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Capacitive Button Responsiveness?

Recently, I've been considering getting a Nexus One, however, most of the reviews I read say that the N1's capacitive buttons are a little unresponsive. You must tap the upper half of the button as opposed to the bottom half of the button.
I've also read that some of the cyanogen roms have fixed this problem. Can anyone give me more insight on this issue?

I've never had a problem with mine.
I saw a review saying that they got in the way when typing w/ the onscreen keyboard, but I haven't even had that, and I'd like to think that I have pretty normal-sized fingers.

Some people have problems, others don't i personally haven't. I wouldn't consider it to be something important enough to sway me from a sale though.

Stock Rom had this issue. If you unlock your bootloader, all the kernels (and mods) available now have a fix for this, as well as a few other things.
Im sure when 2.2 update comes out this fix will be passed on to the stock version too (at least as far as im aware it hasnt already!?). So tbh this isnt an issue for you not to get a nexus one...also, there's no point getting a nexus one if ur too scared to unlock the bootloader!!

adam18488 said:
Stock Rom had this issue. If you unlock your bootloader, all the kernels (and mods) available now have a fix for this, as well as a few other things.
Im sure when 2.2 update comes out this fix will be passed on to the stock version too (at least as far as im aware it hasnt already!?). So tbh this isnt an issue for you not to get a nexus one...also, there's no point getting a nexus one if ur too scared to unlock the bootloader!!
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Definitely! That's one of the biggest reasons why I want an N1. It has a good root and dev community and gets android updates first.
I just thought it'd be annoying to have to use a phone with crappy capacitive buttons, but I'm glad to hear that the problem has been fixed.
The only other thing I'm worried about is the dualtouch but it's most definitely going to get fixed in the next update.
Thanks to everyone for their input. I'll definitely be picking up an N1 soon

I have rooted and custom roms etc and I still hate the capacitive buttons with a passion. They are not nearly enough to topple the overall awesome that is the N1 but man I hate those things.

I only hate those buttons, when Nex is in my car mount!

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Stock Rom had this issue. If you unlock your bootloader, all the kernels (and mods) available now have a fix for this, as well as a few other things.
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Is this true? I've tried plenty of ROMs and kernels and I don't remember any of them changing the button sensitivity.
The best way to show off how frustrating the buttons can be is to give the phone to someone that's never played with it before and watch as they struggle to register touches on the buttons. The people that use the phone daily have recognized that the touchpad is above the button and never think about it any more.
It's very apparent as soon as you rotate the phone into a different position though.

PrawnPoBoy said:
Is this true? I've tried plenty of ROMs and kernels and I don't remember any of them changing the button sensitivity.
The best way to show off how frustrating the buttons can be is to give the phone to someone that's never played with it before and watch as they struggle to register touches on the buttons. The people that use the phone daily have recognized that the touchpad is above the button and never think about it any more.
It's very apparent as soon as you rotate the phone into a different position though.
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I also haven't noticed any change in the sensitivity with different ROMs or kernels. For me though, sometimes if I hit right on top of the button it won't register. I am used to just tapping it a little above and it works everytime.
As others have said, this is definitely not a deal breaker for me or shouldn't be for any person IMO. This phone's pros far outweigh the cons.

The best way to show off how frustrating the buttons can be is to give the phone to someone that's never played with it before and watch as they struggle to register touches on the buttons. The people that use the phone daily have recognized that the touchpad is above the button and never think about it any more.
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When someone is doing that you should just say that it has Finger print authentication technology

absolutely true and this was my discovery today (day 4 with n1). the buttons work fine if you cheat towards the top of the button area and overlap into the screen area.
that solved it for me.
resolved for me for now...

xboomer55 said:
absolutely true and this was my discovery today (day 4 with n1). the buttons work fine if you cheat towards the top of the button area and overlap into the screen area.
that solved it for me.
resolved for me for now...
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Did you just buy your N1 from Google brand new?

Those buttons are a pain in the bum, but you get used to them, the bigger problem is if the phone gets too cold it starts mis-registering the touchscreen necessitating a reboot or a bunch of mucking around to fix it. This is the biggest annoyance with the phone for me, hopefully they fix the screen calibration in 2.2!
Almost swapped mine for a Desire, thinking less of doing so now, unless anyone can offer a good reason

I got my N1 straight from Google on day one, and I'm currently running CM 5.06
I find the capacitive buttons to be _awful_ if I tap directly on them it takes 2-5 attempts to get it to register.
However, I have found that if I swipe from the button down off the bottom of the button it registers ever single time.
I'm pretty convinced that the problem isn't the digitiser itself but in the driver that splits that section of the digitiser off. I believe it checks to see if there is upward movement before registering a button tap and if it does detect upward motion it cancels the tap event and forwards the event as a touch screen event. I also thing that because I have pretty big fingers any time I press the flattening of my finger registers as a slight upward motion.
If I could find the button "sub"-driver I'd be hacking at it right now.
Still, I wouldn't give up my N1.

SilentMobius said:
I got my N1 straight from Google on day one, and I'm currently running CM 5.06
I find the capacitive buttons to be _awful_ if I tap directly on them it takes 2-5 attempts to get it to register.
However, I have found that if I swipe from the button down off the bottom of the button it registers ever single time.
I'm pretty convinced that the problem isn't the digitiser itself but in the driver that splits that section of the digitiser off. I believe it checks to see if there is upward movement before registering a button tap and if it does detect upward motion it cancels the tap event and forwards the event as a touch screen event. I also thing that because I have pretty big fingers any time I press the flattening of my finger registers as a slight upward motion.
If I could find the button "sub"-driver I'd be hacking at it right now.
Still, I wouldn't give up my N1.
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Just realized that!!
It does not get the upward movement
It gets: right, left & down
So this means, one could set different options for different directions...

hacker01 said:
Recently, I've been considering getting a Nexus One, however, most of the reviews I read say that the N1's capacitive buttons are a little unresponsive. You must tap the upper half of the button as opposed to the bottom half of the button.
I've also read that some of the cyanogen roms have fixed this problem. Can anyone give me more insight on this issue?
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I have noticed no issues when holding the phone in my hands but the responsiveness is not that great if the phone is flat on a desk or a similar surface. I wonder what if anything the accelerometer may play a factor.

PrawnPoBoy said:
Is this true? I've tried plenty of ROMs and kernels and I don't remember any of them changing the button sensitivity.
The best way to show off how frustrating the buttons can be is to give the phone to someone that's never played with it before and watch as they struggle to register touches on the buttons. The people that use the phone daily have recognized that the touchpad is above the button and never think about it any more.
It's very apparent as soon as you rotate the phone into a different position though.
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I dunna man, my 3-year-old daughter figured it out within a minute of getting my phone. I set her up in a game and she decided she wanted something else, so she messed with the capacitive buttons until she got out of the game. Once she had it once or twice (~5-10 seconds for her to figure out each time) it was pretty much instant after that. If a 3-yo can figure it out, I'm pretty sure it's not THAT difficult. Annoying, sure....but not difficult.

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Did you just buy your N1 from Google brand new?
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Yes. Direct from Google.

Wow there's definitely a good mix of answers. I thought that the newer batches of N1's fixed the capacitive button problem, but apparently not.
I guess there's not a definite answer. It seems the only conclusion you can make is that some N1's may still have the problem, some may not. Some can be fixed with custom roms and unlocking the bootloader and some cannot. Your results may very.
EDIT: After rereading some of the previous posts (more carefully. excuse my sleep deprived state lol), the capacitive button issue might actually be more of a feature than an issue. I've read similar posts about the capacitive buttons having that sort of "motion detection" thing to prevent accident presses. Hopefully for anyone still having the problem, you can reread some of the posts on this page and give their methods a try

I haven't had a problem with mine but I haven't had the problems most people say they have with the phone so I would recommend this phone to anyone that wants an android phone
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does your nexus have any of these problems?

hey guys, I'm about to trade my htc desire for a nexus one and have read up on a few problems, and I wanted to find out first hand from you guys wether they're actually problems, or wether they are a load.
Which leads me to my questions.
Does your nexus one have any of the following problems:
1. trackball gets stuck sometimes
2. the on/off/standby switch has stopped working (or you have had to send it back to be repaired)
3. the touchscreen randomly stops working
4. 3G connectivity issue
5. Wifi problems
6. Proximity sensor sensitivity issue
7. earpiece: insufficient volume
and lastly -
Is there any reason why you would not recommend me selling my desire and buying a nexus?
Thanks,
Brandon

It would be easier to have them numbered
1. Trackball - never heard of it.
2. Power button - never had anything on mine, but there's a good reason to believe there was a faulty batch out there - some had to exchange theirs.
3. Touchscreen - The issue is that it starts "missing" the presses, registering way below. Pressing the power button twice (entering and exiting standby) "cures" it. A real issue, happens very rarely.
4. 3G - opinions are split on it, reported only by vocal minority and only in areas barely covered by 3G, and only long time ago. Personally, never saw anything that could be considered as "issue". Actually, rather good reception and good data rates over bad connections.
5. WiFi - again, depends on what "issue" is. It's not completely flawless, for example, fails connecting to encrypted network w/ Cisco 521G. Haven't had any problems on mine, though.
6. Proximity sensor - never heard of it.
7. Volume - never heard of it.
To the last question - why would you want to do that? You have a device with very similar specs that runs very similar firmware. Froyo is already out for Desire, AFAIK, and that exchange would only bring you the trackball notifications and the future updates (Gingerbread). Is that the reason for you to switch?
P.S. All or almost all of the issues listed above would be similar for both phones, since they're almost identical.

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To the last question - why would you want to do that? You have a device with very similar specs that runs very similar firmware. Froyo is already out for Desire, AFAIK, and that exchange would only bring you the trackball notifications and the future updates (Gingerbread). Is that the reason for you to switch?
P.S. All or almost all of the issues listed above would be similar for both phones, since they're almost identical.
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Thanks for the reply!
The problem is that the there are only about 4 chefs cooking for the desire (and about 5 others uploading their own version of the 4 roms). And the battery life on the new froyo ROMs are terrible. I used up the whole battery in about 6 hours with 3g not enabled, and brightness at the minimum.
and there seems to be much more support for the nexus. (XDA support that is)
+ there are much more cases available for the nexus, I think it looks better, and I really love the idea of the trackball and how it can change colors
P.S I forgot to ask how are the capacative buttens?
Some have said they don't exactly work (you have to press them a few times before it works)
I remember reading somewhere that you have to press them a bit above the buttons and they work fine. Is this true? or are some devices just randomly screwed?
Thanks,
Brandon

No to all.
Atleast I didn't notice

Any reason not to just keep the Desire? The n1 is great but the Desire is nearly identically and slightly better in some ways.

brandon1108 said:
hey guys, I'm about to trade my htc desire for a nexus one and have read up on a few problems, and I wanted to find out first hand from you guys wether they're actually problems, or wether they are a load.
Which leads me to my questions.
Does your nexus one have any of the following problems:
1. trackball gets stuck sometimes- Never had this problem......
2. the on/off/standby switch has stopped working (or you have had to send it back to be repaired)- Um, not for me.... But I have heard this happening to people.
3. the touchscreen randomly stops working - NEVER ever has this happened
4. 3G connectivity issue - I only use wifi since it's everywhere. More efficiant and faster!
5. Wifi problems - None for me.
6. Proximity sensor sensitivity issue - Nope
7. earpiece: insufficient volume - Nope, I find it too loud sometimes. But, I do have sensative hearing.
and lastly -
Is there any reason why you would not recommend me selling my desire and buying a nexus? No reasons honestly. They are both pretty similar except for support and design as well as a few other diffs. The only thing I like about the desire is it's hardware keys and chin
Thanks,
Brandon
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brandon1108 said:
Thanks for the reply!
The problem is that the there are only about 4 chefs cooking for the desire (and about 5 others uploading their own version of the 4 roms). And the battery life on the new froyo ROMs are terrible. I used up the whole battery in about 6 hours with 3g not enabled, and brightness at the minimum.
and there seems to be much more support for the nexus. (XDA support that is)
+ there are much more cases available for the nexus, I think it looks better, and I really love the idea of the trackball and how it can change colors
P.S I forgot to ask how are the capacative buttens?
Some have said they don't exactly work (you have to press them a few times before it works)
I remember reading somewhere that you have to press them a bit above the buttons and they work fine. Is this true? or are some devices just randomly screwed?
Thanks,
Brandon
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Ugh, I do have issues with the capacitive buttons. Like I said above, I envy hardware keys. It's not that they don't work, they just arent calibrated. You need to touch way above where they are for them to register. If you press the button where its placed exactly they don't work.
NOTE: I should let you know about all the cool things the Menu button does (second button with the lines) I just found out about the Menu button on my Nexus Lol!

I would do that trade and not have any issues at all. The nexus is The most active device right now and will be thru this year at least. Those problems you listed are not a big deal, the power button only fails for some people. Use track ball wake and you have nothing to worry about. Everything else is not really a problem.

brandon1108 said:
P.S I forgot to ask how are the capacative buttens?
Some have said they don't exactly work (you have to press them a few times before it works)
I remember reading somewhere that you have to press them a bit above the buttons and they work fine. Is this true? or are some devices just randomly screwed?
Thanks,
Brandon
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They're all screwed equally All the capacitive buttons register too high, so you have to press higher to hit them. At least they're consistent.

not a single mention of white notification burn-in. seems common.

brandon1108 said:
Does your nexus one have any of the following problems:
1. trackball gets stuck sometimes
3. the touchscreen randomly stops working
7. earpiece: insufficient volume
Thanks,
Brandon
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yup.
1. get stuck on going "down". kind of annoying but a spazz around with it fixes it.
2 yup, cant get it to unlock sometimes.
3, sort of. wouldnt mind it louder and of better quality. More depth.

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not a single mention of white notification burn-in. seems common.
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:O I remember someone talking about it in the desire forum - If I use a black notification bar I should be fine right?

Brandon,
Does your nexus one have any of the following problems:
1. trackball gets stuck sometimes No
2. the on/off/standby switch has stopped working (or you have had to send it back to be repaired) Yes & Yes gettting repaired by HTC as we speak.
3. the touchscreen randomly stops working No - used to occasionally before Froyo but not anymore
4. 3G connectivity issue No
5. Wifi problems No
6. Proximity sensor sensitivity issue No
7. earpiece: insufficient volume No
8. how are the capacative buttons? Fine, If you swipe them downwards in the opposite direction but the same manner as you would, to select the notification bar. If you tap them with the pad of your finger instead of the point it also a non issue. OTOH tapping with the point of your finger you just need to tap slightly below.
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I disagree and do not think the majority of power button failures are due to poor maintenance. Is your poor maintenance theory just a hunch perhaps? I keep my phone nice and clean, no obvious crap beneath the button. In another thread someone who had a failing power button dismantled his phone an reported the power button presses a switch that is connected via a ribbon cable to a circuit board. No amount of cleaning these fixed it for him. Furthermore people who have had their "power buttons" repaired have reported that all these these items appear to have been replaced when they get their repaired phone back from HTC. Same phone comes back with new IMEI because the circuit board has been changed as part of the fix. To me this suggests that on the faulty units the issue goes deeper than just the button and a users maintenance of it. I am just hoping that the FIX is permanent.

I've had my Nexus One for a few months now and I can't say I've had any of those problems, well my WiFi sometimes just disconnects, but I think that's just to do with the distance between my room and the router. As for button and trackball problems there's been none, even after a horrifying ordeal where a friend spilt beer on my N1 then instantly after in the panic I dropped it in the sand :/
The swap in my opinion can only be based purely on aesthetics, IMO the N1 is nicer, not being biased, the Desire is beautiful, I just think the N1 is more sleek. Hope this helps even a little.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

brandon1108 said:
:O I remember someone talking about it in the desire forum - If I use a black notification bar I should be fine right?
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Yes exactly, just use black color and you'll be fine. That white is such a horrible color anyway.

brandon1108 said:
Does your nexus one have any of the following problems:
1. trackball gets stuck sometimes
2. the on/off/standby switch has stopped working (or you have had to send it back to be repaired)
3. the touchscreen randomly stops working
4. 3G connectivity issue
5. Wifi problems
6. Proximity sensor sensitivity issue
7. earpiece: insufficient volume
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How about a poll?
1. no
2. switch is "soft" on the replacement I just received (was fine on original phone and 1st replacement)
3. no
4. YES! RECEPTION IS A BIG PROBLEM! AS IS 3G CONNECTIVITY (3 bars and websites won't load WTF?)!
5. no
6. no
7. yes
maybe add:
8. PINK screen - YES. Just keep asking HTC for replacements, screw them for their poor quality control.
9. camera color tint (blue for me) - YES. Ok for me ... but I made go another replacement binge if I find anything at fault with this phone.
10. I also experience bad call quality - got fixed by the replacement.

1. Trackball - NO problems here.
2. Power button - NO problems here.
3. Touchscreen Unresponsive - Roughly once or twice a month. I put it to standby and back, and it's fixed. I've noticed that only certain ROMs do this. I never had the problem on FRF50 or FRF83, but I have once in a while on FRF91.
4. 3G Connectivity - NO issues.
5. Wifi - NO issues.
6. Proximity sensor - NO issues.
7. Earpiece volume - NO issue, but I have always had one of Pershoot's kernels installed, which includes an "audio fix."
I would have no hesitation recommending a nexus. Though, if you're a gamer, I'd say get a Galaxy S phone because of the better GPU.

#3 is the only one that consistently pisses me off.. all the other ones are software and can and are fixed with different roms.

just bought an incredible s. questions?

hi there. i bought this phone yesterday and it's great. i love it. best phone i've ever owned.
however i have a few niggling questions;
i find the touch buttons to be very difficult to see in sunlight. is there a way to brighten them? or are all the phones like this. my mother has a galaxy s and i feel her touch buttons are brighter.
is the power button meant to be so slim to the phone? i can find it hard to press sometimes.
secondly, how come my LED notification light only stays on for a short time when i receive a text? i would have thought it stayed on until the text was read, but when i get a text and don't notice for half an hour to an hour the LED isn't flashing. if i receive a text (and i'm there to notice it) the LED flashes. again, is this just my phone or everyones?
also, how safe is it to install the swype beta on your phone? and how safe is it downloading pdf's (accidentally, opened a link on a reputable train website) on to my phone over the 3G network?
and finally, not as important, but the standard version of angry birds seems to always lag/crash at startup. i don't know whether it's due to the ads, but i have to hit home before i am able to click 'start', and then the same again when the level loads up before i can move the birds. i've played rio and that seems fine.
OH, and one more thing. if i go from an area with good 3g reception to an area with poor 3g, and then back again, my phone takes a while to catch up, so i have to turn off mobile networks and then back on again to get 3g back. normal?
sorry for all the questions.
thanks. peace.

Hi there martyfly1990,
Congratulations on your purchase and I hope you'll enjoy your phone as much as everyone here!
I won't be able to answer all of your questions but I'll try to help you out the best I can:
i find the touch buttons to be very difficult to see in sunlight. is there a way to brighten them? or are all the phones like this. my mother has a galaxy s and i feel her touch buttons are brighter.
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The Incredible S's capacitive buttons have a unique feature compared to other devices, they get to turn when you put your phone in landscape mode (only in one direction). In order to achieve this, they use a different method of illumination. What you may also notice is a kind of ghost of the buttons secondary positions beneath what is displayed in a round border if looked at at the right angle. However, it also gives the possibility to have nothing at all showing up when the lights are off giving it a cool look (I find ). Compared to other phones I've seen, I'd say that it's normal for the IS to have slightly less bright touch buttons.
is the power button meant to be so slim to the phone? i can find it hard to press sometimes.
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The IS was given what some people call a very industrial look. Aside from the back cover, the phone is very minimal in the sense that nothing extrudes from it. The power as well as the volume rocker buttons are even the same colour as the body. All to give it that slab look. The volume rocker sticks close to the body too, and I'm sure your phone is perfectly fine. You'll get used to it
and how safe is it downloading pdf's (accidentally, opened a link on a reputable train website) on to my phone over the 3G network?
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If you trust the source (and are sure that the file is indeed a pdf, there is no problem at all.
and finally, not as important, but the standard version of angry birds seems to always lag/crash at startup. i don't know whether it's due to the ads, but i have to hit home before i am able to click 'start', and then the same again when the level loads up before i can move the birds. i've played rio and that seems fine.
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I will presume that your phone is still stock? I haven't had that problem with Angry Birds, but did you try uninstalling it and installing it back on? Worth giving a try.
OH, and one more thing. if i go from an area with good 3g reception to an area with poor 3g, and then back again, my phone takes a while to catch up, so i have to turn off mobile networks and then back on again to get 3g back. normal?
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The reaction time not being immediate is normal, but how long do mean by "a while"? 10 seconds or 10minutes? I could only think of a radio problem if it's really bad. Could you share what version of android and what's your baseband version on your phone?

martyfly1990 said:
secondly, how come my LED notification light only stays on for a short time when i receive a text? i would have thought it stayed on until the text was read, but when i get a text and don't notice for half an hour to an hour the LED isn't flashing. if i receive a text (and i'm there to notice it) the LED flashes. again, is this just my phone or everyones?
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I think that other question has been answered so i will skip it.
LED notification i will only last for 5 minutes, so far i haven found out any ways to stretch up the time until we read the message or any other notification.
I think they set it to only 5 minutes properly of the battery drain?
Hope its help.

[Q] Z3c screen response very poor

Hi guys! All new to this site. I just got a z3c and everything is really great, but for 2 things:
The screen response is so poor, that if it can't be fixed, I'm returning it. Deal breaker.
Whenever I tap something, the screen responses in about 1 second. That is too long. Way too long.
Any of you tried the "Don't tap the white tile" app? (it's a game, where you have to be fast on your fingers) If you have (or you think, that your phone is NOT slow, please give it a go)
The swiping seems to be ok, it's the tapping that's delayed!
I'm hoping that it's just my phone and it can be replaced, 'cause otherwise I will have no choice, but to find another one.
Also is it not possible for me, to decide wether or not an app can have acces to internet? On iPhones you can manually dissable every app from using the internet, both wifi and regular. This can also prove to be a deal breaker for me.
I hope you can help me to find out if I should keep this, apart from that stuff, really wonderful phone or if I have to go back to iPhone, which I don't want to actually.
Regards Kokinos, Denmark

"Whenever I tap something, the screen responses in about 1 second." - that is definitely not normal. I am playing Wordz and screen response is instant.
There are many apps to control permission (e.g. Internet) for individual apps, but it requires root - APP OPS is the best. But you might try this, which works without root: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netspark.firewall&hl=en or this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gmail.permissionmanager&hl=en

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"Whenever I tap something, the screen responses in about 1 second." - that is definitely not normal. I am playing Wordz and screen response is instant.
There are many apps to control permission (e.g. Internet) for individual apps, but it requires root - APP OPS is the best. But you might try this, which works without root:
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Thanks a lot, Dave! I'm so pleased to hear that, I will take it to the store and ask for a replacement then
-funny thing is, if I tap really hard, as in so hard the pixels round my finger turn black and I'm holding on to the phone with the other hand so tight, that it's on the verge of breaking, it IS possible to get the phone to react a, almost, once.
But swipe seems to work alright. I can't understand that. I actually thougt it was a software flaw and not a hardware one. But maybe I'm wrong.
I'll read into your links. My boyfriend might be able to understand a little more of it, so he'll help me

Nobody, that have noticed a delay on tapping, but not swiping?
Anybody I can convince to try the "Don't tap the white tile" game? It's free. I can play it fine on a iPhone, but on my Z3c the screen doesn't react fast enough. Unless I tap so hard, the pixels around my finger turn black and that can't be healthy for the phone.
It's not, that this game is important, it's just, that it shows very accurate, wether your sceen has delay or not.

That white tile game is the piano kind of game from Cheetah game studios? In case I just tried it and no issues with the screen response while tapping. It's more likely that you have a faulty device :/

davebugyi said:
That white tile game is the piano kind of game from Cheetah game studios? In case I just tried it and no issues with the screen response while tapping. It's more likely that you have a faulty device :/
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Yes it is, and thank you SO much, Dave, you have been so helpfull :victory:
Yay, I'm so glad I don't have to find another phone, I will go and have this replaced :victory:
Thank you!

Kokinos said:
Thanks a lot, Dave! I'm so pleased to hear that, I will take it to the store and ask for a replacement then
-funny thing is, if I tap really hard, as in so hard the pixels round my finger turn black and I'm holding on to the phone with the other hand so tight, that it's on the verge of breaking, it IS possible to get the phone to react a, almost, once.
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I cant imagine why your phone isnt working properly , cross your fingers the store you are trying to return it to doesnt read this forum.

jarayn said:
I cant imagine why your phone isnt working properly , cross your fingers the store you are trying to return it to doesnt read this forum.
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Thanks for your not so helpfull comment. I would certainly NOT have pressed that hard, if it weren't for the fact, that I either would return it or have a replacement. Luckily I'm located in Denmark. We have excellent consumer rights. Otherwise I would be stupid to have done so.

Just picked up this phone

I wanted something more durable especially when it comes to water and since I was switching to AT&T the Active was an obvious choice. I've had the phone for a few days now and I'm really pleased with it, especially the camera and battery life. The first day I had almost 4 hours of screen on time which was close to full brightness and still had over 40% battery left. I thought that had to be a fluke or something but it's clearly not. Now to the point of my post, why is this phone not very popular? Why anyone would choose the regular S6 over the Active is beyond me. Does anyone think we'll ever see root on this phone? I'm very pleased with it out of the box but there's a few things I'd love root for. Like why does there have to be a persistent notification telling me I'm connected to wifi. That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I couldn't believe it couldn't be turned off.
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pside15 said:
I wanted something more durable especially when it comes to water and since I was switching to AT&T the Active was an obvious choice. I've had the phone for a few days now and I'm really pleased with it, especially the camera and battery life. The first day I had almost 4 hours of screen on time which was close to full brightness and still had over 40% battery left. I thought that had to be a fluke or something but it's clearly not. Now to the point of my post, why is this phone not very popular? Why anyone would choose the regular S6 over the Active is beyond me. Does anyone think we'll ever see root on this phone? I'm very pleased with it out of the box but there's a few things I'd love root for. Like why does there have to be a persistent notification telling me I'm connected to wifi. That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I couldn't believe it couldn't be turned off.
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Gotta change that sig as its all wrong now, lol.
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What are some of your cons for the device?
I've heard various things about it, such as there's some faint line down the side of the screen on most all models.
Some people claim that the speak on speaker call sucks.
etc etc. Anything you don't really like about the phone that could be most people's gripe about it?

Mine works great. Nothing to complain about...

pside15 said:
I wanted something more durable especially when it comes to water and since I was switching to AT&T the Active was an obvious choice. I've had the phone for a few days now and I'm really pleased with it, especially the camera and battery life. The first day I had almost 4 hours of screen on time which was close to full brightness and still had over 40% battery left. I thought that had to be a fluke or something but it's clearly not. Now to the point of my post, why is this phone not very popular? Why anyone would choose the regular S6 over the Active is beyond me. Does anyone think we'll ever see root on this phone? I'm very pleased with it out of the box but there's a few things I'd love root for. Like why does there have to be a persistent notification telling me I'm connected to wifi. That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I couldn't believe it couldn't be turned off.
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Gotta change that sig as its all wrong now, lol.
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First, fingerprint sensor. I need security but entering pin/code every time I wanted to unlock the phone was cumbersome.
Second, is availability at the time of purchase. It wasn't apparently available with carriers in Canada.
Third, popularity, and community development and support. Galaxy s6 has more users, and therefore, more developers working on its rom.
Fourth, availability of accessories due to Galaxy S6 owner population vs Active.
I can overlook all other points, but missing the fingerprint sensor was a deal breaker for me.

For me, the lack of a fingerprint scanner isn't a deal-breaker. I guess I'm 'old school' or something. Though I understand the convenience of it.
I'm on the edge of picking up this phone, but, kind of worried about what type of specs the S7 Active will have and will it be worth the wait.
Currently with the S6 Active, my concerns are:
No Root (not a deal breaker)
Slowness of AT&T updates (not a deal breaker if ODIN is reliable and we can get timely firmware updates outside of AT&T)
Length of time it's taking to get to Marshmellow
Quality of speaker and using the speaker phone (I've heard that it's not too hot)
Lack of accessories (agree with you on this, doesn't seem a lot out there)
What I don't like about S6 Active:
Placement of the audio jack port. Really should be on the bottom, like the S6
No expandable memory option
No removable battery option (Not really a deal breaker if the battery has no issues and will remain effective for at least 3-4 years.)
Not enough bands to support international carriers and carrier aggregation support to the fullest by having as many bands possible (Not really a deal breaker, as I'll get a few where I am).
Touch-Wiz. Rather to to some stock android OS rather than have all the crap on the phone. (relates to having a root)
But beyond all of the above, the phone looks really really nice and I'll likely pick it up anyways, for lack of anything better, IMO.
I was thinking Nexus 6P, but it's just too big for me.
Nexus 5X, just kinda of too weak for me. (has less bands than Nexus 6P, actually)
I was thinking just a regular S6, but like the Active design better.

Just bought one,for durability, came from the V10 and loving it so far.

Succumbed
Well, I picked up this phone(64GB Version). Got it to update to 5.1.1.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but this phone is simply beautiful.
The weighting and feel is also very very nice.
It's a quite zippy and fast phone.
So far, on the whole I'm liking this phone alot.
However some points I've come across. Any suggestions or resolutions welcome.
Minor Dislikes:
Forced to see carrier's name on top-left of lock screen (Not just specific to this phone)
└ I'd prefer to see useful icons on the status bar(left-hand side) during the phone being locked.​
Notifications Management
└ In order to remove Heads UP notifications, I've had to download an application like: HeadsOff​└ Some applications, in order to see the icon in the status bar, the rectangular static notification remains on the lock screen, wasting screen real-estate. There's no way to remove this static notification from the lock screen without adjusting the settings to remove notifications from the app, and then that removes the icon in the status bar.​└ Some applications like Accu Radio won't show the player controls on the lock screen. No matter what combination of notification settings are used. (Not really the phone's fault but..)​
Fingerprint Scanner Lacking
└ While the Active doesn't have a fingerprint button to scan fingerprint to unlock the phone, I thought Samsung had some models that used the actual screen to do this. If so, the option would be nice to have on the Active​
Headphone Jack Location (Not just specific to this phone)
└ I still don't see why phone makers are putting the jack at the top of the phone. Many people put their phone in their pocket. The natural insertion direction is the way one is holding it at the time of use, the top goes into the pocket first. Yet if the audio cable/jack is jutting out from the top, it makes it hard to put in the pocket, as well as decreases the life of the cable, etc. (not a deal-breaker, but an annoyance for sure)​
Touchscreen SUPER sensitive
└ I've found that the screen is simply overly sensitive to touch and find myself many times mistakenly activating something else, before my finger even touches the screen.​└ Currently I do not have a screen protector for the phone, so not sure this will matter.​
Other's Pain points:
Speaker Location/Quality
└ While the speaker isn't in the best of locations, I haven't really noticed and sound degradation/quality. It's a mini speaker. We can't expect blasting Dolby 7.1 haha​
Active Key easy to press accidently
└ I have not found any problem with this, and I typically don't encounter having this button activated unintentionally with my day to day use.​└ Some applications like Accu Radio won't show the player controls on the lock screen. No matter what combination of notification settings are used. (Not really the phone's fault but..)​
Fingerprint Scanner Lacking
└ While the Active doesn't have a fingerprint button to scan fingerprint to unlock the phone, I thought Samsung had some models that used the actual screen to do this. If so, the option would be nice to have on the Active​

BlueCider said:
Well, I picked up this phone(64GB Version). Got it to update to 5.1.1.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but this phone is simply beautiful.
The weighting and feel is also very very nice.
It's a quite zippy and fast phone.
So far, on the whole I'm liking this phone alot.
However some points I've come across. Any suggestions or resolutions welcome.
Minor Dislikes:
Forced to see carrier's name on top-left of lock screen (Not just specific to this phone)
└ I'd prefer to see useful icons on the status bar(left-hand side) during the phone being locked.​
Notifications Management
└ In order to remove Heads UP notifications, I've had to download an application like: HeadsOff​└ Some applications, in order to see the icon in the status bar, the rectangular static notification remains on the lock screen, wasting screen real-estate. There's no way to remove this static notification from the lock screen without adjusting the settings to remove notifications from the app, and then that removes the icon in the status bar.​└ Some applications like Accu Radio won't show the player controls on the lock screen. No matter what combination of notification settings are used. (Not really the phone's fault but..)​
Fingerprint Scanner Lacking
└ While the Active doesn't have a fingerprint button to scan fingerprint to unlock the phone, I thought Samsung had some models that used the actual screen to do this. If so, the option would be nice to have on the Active​
Headphone Jack Location (Not just specific to this phone)
└ I still don't see why phone makers are putting the jack at the top of the phone. Many people put their phone in their pocket. The natural insertion direction is the way one is holding it at the time of use, the top goes into the pocket first. Yet if the audio cable/jack is jutting out from the top, it makes it hard to put in the pocket, as well as decreases the life of the cable, etc. (not a deal-breaker, but an annoyance for sure)​
Touchscreen SUPER sensitive
└ I've found that the screen is simply overly sensitive to touch and find myself many times mistakenly activating something else, before my finger even touches the screen.​└ Currently I do not have a screen protector for the phone, so not sure this will matter.​
Other's Pain points:
Speaker Location/Quality
└ While the speaker isn't in the best of locations, I haven't really noticed and sound degradation/quality. It's a mini speaker. We can't expect blasting Dolby 7.1 haha​
Active Key easy to press accidently
└ I have not found any problem with this, and I typically don't encounter having this button activated unintentionally with my day to day use.​└ Some applications like Accu Radio won't show the player controls on the lock screen. No matter what combination of notification settings are used. (Not really the phone's fault but..)​
Fingerprint Scanner Lacking
└ While the Active doesn't have a fingerprint button to scan fingerprint to unlock the phone, I thought Samsung had some models that used the actual screen to do this. If so, the option would be nice to have on the Active​
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Add another dislike:
Samsung Touchwiz and how it handles, doesn't allow handling of LED definition.
Unfortunately, Samsung, in their infinite wisdom, have blown up their Touchwiz and made it virtually impossible for applications like Lightflow, to define custom LED colors for applications.
The best that can happen is that some 'workaround' by the author of Lightflow can be used, but that just leaves the Badges and Notifications icons on the status bar for you to clear out manually, after reading your email or messages.
Price to pay to have any control over LED.....
Just one more reason I want root....