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[Q] Nook Color Worth it?

As for a cheap tablet, should I purchase a Nook Color? $250, isn't a bad deal.
Is it worth it? Laggy?

It's worth it. Benchmarks running cm7 beat the benchmarks of my evo running sense.

Well, it really depends on what you want to do.
As a tablet pc for the price it can't be beat, Don't buy it if you are expecting a powerhouse of a mobile device that will play crysis 2.
For my uses it's a perfect device, I use it for email, web surfing, rss feeds and ebooks and for a little music off and on.
If you are looking for something that has manufacturer support and will play HD movies with no configuration and has a battery that will last for a week with 3g wireless, then no this will not be the best for you.
All-in-all though I love it esp for the price, what this 'ereader' can do is amazing.
But before you buy you really need to ask yourself what you want to do,otherwise you will be like the other poster in the 'I regret buying a nook' thread....

It does depend on your expectations. If you want something that just works great out of the box with no effort, this is potentially your device. The stock works very well. The browser is very responsive and the Pulse app is great. All I would need in the stock is a comic book reader and it would be perfect as-is.
Now, if you want lots of functionality, you can install a new OS either internally or on an SD card. For the SD route, the experience is quite good. Not really much lag at all with my Sandisk Class 4. For running off a card, its impressive and I understand the internal install is even better. Once they get honeycomb ironed out and stable, it will be perfect.

I have an iPad, bought it new, love it. I bought an NC 10 days ago and gave it to my girlfriend as a gift. I am thinking about buying another one for me. For $250 I think they're awesome. The screen is very nice. I think it is only going to get more useable.
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indagroove said:
It's worth it. Benchmarks running cm7 beat the benchmarks of my evo running sense.
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How are you in my brain??? (kidding)
That being said, my buddy bought a nook the day he saw CM7 on mine. He also liked blowing away my EVOs quadrant score, but got mad when I kicked him off my tethering for gloating.
I wouldn't buy one retail for $250 when you can save a bit by shipping around or if you are ok buying used. I see two for under $200 locally on craigslist.
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short answer ... definitely worth it. Had mine for a few days, installed CM7 (Gingerbread). Much better than what I had expected from a $250 device. The soft keys are unresponsive on very rare occasions.

Four months ago, it was far and away the best value you could get in a small tablet. It still is a great value and I have no regrets, but the Asus Eee Pad Transformer is incredibly intriguing. However, by the time you get the max RAM and dock, it's much more than 2x the price of the nook.
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I wouldn't buy one retail for $250 when you can save a bit by shipping around or if you are ok buying used. I see two for under $200 locally on craigslist.
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I'd caution against this approach. $50 is not a large enough savings to take the chance on latent problems and then dealing with potential warranty headaches born from not having the original receipt. If you're comfortable with that risk, then by all means.

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I'd caution against this approach. $50 is not a large enough savings to take the chance on latent problems and then dealing with potential warranty headaches born from not having the original receipt. If you're comfortable with that risk, then by all means.
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Personally, I bought it as an expensive toy. I've used it mostly for leisure e-reading, browsing, and textbooks. I've stuck a few engineering textbooks on it (works surprisingly well with EZPDF and landscape mode). Although, I do think a 10" screen at the very least would be more comfortable fit for textbooks.
When it's in not use, it's usually sitting on my desk as a photo frame in slideshow mode. And I have to say, the pictures really do look awesome thanks to the sexy IPS screen.
All in all, well worth the $250+tax I payed for it nearly 4 months ago. Going from stock to autonootered to froyo/honeycomb to CM7/phiremod made it feel like it just kept getting better.
Currently using the latest CM7 build overclocked to 1300 MHz. Browsing runs smooth enough in Dolphin HD to not be an annoyance.

I used mine as an eReader for the first time today! LOL
Makes an awesome tablet...so yeah, its worth it!

test one out. it's 1000x better rooted. i enjoy mine.
why don't they just make it into a full tablet and sell more?!?

Just go for it and you wont repent. Worth every penny, rather lot more!

Last year the Nook Color was an awesome value for just $250. It was a 7 inch Android device with a 1024x600 resolution IPS display, 800MHz processor with SGX530 graphics, and 512MB of RAM. Out of the box it was mostly just an ereader, but it isn't difficult to root and you can even boot a seperate ROM straight from an SD card without having to modify the stock OS, very awesome.
This year though, some nicer tablets have come down in price. The Nook Color is certainly still the best at it's price range. But there are some tablets not much more expensive that have some advantages worth spending a bit more money on.
The Galaxy Tab wifi is $350.
+ It's a tablet out of the box and Android 2.3 is rolling out.
+ 385 grams, it's lighter than the 422 gram Nook Color.
+ 1GHz TI OMAP 3630 processor, Nook Color is a 800MHz TI OMAP 3621.
+ 16GB internal storage.
+ Dual cameras.
+ More attractive appearance, flat glass front, white back.
+ Easily accessible microSD slot.
- Not an IPS display.
The ASUS Transformer is $400
+ Android 3.0 Honeycomb.
+ 10 inch 1280x800 IPS display
+ 1GHz dual core Tegra 2 processor
+ 1GB RAM
+ 16GB internal storage
+ Dual cameras.
+ More attractive appearance (yeah, I think the NC is ugly as sin)
+ Easily accessible microSD slot.
- Heavier weight compared to 7 inch tablets (same as iPad)
If you don't want to spend more than $250, then the Nook Color is awesome. But for just $100 to $150 more, I think you can get quite a lot more value from a tablet these days.

I would definitely say its worth it. I was originally looking at the Asus transformer for my first tablet but after the ridiculously low stock at launch I settled on the Acer iconia. It was a nice tablet and I liked it a lot but couldn't justify 450 bucks for what's basically a toy and also I like to tinker with things and it looks like that one won't be getting any custom roms for a while at least so I returned it and picked up the nook.
The first night I installed cm7 and haven't looked back since. I was especially glad I got the nook when the Netflix app came out since we can make it work on the nook very easily and I don't think that's possible on the iconia tab at all yet. I've been running cm7 overclocked to 900 MHz with the cm7 settings and it runs well for my uses, ebooks, web browsing, music, and some games. Theres really only two negatives I've noticed, one is the lack of haptic feedback and the other is wifi issues at my work. I'm not sure what causes it but it constantly loses the connection and as soon as I go into wifi settings page it reconnects. It works fine connected to my home network though and also when using my g2 as a wifi hotspot. Overall I really like it and think it is definitely worth the money especially compared to other tablets that's are available.

The only tablet I see which may rival the nook color is the sonicview gtab.
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tuffghost said:
wifi issues at my work. I'm not sure what causes it but it constantly loses the connection and as soon as I go into wifi settings page it reconnects. It works fine connected to my home network though and also when using my g2 as a wifi hotspot.
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I had what sounds like a similar problem too. Wi-Fi Lock seems to have solved my problems with wifi and CM7.

i think the Nook Color is a great value at under $300. That said, you can also get a G-Tablet for about $299 now fairly easily. Of those two, I'd go with the NC because of its size, display, and build quality. It's not as fast though.
That said, I am no longer an owner of a NC. I just sold it on craigslist an hour ago for $235 with some accessories included. I recently purchased the Acer A500 honeycomb tablet and I love it. I was surprised I'd like the larger size and weight (heaviest tablet...) but it actually feels nice and solid. The speed of the Tegra 2 + 1gb DDR3 Ram is a huge step up from the Nook Color even with root/overclock and lots of tweaking.

Since a few other comparisons have been brought up in here, what do you guys think about the ViewPad7 for $50 more?

I'm on the fence too. Between NC and wifi tab, I can't seem to decide. I was an early adopter; bought NC within 1st week of release but returned it as then there weren't any custom roms etc. is the sammy tab worth $100 more for the hard keys and gps? I would use mostly for browsing, second as a reader. Can anyone care battery life between the two (post rootingNC of course)?
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Should i get a touchpad?

Hi all. Im considering to buy a touchpad for personal uses. I understand that webOS is rather ok, except for the lack of applications to play around with and thus android is there to save the day. However are there any major bugs in the android alpha builds? The price to me is very reasonable. Another thing that worries me is the internal memory, that is if the 16gb will run out fast? Please, any touchpad users just help me to recommend, that would be great!

Buying HP Touch pad and have ICS on it is worth it. After ICS update on HP Touch pad I have compare Motorola XOOM and HP Touch pad they both look same you will lot and lots of money buying HP Touch pad.

At firesale prices? Yes. Otherwise, why not wait for the next wave of ICS tablets to come out?

Its not really that firesale pirced where i'm from... abour 170USD.. but thats considered affordable still to me. But is it worth getting one? As in would i regret once i bought it?

thunderskain said:
Hi all. Im considering to buy a touchpad for personal uses. I understand that webOS is rather ok, except for the lack of applications to play around with and thus android is there to save the day. However are there any major bugs in the android alpha builds? The price to me is very reasonable. Another thing that worries me is the internal memory, that is if the 16gb will run out fast? Please, any touchpad users just help me to recommend, that would be great!
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WebOS is under sung. It has some really cool features, and I'm personally hoping to see it grow and expand in the coming years.
That said, there's also Android. But as skypagers fails to point out...there are still quite a few significant bugs to be worked out in both Gingerbread and ICS builds. Including camera functionality, including chat (in both GB and ICS), video playback, including youtube (in the ICS builds), skype etc etc etc. The sh*t crashes and you might get force-closes and reboots...they're not uncommon at all.
But really it's personal preference. If you've got the scratch, just get a 64GB Transformer Prime with the docking station. If money means nothing, then avoid the HPTP. It's high maintenance, and still everything doesn't work. If you're looking for a badass deal on a great tablet that let's you modify, hack and tweak the f*ck out of it...then the HPTP is for you.
I got 2 32GB's in the 2nd firesale and my wife and I both love them. But my roommate just got his Transformer Prime...let's just say that now, I'm strongly considering selling mine to upgrade to the 700 when it drops in a few months.
I agree with danknee, if you can wait and have the loot. Get something that will be less maintenance. But if you can get a kickass deal, which would put a HPTP in your hands tomorrow...why wait?

I personally like web os better than Android. If you install preware and adjust a few things, the touchpad is rather enjoyable. While there is a lack of apps, if you're plans for the touchpad are mostly web browsing, music, video playback, and an occasional game, you'll have no regrets. And if you get bored or find yourself needing more, there's always android.
BTW, I own 2 32gb touchpads, one dualboots with cm7 and the other cm9. Space has never been an issue either. I have all seasons of archer, ugly Americans, bobs burgers, a half dozen hour long comedy specials, and a few gigs of music. With all that, still have 11gb free. So space hasn't been an issue yet.

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WebOS is under sung. It has some really cool features, and I'm personally hoping to see it grow and expand in the coming years.
That said, there's also Android. But as skypagers fails to point out...there are still quite a few significant bugs to be worked out in both Gingerbread and ICS builds. Including camera functionality, including chat (in both GB and ICS), video playback, including youtube (in the ICS builds), skype etc etc etc. The sh*t crashes and you might get force-closes and reboots...they're not uncommon at all.
But really it's personal preference. If you've got the scratch, just get a 64GB Transformer Prime with the docking station. If money means nothing, then avoid the HPTP. It's high maintenance, and still everything doesn't work. If you're looking for a badass deal on a great tablet that let's you modify, hack and tweak the f*ck out of it...then the HPTP is for you.
I got 2 32GB's in the 2nd firesale and my wife and I both love them. But my roommate just got his Transformer Prime...let's just say that now, I'm strongly considering selling mine to upgrade to the 700 when it drops in a few months.
I agree with danknee, if you can wait and have the loot. Get something that will be less maintenance. But if you can get a kickass deal, which would put a HPTP in your hands tomorrow...why wait?
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Thanks for the in deph analysis. I have to agree with what you said there. Understand the new ics tablets are a better choice for now but yeah, money wise is an issue so I have to lower my limits. Basically I don't really hve any uses for a tablet but just wanna get one so as to experience the tablet feel and when time to come I'm bored, I could just sell it off. So high priced tablets are a no go for me. Besides, the transformer prime does not seem to be available in my country yet.
Based on everyone replies, I think I could make a better choice now! Thanks guys!
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Consider this: ASUSEee Pad MeMO 370T. For about $250 you get a quad core 7" that comes with ICS. Of course you are going to have to wait to get one like the rest of us until the second quarter of the year. I'm planning on picking one of these bad boy when it comes out.

For what you want to do, no. For learning how to mess around with this stuff, sure. But its not a reliable device for everyday use not yet at least. Wait for the new wave of tablets and get something from a decent company like Asus or Samsung .

Fehnix22 said:
For what you want to do, no. For learning how to mess around with this stuff, sure. But its not a reliable device for everyday use not yet at least. Wait for the new wave of tablets and get something from a decent company like Asus or Samsung .
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This is good advice. I'd also say that even if you do get your Touchpad running Android as well as the rest of us, there might be some issues that will never go away. I'm not sure there are enough developer resources to fix the spotty WiFi, the sound distortion on sleep, the camera, or the dozens of other little imperfections. It's a device for the hobbyist.
I have most of my music collection on my 16 GB Touchpad and still have a few gigabytes left. It's good enough, although you'd only be able to store half a dozen movies on there at once.

While I think the touchpad is an awesome device and disagree with many of the complaints about CM9 being showstoppers, thought I'd share the Acer Iconia a500 is $299 on woot.com. Today only, while supplies last. 32 GB, 10.1" screen, tegra 2 1GHz dual core, 1GB RAM, microSD slot, running honeycomb. Similar specs to the TouchPad, but was designed for Android.
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Acer Iconia a500 is $299 on woot.com
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don't think it worth 130$ more.
IMHO:
If you have low budget and you are not perfectionist - buy touchpad. Yes, it's not perfect, it still have some bugs in 2.3 but they are minor and overall it's working pretty good. And stable enough 4.0 we will probably see in next few months.
Also check 7" formfactor, if you like it then probably better to wait for asus 7" tablet for 250$.
If you have 500-600$ in your pocket that you don't need, wait for updated transformer prime or something like this

getbuzzin said:
Consider this: ASUSEee Pad MeMO 370T. For about $250 you get a quad core 7" that comes with ICS. Of course you are going to have to wait to get one like the rest of us until the second quarter of the year. I'm planning on picking one of these bad boy when it comes out.
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Yeah, heard about that and it sounds too good a bargain too. But does ASUS have good android development around? At least i can see that the touchpad has a ready team of developers right now...
and the $250 is the dual core model..

go for it, not only can u run android but web os and Linux this thing is pretty much the hd2 of tablets, I just picked up mine for 150$ and I'm loving it.

my honest review...
I've never owned an 'official' android tablet. I have 2 touchpads and one nook color. The HP touch pad is a great device. But there are some serious downsides:
1: fit & finish... there's a reason for so many refurbished models. My wife's is hardly used and has a cracked case near the speaker. It has maybe 2 hours of use total. And its been in a case 100% of the time. No explanation HP. None at all. I won't send it back because everything else works.
2: Android is a shoehorn and always will be. The current WIFI and kernel glitch are the only two real downsides to android on the Touch pad. If you use Gtalk w/video chat or Skype also stay away. The front camera isn't working, but it sucks anyways so IMO its not an issue. ICS is the only way to use the touch pad. GB was more stable but ICS is built for tablets and it shows. The kernel being very buggy for OTG is also a annoyance.
3: its a little heavier and a little thicker than the competition. Its noticeable but not really bad. The formfactor is also much different. The Touchpad is square like the iPad and the Xoom, 10.1, Transformer are more rectangular. If you like holding an original iPad then this isn't much different. Don't discount WebOS either. Its a very pretty OS. It has a lot of nice features. I don't use it much but its not awful and useless like some people make it. It is going to find much less use now that ICS brings that killer web browser.
My conclusion.....
The touchpad is still a sweet deal. 170ish for a 10in 1.5ghz 1GB ram 16GB is great. The nook tablet comes close but its more expensive and 7in. When you start getting close to 250 for a 32GB its a little rougher, especially with the deals on woot and stuff. Also compusa has refurb Transformer 16gb for 299 which isn't bad.
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hp touchpad v/s cheap chinese ics tablets

hi there
i am planning to take a tablet
i have little confusion wether to take touch pad or cheap chinese gemei g9 which comes with pre install ICS 4.0.3
here are my questions regarding touchpad
1. is the cm9 stable on tp ??
2. how much is the battery backup time using wifii watching videos
3. is the keyboard and stand recommended for buying with touchpad or not required [coz i am getting bundle offer of wireless charging stand+32gb tab+keybord]???
waiting for your suggestions
Thanks

I bought one of the Chinese models and ended up selling it within a couple of weeks. To be honest, the first thing I noticed was how flimsy it was. I even tried the 7" and the 10" models. They are feature packed in comparison to the TP but the quality of build is far inferior to the HP TP. This even spreads to the charger which (in the UK) are decidedly dodgy.
Plus, you are never going to get the backup and user base that you get with the likes of the TP. Look at all the work that is going on with the worldwide user base in terms of adapting towards the Android switch (from Webos) and you won't see anything like that in terms of support for the Chinese models.
CM9 although only at A2 status is remarkably stable. I've seen beta software on other OS less stable.
I'd say if you get the chance to get the case and charging stand then go for it. A case is a definite must in my view. Mine is never out of it and after six months of daily use is like new.
Hope that helps

thanks for ur reply
what about the battery backup on ics ???
what about keyboard i am getting 32gb+keybord+touchstone stand+original hp case for 275 usd

Definitely get the touchpad. I have an HP touchpad with both the hp keyboard and touchstone but I bought them separately. I also have an Ipad 2 so I think I'm in a position to have at least a non biased opinion. I used my HP touchpad for my thesis using webOS since it's interface is so polished and easy to use. Now i'm using ICS more only because of games. I mainly use the Ipad for games. Interfacewise I think webOS is the best especially if you want a sub for your pc or laptop. Ipad for the apps. Ipad still feels smoother even though my Touchpad is overclocked at 1.5.
I bought the touchstone together with the touchpad but I rarely used it. I felt stupid for buying it but since last month, while working on my thesis) I really enjoyed the ease of just placing your tablet on for easy reading etc.

I ordered one Gemei G9 16gb version from merimobiles yesterday. my research regarding this particular chinese tablet says its build quality is pretty good among plethora of chinese tablets. Specs are damn good too. I wont comment on touchpad because i havent even seen this device.

I have my touchpad on AOKP milestone 4. Its pretty snappy and very stable. The only issue so far has been sound problems here and there.

You should get the Touchpad, its biggest selling point is:
Developers, Developers, Developers
It lacks some hardware like microSD, HDMI, but its still a great device that can dual boot.

At this point why not get a tegra 2 tablet they should be getting major price cuts soon
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I just found an open box (returned) 32G touchpad at BestBuy on sale for $129.
I bought it. Don't know if I'll keep it. It's a bit heavy, and not quite the resolution I want, but wow, a lot more affordable than a new Transformer Prime/Infinity or a new iPad.
If it works out, I may buy a few more (or wait until the new Nexus Tablet is out.)

I bought a cheap chinese model too. I return ed it to the store 2 days later. simply cannot compare in build quality and speed.
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Touchpad still a good buy?

I'm looking for an on-the-cheap 9.7 - 10.1 tablet. I was looking at a variety of options, like the Le Pan II, but I've seen a couple Touchpad's floating around $100-$150, so this is certainly a viable option.
But do you guys think this is still a good buy?

Yes! I've updated to jellybean and it's running great, as snappy as my girlfriends nexus 7
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tjw345 said:
I'm looking for an on-the-cheap 9.7 - 10.1 tablet. I was looking at a variety of options, like the Le Pan II, but I've seen a couple Touchpad's floating around $100-$150, so this is certainly a viable option.
But do you guys think this is still a good buy?
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I use phonearena.com to compare specs when I'm shopping for stuff like this... it isn't the end all be all, but it gives you a general idea.
I personally think a Touchpad for 100ish is still a great bargain.

It really depends on your use case. The TP is great, and for someone who is used to Android it's wonderful. A week ago I would have recommended it without hesitation. But I helped a friend who is MUCH more tech-savvy than myself install Android on a TP yesterday. I realized that just maintaining the thing is significantly more complicated than I, someone who has gotten used to TP Android's little quirks like it's second nature, realize.
TLDR; if you like tweaking and such, the TP is great; if you want it to just work, get something meant for Android.

Orphaned TP's a good deal?
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It really depends on your use case. The TP is great, and for someone who is used to Android it's wonderful. A week ago I would have recommended it without hesitation. But I helped a friend who is MUCH more tech-savvy than myself install Android on a TP yesterday. I realized that just maintaining the thing is significantly more complicated than I, someone who has gotten used to TP Android's little quirks like it's second nature, realize.
TLDR; if you like tweaking and such, the TP is great; if you want it to just work, get something meant for Android.
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What other year and a half old 10 inch tablet is still selling for its original, (discounted), price? What other ... is still being updated to the latest and greatest Android? There must be something to these orphaned tablets besides a perverse sense of humour in the geek community. PS - my family has three. I would recomend the 32GB models and check for no cracks in the plastic around the speakers. Craigs List is your friend.

At $100 even at $150 its a great buy. Given the ugly 100 tablets that off brand companies are releasing. I think hardware wise the touch pad is better than the Kindle fire. Some one correct me on that if I'm wrong.
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Bought mine for $150 with 2 cases, charger, fancy wireless charger and sweet Pelican case for $150 and I am happy. Would I be more happy with a rear 5-8 megapixel camera, SIM card slot and GPS? Sure. But my phone works just as well for that.

I spent $75 for mine(because of a bad charger), picked up the charger, case and TouchStone for a extra $50, and have JB running. It runs fantastic! Only issues I don't care for, No ext SD, GPS and the DPI for the TP is a bit low, so the display is not as good as some of the newer devices. But for the money, you cant get better(IMO)

I have one with the latest CM9 release directly from CM. It runs perfectly. Video is blazing fast and looks great (e.g. Youtube app). The low priced tablets out there are garbage. This is fast, runs CM perfectly, and is a bargain. I think the screen looks better than my Nexus 7.

I've got two, a 16GB with Jellybean I've been using for over a year and a new 32GB still with plastic one, good little tablets.

Yes! I'm so tempted to purchase another from Craigslist. Its so cheap!
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I miss my tp. Got it new for 150 enjoyed it till this summer and sold it for 200$ had ics on it at the time.. Ran supper smoothly.. Found it very easy to upgrade..
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I think the touchpad is still a very good option. Big screen, cheap, and the hardware isn't so out of date yet. I'll probably be using mine for many years to come. Did I mention cheap?
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I was lucky to buy mine during the original $99 firesale. And I was pretty happy with it when it was webOS only (only gripe was the lack of apps) especially back when they offered free apps in their monthly newsletter emailed out. And I have been even happier with it having gone through the transition through different Android ROMs (initially the CM9 nightlies, then RandonROM Falcon 1.2, then SGA's Fat 'n Creamy CM9 and now OaT's Light 'n Tasty Jelly Bean) that have been stable, fast, and added the extensive Android app market. Dual-booting between webOS and Android added unique capabilities that even iPad users didn't ave, and finally with the latest CM9 and new CM10 ROMs the working cameras completed the Android experience on TouchPads.
That all said... I don't know if I would always recommend going the TouchPad route to others. I'd only recommend it with a caveat... that you are somewhat comfortable working on computers and able to follow directions, at the risk of bricking your investment. I am not the most technically savvy person, but I am somewhat comfortable with computers and I do have the ability to follow directions and stay calm when something out of the ordinary happens. And... I am very comfortable asking questions and asking for help. I have rooted my cellphone as well (invoking a bit more risk... since if I brick the tablet I am out $100, the phone costs more to replace plus I lose cellphone access for a while). In fact, some times I actually enjoy the process (uh oh... am I becoming a "flashaholic?" :laugh: ).
If you aren't (comfortable with computers, able to follow directions, willing to ask questions and get help)... I'd suggest spending a bit more (eg $200) and getting the Nexus7, or a sale on a current name brand Android tablet, or a IPad Mini. That way you get a currently supported product and still have all the positives without risk. My wife has an old Apple tablet and it simply works (and works simply). My daughters can help her if she needs to download an app, or figure out how to reset something. She doesn't have to search through different web sites, bulletin boards, and exchanges postings to get info, answers, or help. She doesn't have to reboot, reflash ROMs or Nandroids, or download app tools to resolve issues. Sure, there are things she can't do... but most of the time, she gives me a look and asks "Why would I want to do that anyway?".
Sorry if this was a babble... but I sometimes take the different view... hopefully it helps.

Just pickup a second one 32G Mint condition for my Mom $125 4 hours ago. It's still a great buy for a cheap tablet. I picked up from a daddy selling for his lil girl to exchange the Ipad Mini, there is no Android on it and like brand new, no cracked around speakers. Just put in CM9 Nightlife and running so smooth.

in my opinion, if you know how to update and maintain your Hp touchpad, it's a great bargain. Otherwise, you will be stuck at some points. I'm a read and follow person, I read and do carefully what the instructions tell me to do so all of my android devices are great , thanks to XDA

For $100-150,touchpad is the best choice for tablet.
But you really need to spend time on it. Search, post, download , flash...you have to send quite some time on it and may also encounter issues. But it is smooth , elegant, and full of support from best developers in the world!
Thanks to all developers , you make life with touchpad different!
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Still a great buy no doubt about it! I just picked up a 32gb one about a week ago for $150 and I'm extremely happy with it, running really smooth on CM10 JB 4.1.2 plus having a blast with the tablet remote app!
As long as you know how to flash go for it.... :good:
Thanks to all the developers hard work we can all enjoy what they do (greatly appreciated).
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I was thinking of geting my wife a nexus 7. i know she would love a bigger screen. but with that said do the cm9 cm10 roms have any big issues. she uses it to play alot of games check facebook surf the web. she definately needs something that runs fast and smooth. We have had dual core phones and have used single core 1ghz tablets. The single core is fine for our kids but they just seem slow loading to us. Would i have this problem with touchpad

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I was thinking of geting my wife a nexus 7. i know she would love a bigger screen. but with that said do the cm9 cm10 roms have any big issues. she uses it to play alot of games check facebook surf the web. she definately needs something that runs fast and smooth. We have had dual core phones and have used single core 1ghz tablets. The single core is fine for our kids but they just seem slow loading to us. Would i have this problem with touchpad
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I never tried CM9 but running CM10 and have no complaints streaming movies, music, games and web experience it's all smooth as butter!

Moving from TF700 to TF701

I have had a TF700 for exactly 1 year and 2 months, but two weeks ago the motherboard got fried due to my stupidity and I decided I needed a new tablet. The 700 CROMIX served me well and it had done everything I wanted it to with a few frustration.
I looked at the Samsungs, Kindles, Google Nexus 10, and the TF701. After a week of looking at all these I decided that
- Samsung was too expensive. Nice machines, but I was just not willing to pay the difference
- Kindles are also nice but a little small for me and I felt like I would always be fighting the Amazon controls they put on the device. HW wise it was the lightest machine with the best screen.
- Google Nexus 10 seemed a little too similar to the 701 and it had a little lesser specs (CPU and no MicroSD). Maybe I would wait for the NEW version, but it did not look like it is coming anytime soon (hopefully summer) and my guess is that it will be in the $500+ range
- So since the 701 has a better screen, better CPU, and very attractive price ($359 at amazon), I decided to go with it
Got the tablet and really did not wait: Upgraded to 4.3, Unlocked the bootloader, and installed CROMiX 6.0.1a on it. 20 minutes and I was good to go. I was really surprised how much faster than my 700 it is. I knew that the 1.9MHZ is better than the 700's 1.6 but I had the 700 overclocked and with the increased resolution, I expected they would be close. But the performance difference is really noticeable. I cannot comment on CROMiX vs the Stock in terms of how much the performance improvement is the optimized ROM because I did not really run the stock long enough. But this thing just flies. Boat browser with flash works great. My 16GB MicroSD worked great, the restore from Titanium worked great. My Nova settings were there and worked without trouble. Netflix does not stutter at all or Google movies or Mx Player. The battery was horrible after my first charge (lasted less than 8 hours) but also I was messing with it the whole time. After that, it looks like it goes about 2.5-3 hours per 1% in sleep and I would say it is a bit better than my 700 while on. The ROM has a "reading mode" that seems to slow down battery consumption while reading my Kindle app, but I am not sure how much better it is.
Just wanted to share my experiences with the TF701. Not saying it is the best machine out there, but for the price, I am very happy and cannot imagine the added cost for the other models would buy me that much. All the features of the 700 with the added performance and better screen. Very happy.

jhermit said:
I have had a TF700 for exactly 1 year and 2 months, but two weeks ago the motherboard got fried due to my stupidity and I decided I needed a new tablet. The 700 CROMIX served me well and it had done everything I wanted it to with a few frustration.
I looked at the Samsungs, Kindles, Google Nexus 10, and the TF701. After a week of looking at all these I decided that
- Samsung was too expensive. Nice machines, but I was just not willing to pay the difference
- Kindles are also nice but a little small for me and I felt like I would always be fighting the Amazon controls they put on the device. HW wise it was the lightest machine with the best screen.
- Google Nexus 10 seemed a little too similar to the 701 and it had a little lesser specs (CPU and no MicroSD). Maybe I would wait for the NEW version, but it did not look like it is coming anytime soon (hopefully summer) and my guess is that it will be in the $500+ range
- So since the 701 has a better screen, better CPU, and very attractive price ($359 at amazon), I decided to go with it
Got the tablet and really did not wait: Upgraded to 4.3, Unlocked the bootloader, and installed CROMiX 6.0.1a on it. 20 minutes and I was good to go. I was really surprised how much faster than my 700 it is. I knew that the 1.9MHZ is better than the 700's 1.6 but I had the 700 overclocked and with the increased resolution, I expected they would be close. But the performance difference is really noticeable. I cannot comment on CROMiX vs the Stock in terms of how much the performance improvement is the optimized ROM because I did not really run the stock long enough. But this thing just flies. Boat browser with flash works great. My 16GB MicroSD worked great, the restore from Titanium worked great. My Nova settings were there and worked without trouble. Netflix does not stutter at all or Google movies or Mx Player. The battery was horrible after my first charge (lasted less than 8 hours) but also I was messing with it the whole time. After that, it looks like it goes about 2.5-3 hours per 1% in sleep and I would say it is a bit better than my 700 while on. The ROM has a "reading mode" that seems to slow down battery consumption while reading my Kindle app, but I am not sure how much better it is.
Just wanted to share my experiences with the TF701. Not saying it is the best machine out there, but for the price, I am very happy and cannot imagine the added cost for the other models would buy me that much. All the features of the 700 with the added performance and better screen. Very happy.
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Nice report! I have the same experience but I still love my TF700.

sbdags said:
Nice report! I have the same experience but I still love my TF700.
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Yes, I probably would have lived OK with the TF700 for a while, but I am glad I fried it
BTW, Thanks for CROMiX... It is a really nice piece of work! Sending a couple of six packs your way...

jhermit said:
Yes, I probably would have lived OK with the TF700 for a while, but I am glad I fried it
BTW, Thanks for CROMiX... It is a really nice piece of work! Sending a couple of six packs your way...
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Wow! Many thanks for the donation! That is very kind of you.
Cheers! :highfive: :good:

My last tablet was the TF101 so I cant complain. My reasoning was the same as jhermit. Its the 701 just happens to be the one. With its high resolution, reflections, and so on. A good buy. The Samsung was the white one everywhere. Otherwise I would have gotten it. The white color really through me off of buying it. Can't figure that one out.

The TF701T keeps dropping in price, it may be the one to get.
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I also have upgraded and have a few thoughts to add.
1. The docking station is all plastic, where the tf700t was metal. The plastic seems cheaper and typing and using the touchpad sounds plasticy, but the keyboard does type a bit easier.
2. The USB port on the base station is very very tight. I feel like I'm going to break it when I'm inserting and removing plugs.
3. The lack of vibration in the tablet is a bit of a let-down. I would have preferred to have the option.
4. The Micro USB port on the tablet is very tight and hard to get a card back out. It might be specific to my unit, but it's still an issue for me.
5. There are better brightness and performance options on the tf700t, but that may be part of the older OS as well.
6. The tablet dock hings has a lot more play/wobble in it. I read elsewhere that this was a design reason but it's floppy when I'm carrying the tablet around with the screen open.
7. Chrome was brutally bad on the tf700t; laggy, slow to load things, etc on both stock and custom ROMs. It appears that the extra horsepower in the tf701t has taken care of that problem.
So far so good on the custom ROM with xposed framework settings. I've restored all settings using Titanium Backup and am happy with it so far.

I got the TF701 a couple days ago (no keyboard) and it's great, I see no down side at all yet and I still have the TF700 running better than it ever has with Crombi-kk. [emoji41]
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I'm thinking of getting this too but I can't figure out why the supposed upgrade to my tf700 actually decreased its camera resolution. Sigh. Any feedback on the camera diffrence?
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pipopipz said:
I'm thinking of getting this too but I can't figure out why the supposed upgrade to my tf700 actually decreased its camera resolution. Sigh. Any feedback on the camera diffrence?
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Never used a camera on a tablet, ever, so I couldn't tell you but everything else is better.

I don't use the camera either. I'm sure a very high percentage of buyers don't either. Not a selling point for me.
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xRevilatioNx said:
I don't use the camera either. I'm sure a very high percentage of buyers don't either. Not a selling point for me.
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I don't use the camera on the tablet that much too but for a supposed upgrade of a particular model, one wouldn't expect specs to scale back right? At least stay as is if not increase spec.
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pipopipz said:
I don't use the camera on the tablet that much too but for a supposed upgrade of a particular model, one wouldn't expect specs to scale back right? At least stay as is if not increase spec.
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If you are going to keep costs down why not go cheaper on the one part 99% of users will never use Seriously who uses the back camera on their tablet?

sbdags said:
If you are going to keep costs down why not go cheaper on the one part 99% of users will never use Seriously who uses the back camera on their tablet?
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You would be surprised......
Take a trip to a top tourist destination, marvel and cringe!
I work in tourism and I see more of them every month! And all of them look utterly, totally stupid if you ask me.
The only thing worse are telescopic extensions handles for the iPhone with some kind of trigger build into it's handle to take pictures and videos. Saw about a dozen of those **** in Las Vegas the other night. And for some reason I'm totally convinced that 99.9% of those pictures land in the recycling bin.... Or they should....

loner. said:
I got the TF701 a couple days ago (no keyboard) and it's great, I see no down side at all yet and I still have the TF700 running better than it ever has with Crombi-kk. [emoji41]
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Just a quick question, will the TF701T Tablet work with the Keyboard Dock from the TF700T ??

Sidewindr said:
Just a quick question, will the TF701T Tablet work with the Keyboard Dock from the TF700T ??
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Unfortunately not - they have different connectors.

No, connection differs, keyboard as well as charger and datacables differ.
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pelago said:
Unfortunately not - they have different connectors.
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No, connection differs, keyboard as well as charger and datacables differ.
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Actually that kind of makes sense as the 701 has USB3.0 on the KBD Dock.

Currently on a TF201
I'm currently on a TF201 Transformer Prime that I've had for about two years now. I't currently running Crombi-KK quite nicely but...I'm looking for something else. I've pretty much narrowed things down to either a Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 or the TF 701. There aren't a lot of reviews out there on the Tegra 4 based devices while of course the Enyos 5420 in the Galaxy tab is unique to Samsung. Have any of you had the opportunity to try both devices? Has anyone had an opportunity to use both a Tegra 4 (like the TF701) and a Snapdragon 800 based device. what little I'm finding seems to say that performance wise it would be 1. snapdragon 800, 2. Enyos 5420 and 3. tegra 4 ....but also that the differences aren't that great???
Right now I'm seeing the TF701 on Amazon for $354 and the Samsung for $399 so the prices are not that far off. On the other hand I always loved the keyboard dock on my Prime and with the TF701 I could have that again...for $130 on Amazon taking the total cost to $484. Of course with the Samsung I'd probably end up with some sort of Bluetooth keyboard, so in the end, when the accessories I would want are factored in, they cost about the same. (EDIT: I see that the Samsung is only 16 GB storage while the Asus is 32 - advantage Asus except that the Samsung has a micro SD slot and I've got a couple of 64 GB Sandisk Ultras kicking around so that probably isn't critical)
On the pro side the Asus is known unlockable (correct me if I'm wrong) where the Samsung probably isn't??? With my Prime, I stuck with it locked until the warranty ran out then unlocked it and put Hairy Bean on it and more recently Crombi-KK. So having those options available for the future is also a plus.
On the down side, as much as I have loved my Prime, its always had some annoyances. My WiFi was never as bad as others complain of but its never been great either. Sitting in my living room with my router almost directly under me on the floor below, my Motorola phone and my wife's HP laptop get right around the full 30 Mbps we have incoming from our ISP. My prime gets 8 - 10 Mbps which should be adequate most of the time except...the lag loading web pages. Hariy Bean and now Crombi-KK seem to improve things, but my phone (Morotrola Droid Maxx on Android 4.4) is still way smoother. Of course the GPS never really worked very well - which would be a big problem for me on a phone but not such a big deal on the tablet. Has Asus managed to correct those things on the TF701? While the Tegra 4 sounds good, I wouldn't want to have a tablet where they just stuck a faster CPU in the same old device.
Guess what I'm really looking for is a new Transformer Prime that's both faster and corrects all the annoyances I've had with the TF201. Does the TF 701 accomplish that? Given that the Samsung is about the same price when I include the accessories I want, does that change your opinion?

ratman6161 said:
I'm currently on a TF201 Transformer Prime that I've had for about two years now. I't currently running Crombi-KK quite nicely but...I'm looking for something else. I've pretty much narrowed things down to either a Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 or the TF 701. There aren't a lot of reviews out there on the Tegra 4 based devices while of course the Enyos 5420 in the Galaxy tab is unique to Samsung. Have any of you had the opportunity to try both devices? Has anyone had an opportunity to use both a Tegra 4 (like the TF701) and a Snapdragon 800 based device. what little I'm finding seems to say that performance wise it would be 1. snapdragon 800, 2. Enyos 5420 and 3. tegra 4 ....but also that the differences aren't that great???
Right now I'm seeing the TF701 on Amazon for $354 and the Samsung for $399 so the prices are not that far off. On the other hand I always loved the keyboard dock on my Prime and with the TF701 I could have that again...for $130 on Amazon taking the total cost to $484. Of course with the Samsung I'd probably end up with some sort of Bluetooth keyboard, so in the end, when the accessories I would want are factored in, they cost about the same. (EDIT: I see that the Samsung is only 16 GB storage while the Asus is 32 - advantage Asus except that the Samsung has a micro SD slot and I've got a couple of 64 GB Sandisk Ultras kicking around so that probably isn't critical)
On the pro side the Asus is known unlockable (correct me if I'm wrong) where the Samsung probably isn't??? With my Prime, I stuck with it locked until the warranty ran out then unlocked it and put Hairy Bean on it and more recently Crombi-KK. So having those options available for the future is also a plus.
On the down side, as much as I have loved my Prime, its always had some annoyances. My WiFi was never as bad as others complain of but its never been great either. Sitting in my living room with my router almost directly under me on the floor below, my Motorola phone and my wife's HP laptop get right around the full 30 Mbps we have incoming from our ISP. My prime gets 8 - 10 Mbps which should be adequate most of the time except...the lag loading web pages. Hariy Bean and now Crombi-KK seem to improve things, but my phone (Morotrola Droid Maxx on Android 4.4) is still way smoother. Of course the GPS never really worked very well - which would be a big problem for me on a phone but not such a big deal on the tablet. Has Asus managed to correct those things on the TF701? While the Tegra 4 sounds good, I wouldn't want to have a tablet where they just stuck a faster CPU in the same old device.
Guess what I'm really looking for is a new Transformer Prime that's both faster and corrects all the annoyances I've had with the TF201. Does the TF 701 accomplish that? Given that the Samsung is about the same price when I include the accessories I want, does that change your opinion?
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Just go ahead and choose the TF701! I did not have older asus tablets, but from the comments I have read since this forum was launched, all the issues that older Asus tablets had were solved. However, I would advise you to make sure that the keyboard you are going to buy is built recently ( ??/2014). Some people are experiencing disconnections between the dock and the tablet. For me I have a 09/2013 build but fortunately everything works as it should