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I just got got a Nexus S (upgrade from Nexus One w00t! ) and I'm really interested in getting a skin for it. I'm looking specifically at buying a Wrapsol one since I've read that it doesn't have the orange peel effect. I'm just confused over the "ultra protective film" (UPF) and the "original scratch protection" (OSP) that they're selling. I know that the UPF is a dry application and is $30 while the OSP is $25. I've put on many screen protectors in my life before but this is gonna be my first entry into the world of skins. What's the main difference between a dry and wet application protector? What is the better choice? Thanks for your help!
The only difference between wet and dry applicator is pretty much just the method of putting it on. Some people are not comfortable with spraying liquid on their phone so dry applications may appeal to them. The problem I see with this is that unless you are super pro like the guy in the video, you're going to have a frustrating time applying a dry protection on a curvy device like the nexus s. You pretty much have one shot at aligning everything. With a wet application, you can moisten the adhesive and actually slide the film around to align the curves perfectly and slowly work your way through.
I'm not sure about the difference in texture. I've seen some degree of orange peel in all wet applications with zagg being the worst. I'm not sure if wrapsol is orange peel free either due to the nature of the scratch resistant material used to make these film. I believe they use polyurethane.
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I purchased a wrapsol protector for my s and honestly I regretted it the second I put it on. They said it stretches to fit the entire screen but it didn't and it doesn't have a hole for the front facing camera so images are blurry. I'm glad they have a 30 day money back return period cause this is going back as soon as my sgp protector comes.
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The only difference between wet and dry applicator is pretty much just the method of putting it on. Some people are not comfortable with spraying liquid on their phone so dry applications may appeal to them. The problem I see with this is that unless you are super pro like the guy in the video, you're going to have a frustrating time applying a dry protection on a curvy device like the nexus s. You pretty much have one shot at aligning everything. With a wet application, you can moisten the adhesive and actually slide the film around to align the curves perfectly and slowly work your way through.
I'm not sure about the difference in texture. I've seen some degree of orange peel in all wet applications with zagg being the worst. I'm not sure if wrapsol is orange peel free either due to the nature of the scratch resistant material used to make these film. I believe they use polyurethane.
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Thanks for the insightful response! One of the things that has scared me away from things like Zagg and other wet application skins is the fact that after a couple of days, weeks, or months, the skin starts to peel off off the corners. Is that still a problem with skins today? (I saw the peeling off the corners a couple of years ago from my friends' blackberries.) Or is that more of the user's fault? I heard that you should ceram-wrap the devise completely also while it's drying so that everything sticks. Is that true? Is there an effective way of applying the skin so that they don't peel off by themselves off corners over time?
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I purchased a wrapsol protector for my s and honestly I regretted it the second I put it on. They said it stretches to fit the entire screen but it didn't and it doesn't have a hole for the front facing camera so images are blurry. I'm glad they have a 30 day money back return period cause this is going back as soon as my sgp protector comes.
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Thanks for letting me know about the screen protector! I'm already planning on using a Clarivue screen protector. I'm more curious about the back and side protection itself. How were they? Did they have the orange peel effect? How did they feel like? Did you use the wet or dry one? How easy was it to apply? Lastly, did the skin ever start peeling off by itself?
Again, thanks for all of y'all's responses!
I personally use ghost armor and haven't experienced any peeling over a month now. The installation is crucial and patience is key. I wouldn't go so far as to ceram wrap the device. Just make sure you press on all edges and curves for 15 seconds or so once it begins to adhere to make sure it sticks permanently. Another tip is to lightly heat those areas with a hair dryer. It is very important that you keep your hands free, work in a lint free area, and let it dry for 24 hours. Don't put in your pocket for a day or two. The reason is because if dust accumulates on any part of the edge, it will lose adhesive there and make it prone to lifting or peeling. If you can get past the drying stage, then you shouldn't experience any peeling unless forced.
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I personally use ghost armor and haven't experienced any peeling over a month now. The installation is crucial and patience is key. I wouldn't go so far as to ceram wrap the device. Just make sure you press on all edges and curves for 15 seconds or so once it begins to adhere to make sure it sticks permanently. Another tip is to lightly heat those areas with a hair dryer. It is very important that you keep your hands free, work in a lint free area, and let it dry for 24 hours. Don't put in your pocket for a day or two. The reason is because if dust accumulates on any part of the edge, it will lose adhesive there and make it prone to lifting or peeling. If you can get past the drying stage, then you shouldn't experience any peeling unless forced.
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Thanks! I'll definitely do what you suggested!
Well, I ended up ordering the Wrapsol wet application one. I'm just going to be using the back and side protection. I hope this goes well....
I've done both on 2 nexus S I own, I bought wrapsol because I could apply it dry.
However, after my experience with the 1st "dry" application I applied the second on "wet" why? because the end result is much smoother and less detectable.
btw if you are wondering why I need 2 Nexus S'es, one for me and one for the wife.
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I've done both on 2 nexus S I own, I bought wrapsol because I could apply it dry.
However, after my experience with the 1st "dry" application I applied the second on "wet" why? because the end result is much smoother and less detectable.
btw if you are wondering why I need 2 Nexus S'es, one for me and one for the wife.
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Cool, thanks for letting me know! I heard that the wet one is a matte finish. Is that true? Also, what did you think of the screen protector portion of the wet skin?
I actually wet the ultra protective film version, its glossy not matte. Its very thick compared to the Zagg Ive used in the past, someone said it was made of polyurethane.
so far so good I like the way it looks on the screen portion with a lot less orange peel than the Zagg.
Ok am really! careful with my screen! but some how i have some little hair line Scratches! on my screen.. is there any way i can remove them safe? cheers
Should've put a screen protector immediately when you got it.
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you may find adding a protector now will hide the scratches if they are small enough
They may be superficial. Did you try some good rubbing with a lint free cloth. I had no sp for the longest with no scratches
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Ok am really! careful with my screen! but some how i have some little hair line Scratches! on my screen.. is there any way i can remove them safe? cheers
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sadly NO, If it makes you feel any better my Note always has a case on and just once i removed it for 5 minutes, I manage to drop the phone on a concrete now my screen is scratched thank good the glass didn't break.
I have a scratch on my Galaxy Note also :/ I've only just had it for a week. I only noticed the scratch when I was about to put the screen protector on. I think it happened due to me showing my sister my phone, and she gave my phone to my TWO year old niece to draw on :/ I'm so upset and angry about it. I've dropped my HTC Desire HD many times and not a single scratch.
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I have a tiny little scratch on my note as well. Its no big deal because it can't be seen unless you direct it to the light at a certain angle but it still bugs me.
It seems like the scratch was made with the s pen as it has the pattern of something I had drawn when I was trying out the s pen.
I'll be getting a screen film soon to avoid any further scratches.
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I got a 1mm deep scratch on my screen to
again always had a cover on it and when i took the cover off ... guess what .. it fell on its face and got the scratch.
Now i have the flip cover on it and wouldn't risk taking it off again.
As they mention : Gorilla grass is scratch resistant only.
Look up 'Displex' - it's the best scratch remover there is, and it's cheap too.
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This isn't for the faint of heart....
I built scale plastic model airplanes for 30+ years until the bifocals & carpel tunnel made it impossible to hold an airbrush.
The clear plastic "glass" parts, if not packaged in a bag, can get scratched, screwing up a good looking model.
For starters, try some mild toothpaste. DO NOT rub very hard. It's glass, but you don't want to really screw it up...just in case. After toothpaste, try buffing it with a sheep skin cloth (chamois). Now this one will sound silly, but it works on plastic, clear future floor wax. I used it from time to time to fill the spider cracks where they didn't get the mold clean when they injected the plastic.
I haven't had to fix a gorilla glass/hardened glass screen, but I've used these tricks on my old windows phones & pda's after too many uses of the stylus.
I don't use a protector on either my streak, for over a year, or my note for the last 3 months. I don't understand how they are getting scratched.
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This isn't for the faint of heart....
I built scale plastic model airplanes for 30+ years until the bifocals & carpel tunnel made it impossible to hold an airbrush.
The clear plastic "glass" parts, if not packaged in a bag, can get scratched, screwing up a good looking model.
For starters, try some mild toothpaste. DO NOT rub very hard. It's glass, but you don't want to really screw it up...just in case. After toothpaste, try buffing it with a sheep skin cloth (chamois). Now this one will sound silly, but it works on plastic, clear future floor wax. I used it from time to time to fill the spider cracks where they didn't get the mold clean when they injected the plastic.
I haven't had to fix a gorilla glass/hardened glass screen, but I've used these tricks on my old windows phones & pda's after too many uses of the stylus.
I don't use a protector on either my streak, for over a year, or my note for the last 3 months. I don't understand how they are getting scratched.
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Clear floor polish works on harder clear plastic. Never tried on glass. WOrth trying for $10 from local supermarket. And then put a cover on it
I'm lucky so far - only scratches have been on the screen protectors. But then I need to replace them - used up two so far, and good quality 6H ones too! Better than a scratched glass though - sorry to hear about that!
Hello everyone!
Well, to make my sad story short: My Note fell gently on the floor with the screen down and it slid around 20 cms on the floor. I guess there was sand on the floor because when I checked my screen had a ~1 cm scratch, thick as a strand of hair (God, I hate to remember that moment... ).
So well, when I use my Note I can see a rainbow effect where the scratch is, it isn't very noticeable for other people but I do see it when I use it, specially on white backgrounds or high brightness, AND I can also feel it with the S-Pen. When I got home I immediately started reading about screen protectors and ordered an SGP Ultra Oleophobic one, I'm still waiting to get it next week .
My question is: Some people claim that some screen protectors with wet applications (like XO Skins) can hide these scratches and I'm wondering if some of you guys with scratches on your Note have successfully hid them with these protectors. I'll try with the SGP one when I get it to see the results but I'm interested to know if the other ones work also.
Thanks a lot everyone!
I have used a Skinomi and it reduced a scratch significantly on 2 phones- I never thought that the fact it was a wet application may have helped a bit.... Thankfully, I put a crappy protector straight on my note..I scratched 2 gorilla glass phones within 3 days of getting them...I am a slow learner.
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Hello everyone!
Well, to make my sad story short: My Note fell gently on the floor with the screen down and it slid around 20 cms on the floor. I guess there was sand on the floor because when I checked my screen had a ~1 cm scratch, thick as a strand of hair (God, I hate to remember that moment... ).
So well, when I use my Note I can see a rainbow effect where the scratch is, it isn't very noticeable for other people but I do see it when I use it, specially on white backgrounds or high brightness, AND I can also feel it with the S-Pen. When I got home I immediately started reading about screen protectors and ordered an SGP Ultra Oleophobic one, I'm still waiting to get it next week .
My question is: Some people claim that some screen protectors with wet applications (like XO Skins) can hide these scratches and I'm wondering if some of you guys with scratches on your Note have successfully hid them with these protectors. I'll try with the SGP one when I get it to see the results but I'm interested to know if the other ones work also.
Thanks a lot everyone!
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Here in Canada there are kiosks in the Malls for a company called "Ghost Armor" and the screen protectors they apply (you can get them full body skinned as well) cover and fill scratches (or at least the appearance of them anyways).
Its a good product but I dont know if you have them in your country...
ZAGG Invisible Shield will totally hide it. The adhesive fills anything. It covered a noticeable gouge on my old S2.
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People should always use a screen shield/protector. I have the SGP Glas.t on my Note. It's also scratch proof. I tend to leave my phone in the same pocket as my coins.
Thanks for all your replies, guys! I'll see the results when I get the screen protector shipped and I'll post the results. If it doesn't work then for sure I'll try to get one of the ones you mentioned.
So I love my galaxy note and I'm a bit paranoid about scratches to it.
Now I think you would need to use the s pen to enjoy the full experience but I'm afraid to scratch it when there might be sand or other material between the tip and the screen.
If I clean the screen and the pen with my shirt everytime I use it am I safe then?
Today I went to my local store to get some more info and if it would affect the screens accuracy and he told me if Samsung sells them for the note I could be sure that it wont affect it because it would otherwise generate to much complaints.
And they generally cost 10 euro there and ive seen some that cost 50$ on the internet so what could be the difference and is it worth it?
Thanks in advance
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It will be a real pain to clean the screen and the pen everytime you wanna use it don't you think ?
I never liked screen protectors myself but I changed my mind after I made a scratch on the screen using the pen
you could go for a screen protector but they are prone to indents and scratches while using the pen so I don't know if you'd like it
then again you could get the sgp screen protector made of real glass but they are expensive . Costs around 40 bucks
http://www.spigen.com/sgp-samsung-g...r-glas-t-premium-tempered-glass-series-1.html
Your call....
I personally use a screen protector, cheap and easy to replace, sure it might affect the use of the pen slightly (pen doesn't glide as smooth) but ive been sketching and taking notes with the pen and a screen protector fitted from the day after i bought my Note and can honestly say its not as bad as some people would have you believe.
Anything abrasive that can get between pen and screen can also get between your finger and the screen, therefore you're just as likely to get scratches from your finger as you are from the pen, I personally use a screen protector but that gorilla glass is good stuff and unless you slide it across the floor your unlikely to get any deep scratches just from day to day use.
I got a tiny scratch on my screen and I've no idea how as I only every put my phone in my jeans on its own. On top of this I was using a flip cover. I have now relegated the flip cover to my drawer as I found that I was getting tiny abrasions all over the bezel (especially on the corners) simply from the act of repeatedly putting my phone in my pocket. They are really only microscopic and mainly visible when you hold the phone up to the light but still very annoying. I do wish Samsung would choose a matte polycarbonate material instead of those stupid glossy plastic nonsense. Anyway, rant over. I DEFINITELY would use a screen protector and a more holistic case than the - frankly - useless flip covers unless little scratches don't bother you at all.
Screen protector and case from day 1. All like new.
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i wouldnt worry too much, as somebody else said that gorilla glass is tough. i only had my note a week so cant really comment but i had a galaxy s for almost 2 years (also gorilla glass screen) never had a screen protector and it was always in my jeans pocket with loose coins keys n lighters n after 21 months it has 2 of the tiniest scratches i have ever seen
Just get a screen protector, no need to worry about abrasive, tiny particles (i.e. Sand) getting stuck on tip of finger/S Pen and scratching your screen.
Gorilla Glass is scratch resistant, not proof!
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So I've been reading the thread about not using a screen protector because it can mess with the s-pen but im curious if anyone who has one has actually had issues. I used to buy screen protectors but last time I did i got frustrated with air bubbles and gave up. My year old g2x which has gorilla glass still doesnt have a scratch on the screen. I carry my phones in leather belt holsters so that helps with eliminating pocket scratches. I'd like to hear from people who actually have put a screen protector on thier note 2.
Unfortunately I can't comment on using the S-Pen with a screen protector, but I will link you to this video about screen protector installation that will reduce the likelihood of having bubbles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMPqDwVZzzM
Seems legit lol.
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I have the invisible shield on mine and have had no problems at all
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Unfortunately I can't comment on using the S-Pen with a screen protector, but I will link you to this video about screen protector installation that will reduce the likelihood of having bubbles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMPqDwVZzzM
Seems legit lol.
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Pretty good method. The issue I would always end up with is no matter how many times i wipe the screen there ends up being one tiny spec of dust that land on the screen and cause a bubble and once that happens you basically screw because the dust never wants to come off the protecotor. You can see in his video that the same thing happened to him and he was able to get it off with tape. I have some confidence in gorilla glass after going over a year with my g2x and still no screen scratches but plenty of drops.
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Pretty good method. The issue I would always end up with is no matter how many times i wipe the screen there ends up being one tiny spec of dust that land on the screen and cause a bubble and once that happens you basically screw because the dust never wants to come off the protecotor. You can see in his video that the same thing happened to him and he was able to get it off with tape. I have some confidence in gorilla glass after going over a year with my g2x and still no screen scratches but plenty of drops.
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go to your bathroom let the hot water run for few minutes so it collects all the dust in the air, then apply it there and hopefully you will have no dust
I use a screen protector, and also had one on my Note 1 and have no problems with the S pen functionality or sensitivity.
I had a 1 week period with no protector on the Note 2 as the shops didn't have any in yet, and noticed no difference between it being on or off.
I use the Focus Crystal Clear. It is very thin and clear. They have matt, anti glare ones, but they make the screen look dull.
http://www.dplushk.com/ultra-crystal-clear.htm
I got the shop to put it on for me. They did an excellent job. They used tape to clear the screen of dust, and also used tape to handle the protector whilst lining it up to apply it. That allowed them to lift it back up again if the alignment was slightly off without getting finger prints on the screen.
No problems here with sgp ultra clear
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That thread is a myth. The manual is referring to the proximity sensor on top of the phone, not the digitizer sensor. That thread is totally misinterpretation and misinformation.
No problems here with Spigen ultra sceeen protector.
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Since im own note 1 until note 2, i never have any problem with my s pen when using screen protector..honestly no problem from experience
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I agree with Spigen Ultra Crystal - works great, no issues so far.
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I agree with Spigen Ultra Crystal - works great, no issues so far.
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Ditto, works great, invisible unless you look for the edges and no affect on screen functions or S-Pen.
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I don't use protector now as the glass is really strong in ant-iscratching I think.
I got 1 dollar screen protector, and today I put ZAGG one on, and everything works.
Had some trouble with Zagg due to dust, but I think it turned out great, I taped my self 13 minutes long, I'll put it on youtube.
I like bestskinsever more, but they don't have it yet
I just uploaded the movie.. did not cut it, so it 13 minuts long from start to finish.
http://youtu.be/kdypJmELtV4
Another vote for Spigen Ultra Crystal screen protector....:good:
Waiting for my Spigen Ultra Crystal to come in!
TWO515TY said:
Unfortunately I can't comment on using the S-Pen with a screen protector, but I will link you to this video about screen protector installation that will reduce the likelihood of having bubbles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMPqDwVZzzM
Seems legit lol.
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Hell Guardian said:
go to your bathroom let the hot water run for few minutes so it collects all the dust in the air, then apply it there and hopefully you will have no dust
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I Just want to take the time to thank both of you. I Ordered a Spigen Ultra Crystal screen protector and used both of these methods combined and ended up with a perfect install on my first try. I just got my Note 2 in the mail today and left the original screen protector on it. Did the hinge method with painters tape, took a shower then took off the original screen protector and applied the Spigen Ultra Crystal screen protector. Came out great! O yeah I also wore a pair of rubber gloves just to be even more safe since I've had so many bad experiences applying screen protectors. I will comment back on S-Pen usage with the protector once I've actually used the phone lol i was just so excited about applying the protector perfectly that I had to come and thank you guys first!
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I don't use protector now as the glass is really strong in ant-iscratching I think.
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Is it the same glass as from the Galaxy S3?
I not used a protector on the S3 and till so far no problems. The glass is still beautifull
+1 for Spigen!
I purchased the Spigen SGP [Ultra Oleophobic] and it installed and works perfectly.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009F260IA/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00
The first day I was a little worried the material was too "grippy" but oils from fingers/face has it working perfectly.
Oh and an additional installation trick is to take super fine grit sandpaper to your fingers tips (ha, not to get rid of fingerprints!!) to exfoliate dead skin cells that usually make up the tiny particles that contaminate the film or screen, especially around the edges where you can't help but make contact with the underside of the film. After using the sandpaper wash with a soap that does not have a lotion in it (like some dish soaps and Dove etc). I personally use denatured alcohol to remove all the oil from my fingers so touching the screen or film inadvertently will not leave any marks. It's only a few extra minutes of prep but gives you a flawless installation every time.