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ok can you use a Sprint HTC One on the ATT network if you unlock remove simlock and all that jazz? Or is there a fundamental hardware difference?
bongo264 said:
ok can you use a Sprint HTC One on the ATT network if you unlock remove simlock and all that jazz? Or is there a fundamental hardware difference?
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Yes but u will be limited to an extent. You will not have access to all their 3g and 4g areas
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The reason I asked was because I thought it was a multimode phone.
No you can't, Sprint hard blocks their phones to prevent you from using it on any other US carrier.
CNexus said:
No you can't, Sprint hard blocks their phones to prevent you from using it on any other US carrier.
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I've had success with using tmobile with calls and data(5mb/s). It picked up the att network too, but I've never tried.
Tazdeviloo7 said:
I've had success with using tmobile with calls and data(5mb/s). It picked up the att network too, but I've never tried.
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Interesting, I was going by the information in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2415587
And I assumed that Sprint did it to all their phones because it would be odd to just hard block a single model.
I have unlocked mine but have had no luck connecting to att when putting my att sim in
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You can sim unlock the Sprint One and use it per this article.
This model of the One supports Sprint's 3G (CDMA 800/850/1900) and LTE (1900 only) networks, along with GSM/EDGE on 850/900/1800/1900 and HSPA 14.4 on the 1900 and 2100MHz bands. That means this phone will roam internationally at 3G speeds. In theory, you could unlock it to work poorly on AT&T's and T-Mobile's networks, but it wouldn't be able to take advantage of fast speeds on either.
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I have HTC one unlocked by Sprint and Galaxy S4 unlocked with DFS tool. Neither can get any signal from ATT or Tmobile including all the MVNO.
Lycamobile sim card will show "Roaming" with HTC one, but it keeps dropping. Dev said Sprint blocked MNC/MCC of ATT/Tmobile.
I can get on T-Mobile fine, never tried AT&T but it would also depend on the frequency that is in use in your market. Regarding the Sprint GS4, the unlock method out for it will only unlock for international only, while the unlock on HTC is a true unlock and will work as long as the bands are compatible.
I have a t-mobile sim in right now my area has hspa on 1900 so I use that for higher speed data than sprint 3G then switch the mode to cdma for voice
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jesmann said:
I have a t-mobile sim in right now my area has hspa on 1900 so I use that for higher speed data than sprint 3G then switch the mode to cdma for voice
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After you've done the unlock for the Sim, can you see the other available networks while the Sprint sim is still installed or do you have to remove the Sprint Sim and install a T-Mobile or ATT sim for it to be able to "see" other networks??
Aerostar601 said:
After you've done the unlock for the Sim, can you see the other available networks while the Sprint sim is still installed or do you have to remove the Sprint Sim and install a T-Mobile or ATT sim for it to be able to "see" other networks??
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Only one sim slot and haven't tried. In Settings>mobile data>network mode you can select CDMA only and see Sprint 3G with either SIM in, LTE/CDMA will give Sprint voice with other SIM and Sprint 3G and/or LTE data only if Sprint SIM card in. GSM/UMTS only can only be selected if a GSM sim is inserted if I recall correctly. The GSM options including search networks are only available on that mode.
It would be cool if I could use T-Mobile's 3G for data and Sprint's CDMA for voice. Is this possible?
El_Colombiano said:
It would be cool if I could use T-Mobile's 3G for data and Sprint's CDMA for voice. Is this possible?
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I do not think so not without manually switching the modes on and off. The moment you select the T-Mobile network your voice & phone number will switch to whatever is registered on the T-Mobile sim.
im0rtalz said:
I do not think so not without manually switching the modes on and off. The moment you select the T-Mobile network your voice & phone number will switch to whatever is registered on the T-Mobile sim.
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Correct however if you have your sprint number integrated with Google Voice you can use apps like Talkatone or GrooveIP for calls via VoIP while on Tmobile data.
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jesmann said:
Correct however if you have your sprint number integrated with Google Voice you can use apps like Talkatone or GrooveIP for calls via VoIP while on Tmobile data.
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I like the way you think.
Hey everyone. So i have a question that i can't find on here so im going to ask it. I have a Verizon HTC one unlocked. The sim car works fine and i can do everything on the phone with the T-mobile sim card. The issue is its always Edge data. Is there a specfic APN i have to use? something im not seeing? Does anyone else have this issue? It is a stock factory HTC One, nothing custom.
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Hey everyone. So i have a question that i can't find on here so im going to ask it. I have a Verizon HTC one unlocked. The sim car works fine and i can do everything on the phone with the T-mobile sim card. The issue is its always Edge data. Is there a specfic APN i have to use? something im not seeing? Does anyone else have this issue? It is a stock factory HTC One, nothing custom.
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I don't think the Verizon model will have the correct radio frequencies to use T-Mo's LTE or HSPA+ network, hence you're stuck on Edge. If you're staying with T-Mo, I'd suggest selling your current One and buying a T-Mo specific HTC One.
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I don't think the Verizon model will have the correct radio frequencies to use T-Mo's LTE or HSPA+ network, hence you're stuck on Edge. If you're staying with T-Mo, I'd suggest selling your current One and buying a T-Mo specific HTC One.
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This is pulled from Verizons website
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(1900/2100) aGPS capable for E911 emergency location, aGPS (assisted), sGPS (simultaneous), Standalone GPS, eCompass, GLONASS
T-mobile uses the 1900 Mhz base band and the HSPA as well. So i don't see the issue in that one.
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This is pulled from Verizons website
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(1900/2100) aGPS capable for E911 emergency location, aGPS (assisted), sGPS (simultaneous), Standalone GPS, eCompass, GLONASS
T-mobile uses the 1900 Mhz base band and the HSPA as well. So i don't see the issue in that one.
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From what I can tell, nobody uses the dual 1900/2100 to achieve 4G like TMO. The UMTS referred to on that phone is for worldwide use, not US. So while it may have the frequencies, it is not set up to use them like TMO. Your software and firmware are set up to work with Verizon and overseas, not with a competitor like TMO. TMO refers to theirs as HSPA+. However, it might work on the new "reframed" 1900 bands (which is called HSPA), but those are not very highly deployed. Unfortunately, I don't see LTE on that list of frequencies. The TMO LTE is really great. EDIT: I mean TMO LTE, which is also 1700/2100.
I suppose you could try unlocking it and flashing the TMO radio, but there is an entire thread on trying to unlock TMO frequencies (in that case on the developer version), and no one has figured it out yet.
I concur that your best bet would be to sell the phone and get a TMO model.
stevedebi said:
From what I can tell, nobody uses the dual 1900/2100 to achieve 4G like TMO. The UMTS referred to on that phone is for worldwide use, not US. So while it may have the frequencies, it is not set up to use them like TMO. Your software and firmware are set up to work with Verizon and overseas, not with a competitor like TMO. TMO refers to theirs as HSPA+. However, it might work on the new "reframed" 1900 bands (which is called HSPA), but those are not very highly deployed. Unfortunately, I don't see LTE on that list of frequencies. The TMO LTE is really great. EDIT: I mean TMO LTE, which is also 1700/2100.
I suppose you could try unlocking it and flashing the TMO radio, but there is an entire thread on trying to unlock TMO frequencies (in that case on the developer version), and no one has figured it out yet.
I concur that your best bet would be to sell the phone and get a TMO model.
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Yeah thats what im thinking. I need to contact and t-mobile rep and see if the re-farmed LTE here. Ill call and ask.
Alright so i called the rep and he said the area i am has been re-farmed to the 1900 range and i should be getting at least HSPA/3G but im not. Very odd issue
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Hey everyone. So i have a question that i can't find on here so im going to ask it. I have a Verizon HTC one unlocked. The sim car works fine and i can do everything on the phone with the T-mobile sim card. The issue is its always Edge data. Is there a specfic APN i have to use? something im not seeing? Does anyone else have this issue? It is a stock factory HTC One, nothing custom.
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Verison use the CDMA, maybe that's why you can only use 2.5G network, just like some phones in China, they only have GSM in common
xunqren said:
Verison use the CDMA, maybe that's why you can only use 2.5G network, just like some phones in China, they only have GSM in common
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yes but this phone has 4g lte already in it which accepts the sim card. Also, i have seen other verizon htc ones with t-mobile and never had a issue. I fell i may have to use a custom rom.
super-6-1 said:
yes but this phone has 4g lte already in it which accepts the sim card. Also, i have seen other verizon htc ones with t-mobile and never had a issue. I fell i may have to use a custom rom.
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What he is referring to is that what Verizon uses as "3G" is CDMA technology. So although they (T-Mobile and Verizon) may be on the same frequency they're using totally different technologies. Just because it has a sim card slot for a Verizon sim doesn't mean the device will be compatible with another carrier's sim. A custom ROM would not resolve this issue. Your best bet would be to sell this device and purchase one from T-Mobile. :fingers-crossed:
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What he is referring to is that what Verizon uses as "3G" is CDMA technology. So although they (T-Mobile and Verizon) may be on the same frequency they're using totally different technologies. Just because it has a sim card slot for a Verizon sim doesn't mean the device will be compatible with another carrier's sim. A custom ROM would not resolve this issue. Your best bet would be to sell this device and purchase one from T-Mobile. :fingers-crossed:
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I know what the best way to go is but i am very curious as to what is really keeping it from going out of edge. baseband? Is the TMO and Verizon radios the same? these are things i need to know! >.<
super-6-1 said:
I know what the best way to go is but i am very curious as to what is really keeping it from going out of edge. baseband? Is the TMO and Verizon radios the same? these are things i need to know! >.<
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My understanding is that the devices run on different systems for 3G and different LTE bands. You wont get more than GSM compatibility (GPRS, EDGE). Hopefully it is something that a software hack can fix but if you read around all the HTC One forums you will see no one has found it. Right now it is not possible.
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What he is referring to is that what Verizon uses as "3G" is CDMA technology. So although they (T-Mobile and Verizon) may be on the same frequency they're using totally different technologies. Just because it has a sim card slot for a Verizon sim doesn't mean the device will be compatible with another carrier's sim. A custom ROM would not resolve this issue. Your best bet would be to sell this device and purchase one from T-Mobile. :fingers-crossed:
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My question is that HTC makes phones for all T mobile verison sprint the same, so I believe its just software problem that we cant use Tmobile 4g lte on Verizon unlocked phone. SO does anyone have any comment for that?
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My question is that HTC makes phones for all T mobile verison sprint the same, so I believe its just software problem that we cant use Tmobile 4g lte on Verizon unlocked phone. SO does anyone have any comment for that?
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It is hardware not software that is the issue. The T-Mobile variant has different bands than the other variants including Verizon. T-Mobile is a GSM variant while Verizon is a CDMA variant. Here is a comparison of the specs for the variants.
CDMA and GSM technology requires the antenna to be done differently. If they are not programmed to use those signals. Nothing you can dox will change it short of putting a new antenna in.
majmoz said:
It is hardware not software that is the issue. The T-Mobile variant has different bands than the other variants including Verizon. T-Mobile is a GSM variant while Verizon is a CDMA variant. Here is a comparison of the specs for the variants.
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SO how do i know if my phone is Verizon CDMA unlocked or GSM unlocked
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SO how do i know if my phone is Verizon CDMA unlocked or GSM unlocked
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Because you can only unlock GSM. Cdma uses the serial/esn number of the device.
Has there been any update on this? I called tmobile and they said it was simply because I couldn't put in the APN. So, there's no chance that rooting the phone and putting a tmobile rom on it would fix the problem and let me get more than edge speeds.
I myself have been wondering the answer to this. The device might seem the same but under the cover they are different. The actual daughter board which the camera, vibrating thing, volume rocker, power button are connected to are fairly different from each other. The CDMA variant is not compatible with the GSM variant. Not even by adding a CDMA daughter board to the GSM motherboard and vice versa, the are made quiet differently and will not be able to use GSM bands on a CDMA m7
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Hi. Greetings to all
I'm from Malaysia, and I'm interested to buy Moto X from RW since it's cheaper than DE. And I'm sure it's locked, but does it support GSM network? On wiki it writes unknown. Before, it used to share the same column as Sprint
Thanks in advance for your answer/s!
syathibiy said:
Hi. Greetings to all
I'm from Malaysia, and I'm interested to buy Moto X from RW since it's cheaper than DE. And I'm sure it's locked, but does it support GSM network? On wiki it writes unknown. Before, it used to share the same column as Sprint
Thanks in advance for your answer/s!
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Since RW uses Sprint as its network, the Moto X you buy from them would be CDMA.
The phone is CDMA but it does have a SIM slot. So I'm wondering if it's possible to use with a GSM carrier. Or how to even root this phone.
The sim card is for the lte.
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Since RW uses Sprint as its network, the Moto X you buy from them would be CDMA.
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The phone is CDMA but it does have a SIM slot. So I'm wondering if it's possible to use with a GSM carrier. Or how to even root this phone.
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That's the thing. Is it really CDMA? If I'm not mistaken, a CDMA phone doesn't use a SIM and doesn't even have a SIM slot. So, what's the SIM slot for? If one can put a SIM card, shouldn't it mean one can also use the GSM network? No?
https://community.republicwireless.com/docs/DOC-1652#CONNECTIVITY
Networks
CDMA (1900 and 800)/EVDO Rev. A - 4G LTE
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https://community.republicwireless.com/docs/DOC-1652#CONNECTIVITY
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Yep, noticed that when I went thru RW website. But can you explain why is there a SIM slot?
syathibiy said:
Yep, noticed that when I went thru RW website. But can you explain why is there a SIM slot?
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Sure, LTE is the reason for SIM.
CDMA is a single-band network (hence why previously you could not talk and surf the web simultaneously). In order to connect on the LTE frequency, the SIM (Subscriber Identity Module) card identifies the phone for registering on the network.
Sprint uses 850Mhz for CDMA and 1900Mhz for LTE.
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Sure, LTE is the reason for SIM.
CDMA is a single-band network (hence why previously you could not talk and surf the web simultaneously). In order to connect on the LTE frequency, the SIM (Subscriber Identity Module) card identifies the phone for registering on the network.
Sprint uses 850Mhz for CDMA and 1900Mhz for LTE.
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So, you're saying all CDMA phones are using SIM now for its LTE connectivity?
I'm not sure if EVERY cdma LTE phone uses a SIM, but I do know that it's very common.
Every LTE phone uses a Sim. Because LTE is for one thing a gsm technology.
The republic wireless moto x hardware probably does support normal non LTE gsm as its the same hardware as the sprint model . that said its probably boot loader locked and firmware locked to not support gsm . they are not that dumb to let people buy the phones to not use on their network .
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Every LTE phone uses a Sim. Because LTE is for one thing a gsm technology.
The republic wireless moto x hardware probably does support normal non LTE gsm as its the same hardware as the sprint model . that said its probably boot loader locked and firmware locked to not support gsm . they are not that dumb to let people buy the phones to not use on their network .
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It's not that I don't wanna use their network. It's because of the limited availability and, price point too
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Every LTE phone uses a Sim. Because LTE is for one thing a gsm technology.
The republic wireless moto x hardware probably does support normal non LTE gsm as its the same hardware as the sprint model . that said its probably boot loader locked and firmware locked to not support gsm . they are not that dumb to let people buy the phones to not use on their network .
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This is what I was curious about. Whether or not the radios are there and just disabled, or whether they do not exist in it at all.
Hello,
I have a T-mobile HTC ONE M7, I'm planing to switch to Verizon, Will I be able to get LTE/4G?
Is my Tmo M7 supported at all by Verizon? What network will I be able to connect to?
Is there any way to make my phone support all or some of Verizon's bands? A ROM or a Radio!! Maybe something else!!
I have tried to find this info, but I couldn't. The only thing I found is that both T-mobile and Verizon use the 1900 band for LTE!!
Please if you know anything about this let me know
Thank you
zaid2999 said:
Hello,
I have a T-mobile HTC ONE M7, I'm planing to switch to Verizon, Will I be able to get LTE/4G?
Is my Tmo M7 supported at all by Verizon? What network will I be able to connect to?
Is there any way to make my phone support all or some of Verizon's bands? A ROM or a Radio!! Maybe something else!!
I have tried to find this info, but I couldn't. The only thing I found is that both T-mobile and Verizon use the 1900 band for LTE!!
Please if you know anything about this let me know
Thank you
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T-Mobile is a GSM phone which doesn't have any CDMA bands, so you will surely limit yourself on their network. Also, T-Mobile and Verizon have different partition tables so the firmware and roms are not compatible. If you know someone on the Verizon network, ask them if you could use their SIM card to see what type of service you get with the TMO phone. Here is comparison chart of the various HTC One's, check out the Secondary Cellular Phone.
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Like said above, TMO htc one use GSM bands and Verizon use CDMA bands. Your phone also need a MEID # (the equivalent of the EMEI for CDMA network) which you don't have on a GSM HTC One (manufacturer-assigned). And afaik, Verizon will not accept non-verizon phone on their network. Your best choice if you want to quit TMO is to choose another GSM carrier (AT&T for example). Your phone also must be sim-unlocked to change carrier.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/verizon-cdma-explained-1189551
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_equipment_identifier
Thanks guys for the replies, I thought there might be some way to change bands :cyclops: I'm not an expert lol
Looks like I will be switching to ATT
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Hello.
I live in a counntry with both GSM and 4G LTE networks. Reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-510/help/virgin-mobile-htc-desire-510-gsm-t2965839 for the efforts of unblocking GSM bands thre is something I don't understand. If I buy the Sprint version of the phone, it is posible for me to use it outside USA with a 4G LTE capable SIM without having to unblock GSM Bands? Or do I need to have CDMA support in my country to be able to use the phone?
Thanks.
You would need a CDMA network; it's not working on GSM networks!
ryogishiki said:
Hello.
I live in a counntry with both GSM and 4G LTE networks. Reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-510/help/virgin-mobile-htc-desire-510-gsm-t2965839 for the efforts of unblocking GSM bands thre is something I don't understand. If I buy the Sprint version of the phone, it is posible for me to use it outside USA with a 4G LTE capable SIM without having to unblock GSM Bands? Or do I need to have CDMA support in my country to be able to use the phone?
Thanks.
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You would need a CDMA network; it's not working on GSM networks!
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Understood. Thanks.
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Understood. Thanks.
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You could try getting the Cricket or Telus version of the device as they are GSM.
dipspit said:
You could try getting the Cricket or Telus version of the device as they are GSM.
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The thing is, where I live, people are selling this phone very cheap (less than half the price) becasuse isn't posible to unlock it on gsm at the moment.
Did it work for you ?
Did it work for you ? cause I have the exactly the same problem with my device and I don't even know what to do till now