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Hi, dear developers, did you all buy the dev phones from google? will the price cheaper buying it this way?
And since recently the Nexus One is rumored to be the next dev phone, I'd like to know if you guys can purchase it from google now? And what is (would be) the price if it's available?
Price is 529, and it is the next dev phone and yes you can purchase it now.
Thanks a lot for the information.
What is your feeling for this phone? Seems it's not as competitive as the newer phones right now. In the last one or two months there are so many new android phones out.
If you want to make Froyo rom or apps for Froyo, is it a good fit?
Anything is possible, it's up to you, your choice. It's up to you if you're willing to put 529 for it, but a lot of developers do have this phone, just look at the Nexus section here. But I won't pay 500 bucks for something I can't see before buying (that's whole another story). And the N1 will be the first to get any new Android updates in the future, cause it's Google's baby. It's up to you now.
The "dev" phone is an unlocked nexus 1, nothing more nothing less. The last dev phone was the Ion/G1. Do you want a nexus 1? Do you have $529 to waste on a phone that you dont really need to use as a dev phone?
Simple questions to ask yourself.
The "dev phone" is a regular, bone stock, GN1. No difference. Bootloader IS LOCKED exactly the same as it always was, and it still accepts "fastboot oem unlock". Note that the warranty details DO NOT in ANY WAY suggest that doing so will affect the warranty IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER, which some people MISTAKENLY thought was previously part of the warranty, where it was actually just in the FAQ designed to prevent dummies from screwing themselves up.
I lost my current phone if it matter?
I know how you feel.
It would be pretty awful to lay out the money or lock into a contract only to hear info about a new device next week...
Would also like to know if there a re any rumours although I would be surprised if anything was released this soon. Would be a bit unfair on current WP7 users.
it always depands on you... how much u need a phone, and what phone you are looking at...
those models which will be launched in CES should be leaked by now...
i am using HD7 since launch and i cant be more happy with the device... i came from TP2 and i was looking for a Keyboard device, but there were none, so i got the biggest screen and it took me some time to get used to the on screen keyboard but now i am flying...
why HD7 as HTC is THE COMPANY which only makes PDA... i will looking at dell venue pro as well, however it has so many issues and its not even sold in asia...
truffle1234 said:
it always depands on you... how much u need a phone, and what phone you are looking at...
those models which will be launched in CES should be leaked by now...
i am using HD7 since launch and i cant be more happy with the device... i came from TP2 and i was looking for a Keyboard device, but there were none, so i got the biggest screen and it took me some time to get used to the on screen keyboard but now i am flying...
why HD7 as HTC is THE COMPANY which only makes PDA... i will looking at dell venue pro as well, however it has so many issues and its not even sold in asia...
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It is sold in Asia, at least in India it is. BTW, I had a few questions....apart from all the GOOD things...i wanted to know if I buy it in India, will I get everything working...like the HTC Hub, the (lovely) weather tab, the (beautiful) Zune Music PLayer with the Artist pics in the background...etc...any help is appreciated...
i'd wait last thing you want to do is by hd7 only for some super ameoled dual core super w7phone to be announced
CES is two days away. Wait.
Yes, wait. Then maybe in three months or some they will release new device that was presented there and when they do, new phones will be presented. And then you will wait forever to get new phone. It's stupid to wait. World won't wait for you...
Niiceg said:
Yes, wait. Then maybe in three months or some they will release new device that was presented there and when they do, new phones will be presented. And then you will wait forever to get new phone. It's stupid to wait. World won't wait for you...
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This.
If you wait for CES you may aswell then wait a month for MWC
Then when something is finally released that was announced there, something else will be announced.
Then do you wait for that? Because if you do something else will be announced when that's released...
@ OP
why opened two thread for same discussion?????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10303180&postcount=1
You could wait, but just because a phone is announced at the CES doesn't mean you can get it next week..(you say you lost your phone op )
I believe a GalaxyS phone is coming on Tmobile soon (like the Samsung Focus on ATT). Super Amoled screen, hummingbird and thinner/lighter phone on a more realistic size (4" is better than anything bigger IMO)
If CES is in two days, well lets see if that phone is announced, ATT just dropped the Focus price to half (now $99) I am assuming to take out the fanfare associated with the other carriers bringing out their versions. ATT did screw the pooch by not advertizing the Focus at all.
GalaxyS has been available through TMO for some time now. It just goes by the name Vibrant.
http://www.facebook.com/motorola?sk=wall&filter=1 click the link people like it and comment on it.
I have seen first hand proof of this working. I had an evo 3d. Htc decided all futre devices would have locked bootliaders well that made alot of people angry. Someone posted a thread on xda suggesting we let htc know that is not gna fly. So it turnd out thousands of people got on there facebook wall and twitter. Guess what the next day htc released a statement saying that they wanted too keep there coustamers happy and that the bootloader would be unlocked. They were. Id like to be able too have a device and not have too get a new one juzt because moto or htc or sammy wants too put them out constantly get people too buy them and then ditch them and out out another. The atrix is 100 percent capable of runing ics and theres no excuae for it l not too recieve it just because moto wants people too buy new devices every couple months. I know many many people feel the same way well as i said we have the power too change that if people would stop bickering and take it seriously. And also if moto started supporting devices longer not just bug fixes but the new android flavors. Id definately make my next device a moto it would do nothing but benefit them
Why are we discussing/petitioning something that we don't know? Has it been set in stone that manufacturers will not support us anymore or is this all stemming from paranoia?
Because it is the trend. And the atrix 2 has been released already. All the manufactures with the exception of sammy have been doing this more and more lately abandoning. Devices. And pumping out new ones. At a very fast pace
So you are saying they are not going to support the atrix anymore since they released the atrix 2? I'd rather wait till this actually happens before i draw a conclusion. e.g. when ICS gets released and they say they are not going to update the atrix.
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So you are saying they are not going to support the atrix anymore since they released the atrix 2? I'd rather wait till this actually happens before i draw a conclusion. e.g. when ICS gets released and they say they are not going to update the atrix.
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Look at the original Incredible.
My wife's one has been turned to **** since the 2.3.4 update, and nothing from HTC, and Verizon pretty much said too bad so sad. Buy another phone or deal with it.
So yes, support will be dropped for older models whether you like to assumed it or not.
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Look at the original Incredible.
My wife's one has been turned to **** since the 2.3.4 update, and nothing from HTC, and Verizon pretty much said too bad so sad. Buy another phone or deal with it.
So yes, support will be dropped for older models whether you like to assumed it or not.
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No it is obvious support is going to be dropped for old models. But he is implying that models released this year will not get support.
I think for every $10 a phone costs over $50 on launch day (on contract) is how many months it should be updated for. So a $300 phone should be kept updated for 25 months. So this would either keep phone prices lower or keep them updated.
Facebook is a poor way of getting the attention of corporations. You want them to change? Buy a nexus phone. Money talks.
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No it is obvious support is going to be dropped for old models. But he is implying that models released this year will not get support.
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I think ICS only has support for Armv7 currently, so phones with those SoCs will get updated. However, phones using custom UIs will experience a longer waiting time, maybe around early Q1 of 2012. HTC has released like 1000 phones in the last few months and I doubt most will get ICS soon, not sure if Moto will bother at all. But it might be better to wait and actually see what goes down, like you said.
Has HTC in fact locked a boot loader or withheld hardware drivers?
I intend for my next phone to be HTC just because of the hell Samsung put us though trying to get GB on the i9000.
Handsome Rob said:
Has HTC in fact locked a boot loader or withheld hardware drivers?
I intend for my next phone to be HTC just because of the hell Samsung put us though trying to get GB on the i9000.
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HTC new phones i believe i read come locked.
You can unlock them direct with HTC, but you loose all warranty. As per HTC.
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HTC new phones i believe i read come locked.
You can unlock them direct with HTC, but you loose all warranty. As per HTC.
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As I understand it, you lose all ROM related warranty, so for instance if your screen fails then you're still covered.
Motorola unlocking bootloaders ??
you should check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316722
I had a motorola xt720.... not the best phone..but was ok. Motorola decided to stop supporting it within 4 months of launch or something stupid like that. No new updates no nothing. And still insisted on the bootloader staying locked so the dev's found it alot harder to do their job for them.
I will never ever buy a motorola product again.
The market is fairly competitive ... don't buy from companies that pull this crap
Hey all,
Never thought I would say this, but I am REALLY happy with with my HTC One, after being an iPhoner for the past 5 years. Sure it has some minor niggles, but I am really pleased with it. And I love the fact that I can easily tinker with it.
My only concern is will the HTC One support Android 5.0 when it comes out? I have read horror stories of HTC discontinuing support for some of their phones after less than 18 months!
(My first post since joining seven years ago! This brings new meaning to lurker
Thanks,
loiphin.
Congratulations to your decision to come to Android
Android 5.0 isn't even announced so why bothering about it yet?
18 months is pretty long to support a device xD HTC is producing many phones per year, we can't force them to support every phone until eternity Besides that it's not very economically for business.
You can root and flash your phone to have the newest versions when official support ended.
Sent from my HTC One
loiphin said:
Hey all,
Never thought I would say this, but I am REALLY happy with with my HTC One, after being an iPhoner for the past 5 years. Sure it has some minor niggles, but I am really pleased with it. And I love the fact that I can easily tinker with it.
My only concern is will the HTC One support Android 5.0 when it comes out? I have read horror stories of HTC discontinuing support for some of their phones after less than 18 months!
(My first post since joining seven years ago! This brings new meaning to lurker
Thanks,
loiphin.
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R U really planning to use this phone more than 18-24 months?
im looking forward to the "NEXT" HTC ONE
Most people here probably get a new phone every 6 months or so, so 18 months is plenty of time
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R U really planning to use this phone more than 18-24 months?
im looking forward to the "NEXT" HTC ONE
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I used my desire for 3 1/2 years and plan to use the One that long too But still (to OP): You can't ask for supporting a device for that long.
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I'm a previous iPhone user and tbh Apple aren't much different. You get 2, maybe 3 years of support before you start getting no update support or you lose half of the new features anyway because they aren't compatible with older devices so it really isn't much different with HTC ... The worst IMO for support are Sony. I had an Xperia Ray and they promised at least 2 years support at the time I purchased it and it received 1 update and it's stuck on 4.0.3 I believe to this day.
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I'm a previous iPhone user and tbh Apple aren't much different. You get 2, maybe 3 years of support before you start getting no update support or you lose half of the new features anyway because they aren't compatible with older devices so it really isn't much different with HTC ... The worst IMO for support are Sony. I had an Xperia Ray and they promised at least 2 years support at the time I purchased it and it received 1 update and it's stuck on 4.0.3 I believe to this day.
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I'm not well-known to iPhones but you won't get 2 or 3 years official support (= updates) at HTC or any other manufacturer
I remember the time with my HTC Desire (bought it unbranded), which was a flagship long time ago xD (2010). I bought it immediately when released with Eclair 2.1. It was updated to Froyo 2.2 and everybody was happy HTC promised an update to Gingerbread 2.3 but then cancelled this plan. Because of very annoyed customers they rolled out Gingerbread 2.3, but left out many features (as of less internal memory) and recommended the update only to developers (it was not accessible through software update function on the phone). The Desire was THE phone but only got this amount of support (I guess it was one year?) ... So we can't expect much more for HTC One
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18-24 months seems about typical for HTC. It's worse if you're on a US carrier; they tend to abandon you after 18 months at best. I got a One XL on AT&T last May, and as far as I know, it's not getting 4.2 (mine is actually dead, but the update doesn't appear to be coming anyway).
Apple supports its phones longer, but its a bit deceptive since they don't give older phones all the features of the latest one. So you'll be on the newest version number but won't really have a complete update. With Android, you usually get everything, which is why older handset stop getting updated sooner.
You won't have to worry about software-related support if you learn how to root your phone. I had an iPhone for a few years myself before jumping to Android with the One, and I couldn't be happier. Fantastic phone.
Learning to root can seem daunting at first (actually, it IS daunting at first :cyclops: ), but it is so, so, so worth it. Not having to depend on the carriers or the factory for the latest updates is a great feeling.
First of all, if you are someone who enjoys tinkering with phones and gadgets(in other words a geek) you are going to have a blast now that you're on htc/android. The opportunities are endless. And one additional thing, you are in the right place(XDA) for doing that.
Second, I dunno about you but in my country android phones come cheaper than the latest iPhone in stores(even the flagships). So upgrading phones every year or so is a common not-too-expensive thing for android folks.
Welcome to the community and enjoy your One!
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
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Hey all,
Never thought I would say this, but I am REALLY happy with with my HTC One, after being an iPhoner for the past 5 years. Sure it has some minor niggles, but I am really pleased with it. And I love the fact that I can easily tinker with it.
My only concern is will the HTC One support Android 5.0 when it comes out? I have read horror stories of HTC discontinuing support for some of their phones after less than 18 months!
(My first post since joining seven years ago! This brings new meaning to lurker
Thanks,
loiphin.
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If android 5 is released September/October as rumours suggest then we may well see it from HTC for the 'One'
One thing I can guarantee though is that the guys here on XDA will certainly be building roms on 5
If you can think of something u want the one to do or b like chances it's been thought of these aren't iPhones android is run by people or devs for each Rom. Once u learn how to flash rims and kernels updates will b a thing of the past
Viper121,.elemental it's mental.
I've no plans to get another phone until next year at least, I'm extremely happy with my One like no other phone.
KLP - Key Lime Pie should be released this year so I'd highly imagine HTC will upgrade their flagship phone to it but I'll just have a custom ROM anyway way before any official HTC One is released so not applicable to me
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Even if we aren't supported by HTC, that doesn't mean all the devs will have up and left us. Someone will port Android 5.0 and maybe even more. We will definitely get many aosp ports and a few newer sense versions. Don't worry about that.
Sent from my HTC One
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I'm not well-known to iPhones but you won't get 2 or 3 years official support (= updates) at HTC or any other manufacturer
I remember the time with my HTC Desire (bought it unbranded), which was a flagship long time ago xD (2010). I bought it immediately when released with Eclair 2.1. It was updated to Froyo 2.2 and everybody was happy HTC promised an update to Gingerbread 2.3 but then cancelled this plan. Because of very annoyed customers they rolled out Gingerbread 2.3, but left out many features (as of less internal memory) and recommended the update only to developers (it was not accessible through software update function on the phone). The Desire was THE phone but only got this amount of support (I guess it was one year?) ... So we can't expect much more for HTC One
Sent from my HTC One
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I said 2-3 years, tops, 18-24 months for the One really isn't that much less that 2 years is it?
Howdy, folks.
I've been an HTC owner for many years (Tilt, HD2, Inspire, M8 now a 10), but my HTC10 is showing it's age and they don't have much to offer me right now. So I'm thinking of a Samsung, One+ or Huawei phone. Your insight on a couple things would help.
How important is it to buy an unlocked phone? I've been an AT&T customer for over a decade and really don't have a reason to switch. However, I may have occasion to travel overseas in the near future - likely the EU somewhere.
Which rooting method is recommended, and what side effects does it have? I'm a noob to Samsung, though I've unlocked and rooted every HTC phone I've owned, and every time it's affected speaker volume and possibly other optimizations.
Is it better to get an International version or should I stick with a US version? I'm out of contract with AT&T for a long time, so I don't necessarily need to buy from them, I can source from any seller.
Can you recommend a good reseller? I'm looking for a first quality phone with warranty. But like everyone else, I'd like to find a deal. I'm a member at Costco, but should I be looking elsewhere, say to Amazon or others?
Thanks in advance for your help!