Dalvic Virtual Maschine.
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You should change the title. " Galaxy S4 and G2 are faster than G2 "
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It should be changed to "Galaxy S4 and G2 perform better then the N5 in useless Benchmarks that don't reflect real world performance"
The only thing obvious from the video comparing the N5 to the G2 is the on screen black levels.
Blacks seem blacker on the G2 in menus and in game, the N5's blacks are grayer.
Google doesn't seem to be interested in calibrating their Nexus line screens
Why does my golden retriever outperform my cat in the fishing dead ducks out of the pond test?
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Ok bad news, I use system tuner + stability test apps and the cpu slow down to 1119 Mhz. This explains low scores in some benchmarks.
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Ok bad news, I use system tuner + stability test apps and the cpu slow down to 1119 Mhz. This explains low scores in some benchmarks.
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Why is that bad news? I've set my cpu speed to 1200mhz and have been running chrome without hiccups. I don't think it actually affects performance that much.
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Why is that bad news? I've set my cpu speed to 1200mhz and have been running chrome without hiccups. I don't think it actually affects performance that much.
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But benchmarks man....Seriously though the phone is screaming fast so I say let it save some battery by throttling down.
Every phone, including the Iphone throttles. Unless there is evidence that N5 throttles a lot more than other S800 phone in non-benchmark tasks this is nothing to worry about imo.
Established behavior. Other phones detect benchmarking software and go full throttle to look better on paper than they are in use.
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Established behavior. Other phones detect benchmarking software and go full throttle to look better on paper than they are in use.
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Samsung ones especially....
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I don't care what the numbers say... my phone flies through everything in real world use. This, is good news.
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I just had a little go on the wife's galaxy nexus... I thought something was wrong with it with how slow it felt
I have now played many games on my Nexus 5 and I haven't noticed any impact on the performance when playing for long periods of time. Whereas Nexus 4 would slow down dramatically once the throttling comes.
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I don't care what the numbers say... my phone flies through everything in real world use. This, is good news.
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I just had a little go on the wife's galaxy nexus... I thought something was wrong with it with how slow it felt
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Funny, my gnex is just as smooth as the new n5. Gnex is running 4.3.1, but I also loaded a couple kk roms and also just as smooth as the n5. Doesn't take much to run an android os, but other things go a helluva lot faster on the n5 with the 4 cores and faster clock speeds.
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Why is that bad news? I've set my cpu speed to 1200mhz and have been running chrome without hiccups. I don't think it actually affects performance that much.
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what app are you using?
incredicontrol, kernel tuner and nofrills arent working for me, you can set the max freq but the cpu ignores the limit
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what app are you using?
incredicontrol, kernel tuner and nofrills arent working for me, you can set the max freq but the cpu ignores the limit
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SetCpu works like a charm.
I've only made 3 conditions for it.
when locked: 300/300
chrome: 300/1200
otherwise: 300/800
What's amazingly surprising is the phone is still very snappy with these frequencies. Sometimes I disable the profiles just to play around but when I'm looking for battery savings I enable them.
With stability test only 30 seconds for the CPU to drop to 1119 Mhz
jlmcr87 said:
Ok bad news, I use system tuner + stability test apps and the cpu slow down to 1119 Mhz. This explains low scores in some benchmarks.
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I only care about throttling if it affects overall performance. So far users report smooth browsing and gaming in the most demanding situations, so it's cool. Nexus devices never fared well at benchmarks anyway.
Another dissapointing... I suppose this is what they were talking about when said "power saving".
PD: Cooltool + setcpu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GRcTxaWd24
check that if you want to see the effect of throttling in gaming
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Why is that bad news? I've set my cpu speed to 1200mhz and have been running chrome without hiccups. I don't think it actually affects performance that much.
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Do you pull half the fuel injector harnesses out in your car to?
The bigger factor is that all games look like they only use 2 cores even at lower speeds they would run much better if properly threaded
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The bigger factor is that all games look like they only use 2 cores even at lower speeds they would run much better if properly threaded
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Yes that's true ,
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That's the problem with having more cores, developers are still making things for older (and more prevalent) hardware. Same thing happened in the early days of multi-core CPUs in computers as well. To begin with you got far worse performance on a dual core 1.5Ghz machine than on a single core with 2Ghz because the OS and applications didn't use the second core. Fortunately phone evolution is way faster and I expect games and apps to take advantage of all the cores much sooner than it happened on PC.
As on the nexus 4, I have no doubt that we will be able to turn off thermal throttling with custom kernels
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http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...r-graphics-performance-vs-apple-iphone-6-plus
I have see a Note 4 running GTA on YouTube,, and it was lagging badly..
Yes gpu delivers lower performance than iphone 6 but its not poor .both gpus have same power but 2k lowers note 4 performance but its still more powerful than ipad air which has lower res.
And the video u saw on youtube is quallcom version of note 4 and adreno gpu s always lagged on gta games on high setting due to lack of optimzation.
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I have see a Note 4 running GTA on YouTube,, and it was lagging badly..
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So because it doesn't do well in one benchmark the GPU is somehow worthless? :silly: According to apple insider apparently the Geforce GTX 660TI is faster than an AMD 290X. That's some quality reporting right there.
Well I'm no expert but look up GTA Note 4 on YouTube, looks terribly laggy.
I'm hoping to get a Note 4 - but not if it can't perform..
Outside of that being Apple dedicated website, running just one benchmark and writing nonsense (they start writing about Note 4, then post preliminary??? cost analysis of GS 4???? from 1.5 yr ago, WTF) I'm not sure if it's propaganda or somebody overdose on something or maybe forgot his medication
I think both.
Not optimized. Performance WILL be fine on other games. Don't worry.
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Well I'm no expert but look up GTA Note 4 on YouTube, looks terribly laggy.
I'm hoping to get a Note 4 - but not if it can't perform..
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It's not lag. The camera just has a really low fps. Look at his other videos and even his hand moving looks like it "lags". It's just the camera don't worry.
You will be able to play most games, just not at the maximum settings, these tests are much more intensive than the mobile games, to the people talking about the screen resolution, there is also an offscreen test which doesn't care about the resolution and the scores are still lower.
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You will be able to play most games, just not at the maximum settings, these tests are much more intensive than the mobile games, to the people talking about the screen resolution, there is also an offscreen test which doesn't care about the resolution and the scores are still lower.
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offscreen tests care about res just not screen res. all offscreen tests done in 1080p and a8 gpu and note 4 gets around 17 fps on offscreen tests. and both higher than my ipad air and i can play everything at full without a stutter i dont think there will be any problem.
Oh no.. a poorly optimized game isn't as fast as it is on an iPhone. Oh jeez it MUST perform awful.. right?
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Oh, cmon guys, little reality check: Note 4 is one of, if not the fastest phone on the market ATM. If it can not play the games properly, nothing else can. In most benchmarks Exynos is as fast or faster than Snapdragon. There is something about this particular benchmark that makes Exynos run poorly, that's why it was picked for this article. And how come no Note4 Snapdragon version? Maybe because Snapdragon doesn't have the issue? The most opinionated bunch of crap I read in a long while.
hi guys, what you think about the snapdragon version now that the nexus 6 has it...i mean is it better to get the s805 over the exynos....because the nexus is like the android benchmark phone ( not performance but support)...so maybe apps developers will support this version more....what you think...
We will have to wait and see the first Snapdragon 805 phone is the Galaxy Note 4 and so far on AT&T and T-Mobile, it's a beast. If your a diehard mobile gamer, there will be lag on GTA: San Andreas on Max Graphics. However other games like modern combat 5 play awesome.
no i am not a gamer...i just want the apps to run smoothly...even facebook stutter on my S4...the apps are not optimized that good....
We lucked out these phones are similarly speced and feel that we will benefit from it.
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yeah, there is a problem, now there is a reason to buy each one of the versions, the exynos is better right now, but in the future the s805 will get better support.....
Lol let the CM come. Just a few weeks(even days or hours ). At that point Sd805 will definitely be a winner with all the mods and add-ons. It has always been that way
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Lol let the CM come. Just a few weeks(even days or hours ). At that point Sd805 will definitely be a winner with all the mods and add-ons. It has always been that way
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If you gonna use cm it means you dont really need note 4 features just go for nexus 6 it will be better with custom roms anyway.
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no i am not a gamer...i just want the apps to run smoothly...even facebook stutter on my S4...the apps are not optimized that good....
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The dont really optimize for a soc. Like some of the games always lagged on quallcomm devices. And scrolling stutter always happen art runtime gonna fix that probably or i always fixed it with xuimod or a better governer.
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If you gonna use cm it means you dont really need note 4 features just go for nexus 6 it will be better with custom roms anyway.
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The dont really optimize for a soc. Like some of the games always lagged on quallcomm devices. And scrolling stutter always happen art runtime gonna fix that probably or i always fixed it with xuimod or a better governer.
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Chrome and Facebook stutters often for me too. Running ART on 805. Does Dalvik help? Any solutions?
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If you gonna use cm it means you dont really need note 4 features just go for nexus 6 it will be better with custom roms anyway.
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Agreed. If I were you, I'd return the note ASAP and wait just a couple more weeks for that sexy nexy. You'll save yourself a lot of time and hassle waiting for stable updates, gain access to TONS of mods, and save a little green along the way.
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If you gonna use cm it means you dont really need note 4 features just go for nexus 6 it will be better with custom roms anyway.
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I'd keep the Note if I were you.
The Note 4 Snapdragon probably won't be as good in terms of support as the Nexus 6, but it will be more than good enough I'd guess, based on the volume of support the Note 3 Snapdragon variant got. Plus there's some indication that this Nexus 6, owing to its higher price and phablet size might not get the popularity that the previous generation of Nexus phones got. It'll still be better support wise, but the price advantage the Nexus had is mostly gone.
Hardware wise, I don't think the AMOLED on the Nexus will be as good as the AMOLED on this phone (will wait for reviews). We should wait for reviews I think. My guess though is that the camera, screen, and a few other features will likely be better on the Note, plus it has an S-Pen. The other issue is a lack of a removable battery and expandable storage, so if you are like me and keep a lot of FLAC, you'll have to buy the higher end version (eroding the Nexus price advantage even more).
Keep the Note 4, wait for the Nexus 6 reviews, and go to a store to play around with a Nexus after it comes out.
Hi, i just got the device 2 days ago, i was on other firmware, and i had the same issue.
I updated to the 10.2.30, but nothing changed here are the scores,
Now before you tell me benchmark don't matter, i know, but im affraid cores may not boost during real life workloads and im getting crippled snapdragon 660 instead of s855, thank.
P.S. The phone is also not faster and even slower compared to s10 exynos in tasks, this is what made me investigate.
You sure you see those numbers reflected in daily tasks? I was curious if I'd get similar results and I did in geekbench but other benchmark apps give the result we'd expect so I'm pretty sure it's just the app that's at fault.
No, not completely but the phone is not faster and even slower compared to supposedly slower 9820 based s10...sometimes chrome starts to load web woth 2 seconds delay, and apps install time is also a bit sluggish
Well when my mi 9 came in I still had the oneplus 7 pro that I wanted to return so I compared them speed wise. Could barely tell that the mi 9 was slower than the 7 pro in download+install, most of the time it was almost the same if not the same and that's down to ufs 3.0 i guess. And believe me, I'm not boasting about my mi 9, because being fast is this phones's only quality, everything else is average at best in my opinion.
Can you do geekbench and pc mark work 2.0 for me please? just let few mins between runs and close everything from the background first, thanks alot!
P.S. What FW you are using? 64 or 128GB version?
You are using geekbench 5, use geekbench 4 if you want higher score.... Nice placebo just from a score.
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You are using geekbench 5, use geekbench 4 if you want higher score.... Nice placebo just from a score.
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Not placebo, i have used geekbench because the phone was sluggish, read the OP. Can you do geekbench 5 please?
I got the same results as you, a bit lower tho
dazed1 said:
Hi, i just got the device 2 days ago, i was on other firmware, and i had the same issue.
I updated to the 10.2.30, but nothing changed here are the scores,
Now before you tell me benchmark don't matter, i know, but im affraid cores may not boost during real life workloads and im getting crippled snapdragon 660 instead of s855, thank.
P.S. The phone is also not faster and even slower compared to s10 exynos in tasks, this is what made me investigate.
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Dude, you have a serious issue, here is mine from yesterday.
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Dude, you have a serious issue, here is mine from yesterday.
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Btw that is on a global EU ROM 10.2.28.0
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kingbasescu said:
Well when my mi 9 came in I still had the oneplus 7 pro that I wanted to return so I compared them speed wise. Could barely tell that the mi 9 was slower than the 7 pro in download+install, most of the time it was almost the same if not the same and that's down to ufs 3.0 i guess. And believe me, I'm not boasting about my mi 9, because being fast is this phones's only quality, everything else is average at best in my opinion.
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Average, actually it takes better photos and video over the OnePlus 7 pro!
To back that up look no further then the 50 plus reviews on YouTube!
Also the Mi 9 has better ultra wide and telephoto cameras.
Has wireless 20watt charging like no other does which the OnePlus has no wireless at all!
Charges faster, 1hr flat, last longer,
IR blaster although nothing major still nice to have. I use it. Especially at sports bars when you want your game! Lol
The only thing the OnePlus 7 pro truly beats the Mi 9 at is the display. Other then that the fact is the Mi 9 is even faster! Proven.
The 3.0 is only for data transfer out a USB C cable. Not to important to me overall!
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dazed1 said:
Hi, i just got the device 2 days ago, i was on other firmware, and i had the same issue.
I updated to the 10.2.30, but nothing changed here are the scores,
Now before you tell me benchmark don't matter, i know, but im affraid cores may not boost during real life workloads and im getting crippled snapdragon 660 instead of s855, thank.
P.S. The phone is also not faster and even slower compared to s10 exynos in tasks, this is what made me investigate.
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My bad I will due a geekbench 5 tomorrow but geekbench is not really that good. If you want the best run the new AnTuTu 8 . Whatever to see what your getting as that test memory, CPU, GPU, and UX. Try that but the Mi 9 should do better then just about anything but a gaming phone!
dazed1 said:
Hi, i just got the device 2 days ago, i was on other firmware, and i had the same issue.
I updated to the 10.2.30, but nothing changed here are the scores,
Now before you tell me benchmark don't matter, i know, but im affraid cores may not boost during real life workloads and im getting crippled snapdragon 660 instead of s855, thank.
P.S. The phone is also not faster and even slower compared to s10 exynos in tasks, this is what made me investigate.
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My 1st result running warm and worth 5 apps loaded I will post below and more tomorrow. But it beats every registered score they have for Android and by a decent bit and that's with apps running and warm!!
Gokh is right, they changed the score multiplier in geekbench 5 it seems, it's easy to tell if you look at other phones' score, they're all in the same league.
I did the geekbench 5 on 10.2.28 EEA, 128 GB and got a similar result, a bit lower. I don't know what pcmark work 2.0 is, I typically just use antutu as it tests many things without going through the hassle of installing 6 other apps and is maintained properly.
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Gokh is right, they changed the score multiplier in geekbench 5 it seems, it's easy to tell if you look at other phones' score, they're all in the same league.
I did the geekbench 5 on 10.2.28 EEA, 128 GB and got a similar result, a bit lower. I don't know what pcmark work 2.0 is, I typically just use antutu as it tests many things without going through the hassle of installing 6 other apps and is maintained properly.
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It is very easy to start to imagine things that is not true based on a misinterpreted performance score!
Mi 9 is definitely faster then S10 exynos in use.