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Im already on ATT straight talk but i tried to order another sim cause I talked someone else into it....There is no ATT compatible sim buy option anymore. Anyone know whats the scoop? They need to have the ATT sim version for their N4...
The unlocked gsm would probably be for at&t. It may have something to do with it being illegal to unlock carrier locked phones now. That's just a shot in the dark though.
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The unlocked gsm would probably be for at&t. It may have something to do with it being illegal to unlock carrier locked phones now. That's just a shot in the dark though.
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Thats is a plausible theory. But it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Someone with a phone locked and has just finished their 2 year agreement with AT&T is now unable to use straight talk service. Their could be numerous reasons why ST is no longer selling AT&T sim cards. It could be because they dont want to or something as simple as they are all out, who knows. Hopefully some news will come to light. The biggest question that comes to mind for me is what is going to happen to those of us who are using AT&T on ST? T-mobile is terrible where I live, i only get edge service and the coverage is even worse. AT&T is the way to go in Vermont.
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Thats is a plausible theory. But it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Someone with a phone locked and has just finished their 2 year agreement with AT&T is now unable to use straight talk service. Their could be numerous reasons why ST is no longer selling AT&T sim cards. It could be because they dont want to or something as simple as they are all out, who knows. Hopefully some news will come to light. The biggest question that comes to mind for me is what is going to happen to those of us who are using AT&T on ST? T-mobile is terrible where I live, i only get edge service and the coverage is even worse. AT&T is the way to go in Vermont.
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Exactly man. Right there with you.
It is most probably that tmobile now offers compatibility with 1900, give mvno better bang for the buck, and most importantly offer "unlimited" data without hidden random throttling like ATT does.. Thus coinciding with their offerings..
I think it's simple. AT&T probably got too expensive for them.
well thats unfortunate. It makes me nervous because im using ATT on straight talk so whats stopping ST from canceling my service!
I doubt they'll cancel their current AT&T customers (yet) - they'd lose too many of them. Over the next year or so they'll probably slowly force people to switch or leave, though. Who knows.
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I don't think that frequency band uses ATT HSPA network.
doesn't the unlocked gsm also say global phone?
that would be AT&T, T-mobile hasn't re-farmed 1900 everywhere yet so it should be the same as the at&t option and less confusion for most consumers that have no clue
From a little Google in what I found makes me think unlocked gsm encompasses both. At&t is 850/1900mhz and Tmob is 1700/2100mhz. Unlocked gsm is 850/1700.
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Not looking good at Walmart.Com either...
Both the micro-sim and micro-sim/1mo plan combo are out of stock
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Straight-Talk-Post-Paid-Micro-SIM-AT-T-Bring-Your-Own-Phone-Card/21550826
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Straight-...icro-SIM-w-45-AirTime-Card-5-Savings/21923981
I wonder if it has something to do with their plan to offer the iPhone prepaid: http://www.phonenews.com/straightta...long-with-4-walmart-to-offer-financing-22129/
That does seem odd that it is gone. I'm glad I have the AT&T sim now. T-Mobile is much faster, but I get better coverage with AT&T. Hopefully this is just a tempoary thing. I'm not sure if there is anyone else that is a MNVO for AT&T. Most I've seen are tmo only.
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That does seem odd that it is gone. I'm glad I have the AT&T sim now. T-Mobile is much faster, but I get better coverage with AT&T. Hopefully this is just a tempoary thing. I'm not sure if there is anyone else that is a MNVO for AT&T. Most I've seen are tmo only.
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Net10 uses att and the same apns as straight talk att. Pretty funny and from what I heard they don't throttle. Idk someone please clarify. But upon searching for a replacement just in case straight talk and att doesn't work our anymore I will be jumping ship.
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Net10 uses att and the same apns as straight talk att. Pretty funny and from what I heard they don't throttle. Idk someone please clarify. But upon searching for a replacement just in case straight talk and att doesn't work our anymore I will be jumping ship.
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Straight Talk and Net10 are both owned by the same company.
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well thats unfortunate. It makes me nervous because im using ATT on straight talk so whats stopping ST from canceling my service!
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I doubt they'll cancel their current AT&T customers (yet) - they'd lose too many of them. Over the next year or so they'll probably slowly force people to switch or leave, though. Who knows.
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They have sudden data throttling to take care of that problem..
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I am willing to bet the gsm unlocked sim will yield a tmo sim now instead of att.
A tmo sim would now offer more compatability with most gsm phones.
Unlocked gsm sim only guaranteed voice and text, you got Edge for data, no 3G+ data compatibility.
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I am willing to bet the gsm unlocked sim will yield a tmo sim now instead of att.
A tmo sim would now offer more compatability with most gsm phones.
Unlocked gsm sim only guaranteed voice and text, you got Edge for data, no 3G+ data compatibility.
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Yeah, if you go through the buying process, where you actually choose the Sim, the only option is T-Mo.
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I just called straight talk. They said they they are just out of stock on the att cards. He assured me they will be in stock 'within a couple of weeks'. We'll see. My VZW contract is up in march so I won't be switching for a while and can wait, but was disappointed when I jumped on the nexus 4 today and then couldn't get a sim. Worst case I'll get the t-mobile one and cut it and if I don't like the service jump to another pre-paid that uses att.
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I just called straight talk. They said they they are just out of stock on the att cards. He assured me they will be in stock 'within a couple of weeks'. We'll see. My VZW contract is up in march so I won't be switching for a while and can wait, but was disappointed when I jumped on the nexus 4 today and then couldn't get a sim. Worst case I'll get the t-mobile one and cut it and if I don't like the service jump to another pre-paid that uses att.
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If your going T-Mo in the meantime just get the $30 plan direct from T-Mobile then switch to the ST AT&T when you drop Verizon. I don't believe the T-Mo plan on ST even has micro sim cards, you have to cut one of the standard ones down. With the T-mobile $30 plan you can order the micro sim activation kit directly from their website. I tired T-Mo out first and the reception sucked so I switched to ST AT&T two weeks later and then dropped Verizon once I saw I had good reception.
Ok guys so i just attended an HTC ONE Event here in Phoenix, AZ. and they gave me a silver HTC ONE. Fisrt off let me tell you this phone is a gorgeous beast of a phone, the camera, the display. Anyway if you have questions ask and i will be more than happy to share info pics all that fun stuff.
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Ok guys so i just attended an HTC ONE Event here in Phoenix, AZ. and they gave me a silver HTC ONE. Fisrt off let me tell you this phone is a gorgeous beast of a phone, the camera, the display. Anyway if you have questions ask and i will be more than happy to share info pics all that fun stuff.
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Can you tell me (or better yet show me) what the Sprint HTC One compares to lets say a Sprint GS3 or other Sprint LTE device with regards to LTE reception. Really what I would like to see is the RSRP (dBm) values of each device sitting side by side. I myself have an HTC EVO LTE and love the (almost) all metal construction that HTC did with the phone. The one thing I do not like however, is the LTE performance. 3G is great and on par with other devices, but I want to make sure HTC fixed this in the HTC one before I buy it.
Thanks in advance!
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Can you tell me (or better yet show me) what the Sprint HTC One compares to lets say a Sprint GS3 or other Sprint LTE device with regards to LTE reception. Really what I would like to see is the RSRP (dBm) values of each device sitting side by side. I myself have an HTC EVO LTE and love the (almost) all metal construction that HTC did with the phone. The one thing I do not like however, is the LTE performance. 3G is great and on par with other devices, but I want to make sure HTC fixed this in the HTC one before I buy it.
Thanks in advance!
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I would if we had LTE in Phoenix AZ
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I would if we had LTE in Phoenix AZ
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Or 4g, lol, apparently Globe has had for a while now. Currently still planning on sticking with Sprint for now for some reason. Phoenix / Scottsdale here too :beer:
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I would if we had LTE in Phoenix AZ
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That sucks, what about 3G?
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You got a Sprint One? Or a global version?
How long have you had it? Is it long enough to make any judgement on battery life?
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You got a Sprint One? Or a global version?
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Yes a Sprint HTC ONE
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How long have you had it? Is it long enough to make any judgement on battery life?
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So far its been a day that I've had it. Today i have been using it non stop facebook, instagram, texting, twitter and about 20 minutes of games on full brightness and its gone down 20% in 3 hours
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Congrats on that. What all comes in the retail packaging?
Oh and the dual front speakers.. Let me just say about damn time. It also has a cool karaoke option in the music player
Also something interesting beats isn't just a DSP anymore it actually has a beats audio processor and mini amp
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Congrats on that. What all comes in the retail packaging?
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Wow, they actually put earbuds in with this phone. I haven't gotten a pair of earbuds with a new phone from Sprint since my Touch Pro (Maybe the Touch Pro2).
I was actually wondering how it works with roaming. Is it possible you can force it to roam for a moment? Or is that a root only function (been on a rooted phone too long). I don't expect LTE to roam, but I also don't recall seeing any info about a 2g/1x radio onboard. There's a little get-away I go to often in the summer that has no Sprint coverage and hoping I'm not bringing a paperweight every time I go.
Is the phone unlocked? It has a slot for a microsim, correct?
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Is the phone unlocked? It has a slot for a microsim, correct?
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Maybe as a follow up to this question, we believe it has a MicroSIM slot (please let us know if it does not). Have you attempted to use an AT&T micro SIM in it as well? An international microSIM such as 3, Vodafone, etc?
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I was actually wondering how it works with roaming. Is it possible you can force it to roam for a moment? Or is that a root only function (been on a rooted phone too long). I don't expect LTE to roam, but I also don't recall seeing any info about a 2g/1x radio onboard. There's a little get-away I go to often in the summer that has no Sprint coverage and hoping I'm not bringing a paperweight every time I go.
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Maybe as a follow up to this question, we believe it has a MicroSIM slot (please let us know if it does not). Have you attempted to use an AT&T micro SIM in it as well? An international microSIM such as 3, Vodafone, etc?
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And yes it is the only sprint phone with replaceable micro sim. But it is carrier locked. Att, ST, and tmo sim = no go. I am a sprint rep and not even my point of contacts new anything yet about unlocking
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And yes it is the only sprint phone with replaceable micro sim. But it is carrier locked. Att, ST, and tmo sim = no go. I am a sprint rep and not even my point of contacts new anything yet about unlocking
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I'm sure it won't be far from now when it gets a carrier unlock. I know it's probably that way because of the law, but when they pass the new bill, it'll be allowed.
Although no force roaming, do you know if it's 3g roaming, 1x roaming, or neither?
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Can you try the following dialer codes to see if they work?
##DEBUG# (##33284#)
##DATA# (##3282#)
*#*#INFO#*#* (*#*#4636#*#*)
If DEBUG works, can you see if there is an “LTE Engineering” menu to view the RSRP/RSRQ values? These values are also in the “Phone information” menu if the INFO code works.
If the INFO code does not work, would you mind downloading the following app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.mangelow.network
Basically, it’s a shortcut to the “Phone information” menu that you would find through INFO, but if they killed the dialer code, this might be the only way to access it (assuming the menu itself is still there).
I’m sorry, I know this is kind of a lot, but a lot of people are going to be eager to find out if they can use this phone for field testing to see if it’s a better RF performer than the EVO LTE. Thanks in advance!
Adrian, can you enlighten us as to the storage space? Under Settings/Storage. Some of us are wanting to know how much User Accessible space is available to store music, movies, photos, etc.
Not sure if this should go here or not.. But I've been watching the One since it was announced.
And I'm currently on the old $30/month plan from Tmo with an HTC Amaze..
Unfortunately I to get the one from Tmo the require $379 down which is a lot of money at once and will also up my bill to $70
But I also have the option to get one someones Sprint plan and get a One for $99...
But just looking thought the forum, its looking like the GSM One is getting better Dev support
Along with Google ports.
An another possible problem that comes to mind... is CDMA..
I was on sprint awhile ago and Had a HTC Hero and the battery drain was HORRIBLE compared to the my Magic. Not sure if that is still an issue with the new LTE stuff...
But yeah, my real question is, should I go for the Sprint One or hold out a bit and get the Tmo One?
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Not sure if this should go here or not.. But I've been watching the One since it was announced.
And I'm currently on the old $30/month plan from Tmo with an HTC Amaze..
Unfortunately I to get the one from Tmo the require $379 down which is a lot of money at once and will also up my bill to $70
But I also have the option to get one someones Sprint plan and get a One for $99...
But just looking thought the forum, its looking like the GSM One is getting better Dev support
Along with Google ports.
An another possible problem that comes to mind... is CDMA..
I was on sprint awhile ago and Had a HTC Hero and the battery drain was HORRIBLE compared to the my Magic. Not sure if that is still an issue with the new LTE stuff...
But yeah, my real question is, should I go for the Sprint One or hold out a bit and get the Tmo One?
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To my knowledge, you're not going to have a significant battery difference between CDMA and GSM. Updates will almost always be slower for us in the Sprint world because GSM variants tend to be more common worldwide, but the devs here work plenty hard. I'd check the forum though yourself to see if there're any ROMs you actually like the look of instead of taking someone else's word on how "good" dev is.
Price-wise, you might be better off going prepaid on T-Mobile, but then you'd need an unlocked GSM One, and that's dicey stuff.
Tmo is the way to go imho. I thought about getting the one when I got my nexus....it's about the only phone I'd consider other than my nexus. I chose the nexus because of the bang for your buck factor and dev support. I'm happy with my choice but I still love the one! Really a beautiful phone, with the guts to match....good luck
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Get tmo. Gsm gets a lot more love
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Yeah, go Tmo. Once you go CDMA, you shall never escape...
T mobile if you can afford it.
You can fully convert it to GPe or dev unlocked edition. It gets more support.
I read somewhere that only Sprint has working Google Wallet, though.
Coverage wise, it depends. Tmo is fantastic here (at least, the HSPA was), but Sprint doesn't even cover some of the places it says has "Good/better 3g".
As someone above said, you should check out the prepaid plans. It might be cheaper/better in the long run if you buy unlocked and just put in a prepaid card. Even if you will go over the data/minutes, the overages may still be cheaper than a contract.
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans Check out the $30 one at the bottom. Only 100 mins, but 5GB data.
Using my sprint one on T-Mobile lte
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Using my sprint one on T-Mobile lte
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What PRL are you using to get that?
Thanks
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Using my sprint one on T-Mobile lte
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Get tmo. Gsm gets a lot more love
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Yep. I think we'd all have T-Mobile over Sprint if we had our choice. But we all have reasons... It's cheaper to stay on Sprint, etc...
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Yep. I think we'd all have T-Mobile over Sprint if we had our choice. But we all have reasons... It's cheaper to stay on Sprint, etc...
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Personally I'm staying on Sprint because they are making moves to make a triband network, as opposed to tmo which is a single band network. But at the moment Sprint is just terrible.
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I got mine 2 weeks ago from tmo and they only ask me to pay $100 down and $70 monthly
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I got mine 2 weeks ago from tmo and they only ask me to pay $100 down and $70 monthly
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Tmo base everything off of your credit check when they run it. For example, my cousin was told he he had to put down $500 and I was told $100.
However I chooses to come back to Sprint because I think they have good things coming ahead and plus Tmo service here where I live is little to nonexistent
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I'm on the $30 plan right now. But to finance a phone for me its 3xx down and sixty something a month.
And those 100 minutes burn up FAST.
In the long run sprint is actually going to be cheaper because I'm getting on an existing plan for 20-30 a month for unlimited everything.
But I'm still not sure I want to go CDMA...
I live in Columbus so coverage for both sprint and tmo is great..
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I am currently with AT&T using the Note 2. I pre-ordered the unlocked T-Mobile version at Negrielectronics because of the previously inabilitity to root the AT&T Note 3.
However, now that the AT&T Note 3 version is rootable, is it still a good idea to buy the T-Mobile version and use it on AT&T network for LTE ?
I am buying a phone off contract an at a full price. I don't want to be in any contract.
I still have time to cancel the Negrielectronics pre-order. What should be your advice? Thanks.
The dilemma is which is better: AT&T Note 3 (rootable) or Unlocked T-Mobile Note 3? ....using AT&T network.
Price is not a factor.
I'd go with with the AT&T version because their devices have priority on the network, and tmo may do the same but I don't know much about tmo. Yes people will get mad when they see that if they bought a tmo device and argue with you. Others will go with tmo just because of the unlocked bootloader. I'm pretty sure somebody will figure it out on AT&T soon enough. If they don't then that's the downside of buying an AT&T device. Bottom line is if you rely on your phone for day to day communications I personally would recommend an AT&T device because of the support they will give you. If you think your good enough to support it all on your own grab a tmo device. I probably would have done that if I had a second chance. I'm not going through the hassle of returning this one though.
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I'd go with with the AT&T version because their devices have priority on the network. Others will go with tmo just because of the unlocked bootloader. I'm pretty sure somebody will figure it out on AT&T soon enough.
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I keep seeing this statement in places, but it doesn't seem like it would be legal or even worth it to do this. You pay AT&T for service, and their profit comes from the service, not the hardware. Why would they even bother to prioritize traffic based on IMEI? The average consumer wouldn't even notice. It would only noticeably impact an extremely small segment of their user base, and the extra infrastructure to punish 0.05% of their user base seems ridiculous. If there's hard proof of this practice, I'd love to see it.
If you call them and talk to a tier 3 tech they will tell you. That's how I found out.
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I'd go with with the AT&T version because their devices have priority on the network. Others will go with tmo just because of the unlocked bootloader. I'm pretty sure somebody will figure it out on AT&T soon enough.
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Well I disagree. Having been an ATT customer forever they are slow to release updates and upgrades to the OS. The big thing is the Unlocked Bootloader. Thats what makes the TMO unit much better. You can us International ROM's and the developers are supporting the Int and the TMO unit, my ATT SG4 had very limited support do to working around the Locked Bootloader. With the history of the ATT SG4 being locked and the developers that were not happy I would not get the ATT if I were paying full price. I could take the upgrade at ATT and I still choose to go TMO because I love to flash.
I had the att s4 and there was a ton of support even with the MF3 build. They had safe strap. I was on MDL so I didn't need it but I helped iB4STiD a ton with helping folks on that.
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If you call them and talk to a tier 3 tech they will tell you. That's how I found out.
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Techs are often wrong and/or totally full of it in the name of getting the customer off the phone. I don't really consider this to be a reliable source. I'm also certain that if this was an official policy, it would need to be in writing somewhere. I've been through all of the terms I can find and haven't found any mention of discrimination against phones from other networks. It still doesn't make sense anyways. They should be happy for the service business, since that's where they make all their money anyways.
It's not discriminating really, its AT&T taking care of thier own before anything else. I'm sure it's an internal document so you won't see it. I'm not the only one on the forum that's mentioned that before (you can use the search function on the forums and google) and usually tier 3 knows their crap. They are very experienced techs.
Also it's not illegal to unlock your bootloader or do anything to your phone other than SIM unlock it without carrier permission.
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If you look over in the general forum you'll see a post called something like "att may have got the last laugh". You can see exactly what I mean about a tmo device there and they also talk about tmo devices are not prioritized like att devices.
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It's not discriminating really, its AT&T taking care of thier own before anything else. I'm sure it's an internal document so you won't see it. I'm not the only one on the forum that's mentioned that before (you can use the search function on the forums and google) and usually tier 3 knows their crap. They are very experienced techs.
Also it's not illegal to unlock your bootloader or do anything to your phone other than SIM unlock it without carrier permission.
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I've seen it mentioned before, but as with most forums, 5% of the posters are knowledgeable, 75% are parroting something they read someplace else, and the other 20% are just trolls. It would be great to have some actual proof that this occurs. I have two Note 3s, one from AT&T and one from T-Mobile, and if I use the same sim card, the speedtests are basically the same. They're definitely both inside the typical range for my home, though I realize this is anecdotal.
It would be discrimination if I signed up for service for AT&T and brought my own phone and they failed to disclose to me that I would be getting slower service due to bringing my own hardware. I'm guessing it probably wouldn't be legal, either. At the least, it's incredibly unethical. AT&T makes the money off the service, not the phones, so their interest in taking care of their own includes every subscriber regardless of hardware. Do you think they de-prioritize iPad traffic if you didn't buy your iPad in their store? Incredibly unlikely.
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So are you saying that the LTE speed using an unlocked T-mobile phone is slower than if I use the at&t Note 3?
I never once said anything about slower speed. I'm assuming the guy a couple post up doesn't know about network prioritization. You can even do this on some home routers.
When the network is congested it will favor ATT devices over others. It will favor an ATT iPad over others. It doesn't matter where you buy it as long as it's an ATT variant of the device.
Also I'm not sure if that one guy is implying I'm trolling or not but if he is then I assume he finds his answer elsewhere. I donate way to much time and money to this place to be considered a troller, not to mention I have a degree in cyber defense. If not please disregard this message.
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Earthdog I read your profile. You should be very familiar with what I'm talking about.
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Can you still install a custom ROM only with root?
No you need to have the bootloader unlocked.
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Well I disagree. Having been an ATT customer forever they are slow to release updates and upgrades to the OS. The big thing is the Unlocked Bootloader. Thats what makes the TMO unit much better. You can us International ROM's and the developers are supporting the Int and the TMO unit, my ATT SG4 had very limited support do to working around the Locked Bootloader. With the history of the ATT SG4 being locked and the developers that were not happy I would not get the ATT if I were paying full price. I could take the upgrade at ATT and I still choose to go TMO because I love to flash.
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Your 100% right about the bootloader and software releases. I don't mind running stock so much because it serves my purpose just fine.
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I never once said anything about slower speed. I'm assuming the guy a couple post up doesn't know about network prioritization. You can even do this on some home routers.
When the network is congested it will favor ATT devices over others. It will favor an ATT iPad over others. It doesn't matter where you buy it as long as it's an ATT variant of the device.
Also I'm not sure if that one guy is implying I'm trolling or not but if he is then I assume he finds his answer elsewhere. I donate way to much time and money to this place to be considered a troller, not to mention I have a degree in cyber defense. If not please disregard this message.
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Earthbrain I read your profile. You should be very familiar with what I'm talking about.
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Just yesterday, things were simplier because there was no root cabability for the AT&T Note 3 and I was happy to just pre-order the unlocked note 3 t-mobile version from Negri. Now things just got more complex in my buying decision because of the rootable at&t note 3.
I definitely meant no disrespect or implication of trolling. :good:
I'm an engineer by trade, so you'll have to forgive my need to have logic applied to things. I'm familiar with traffic prioritization, and use it on my home network. I'm simply stating that it doesn't make sense for AT&T to do this, as the incentive is to provide more services, not sell more devices.
When you buy a unlock phone you have to consider the radio issues you will suffer.. you might have to change your modem version to a AT&T version to get better service (idk if thats possible like it was on the note 2). Yes the hardware might support different network bands but it doesn't mean if you put a T-Mobile unlock version using a AT&T sim next a AT&T version that it will work the same.
And i disagree that T-Mobile version will get more support than the AT&T version..
GoldfishTX said:
I definitely meant no disrespect or implication of trolling. :good:
I'm an engineer by trade, so you'll have to forgive my need to have logic applied to things. I'm familiar with traffic prioritization, and use it on my home network. I'm simply stating that it doesn't make sense for AT&T to do this, as the incentive is to provide more services, not sell more devices.
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I TOTALLY agree with you and think it's crap and I would hope it's not true. Just after having that tech tell me something I've been reading for a while sort of confirmed my fear about that.
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It would be nice to conduct some tests during peak/congested times, using busy cell sites (high-rise buildings, freeways, etc.), and multiple locations. I'd be curious of the results.
well thats not fair, i want sprint sparks (Sprint LTE on steroids) for my S4.... already devising plans to break my phone to get a replacement with sparks included in the antenna. i guess you can tell by the SKU of the phone
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-6452_7-57615156/sprint-lights-up-samsung-galaxy-s4-with-spark/
Lol you're late
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Don't be mean. Lol.
But yes most of us know of this already. The phone has been available since late December.
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It's called the 720T.
gonczarkid22 said:
well thats not fair, i want sprint sparks (Sprint LTE on steroids) for my S4.... already devising plans to break my phone to get a replacement with sparks included in the antenna. i guess you can tell by the SKU of the phone
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-6452_7-57615156/sprint-lights-up-samsung-galaxy-s4-with-spark/
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So, don't break your phone, you'll get a replacement mono-band S4, not the Tri-band.
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Don't be mean. Lol.
But yes most of us know of this already. The phone has been available since late December.
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Also, I know they announced it a while back, but has anyone actually seen one in the wild? There was no release and they are not listed anywhere to buy. The website still has the mono-band S4. If you have a link to one for sale from Sprint, please post it.
i work for sprint, so i feel like eventually the warehouse will run out of mono-band and start using the tri-band s4 as replacements. ive known the S4's were switched to the tri-band since it was announced, i just wanted to let everyone know (who didnt already) that us existing S4's are getting screwed over!
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So, don't break your phone, you'll get a replacement mono-band S4, not the Tri-band.
Also, I know they announced it a while back, but has anyone actually seen one in the wild? There was no release and they are not listed anywhere to buy. The website still has the mono-band S4. If you have a link to one for sale from Sprint, please post it.
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mmark27 said:
So, don't break your phone, you'll get a replacement mono-band S4, not the Tri-band.
Also, I know they announced it a while back, but has anyone actually seen one in the wild? There was no release and they are not listed anywhere to buy. The website still has the mono-band S4. If you have a link to one for sale from Sprint, please post it.
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Sprints website has it. If you look it says that they are spark compatible. They have been selling them there since December and there are already a handful of members that have them here. My sister has one.
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Sprints website has it. If you look it says that they are spark compatible. They have been selling them there since December and there are already a handful of members that have them here. My sister has one.
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Well, isn't that nice. Their website must do regional things or something because I don't see Spark capable listed on the phone page online. Eitherway, that's great to hear!
EDIT, yeah nevermind, see it now. Must have been living under a rock. Sorry guys.
The S5 is right around the corner you know. Wonder if that will have the spark bands?
More than likely yes. Here's hoping Sprint actually FINISHES the LTE rollout for all bands instead of doing the half-assed job they did with WiMAX.
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More than likely yes. Here's hoping Sprint actually FINISHES the LTE rollout for all bands instead of doing the half-assed job they did with WiMAX.
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we just got LTE in PHX and its really nice. We never got WIMAX here. So just be a little patient. :|
Just so you know, when they added the Triband to the S4, it broke simultaneous data and voice on LTE. So if you someone that needs that, don't get to excited about this new variant. Also, no wifi and simultaneous voice has been reported.
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cruise350 said:
Just so you know, when they added the Triband to the S4, it broke simultaneous data and voice on LTE. So if you someone that needs that, don't get to excited about this new variant. Also, no wifi and simultaneous voice has been reported.
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I just got this p. O. S. Is there any hope of fixing simultaneous voice and data yet ? Maybe rooting with another rom? I MISS MY S3!
Also they told me it was to new to root?? Sparks with 4.3. Help...
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I think I have one, but I'm not sure.
When Sprint came out with 4.4.2.Kit Kat two days ago, everybody was posting that you needed MK2 software to get the download.
When I checked, my software is L720TVPUAMK5. My model shows as SPHL 720T, and on the box it's SPHL 720TWT.
When I asked about it, someone said I had a new Sparks.
I'm pretty much in the dark on all this.
Will I still get the Kit Kat download?
Does Austin, TX broadcast the new LTE?
Do I have something better? Or just a gimmick?
Is there anything important to know?
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I think I have one, but I'm not sure.
When Sprint came out with 4.4.2.Kit Kat two days ago, everybody was posting that you needed MK2 software to get the download.
When I checked, my software is L720TVPUAMK5. My model shows as SPHL 720T, and on the box it's SPHL 720TWT.
When I asked about it, someone said I had a new Sparks.
I'm pretty much in the dark on all this.
Will I still get the Kit Kat download?
Does Austin, TX broadcast the new LTE?
Do I have something better? Or just a gimmick?
Is there anything important to know?
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Accidental thanks. Anyways you will not get KitKat right now as this update is for the regular L720. There isndifferemt software for the T model. For example when we first noticed a MK5 software we regular phone people thought we would be able to use it but turns out we can't.
You will eventually get KitKat.
As far as Dallas having spark network, I don't know. I just know LA, San Fran, NYC, Chicago , and Miami were the first to start deployment.
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jnichols2 said:
I think I have one, but I'm not sure.
When Sprint came out with 4.4.2.Kit Kat two days ago, everybody was posting that you needed MK2 software to get the download.
When I checked, my software is L720TVPUAMK5. My model shows as SPHL 720T, and on the box it's SPHL 720TWT.
When I asked about it, someone said I had a new Sparks.
I'm pretty much in the dark on all this.
Will I still get the Kit Kat download?
Does Austin, TX broadcast the new LTE?
Do I have something better? Or just a gimmick?
Is there anything important to know?
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Go to this website. they have the latest information on the sprint network. look around they have a plethora of information.
http://s4gru.com/
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Accidental thanks. Anyways you will not get KitKat right now as this update is for the regular L720. There isndifferemt software for the T model. For example when we first noticed a MK5 software we regular phone people thought we would be able to use it but turns out we can't.
You will eventually get KitKat.
As far as Dallas having spark network, I don't know. I just know LA, San Fran, NYC, Chicago , and Miami were the first to start deployment.
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Thanks, you've helped me a lot. Some guys in another forum were pushing me to manually update to MK2, glad I didn't.
I can wait for Kit Kat, at least now I know why it isn't pushing to me.
I can also wait for the tri band rollout. I get 30 Meg download on my home network.
Thanks again.
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daniel4653 said:
Accidental thanks. Anyways you will not get KitKat right now as this update is for the regular L720. There isndifferemt software for the T model. For example when we first noticed a MK5 software we regular phone people thought we would be able to use it but turns out we can't.
You will eventually get KitKat.
As far as Dallas having spark network, I don't know. I just know LA, San Fran, NYC, Chicago , and Miami were the first to start deployment.
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chico1983 said:
Go to this website. they have the latest information on the sprint network. look around they have a plethora of information.
http://s4gru.com/
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Thanks, There's a lot of good info.
Until the network is really ready - and it will vary by market - be careful what you wish for with Spark. Its been alluded to already, but in many cases this can be a step backward.
http://www.geek.com/android/sprints...ed-service-for-the-forseeable-future-1577462/
So wait.... I just bought this thing two weeks ago from the sprint store, and my model number is the 720, not 720T. Did they seriously give me one of the old versions even though the new ones have been out since mid December?
Gabewithkungfugrip said:
So wait.... I just bought this thing two weeks ago from the sprint store, and my model number is the 720, not 720T. Did they seriously give me one of the old versions even though the new ones have been out since mid December?
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Yes. Because the stores have the regular ones still. And only online at sprint.com were you able to get the T model.
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