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[Rum Float] First flash ever, a bit nervous

I'd like to flash my Vivid with the new Rum Float ROM and from what I gather; now that a RUU is available it should be fairly easy. I.bought the phone last Thursday and haven't had a chance to grab a SD card. I just want to make sure that I fully understand the process involved. I've read a number of posts here at XDA and elsewhere but I still have a few questions to make sure my knowledge is solid and I don't end up with an HTC paperweight! A) Will the Android market will have a record of what I have already dl'd so I can dl it again? B) Is using the RUU executable fairly simple? Should I do the BL UL before I restore?(I would like root, so I'm assuming that this is one of the first steps!) C) Is it a simple follow the instructions sort of thing with the RUU? D) Will "frigid's" "supertool" method to get root work in this instance or do I need to use CWM? E) I'm using an AT&T Vivid could somebody give me a simple step by step(not in detail, but if you could that would be great!) Such as "1- Do BL UL, 2- Run supertool for root, 3 - Run RUU, etc, etc, etc
Also there appears to be a sense and a NONSense version of the ROM, are they both included in the RUU exe file? And for the NONSense version will there be any difference in stability, performance, you acceleration, etc?
Thanks for any info in advanced!
-MeeGz-

MeeGz said:
I'd like to flash my Vivid with the new Rum Float ROM and from what I gather; now that a RUU is available it should be fairly easy. I.bought the phone last Thursday and haven't had a chance to grab a SD card. I just want to make sure that I fully understand the process involved. I've read a number of posts here at XDA and elsewhere but I still have a few questions to make sure my knowledge is solid and I don't end up with an HTC paperweight! A) Will the Android market will have a record of what I have already dl'd so I can dl it again? B) Is using the RUU executable fairly simple? Should I do the BL UL before I restore?(I would like root, so I'm assuming that this is one of the first steps!) C) Is it a simple follow the instructions sort of thing with the RUU? D) Will "frigid's" "supertool" method to get root work in this instance or do I need to use CWM? E) I'm using an AT&T Vivid could somebody give me a simple step by step(not in detail, but if you could that would be great!) Such as "1- Do BL UL, 2- Run supertool for root, 3 - Run RUU, etc, etc, etc
Also there appears to be a sense and a NONSense version of the ROM, are they both included in the RUU exe file? And for the NONSense version will there be any difference in stability, performance, you acceleration, etc?
Thanks for any info in advanced!
-MeeGz-
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The RUU DOES NOT CONTAIN MY ROM. It is an official tool used by HTC for upgrading and returning to stock.
Android market will keep tabs on purchased apps. It will not keep track of free apps.
You need an sdcard to keep safe.
The RUU is easy to run. Its just an exe. Follow the on-screen prompts.
I don't know what you are trying to restore but it would appear you have your terminology and methods all mixed up.
RUU will get you a stock ics. And it will wipe your apps and settings. It will act like a phone you just pulled out of the box with ics.
In order to run rum float (or any aftermarket rom) you need to unlock your bootloader. Rooting has nothing to do with it. Unlock bl then flash recovery on then flash rom and kernel.
Your steps as you perceive them are slightly off. I don't recommend you do anything to your phone right now.

After you complete the RUU you'd have to go to htc.dev and unlock your bootloader. After you can fastboot flash a recovery and CWM with root. After that's complete you can flash a rom of your choice. I'd get familiar with using fastboot commands in ADB (command prompt). I guess you can use the supertool to root but it isn't necessary really a matter of preference. Check out the superguide. Maybe PG or someone can update it with specific steps if you are using the RUU but the process is the same. It starts with the unlocking the bootloader. Definitely pick up an SD card!

Thanks for the quick replies and the clarification. I think I get it now, I would do the following to get to a rooted custom ICS Rom: Unlock the boot loader, root and run titanium backup to save my apps(using an ad card), run the RUU and get to stock HTC ics, copy ROM to sd card, re-root, download and run CWM, root again and restore apps with titanium backup, enjoy!
The only things that may be a bit off in that process is running the RUU as I don't need that to just flash a custom ROM, assuming said ROM includes the ICS kernel. If did have to use the RUU would I have to re-root to run cwm? Also the actual ROM itself is installed from HBoot, correct?
Sorry if these sound like dumb questions, I'm just new at this. I really appreciate the replies. I'm sure I will pick this up fairly quickly as I have years of linux & OS X command line experience and am well versed with c. It's just kind of information overload on this board as there is such a wealth and variety of info here!
Thanks again,
-MeeGz-

So you can run the ruu.exe even if you are rooted, unlocked bootloader, on att stock? Or do you have have to relock bootloader to proceed with the ruu?
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA

RUU is for stock roms IIRC. If you are rooted and already unlocked I'd use the original method PG and Thecubed created.

back on my computer for a little better explanation.
the RUU or the methods that thecubed and i have laid out will get you the necessary HBOOT/RADIO/etc that you will need to flash a custom ICS rom
either method will get you the same thing....an updated HBOOT and ICS
if you run the bootloader unlock tool from htcdev, YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR SETTINGS! it will wipe the device like its brand new......do NOT include this in your dreams of getting backups prior to flashing a custom rom....
please just read through the posts and understand what is going on.
in order for ICS to happen on your vivid you need the new HBOOT, Radio, and various other components that the RUU/PH39IMG contain
there are 3 different roads you can follow to get there, the EASIEST being just run the RUU (WHICH WILL ALSO WIPE SETTINGS!), afterwards, reboot to bootloader, unlock bootloader, reboot to fastboot, fastboot flash the boot.img and the recovery.img of your choice on (limited on boot.img's at the moment, better use the one from the rom), reboot to recovery and flash the rom
the other methods imply you understand somewhat how the process works.
relock bootloader (if unlocked), run PH39IMG install, unlock bootloader, fastboot flash recovery and boot.img, reboot to recovery and flash rom.....
if you wrap your head around HOW it works, its all really simple....so the first step is understanding HOW it works, not blindly following some tutorial or walkthrough.
please try to LEARN and UNDERSTAND what it is you are doing....
PS. you have involved ROOTING too many times in your post...... the rom is already ROOTED, you dont have to ROOT to unlock, flash rom or anything....ROOTING is only applicable INSIDE the booted OPERATING SYSTEM, and has nothing to do with recovery/bootloader

i feel i need to apologize to the board here.
frustrations were not directed at the OP of this thread, just in general....
i have been inundated with PM's and seeing the same barrage of questions for the last few days on the forum....
i can understand everyone's excitement...hell i was excited to get this too.
but you all need to read, and try to take it all in before attempting anything. sometimes those of us that understand whats going on, dont explain in a whole lot of detail, because we take the knowledge for granted, and assume if you are on this site, you are here to learn. it is frustrating to see the same questions pop up on nearly an hourly basis...
all i ask is that you take forth the effort to learn how these tools of ours work and understand that a lot of us working on things like this rely on you guys to assist each other in the process. that leaves us more time to deal with what we need to deal with and try and fix and squash bugs/processes/etc.
in return i apologize if i seem on edge the last couple of days...its because i am. if you can imagine one question multiplied by a hundred.....and having people freaking out about them 'bricking'.....after being warned its possible, but unlikely. i think most of these 'bricks' are salvageable and just require someone that understands how they work.
sorry to seem like an ass, but mainly its because i am an ass, and i have a hard time being nice most of the time.

Thanks pirateghost. I understand how to do the other methods but wanted to use something less complicated with less risk for user error. I read and read everything that is posted on the forums. I try not to ask a question unless I am not understanding what has been posted. Thanks for your patience and understanding.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA

PG, so im pretty sure i "bricked" it lol. im not upset as it was entirely my fault, just wondering if there is any way to get this mother to turn on? i know that when i plug it into the computer it recognizes it but not as anything i have seen lol..if i can find the correct drivers can this be reversed?

Thanks
Thanks to PG for everything and the instructions. I thought I had bricked my phone, but theCube was able to help me on IRC, which is where I suggest anybody go for real-time assistance.

This could off all been avoided with step by step Detail instruction. Why? Well example , I don't follow this forum at all never had an HTC phone but my wife's phone the vivid. All my phone has been Nexus and the galaxy line from Samsung, things over there are a bit different. All I did was flash the ph.img and then after not seen the device reboot I wipe/factory reset and all when to hell from there. Couldn't unlock the bootloader or reboot the phone. How could this happen? Assuming that people should know the basic is wrong. I'm not in any way blaming anyone I did this own my on risk but at the same time I'm super mad had to buy a new phone. As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
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Dxtra said:
As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares
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As a user, you should understand the risks/benefits of the things you download. The devs are under no obligation to keep you from bricking your phone, and to be fair, most everything is covered in the Superguide and the various ROM threads. Even if someone were to post a file called NOT_A_VIRUS.EXE and you downloaded it and it wiped your computer when you ran it, the responsibility is squarely on your shoulders.
As far as I remember, there is no dev/user contract and they're not getting paid for any of this.

Dxtra said:
As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
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oh?
am i being paid to do a job here?
i gave instructions based on how *I* got it to work and duplicated the procedure several times. so its MY responsibility to try and find a way to brick my phone for you?
an RUU cant brick your phone.....however, being a retard can.
this is the type of attitude i would expect my boss to have, if i screwed up a project....but alas, i am here out of my own free will.....
if this is how you feel, then you should get the F off this site.

formicae said:
As a user, you should understand the risks/benefits of the things you download. The devs are under no obligation to keep you from bricking your phone, and to be fair, most everything is covered in the Superguide and the various ROM threads. Even if someone were to post a file called NOT_A_VIRUS.EXE and you downloaded it and it wiped your computer when you ran it, the responsibility is squarely on your shoulders.
As far as I remember, there is no dev/user contract and they're not getting paid for any of this.
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I totally 100% agree with you. If you HAVE taken the time to read and are still a bit confused, ask! For me I'm not even a week into this platform and I WILL NOT do anything that I don't entirely understand. The problem with android, if you could even call it a problem, is that there is such a huge variety of handsets and a big variety methods for doing this, that, and the other thing. It basically results in a non-linear process to get from point A to point B. It's imperative to understand the basic proceedures. If you were here since the G1, great, you've been able to.follow things from the start. I've used iOS for years, and I still love it btw.(only jailbroken of course!) I'll probably buy an iPad 3! The software is integrated with the hardware amazingly well, battery life is phenomenal, and ONCE JAILBROKEN, iOS is an excellent platform. Sure the "spec numbers" may not be as high but it boils down to.performance. That has always been great for me, obviously battery life is exceptional on apple devices as well. I'm hoping with a rooted ICS Rom there won't be cpu-time hogging processes and ill be able to adjust other things accordingly to get somewhat better battery life. I really wish each OEM would take the time to optimize the SW that they're using to the HW that they're selling. B/C from what I've seen the "Nexus" devices generally perform extremely well, even.against higher spec'd devices. So far I'm loving Android and my Vivid. I love the freedom that I get even on a non-rooted device! It's an excellent platform. Flexible, dynamic, and personal. Customization is there from the get-go. There are a million different things that one could do, even while staying un-rooted. The only reason that I've waited so long to get on board with android is ibwas waiting for it to grow and mature, if I could have a device that tri-booted Android, iOS, and WebOS I'd be a very happy person. I love using multiple platforms.
PG - I'm sorry if I bothered you, thanks for the great info though!
I think knowledge-wise I'm at a point where I'm not going to brick my phone. Wish me luck!

Pirateghost said:
oh?
am i being paid to do a job here?
i gave instructions based on how *I* got it to work and duplicated the procedure several times. so its MY responsibility to try and find a way to brick my phone for you?
an RUU cant brick your phone.....however, being a retard can.
this is the type of attitude i would expect my boss to have, if i screwed up a project....but alas, i am here out of my own free will.....
if this is how you feel, then you should get the F off this site.
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Seriously if that is how you feel do get the f*ck off this site please. The devs in all mobile hacking communities are unpaid and do it for fun. You sir are a prime example of WHY THEY LEAVE!!! IF YOU DON'T KNOW AND HAVE READ, ASK, DON'T BE A ****!!!

Dxtra said:
This could off all been avoided with step by step Detail instruction. Why? Well example , I don't follow this forum at all never had an HTC phone but my wife's phone the vivid. All my phone has been Nexus and the galaxy line from Samsung, things over there are a bit different. All I did was flash the ph.img and then after not seen the device reboot I wipe/factory reset and all when to hell from there. Couldn't unlock the bootloader or reboot the phone. How could this happen? Assuming that people should know the basic is wrong. I'm not in any way blaming anyone I did this own my on risk but at the same time I'm super mad had to buy a new phone. As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
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REALLY? You want the UNNPAID DEV'S TO REMOVE ALL THREATS?!?!?! FROM WHAT IS BASICALLY OSS AND A FIRMWARE THAT SOMEBODY DL'D? REALLY? These guys take a FW and cook it into a ROM for FREE and just b/c you didn't take the time to understand it you're gonna put it on them? WTF?!?!?!?

i'll make him a deal. next time we get a hold of something like this, i will let him figure out how to get it on his phone....i don't have to share how...

Dxtra said:
This could off all been avoided with step by step Detail instruction. Why? Well example , I don't follow this forum at all never had an HTC phone but my wife's phone the vivid. All my phone has been Nexus and the galaxy line from Samsung, things over there are a bit different. All I did was flash the ph.img and then after not seen the device reboot I wipe/factory reset and all when to hell from there. Couldn't unlock the bootloader or reboot the phone. How could this happen? Assuming that people should know the basic is wrong. I'm not in any way blaming anyone I did this own my on risk but at the same time I'm super mad had to buy a new phone. As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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You know, its users like you that get Devs frustrated and not want to share the work that they have accomplished. XDA is a site for Devs, its not a WalMart that people can stop by and expect to be spoonfed and be on their merry way. Pirateghost is a very talented Dev who wanted to share something with this community, and instead of saying "thank you" you decide to look a the glass as half empty instead of half full and EXPECT MORE from him?
Reading your post, it tells me that you dont frequent the HTC forums at all, and instead of reading up, you just decided to flash. Just because it didnt go as smoothly as you thought it would is NO REASON to tell a Dev that they needed to do more. That part lays on you.
Next time you decide to tell a Dev that "they need to do more" I think you need to do more reading so it prevents you from having to buy a new phone. If it dosent make sense to you or you dont think theres enough documentation/step-by-step instructions YOU HAVE THE POWER TO SAY NO AND NOT FLASH IT.

Uh, there's a reason every single solitary dev puts a disclaimer on their ROM threads. Their work, if directions are not followed to the letter can turn your device into a +/- 200$ paperweight. I've been lurking around these forums for a hot minute, rarely post ( not an ounce of dev skill being the main reason), and really, when's the last time a dev didn't post at least semi detailed instructions to go along with his/her OP.
@pirateghost- bought a vivid literally 12 hours ago, got home, saw your thread, FOLLOWED THE DIRECTIONS CAREFULLY, and now have ICS on my device. Just wanted to say thanks.
And now for the most epic noob question of all time. Wth is RUU? I'm very familiar with flashing roms, cam, tibu, etc from my days on the sgsII SR forums. So most if not all HTC terminology is new to me.
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[Q] Still able to Root?

Can the Hasoon2000 kit still root the HTC Vivid(4.0.3)? I have found no answer to this as that is why am asking.

At the moment it can't he is working on updating script to work on ics.
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megatronisbeast
Did the toolkit work for you? Ive seen several of your post, and was woundering if it did. Did you have to do anything different other than the instructions?

The toolkit does work, just can't root at the moment.
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megatronisabeast
Would you happen to know about how long it takes to script? I'm just woundering because I hate the new update and would like to root(s-off) and then flash a rom. I liked sense but want vanilla-android. Thanks again for your helpful post. I'm not asking if you know an ETA or anything like that, just from your experience.

playerjunglejosh said:
Would you happen to know about how long it takes to script? I'm just woundering because I hate the new update and would like to root(s-off) and then flash a rom. I liked sense but want vanilla-android. Thanks again for your helpful post. I'm not asking if you know an ETA or anything like that, just from your experience.
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Really don't know that info, however if you want to get root but don't want to wait there are other ways to do it. Let me know if you are interested and I will post them up. Consider though it will take longer than it would using the toolkit.

megatronisabeast
I'll try pretty much anything. I've rooted several devices, so findind a new way for another one won't hurt. Only thing that I really would like to do is avoid making a gold card, but if you have to do that I think I will wait for the toolkit. Thanks!! Do you know if it's possible to temp root, flash a kernal with cwm, and then flash a rom?

Here is what you need to do to root your phone, etc.
First thing is to download android sdk:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
It will allow you to send files to your phone from your computer-no s-off so can't flash kernel in recovery only fastboot.
While that is downloading if you haven't already you need to unlock boot loader by going to:
http://htcdev.com/
Don't forget to keep the unlock code so if you need to relock your boot loader.
Next, it sounds like you want to flash a custom rom. If so the best one in my opinion is found here:
http://www.wcxxperia-nce.com/index.php
You have to register to see the vivid section.
Once there you will download the zip file, put a copy on your phone, the other copy unzip and place the boot.img and wcx recovery in the same folder that you have the fast boot file that you downloaded earlier from sdk.
Then you put your phone into hboot mode, plug it in to usb port, make sure on phone screen is says fast boot usb in red.
Then open command prompt in your folder with fast boot by clicking shift and the right mouse button.
Type in these commands:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash recovery wcxrecovery.img
After those steps power down phone, unplug from computer, return to hboot, click on recovery, then flash the zip file that you placed on there earlier.
That's it, you got it root and all.
Also if you do use his rom, restart phone 3 times to settle phone in and cycle battery 3 times to make sure everything is working correctly.
Here is a video if you feel overwhelmed to help guide you brought to you by randong!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEWa_lUd2bY&feature=youtu.be
Hope this has helped you!

You can use wild child's recovery to perm root ics check it site for the video if you need proof
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We just need S-OFF so we can simplify this entire thing by using CWM. It's so much easier being able to flash a scripted .zip package in there than dealing with fast boot.
Sent from my HTC Vivid

slapdaddy said:
We just need S-OFF so we can simplify this entire thing by using CWM. It's so much easier being able to flash a scripted .zip package in there than dealing with fast boot.
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True, I just wish I knew how long "scripting" takes. I know the video is very clear, and that I'm very good with technology, however I do think that there is a good chance I might mess up...thus I believe I will wait, but I will do some more research be4 deciding what to do

playerjunglejosh said:
True, I just wish I knew how long "scripting" takes. I know the video is very clear, and that I'm very good with technology, however I do think that there is a good chance I might mess up...thus I believe I will wait, but I will do some more research be4 deciding what to do
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I've never done it myself but it shouldn't be that difficult. I think I'm just spoiled coming from the Inspire - it was rooted, S-OFF'd, and had a few custom ROMs up the within a couple days of its launch. The level of development for that device was extreme from the very beginning.
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True, I still have an Inspire and the development is still booming. I personally just wish HTC would have made the Vivid as dependable as the Inspire, bc my Vivid has all sorts of problems. Turns off randomly, and each time when it turns back on it says "upgrading android" and then it optimizes the apps for ICS. Most of the time it won't flip my pictures(rotate)<--yes auto rotate is on...but all in all HTC went down in quality with the Vivid. Personally this is why I want to root, that way I don't have to worry with HTC screwing up the update.

it does work but i have found that busybox isnt installed/installed correctly and have had to install it from the market for titanium backup to recognize my root.

A reply to numerous posts...you don't need S-OFF on the Vivid, developers have yet to figure out how to do so. It's rumored some users have received their phones shipped with S-OFF, but to my knowledge it's not because of any modifications.
Follow this thread to accomplish everything Hassons2000 tool is trying to do for the Vivid. I didn't work for me either.
****read the following thread VERY carefully***
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416836.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.

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so at the moment there is no real way to root the vivid with stock ICS and basically everything stock? im kindaconfused

Kurrytacos said:
so at the moment there is no real way to root the vivid with stock ICS and basically everything stock? im kindaconfused
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The link I provided in my previous post will teach you every thing you need to know. It is definately possible If you get stuck on any particular step or if something doesn't make sense, feel free to ask me to explain.

akafarmer said:
A reply to numerous posts...you don't need S-OFF on the Vivid, developers have yet to figure out how to do so. It's rumored some users have received their phones shipped with S-OFF, but to my knowledge it's not because of any modifications.
Follow this thread to accomplish everything Hassons2000 tool is trying to do for the Vivid. I didn't work for me either.
****read the following thread VERY carefully***
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416836.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.
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Having S-OFF let's you flash a kernel through recovery. It simplifies the flashing process and makes developing ROM packages easier for the user.
Sent from my HTC Vivid

slapdaddy said:
Having S-OFF let's you flash a kernel through recovery. It simplifies the flashing process and makes developing ROM packages easier for the user.
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Do you have S-OFF on your Vivid?

akafarmer said:
Do you have S-OFF on your Vivid?
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I wish I did. I was ready to do testing for those devs working on S-OFF but my Linux skills are relatively non-existent lol.
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[Q] Noob Rooting? removing carrier bloatware

hi people,
new to the forum, never realised this site existed, thankfully im now a member of this great information community
i am new to the whole rooting phones and software blah blah,
i currently have a htc incredible s with optus (australian software) on it,
now i am wanting to remove all the bloatware and just put a standard htc software on the phone that will allow me to upgrade to ics when it comes out in june for my model phone?
now i am not interested in customizing the rom or flashing it with any other aftermarket software, i just want to the original on there,
please note i am noob, and i have tried some of the methods already suggested, but still not having any luck,
so can some1 please shed me some light and explain to me how to do this in a noob manner please?
any info is appreciated
thanks

What methods have you tried?
HTC boot loader unlocked?
Lynts guide?
Novers tool ?
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i have tried a program called revolutinary or something, but bare with me as i am very noob,
if you have any other easy methods, id highly appreciate it

Hi dont worry i started off as a noob to so dont worry!
I am also with optus! YAY!
I need to know your hboot version and if you are s - off!
Here are some noob steps!
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1. Go to Menu (The third button from the left on the buttons at the button). Then click Settings. Then goto Applications. Then uncheck the box called 'Fastboot'
2. Turn off your phone (If you don't know how to, unlock the screen and hold the power button until a menu pops up, then press power off/shut down!
3. When phone is completely shut down, hold the volume down button and the power button, (Hold it for a few seconds). A screen should pop up.
4. Note down all the information and private message me.
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This will show me what method you need to use. So Private Message me A.S.A.P!

Every Australian with an Inc S nearly is Optus lol
OPTUS IS HOPELESSSS COMING FROM TELSTRA
Sorry just wanted to vent my frustration
Anyway if you root, you will not be able to install the OTA. Whichever method you use. Apart from temp root, but it will be lost after reboot.
If you want to root, whichever way you do it (I recommend Revolutionary), you will be able to install an ICS custom rom, assuming one will be made.
Just a warning if you wanted to root now and install the update later on
That is not possible :/

markj338 said:
Every Australian with an Inc S nearly is Optus lol
OPTUS IS HOPELESSSS COMING FROM TELSTRA
Sorry just wanted to vent my frustration
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yeh i gotta admit optus suks compared to telstra in connection , speed and coverage
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Just like you I was new to this also. I used Revolutionary which seemed fine for me. The one piece of advice I could give you is follow the instructions to the letter, I jumped steps, root failed.
Tried again this time more slowly and hey presto it worked and my phone is now rooted and S-Off.
As for roms just search these forums under your phone and read em, do the research first cos that will really help you later on. This made my phone loads better and got rid of the orange bloatware that I really hated, hence looking via google on these forums for options.
Cant stress this enough rooting is the way forward
Have fun

lippylion said:
Cant stress this enough rooting is the way forward
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True, but do not attempt it unless you know exactly what you are doing and the risks it involves.
The bloatware on optus is ridiculous, NONE of the things I ever used. Just sitting there looking stupid in my app drawer, wasting valuable space and ram
That said, I would rather have an unrooted stock phone than a bricked one lol

so no 1 can help? wow
btw i have hboot 2.00.000
seems to not root
helllllllllllllllllllllllp?

adthree said:
so no 1 can help? wow
btw i have hboot 2.00.000
seems to not root
helllllllllllllllllllllllp?
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Revolutinary will not work with HBOOT 2.00.0000. You need to do this method/procedure first before you can use Revolutionary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
The other option is to unlock the bootloader using the procedure at HTCDEV.com and then flash ClockworkMod recovery and then finally you can flash su-3.0.7-efghi.zip to root the Optus ROM. Then you could use Titianium backup to cleanup the bloatware.

u might have to explain it a little better for me pls, as this is my first time doing this, like i said in the op + the download is a dead link my friend

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Revolutinary will not work with HBOOT 2.00.0000. You need to do this method/procedure first before you can use Revolutionary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
The other option is to unlock the bootloader using the procedure at HTCDEV.com and then flash ClockworkMod recovery and then finally you can flash su-3.0.7-efghi.zip to root the Optus ROM. Then you could use Titianium backup to cleanup the bloatware.
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can this process be reversed? , because if I have to take my phone back for warranty they will be like you unlocked bootloader flashed **** blah blah blah

tpbklake said:
Revolutinary will not work with HBOOT 2.00.0000. You need to do this method/procedure first before you can use Revolutionary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
The other option is to unlock the bootloader using the procedure at HTCDEV.com and then flash ClockworkMod recovery and then finally you can flash su-3.0.7-efghi.zip to root the Optus ROM. Then you could use Titianium backup to cleanup the bloatware.
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adthree said:
u might have to explain it a little better for me pls, as this is my first time doing this, like i said in the op
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OK I hate to be so blunt, but it sounds like you need to do a lot more reading and studying about your options and how to perform the procedure before you continue.
The days of simple one-click rooting for noobs on an IncS are no more my friend.
You need to understand how to use the Android SDK tools such as adb.exe and fastboot.exe in order to root your system these days, so I suggest you begin by reading the sticky posts in this forum and then find out how to use adb and fastboot.

I Suppose I Just Bricked My MotoX?

Hello everyone! As most of you may know, AT&T pushed out an update today for the MotoX. A few weeks ago, I so happened to root my MotoX using PwnMyMoto. I installed the OTA update, without knowing this would **** my phone up as I had read that if you update using OTA it will just undo the root. Now my phone is in a constant boot loop. I can't do anything. By the time the phone gets loaded up and connects to WiFi or anything it reboots.
I suppose I'm screwed? Thanks.

NicholasJohnson said:
Hello everyone! As most of you may know, AT&T pushed out an update today for the MotoX. A few weeks ago, I so happened to root my MotoX using PwnMyMoto. I installed the OTA update, without knowing this would **** my phone up as I had read that if you update using OTA it will just undo the root. Now my phone is in a constant boot loop. I can't do anything. By the time the phone gets loaded up and connects to WiFi or anything it reboots.
I suppose I'm screwed? Thanks.
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So many threads already covering this issue. Search, read, and also post to Q&A forum if you have a question.
Sent from my XT1058 using Tapatalk 4

NicholasJohnson said:
Hello everyone! As most of you may know, AT&T pushed out an update today for the MotoX. A few weeks ago, I so happened to root my MotoX using PwnMyMoto. I installed the OTA update, without knowing this would **** my phone up as I had read that if you update using OTA it will just undo the root. Now my phone is in a constant boot loop. I can't do anything. By the time the phone gets loaded up and connects to WiFi or anything it reboots.
I suppose I'm screwed? Thanks.
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So any luck with this? Im trying to figure out how to save the phone if possible myself. Couldn't find the threads mentioned by ^ post.

ronVnor said:
So any luck with this? Im trying to figure out how to save the phone if possible myself. Couldn't find the threads mentioned by ^ post.
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Since your phone is now a useless brick can I buy it from you for $20?
Sent from my Moto X.

Please ignore people who are not considerate enough to link to a post when saying "please search" as if they have actually tried using the search to find information. Because if they had, they could have easily linked you to the corresponding topic, and the discussion would have been over, or they would have found (like i did) limited results on the matter.
Here's an image that should be flashable that includes OTA (cannot revert, or root afterwards at this point)
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471975]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471975[/URL]
I won't claim to know alot, especially about this device, i'm mainly researching because it is my next device I'm purchasing (very soon). Right now there's not alot of information, but there should be official flashable images available for the phone floating around on XDA or some of the other forums.
I wish i could do more to help you in this situation, the last time i bricked a device (HTC Incredible) i was lucky to find an original image to restore it. This is the best method because an unrooted working phone is better than no phone at all, if that AT&T OTA image doesn't flash, my best recommendation is to look for an original motorola firmware and flash it using fastboot, i don't own the device (yet) so i don't have any specific instructions to help you with.

Destreyf said:
Please ignore people who are not considerate enough to link to a post when saying "please search" as if they have actually tried using the search to find information. Because if they had, they could have easily linked you to the corresponding topic, and the discussion would have been over, or they would have found (like i did) limited results on the matter.
Here's an image that should be flashable that includes OTA (cannot revert, or root afterwards at this point)
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471975]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471975[/URL]
I won't claim to know alot, especially about this device, i'm mainly researching because it is my next device I'm purchasing (very soon). Right now there's not alot of information, but there should be official flashable images available for the phone floating around on XDA or some of the other forums.
I wish i could do more to help you in this situation, the last time i bricked a device (HTC Incredible) i was lucky to find an original image to restore it. This is the best method because an unrooted working phone is better than no phone at all, if that AT&T OTA image doesn't flash, my best recommendation is to look for an original motorola firmware and flash it using fastboot, i don't own the device (yet) so i don't have any specific instructions to help you with.
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Teach a man to search and he will have near infinite knowledge. Give a man the answer and he will bug the **** out of you every time his brain farts. Jesus said something similar to that. Good stuff.
Lesson: XDA search sucks. Use Google to search XDA. For example use this search phrase: "moto x bootloop after update root site:forum.xda-developers.com"
Consequentially the first result is the one that would get the OP out of his infinite loop of sadness.
Dont cripple people by saying its ok to ask before searching. No one wins.

mentose457 said:
Teach a man to search and he will have near infinite knowledge. Give a man the answer and he will bug the **** out of you every time his brain farts. Jesus said something similar to that. Good stuff.
Lesson: XDA search sucks. Use Google to search XDA. For example use this search phrase: "moto x bootloop after update root site:forum.xda-developers.com"
Consequentially the first result is the one that would get the OP out of his infinite loop of sadness.
Dont cripple people by saying its ok to ask before searching. No one wins.
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Well in this case as you said yourself, "XDA Search Sucks" even i didn't think of that (and i've been using XDA for several years now) so everyone can learn something by asking questions. (also thank you for the info because now i know a better way to search XDA)

mentose457 said:
Since your phone is now a useless brick can I buy it from you for $20?
Sent from my Moto X.
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Psshhhh...I'll give you $50, OP.
Anyway, you need to delete the update from cache. If you can't stay booted long enough to do this from the system, you may have to do it from fastboot (use the command "fastboot erase cache" without the quotes).

[Q] Root M7 but Maintain HTC ROM (Lollipop 5.0.2/Sense 6.0)

Hi everyone. I'm new to the forum; this is my first post.
I have an M7 on a stock HTC/AT&T ROM running Lollipop 5.0.2 with Sense 6.0.
I would like to root the device so that I can do things like eliminate ads, remove bloatware, run more advanced software, etc., but I do not want to loose things like Beats Audio/Boom Sound. So I'm thinking I just want to stick with the stock AT&T/HTC M7 ROM.
I have seen reference to the Sunshine App, but unless someone can tell me it does something absolutely magical for the one-use $25 payment they expect, I'm fine doing it the free way. I got the impression about Sunshine that it doesn't actually get you all the way to root. If it got me all the way and saved my data/apps, too, I'd be all over it.
Can someone please give me the full path of steps I need to go through to get this done? I'm not a dumb guy. Pretty computer savvy, actually, but there is a lot of jargon and intermediate steps that seem to be involved in all of this. Some of the videos I'm seeing are quite dated at this point, and I have to wonder if they are relevant to an AT&T M7 on Lollipop a this point. But I thrive on step-by-step tutorials, so if you guys point me to the right videos or written tutorials, I should be fine.
Any suggestion on the best way to backup my device would be appreciated, too. I understand I'm going to get all my data and programs wiped somewhere along the path.
Thank you!

djMot said:
Hi everyone. I'm new to the forum; this is my first post.
I have an M7 on a stock HTC/AT&T ROM running Lollipop 5.0.2 with Sense 6.0.
I would like to root the device so that I can do things like eliminate ads, remove bloatware, run more advanced software, etc., but I do not want to loose things like Beats Audio/Boom Sound. So I'm thinking I just want to stick with the stock AT&T/HTC M7 ROM.
I have seen reference to the Sunshine App, but unless someone can tell me it does something absolutely magical for the one-use $25 payment they expect, I'm fine doing it the free way. I got the impression about Sunshine that it doesn't actually get you all the way to root. If it got me all the way and saved my data/apps, too, I'd be all over it.
Can someone please give me the full path of steps I need to go through to get this done? I'm not a dumb guy. Pretty computer savvy, actually, but there is a lot of jargon and intermediate steps that seem to be involved in all of this. Some of the videos I'm seeing are quite dated at this point, and I have to wonder if they are relevant to an AT&T M7 on Lollipop a this point. But I thrive on step-by-step tutorials, so if you guys point me to the right videos or written tutorials, I should be fine.
Any suggestion on the best way to backup my device would be appreciated, too. I understand I'm going to get all my data and programs wiped somewhere along the path.
Thank you!
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just posted this for someone else
Flash TWRP 2.8.5.0
fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-2.8.5.0-m7.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot reboot-bootloader
/ enter recovery
Exit recovery choose yes to Root
when the phone boots up go to the SuperSU Icon in the app drawer
it will ask to update / choose TWRP
after it reboots your rooted

clsA said:
just posted this for someone else
Flash TWRP 2.8.5.0
fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-2.8.5.0-m7.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot reboot-bootloader
/ enter recovery
Exit recovery choose yes to Root
when the phone boots up go to the SuperSU Icon in the app drawer
it will ask to update / choose TWRP
after it reboots your rooted
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Thanks, but I think you are making a few too many assumptions that I understand what your saying.
I don't think I can just flash twrp before unlocking the bootloader, am I right? And I have no clue how to flash twrp, how to set up to do that, and what to have where. I can do the steps if I know what they are. So I really am looking for a pretty explicit set of steps. You've given me some steps, yes, and thank you for that(!!), but I think you're coming from a position of already knowing exactly what you are doing and all the ramifications of each and every step you would take, so by the time it gets to me it just sounds like the cliffs notes and I'm still wondering what the novel is about.
And, yes, I get that some of you here answer these kinds of noobie questions a lot, and it just gets tedious repeating yourselves. Unfortunately for us noobies who come looking to the experts for the straight-up how-to, the responses all seem like "just do this, do that" without any discussion of how to do this and how to do that. I've read several "how do I root my phone" threads here, but the answers all seem just a little to Greekish to me, and to others too I would imagine. The video tutorials here were recorded back when the M7 was brand new and there's no indication at all whether updates along the way to present day have altered the process, or whether there is a safer, better way after all this time. I have no idea if they are relevant today.
I get that I'm asking a lot for such an old device, but I would really appreciate a little of a tutorial approach.
Thanks very much.

djMot said:
Thanks, but I think you are making a few too many assumptions that I understand what your saying.
I don't think I can just flash twrp before unlocking the bootloader, am I right? And I have no clue how to flash twrp, how to set up to do that, and what to have where. I can do the steps if I know what they are. So I really am looking for a pretty explicit set of steps. You've given me some steps, yes, and thank you for that(!!), but I think you're coming from a position of already knowing exactly what you are doing and all the ramifications of each and every step you would take, so by the time it gets to me it just sounds like the cliffs notes and I'm still wondering what the novel is about.
And, yes, I get that some of you here answer these kinds of noobie questions a lot, and it just gets tedious repeating yourselves. Unfortunately for us noobies who come looking to the experts for the straight-up how-to, the responses all seem like "just do this, do that" without any discussion of how to do this and how to do that. I've read several "how do I root my phone" threads here, but the answers all seem just a little to Greekish to me, and to others too I would imagine. The video tutorials here were recorded back when the M7 was brand new and there's no indication at all whether updates along the way to present day have altered the process, or whether there is a safer, better way after all this time. I have no idea if they are relevant today.
I get that I'm asking a lot for such an old device, but I would really appreciate a little of a tutorial approach.
Thanks very much.
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Yeah, that's not going to happen
Read the FAQ >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2228274
and the So you came at XDA-Developers to find help
If your still stuck after that then ask questions.
Hint: I described all the steps in post 2 above

djMot said:
Thanks, but I think you are making a few too many assumptions that I understand what your saying.
I don't think I can just flash twrp before unlocking the bootloader, am I right? And I have no clue how to flash twrp, how to set up to do that, and what to have where. I can do the steps if I know what they are. So I really am looking for a pretty explicit set of steps. You've given me some steps, yes, and thank you for that(!!), but I think you're coming from a position of already knowing exactly what you are doing and all the ramifications of each and every step you would take, so by the time it gets to me it just sounds like the cliffs notes and I'm still wondering what the novel is about.
And, yes, I get that some of you here answer these kinds of noobie questions a lot, and it just gets tedious repeating yourselves. Unfortunately for us noobies who come looking to the experts for the straight-up how-to, the responses all seem like "just do this, do that" without any discussion of how to do this and how to do that. I've read several "how do I root my phone" threads here, but the answers all seem just a little to Greekish to me, and to others too I would imagine. The video tutorials here were recorded back when the M7 was brand new and there's no indication at all whether updates along the way to present day have altered the process, or whether there is a safer, better way after all this time. I have no idea if they are relevant today.
I get that I'm asking a lot for such an old device, but I would really appreciate a little of a tutorial approach.
Thanks very much.
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Hi,
I know its 2019, four years since you posted this request, but I just pulled my HTC One M7 AT&T after 3 years and had the exact same query and needed a way to ensure that steps mentioned in posts like these in 2015 are still relevant/applicable on our device running Android 5.0.2 with HTC Sense 6.
I was looking to have a device specific tutorial to finally make the plunge to install a custom ROM (someone ported Android 10 to this device!) , but remember there being some complexities back in the day to do this on our device. Were you able to get around this? Look forward to your response.
Thanks & regards,
Deepesh