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[Q] Using HD7 on Vodafone UK Network

Afternoon gents,
I am trading my iPhone 4 for the HD7 but i don't get very good signal with O2, so i was thinking about buying the handset unlocked and then putting a Vodafone contract SIM in it.
But, will this affect phone updates as carriers control WP7 updates?
Thank you.

You will have to wait for O2 to push updates as it will have an O2 ROM on it (O2 splash logo, locked yahoo search etc).
The only way around this is to flash a Euro branded ROM using Goldcard (exactly what I did) or one of the other methods floating around in the dev thread.

What about buying the phone from one of the East Asia compaines?
Found a site which offers the handset for £250 - checked reviews everywhere and all have recieved their items without fault.
One would assume that these devices would not have the O2 ROM?

No problem with Asia Phone
I bought my HD7 from an Asian shop on ebay. No problems whatsoever and I am also on Vodafone. I did use the disconnect trick and am now runing the nodo update with no issues. I also got my 16GB phone a LOT cheaper.
Crack on, it's well worth it!
Edit: Of course it was completely inbranded

gloves085 said:
I bought my HD7 from an Asian shop on ebay. No problems whatsoever and I am also on Vodafone. I did use the disconnect trick and am now runing the nodo update with no issues. I also got my 16GB phone a LOT cheaper.
Crack on, it's well worth it!
Edit: Of course it was completely inbranded
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What's the disconnect trick?
Did Zune tell you that an update was available?

Casdawer said:
Afternoon gents,
I am trading my iPhone 4 for the HD7 but i don't get very good signal with O2, so i was thinking about buying the handset unlocked and then putting a Vodafone contract SIM in it.
But, will this affect phone updates as carriers control WP7 updates?
Thank you.
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You'll be fine i bought my via o2 but same reason due to poor data signal i ported over to vodafone, and it works brilliantly, update is fine, recently HTC push the NoDoUpdate via ZUNE and everything is runing smoothly.

Same here, I've been on Vodafone for years but pre-ordered a PAYG HD7 from O2 then just got it unlocked and has been great since.
Granted I did flash the latest Euro ROM using GOLDCARD so have no problems with updates or anything but all in all very much glad I sold on my iPhone 4 when I did, thankfully found someone nice to buy it and paid what I did as got a Unlocked one straight from Apple when they first came out.

If i bought a HD7 from the O2 shop, how would i go about unlocking it?
Would this also remove the O2 boot logo?
(You'll have to excuse my stupid questions, i do computers not phones )

You could either pay a unlock site to give you a unlock code or if you know a O2 Contract Customer they can fill out the unlock code request form online and request one for free. If you do it that way it may take two or three attempts as some guys email back and say no cos it's a contract phone but then somebody won't check as much and just issue the code, know loads of people done it this way, took 2 attempts to get mine.
As for the branding NO it would not get rid of it, to do that you would need to flash the phone with a different ROM like a HTC Euro ROM using such as the GOLDCARD Method. This will not make any difference to your unlock status so you know so you can't unlock it by flashing another ROM, and you can flash as often as you want and it won't relock the phone, once it's unlocked it's unlocked.

gloves085 said:
I bought my HD7 from an Asian shop on ebay. No problems whatsoever and I am also on Vodafone. I did use the disconnect trick and am now runing the nodo update with no issues. I also got my 16GB phone a LOT cheaper.
Crack on, it's well worth it!
Edit: Of course it was completely inbranded
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If you had to do the disconnect trick then it isnt de-branded.
The debranded HD7s got the update on the day of release.
I got my HD7 from O2, unlocked it through O2, and then left and went to 3.
I also did the debranded as said on here, which was nice and easy, and I got the nodo update on the day of release

loomx said:
If you had to do the disconnect trick then it isnt de-branded.
The debranded HD7s got the update on the day of release.
I got my HD7 from O2, unlocked it through O2, and then left and went to 3.
I also did the debranded as said on here, which was nice and easy, and I got the nodo update on the day of release
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I assure it is unbranded and the update was not available on the day of release as reported all over the web. I have since however rolled back the update and received the official update with HTC additions via Zune.

Has anyone got a RUU or other method 2.3 on their Bell Incredible?

I've tried goldcard with 3 different SD cards, tried it multiple tiimes even with the instructions from the downgrade bootloader walkthrough thread. Keep getting error 130.
I'm not impressed with the Incredible S so far, not so great signal reception... I sold my Desire for this? should have waited, everything else about it had me sold, but going from vanilla GB (villanROM) on my desire leaves much to be wanted.
I bought it earlier today... i'm considering walking into Bell and returning it for an Atrix.

I've heard that the bell version is tough to crack, but if you want my advice I wouldn't go for an attic, everone I have spoken to has been dissapointed with it. What other choices do you have?
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk

Well i'm not sure if they will give full refund next day :S but the guy I bought it from said they do 14 days in store credit for sure.
Bell doesn't really have anything else that interests me, Galaxy S vibrant (meh) and Desire Z 4G (no thanks)
Telus uses the same bands/towers in Canada (that's who my provider is I just unlocked the IS) and they have the Nexus S which I was going to go for at first but no shops have it in stock.
I really should have just sat on my Desire for a while longer. I also have a Motorola Milestone...

I have both the Atrix and the Incredible S. I had similar reception issues on Telus and Bell's HSPA network. So far no issues on Rogers (in Red Deer, AB). I love my Atrix. I got an incredible S for the camera. So for I'm impressed with the incredible S but I did just get it last night.

Jay_Bee said:
Well i'm not sure if they will give full refund next day :S but the guy I bought it from said they do 14 days in store credit for sure.
Bell doesn't really have anything else that interests me, Galaxy S vibrant (meh) and Desire Z 4G (no thanks)
Telus uses the same bands/towers in Canada (that's who my provider is I just unlocked the IS) and they have the Nexus S which I was going to go for at first but no shops have it in stock.
I really should have just sat on my Desire for a while longer. I also have a Motorola Milestone...
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You should be able to get a refund if the you have the phone for less than 14 days AND the talk time on it is less than 30 minutes.
Cheers

gmarcoux said:
I have both the Atrix and the Incredible S. I had similar reception issues on Telus and Bell's HSPA network. So far no issues on Rogers (in Red Deer, AB). I love my Atrix. I got an incredible S for the camera. So for I'm impressed with the incredible S but I did just get it last night.
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Everyone I ask says the Atrix just isn't what they expected, it looks awesome on paper spec wise, but MotoBlur takes all the fun out of it.
My friend with a Nexus S says it seems very slow compared to his. The IncS has pretty much the same cpu and ram as the Nexus S so I think the advantages of dual core phones are yet to come and see no real world performance benefit as of yet.
I'm giving it some more time, and pretty much just playing with the IncS over wi-fi and testing it out and not using any talk time.
I've unlocked and rooted/updated my Moto Milestone in prep to sell it. I'll give myself a few more days to decide, but with no RUU/OTA working on it i'm left wondering what will be it's future.
Should have kept my Desire until there was more Dev support for either, but I did check through the forums here, I knew it wasn't rooted yet but thought I could get GB on it out of the box.

Spoke to a Bell employee, he told me that they are testing GB for IS atm but couldn't tell me the release date.
If it is just the Android version that's bothering you, I would wait it out.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA Premium App

Once you unlock the IS, you can't return it coz it voids the warranty.
But I'm using it on Fido, and I'm having no reception problems at all.

So when bell finally releases the GB update there will be an RUU for us to use for those of us who don't get an OTA right?

Sightr said:
So when bell finally releases the GB update there will be an RUU for us to use for those of us who don't get an OTA right?
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I don't really understand why some are saying that sim card unlocked phones won't get OTA. Sim unlocking is not same as rooting the phone, unless the OTA update also checks what carrier you are using lol..
Please correct me if I am wrong.

kattara said:
Once you unlock the IS, you can't return it coz it voids the warranty.
But I'm using it on Fido, and I'm having no reception problems at all.
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Bell will give you the sim unlock code for 50$ no mention of any voiding of warranty... I bought my unlock from gsmunlock.net, it's the same thing as what the provider would have gave me.

Jay_Bee said:
Bell will give you the sim unlock code for 50$ no mention of any voiding of warranty... I bought my unlock from gsmunlock.net, it's the same thing as what the provider would have gave me.
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What?? Really? They told me at the store that if I unlocked it, it would void the warranty. But yeah, I bought mine online for way cheaper...

kattara said:
What?? Really? They told me at the store that if I unlocked it, it would void the warranty. But yeah, I bought mine online for way cheaper...
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Providers have access to the unlock codes, sorry it was actually Telus I contacted about a sim unlock before selling my Desire on the weekend, HTCs are easily unlockable... i'm sure Bell is the same.
I'm sure it was just an uninformed sales rep, or was just trying to prevent you from going to another provider or them losing the cash they would have made off it lol.

You can unlock here for $25
http://www.htcimeiunlock.com/
I'm positive that unlocking your SIM does not void your HTC warranty whatsoever since it does not alter the phone's software or hardware in any way other then "unlocking" it.
Perhaps it'll void your right to return/exchange the product, but in which case I doubt the store rep will even bother to check if the phone you are returning is unlocked or not...

I used cellunlock.net Google the site name + coupon and you can find a code for 50% off
I unlocked 2 android phones for under 20$ haha, had the code for the HTC in about an hour, the Motor took 24 hours.

Jay_Bee said:
I used cellunlock.net Google the site name + coupon and you can find a code for 50% off
I unlocked 2 android phones for under 20$ haha, had the code for the HTC in about an hour, the Motor took 24 hours.
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Sweet! Will bookmark it for my next phone lol

Jay_Bee said:
I used cellunlock.net Google the site name + coupon and you can find a code for 50% off
I unlocked 2 android phones for under 20$ haha, had the code for the HTC in about an hour, the Motor took 24 hours.
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Yep! That's what I used, with the 50% off coupon. It came to like $10.
Well, I'm glad to know unlocking it "shouldn't" void the warranty, then. I was pretty upset that a $500 phone wouldn't have any warranty on it.

kattara said:
Yep! That's what I used, with the 50% off coupon. It came to like $10.
Well, I'm glad to know unlocking it "shouldn't" void the warranty, then. I was pretty upset that a $500 phone wouldn't have any warranty on it.
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Well if you want to be sure I'd call HTC directly instead of asking those carrier store monkeys

bebolf said:
Well if you want to be sure I'd call HTC directly instead of asking those carrier store monkeys
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Yeah, that's an idea, huh? lol But either way, I've already unlocked my device. I couldn't return it anyways since I've used it over the 14-day return policy.

bebolf said:
I don't really understand why some are saying that sim card unlocked phones won't get OTA. Sim unlocking is not same as rooting the phone, unless the OTA update also checks what carrier you are using lol..
Please correct me if I am wrong.
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I had contacted HTC a few weeks ago asking about this. Here's what they said:
With OTA software upgrades, it's a bit iffy. In some circumstances, update sofware is provided to local stores, who should be able to update the phone for you (policies on this differ from carrier to carrier, where some may be okay with updating an unlocked phone, and others won't).
Sometimes, a downloadable version can be found on our website for the phone in question:
http://www.htc.com/ca/support/incredibles-bell/downloads/
Each device has a specific address that it checks for its updates. Theoretically, the unlocking process shouldn't change that. Your device should still continue to recieve updates, however, it really depends on Bell's update policy when it comes to phones no longer on their network.
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So my question stands... if Bell decides to be dicks about it (wouldn't put it past them ) and they don't push the OTA to our phones, will we be able to find an RUU somewhere that should work? (possibly on that link in the quote?)

Voda vs P4U on branding.

In the process of negotiating an upgrade deal. Currently on Voda.
Just wanted to know the difference between getting the phone from Vodafone or P4U.
Does the branding make much difference ??

branded phones seem to get updates later as they have to get branding added and in some cases don't get some update at all due to vodafone/networks not signing the ok on versions

Huge difference as stated above, update always comes late on branded phones, or never come.
But unbranded phone gets updates directly from HTC not vodafone so you are guaranteed to have them as soon as they are released.
Also, you have no bloatware on unbranded phones, and normally unbranded phones are unlocked on any network meaning when you sell the phone, it worthes more. But there are exceptions, my galaxy s3 lte is unbranded but locked to orange.
Anyway, if p4u's price is acceptable, better go with them. I sacrificed my 40% off discount with Orange and went upgrade with p4u even paying a bit more, but I never regretted.

Anyone actually got a branded phone?
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app

I can't comment on voda but I've just recieved a branded device from EE and Tbh there is no bloat or pre installed crapps in fact it looks completely the way HTC intended. I'm guessing different networks will have different amounts of input but more are straying away from loading the handsets with crap for update purposes. If your rooted it don't matter anyway.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

I read reports on the Vodafone forum of their customers receiving phones that have Vodafone on the bootscreen, definitely branded and I would definitely avoid that if you can P4U will be unbranded and will of course price match anyway.

Electronic Punk said:
I read reports on the Vodafone forum of their customers receiving phones that have Vodafone on the bootscreen, definitely branded and I would definitely avoid that if you can P4U will be unbranded and will of course price match anyway.
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Can confirm the Vodafone version has a Vodafone boot and shutdown screen. They haven't put any bloatware on it but it's definitely branded

Is there any branding on the phone itself or just software?

I have the "One" branded to Three. As far as i can see there are branded start and shutdown and two branded apps "Three Music" and "Three Games". They seem to have also installed the Amazon and Ebay apps.. I think given a chance i'll be installed the HTC standard build as soon as one is available... neither of the above apps are worth anything to me..

sebsal said:
Can confirm the Vodafone version has a Vodafone boot and shutdown screen. They haven't put any bloatware on it but it's definitely branded
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Sorry to clarify, the hardware is identical and has no Vodafone markings.
The phones software is Vodafone branded and comes with both their CID and usual bloat.

Just to throw this out there.
When I had a unbranded S3 Vodafone users got their official OTA updates before me.

Pretty sure you could use Kies to get it the same time if you really wanted.
With Samsung you would never be left hanging for a JB compatible HBOOT if you wanted it.

Electronic Punk said:
I read reports on the Vodafone forum of their customers receiving phones that have Vodafone on the bootscreen, definitely branded and I would definitely avoid that if you can P4U will be unbranded and will of course price match anyway.
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Your not wrong I got a simfree device from them on contract.
Good times.
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It's got no Vodafone branding on the actual handset, and no pre-installed apps, only the Voda logo when staring up and shutting down

Yeah thing is...your cid
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Hi I have question, I get today HTC One Gold from P4U and there is Vodafone branded rom, I konow was lots question about this but can someone write me step by step what I spouse to do to get on my HTC One factory clear rom and after get update via OTA.
Thanks

Buying a Verizon HTC One overseas...

Hi,
I recently purchased a HTC One over here in the UK and a few weeks later, the phone got blacklisted. As I was massively out of cash I tried to eBay it and listed it with a bad IMEI/ESN. Somebody in the States got back to me and offered a swap with a Verizon HTC One. I'm not too experienced with the phone but I seem to remember hearing that a Verizon HTC One sometimes requires different methods for rooting or installing ROMs to the international versions. Can anybody guide me here whether or not I should be able to use the phone and root it/flash ROMs as I would with my original?
Thanks.

ConzSouL said:
Hi,
I recently purchased a HTC One over here in the UK and a few weeks later, the phone got blacklisted. As I was massively out of cash I tried to eBay it and listed it with a bad IMEI/ESN. Somebody in the States got back to me and offered a swap with a Verizon HTC One. I'm not too experienced with the phone but I seem to remember hearing that a Verizon HTC One sometimes requires different methods for rooting or installing ROMs to the international versions. Can anybody guide me here whether or not I should be able to use the phone and root it/flash ROMs as I would with my original?
Thanks.
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Installing ROMs are identical to the International One. Now, the bootloader unlock for the Verizon One doesn't happen through HTCdev. Rumrunner is required for unlocking the bootloader and S-OFF. Once the bootloader is unlocked, the custom recovery is flashed the same way as the International variant. Rooting is also the same.
However, there are certain issues with bootloader unlocking the Verizon One on Kitkat 4.4.2. Im not too sure about that, the Verizon forum for the One should guide you more in that area.
And, the ROMs for the Verizon will be listed on the Verizon One Android Development, not on the International One forum. There aren't as many ROMs for the Verizon as compared to International unlocked

ConzSouL said:
Hi,
I recently purchased a HTC One over here in the UK and a few weeks later, the phone got blacklisted. As I was massively out of cash I tried to eBay it and listed it with a bad IMEI/ESN. Somebody in the States got back to me and offered a swap with a Verizon HTC One. I'm not too experienced with the phone but I seem to remember hearing that a Verizon HTC One sometimes requires different methods for rooting or installing ROMs to the international versions. Can anybody guide me here whether or not I should be able to use the phone and root it/flash ROMs as I would with my original?
Thanks.
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If you're not on Verizon in the States, do NOT buy it. Pretty sure it won't work outside the US

Is my M9 Fake? New Unit with TWRP and S-OFF out of the box!

Hello I bought an M9 in a local online store. When I received it today it was already opened! When I checked it is already in Marshmallow with 3.41.651.4. A quick google search says this software is from Sprint? But I bought I bought an international unlocked model.
So I checked the bootloader and it was locked, but already S-OFF! I then went to recovery and to my surprise TWRP booted. Also going to recovery I get this black splash screen with HTC logo on it. Is this normal? All the videos I watch entering the recovery they get white splash screen with green HTC logo.
Also the reboot menu is different. I have attached some images.
I also can not get 4G signal with it! will this work? http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/how-to-change-network-bands-gsm-devices-t3135401 I think since Sprint ROM was initially loaded maybe I am having different baseband/modem?
Anyway I have successfully unlocked the bootloader, with this is fake?
Thanks!

KristianKenneth said:
Hello I bought an M9 in a local online store. When I received it today it was already opened! When I checked it is already in Marshmallow with 3.41.651.4. A quick google search says this software is from Sprint? But I bought I bought an international unlocked model.
So I checked the bootloader and it was locked, but already S-OFF! I then went to recovery and to my surprise TWRP booted. Also going to recovery I get this black splash screen with HTC logo on it. Is this normal? All the videos I watch entering the recovery they get white splash screen with green HTC logo.
Also the reboot menu is different. I have attached some images.
I also can not get 4G signal with it! will this work? http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/how-to-change-network-bands-gsm-devices-t3135401 I think since Sprint ROM was initially loaded maybe I am having different baseband/modem?
Anyway I have successfully unlocked the bootloader, with this is fake?
Thanks!
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First of all, this is M7 forum, so you're in a wrong place.
Second - it's not fake, it's a genuine HTC M9, but a used one. If it was fake, you wouldn't be able to unlock your bootloader via htc dev or any tool for HTC.
So, to conclude - you were scamed because you bought a second hand phone under impression it was new. Also, a Sprint version, and seller told you it was international. You figure out your next step - return it, or keep using it although it's not what you payed for

agreed with the guy above. since it's got s-off then either it really was an international phone but whoever had it before you messed with it flashing a different firmware, ROM, and recovery, Or whoever sold it to you lied about the fact that it's a used sprint phone.
Whatever you do next is up to you. But next time you buy something online (not just a phone), I would advise you to choose a reputable eBay seller with a clear return policy.
Best of luck.

donkeykong1 said:
If it was fake, you wouldn't be able to unlock your bootloader via htc dev
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And if it was fake, there wouldn't even have an HTC bootloader loaded on it :laugh:
Unfortunately this "buy an international variant - get a Sprint/Verizon variant" scam is pretty common, even from reputable Ebay sellers, who most of time dont know much about the phones they are selling and use the wrong information. This is exactly what happened when I bought my M7, checked the PID# to be sure I was buying a M7_UL and got a M7_U.....

^True.. that's why a clear return policy is a must. You can change everything about this phone since it's got s-off, but the idea of getting something other than what you paid for sounds unacceptable to me.