hey all
its about 1 month since i started to search what my new smart phone (my first actually) should be.....now the last battle is between xperia z and lumia 920.....i hate that there rnt many videos about them together on YouTube....i just have 2 points to ask about....screen and processor....i know that u will say Z is HD and 441 PPI 5 inch..........and lumia is 4.5 .HD and so........i know it i just want some1 who tried both is there rly big difference in the display?.....the same about processor..Big difference?.......i saw the theoritical way....i need to hear about ur practice ^_^
BTW i cant try both phones as neither of them is in my city......thats why iam asking u Friends ^_^
thanks in advance
abokorayem said:
hey all
its about 1 month since i started to search what my new smart phone (my first actually) should be.....now the last battle is between xperia z and lumia 920.....i hate that there rnt many videos about them together on YouTube....i just have 2 points to ask about....screen and processor....i know that u will say Z is HD and 441 PPI 5 inch..........and lumia is 4.5 .HD and so........i know it i just want some1 who tried both is there rly big difference in the display?.....the same about processor..Big difference?.......i saw the theoritical way....i need to hear about ur practice ^_^
BTW i cant try both phones as neither of them is in my city......thats why iam asking u Friends ^_^
thanks in advance
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I tried both. The 920 is good but the system (Windows Mobile) it's running on is a complete disaster (Lack of apps, ugly UI, etc). It's build and design is also nothing less than pathetic in comparison to the Z. You won't notice a big difference in the pixel density unless you put your eyes very close to the display but I would still side with the Z because if a dead pixel arises, it will much harder to notice it on the Z, since its display is much more densely packed with them. The processor is also superior on the Z but what the 920 has, will suffice for most tasks aside from the newest and latest games (Once again, the Z wins here because it's more future-proof).
On a side notice, could you try to write nicer next time, the use of shorthand is annoying.
Traczyk said:
I tried both. The 920 is good but the system (Windows Mobile) it's running on is a complete disaster (Lack of apps, ugly UI, etc). It's build and design is also nothing less than pathetic in comparison to the Z. You won't notice a big difference in the pixel density unless you put your eyes very close to the display but I would still side with the Z because if a dead pixel arises, it will much harder to notice it on the Z, since its display is much more densely packed with them. The processor is also superior on the Z but what the 920 has, will suffice for most tasks aside from the newest and latest games (Once again, the Z wins here because it's more future-proof).
On a side notice, could you try to write nicer next time, the use of shorthand is annoying.
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thanks 4 ur help
just a question.....if i didnt know that xperia z is quad and lumia is dual....would i notice that in performance?
about WP 8 i actually love it .....llack of apps will be fixed gradually...and i heard that xperia z lags more than lumia 920..true?.............and what about battery life?
thanks in advance
abokorayem said:
thanks 4 ur help
just a question.....if i didnt know that xperia z is quad and lumia is dual....would i notice that in performance?
about WP 8 i actually love it .....llack of apps will be fixed gradually...and i heard that xperia z lags more than lumia 920..true?.............and what about battery life?
thanks in advance
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quad and dual are very noticible.. quad can fast proccesing in apps,ofcors its quad, ull notice that on dual core. u might take catching up sometime when opening an app.. (windows phone for me not that useable by my daily basis).. im using ZL same specs in Z.. i dont have any problems with it.. my suggestion is use Z.. battery life so far not an issue anyways.. its on how you use ur phone..
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quad and dual are very noticible.. quad can fast proccesing in apps,ofcors its quad, ull notice that on dual core. u might take catching up sometime when opening an app.. (windows phone for me not that useable by my daily basis).. im using ZL same specs in Z.. i dont have any problems with it.. my suggestion is use Z.. battery life so far not an issue anyways.. its on how you use ur phone..
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thanks 4 ur reply but about processor let me agree and disagree aswell..........dual vs quad ofcourse quad wins but lumia runs WP8 with no lags at all....in some vids that i watched on Youtube i saw that devices with Quad core as Xperia z and With Android just lags a bit....they said something about adware..malware wich slows android down
abokorayem said:
thanks 4 ur reply but about processor let me agree and disagree aswell..........dual vs quad ofcourse quad wins but lumia runs WP8 with no lags at all....in some vids that i watched on Youtube i saw that devices with Quad core as Xperia z and With Android just lags a bit....they said something about adware..malware wich slows android down
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Yes,as my friend using wp8 i used it for a few minutes,my observation is the the os is light,very minimal use of processing,i agree aswell,but for having quad im sure it helps fast speed, ofcors by the help of ram to take effect.. Quad integrates on multi tasking and as what i say,ram is there to help.. And it boils to what you comfortably using.. Lets keep this thread very useful. On some other threads comparing etc. Is been lockdown..
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julianalexander said:
Yes,as my friend using wp8 i used it for a few minutes,my observation is the the os is light,very minimal use of processing,i agree aswell,but for having quad im sure it helps fast speed, ofcors by the help of ram to take effect.. Quad integrates on multi tasking and as what i say,ram is there to help.. And it boils to what you comfortably using.. Lets keep this thread very useful. On some other threads comparing etc. Is been lockdown..
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I agree all the way with u but....i got something to say which will need confirmation from u
that this is : If iam not a gamer or care alot about heavy 3d games....Lumia 920 would match me more,right?
I mean camera...speakers....even display (bravia engine is only on in photos and vids while HD+ and pure motion r always on)
oh btw....after the buttons bar (the grey one) how large the screen is?4.8 inchs or what?
Thanks in advance
abokorayem said:
hey all
its about 1 month since i started to search what my new smart phone (my first actually) should be.....now the last battle is between xperia z and lumia 920.....i hate that there rnt many videos about them together on YouTube....i just have 2 points to ask about....screen and processor....i know that u will say Z is HD and 441 PPI 5 inch..........and lumia is 4.5 .HD and so........i know it i just want some1 who tried both is there rly big difference in the display?.....the same about processor..Big difference?.......i saw the theoritical way....i need to hear about ur practice ^_^
BTW i cant try both phones as neither of them is in my city......thats why iam asking u Friends ^_^
thanks in advance
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First of all let's compare both phones in spec.
You can check it here for more info: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4967&idPhone2=5204
But the most important features.
Screen:
Lumia 920: HD 1280x768 4.5" 332 ppi
Xperia Z: FULL HD 1920x0180 5" 441 ppi
There is quite a difference between full hd and hd also the ppi are much higher in the XZ, so the pictures/full hd videos will look much crisp on the XZ.
Weight
L920: 185 g (6.53 oz)
XZ: 146 g (5.15 oz)
The L920 is heavy, 40g more than the XZ. You will notice that
Memory / Storage
L920: 1Gb RAM / 32GB No sd-card slot
XZ: 2Gb Ram / 16GB Sd card slot
Ram depends on the OS and the usage. Storage is bigger on the L920 by default but no option to increase the storage.
Bluetooth
L920: 3.2
XZ: 4.0
If you use bluetooth a lot the 4.0 protocol is much reliable.
Camera:
L920: 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, Carl Zeiss optics, optical image stabilization, autofocus, dual-LED flash
XZ: 13.1 MP, 4128x3096 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
If I'm not wrong, L920 camera is much better in low light condition and in general terms.
OS
L920: Microsoft Windows Phone 8
XZ: Android OS, v4.1.2
Android has much more apps than WP8 in the market, the customization of android is endless (you can access file system, modify the whole rom, kernel) rather than in the wp8 is much more limited.
CPU / GPU
L920: Dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait / Adreno 225
XZ: Quad-core 1.5 GHz Krait /Adreno 320
Depends on OS and usage. Quad-core much faster than Dual-core.
Radio
L920 No
XZ: Stereo FM radio with RDS
If you need Radio FM, it's a no brainer. XZ has it, L920 doesn't. Obviously there is always Internet Radio that works using data mobile.
Battery:
L920: 2000mAh
XZ: 2330mAh
Price (SIM free):
L920: £399 Carphone Warehouse
XZ: £489 Carphone Warehouse
L920 is cheaper
Around the same battery life.
Right, now. Ask yourself this questions.
What are you going to use the phone for?
What is your budget?
Do you use app intensive taks? Playing heavy CPU/GPU intensive games?
Do you find useful the Water/Dust resistance on the XZ, (ie it's protected from rain, failing into water by accident)?
wawyed said:
First of all let's compare both phones in spec.
You can check it here for more info: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4967&idPhone2=5204
But the most important features.
Screen:
Lumia 920: HD 1280x768 4.5" 332 ppi
Xperia Z: FULL HD 1920x0180 5" 441 ppi
There is quite a difference between full hd and hd also the ppi are much higher in the XZ, so the pictures/full hd videos will look much crisp on the XZ.
Weight
L920: 185 g (6.53 oz)
XZ: 146 g (5.15 oz)
The L920 is heavy, 40g more than the XZ. You will notice that
Memory / Storage
L920: 1Gb RAM / 32GB No sd-card slot
XZ: 2Gb Ram / 16GB Sd card slot
Ram depends on the OS and the usage. Storage is bigger on the L920 by default but no option to increase the storage.
Bluetooth
L920: 3.2
XZ: 4.0
If you use bluetooth a lot the 4.0 protocol is much reliable.
Camera:
L920: 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, Carl Zeiss optics, optical image stabilization, autofocus, dual-LED flash
XZ: 13.1 MP, 4128x3096 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
If I'm not wrong, L920 camera is much better in low light condition and in general terms.
OS
L920: Microsoft Windows Phone 8
XZ: Android OS, v4.1.2
Android has much more apps than WP8 in the market, the customization of android is endless (you can access file system, modify the whole rom, kernel) rather than in the wp8 is much more limited.
CPU / GPU
L920: Dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait / Adreno 225
XZ: Quad-core 1.5 GHz Krait /Adreno 320
Depends on OS and usage. Quad-core much faster than Dual-core.
Radio
L920 No
XZ: Stereo FM radio with RDS
If you need Radio FM, it's a no brainer. XZ has it, L920 doesn't. Obviously there is always Internet Radio that works using data mobile.
Battery:
L920: 2000mAh
XZ: 2330mAh
Price (SIM free):
L920: £399 Carphone Warehouse
XZ: £489 Carphone Warehouse
L920 is cheaper
Around the same battery life.
Right, now. Ask yourself this questions.
What are you going to use the phone for?
What is your budget?
Do you use app intensive taks? Playing heavy CPU/GPU intensive games?
Do you find useful the Water/Dust resistance on the XZ, (ie it's protected from rain, failing into water by accident)?
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First of all, let me thank u 4 ur effort
secondly:about screen being Crisp or so...i heard that naked eye cant differentiate between both as if its higher than 300 PPI its almost the same
Iam not keen on gaming or so i will buy it mainly for reading e-books,taking pics and watching vids(not that much even)
About Water resistant....iam from a dry country...No rains for 3-4 years actually so it doesnt matter 4 me
abokorayem said:
First of all, let me thank u 4 ur effort
secondly:about screen being Crisp or so...i heard that naked eye cant differentiate between both as if its higher than 300 PPI its almost the same
Iam not keen on gaming or so i will buy it mainly for reading e-books,taking pics and watching vids(not that much even)
About Water resistant....iam from a dry country...No rains for 3-4 years actually so it doesnt matter 4 me
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Then zl is ur choice compromising the water resistant.. Even ur not gamer better specs still.. Use quad. Xperia z to say..
About the softkeys,theres a mod resizing that to 25 and black and depending what size u want. 48dpi is stock softkeys.. Lot of devlopers on z.
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abokorayem said:
First of all, let me thank u 4 ur effort
secondly:about screen being Crisp or so...i heard that naked eye cant differentiate between both as if its higher than 300 PPI its almost the same
Iam not keen on gaming or so i will buy it mainly for reading e-books,taking pics and watching vids(not that much even)
About Water resistant....iam from a dry country...No rains for 3-4 years actually so it doesnt matter 4 me
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Take into account that appart from the DPI, one is HD (720p) and the other is Full-HD (1080p), there is a difference between them. You will notice it while browsing a website and zooming to read, it will be much sharp in the XZ.
If you are going to read e-book you will find it more easier in a bigger screen, 5" vs 4.5" is quite a difference in screen size.
At the end of the day is a matter of preference, Android vs WP8. Right now I think Android is a better OS in terms of app and support. Also XZ has the technological advantage compared to the L920. For the price of both I would go for the XZ, personally. As someone said before, XZ is more future-proof, a Dual core and 720p is getting obsolete and 1gb ram is quite low imho. If you are not convinced with the XZ, there are other options: Samsung, HTC, LG.
The best thing to do is go to a shop and hold both at the same time, try most of the features and go for the one your guts tells you.
If I helped you, you could press the thanks button
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Take into account that appart from the DPI, one is HD (720p) and the other is Full-HD (1080p), there is a difference between them. You will notice it while browsing a website and zooming to read, it will be much sharp in the XZ.
If you are going to read e-book you will find it more easier in a bigger screen, 5" vs 4.5" is quite a difference in screen size.
At the end of the day is a matter of preference, Android vs WP8. Right now I think Android is a better OS in terms of app and support. Also XZ has the technological advantage compared to the L920. For the price of both I would go for the XZ, personally. As someone said before, XZ is more future-proof, a Dual core and 720p is getting obsolete and 1gb ram is quite low imho. If you are not convinced with the XZ, there are other options: Samsung, HTC, LG.
The best thing to do is go to a shop and hold both at the same time, try most of the features and go for the one your guts tells you.
If I helped you, you could press the thanks button
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already pressed thanks putton ^_^
what do u think of this
LG Optimus G LS970?
so xperia z or LG Optimus G LS970?
abokorayem said:
so xperia z or LG Optimus G LS970?
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After settling for 5 inch phone, I would never go for anything below it. I have seen the Optimus g is person . It's quite nice. If I'm not wrong the specs of Optimus g and xperia z is almost the same s4 pro quad core with 2 gb ram. Except it's not full hd like the xz and at a lower ppi 318 vs xz's 441. And no ip55/57 rating. The screen looks nice but I haven't tried reading on it. I just watch a video playback.
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so xperia z or LG Optimus G LS970?
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I had them both in my hand , my friend's LG and a co-worker had the Xperia... Personally I ordered the Xperia Z and waiting for it. It's much more solid built and I believe strongly in Sony , not to be the fanboy but ask around and everyone will tell you that LG will never be competion to Sony unless you want to spend less !!!
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Hello all.
First - sorry if i post a dump post in a wrong place. I hope it's okay .
Second - i'm considering buying a new phone. New = another one, not brand new, but used (it's cheaper this way .
I have 2 candidates for now:
Sony Xperia J
Samsung Galaxy S Plus
How do you people think, which phone is a better choice in the means of performance, quality and future development on xda ?
I ask for opinions like advantages/drawbacks, not "i like samsung, so buy samsung".
In this price range there are also: Xperia Miro/Tipo, Xperia U, HTC Rhyme, Desire C.
So, how do you people think ?
Helo bro...first of all i would recommend u dat u dont go xperia j. The reason is dat the processor is 1ghz and runs wid the gpu of adreno 200 which our x8 runs on. Secondly the midranged smartphone dat i would recommend is xperia u..it runs on dual core 1 ghz processor the same u would find in xperia p...the ram is also friendly 512mb... Lastly i think it depends on ur taste per se...every ones view is different..
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Thanks for a quick reply! I didn't know that U has dual core processor - i thought it's worse, because it has 'only 1ghz' and some stuff worse comparing to xperia J.
I'm waiting for next recommendations, this was a nice one!
I recommend Xperia U too.
But with U you actually should know these facts:
1-low battery backup ,comes with 1350 mah battery which can't feed your large screen & thirsty dual core processor. (White magic LCD can save 70% energy some times but it's not enough)
2- 12 gb user available memory which can be extended by sdcard. (U can use USB flash disk but it hard to handle & drains more power)
If don't play with your phone it's a perfect phone, stylish(won some rewards for design of 2012 phones)
I don't recommend galaxy advanced cause it's outdated & no official ics rom(+looking like s##t)
Think about Xperia P too
compare others at gsmarena.com
Sent From My BEAST , I mean X8
Hmm, 12gb is almost too much space for me, so it's not a problem!
And if the battery will last for at least 20h of using (1 day) this will be enough for me too.
I don't watch movies on phone and ocassionaly listen to some music or play a game, but mostly i use it to browse the web etc.
I will take a look at Xperia P.
Thanks! More replays are still very welcome!
Dont go for samsung galaxy s plus . my father has one and feels very cheap in hand the materials are cheap plastic.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
I'm currently thinking about the Xperia P. I thought Xperia U has a micro-sd card slot but i was wrong - and 4gb of storage withoth the possibility to extend it is a bit too little...
Xperia P is a little to expensive, though. I'll try to find it as cheap as possible, maybe i'll make it
Thanks for comments and don't hasitate to post another ones
EDIT:
i've ordered Sony Xperia U today! I will have to deal with 4gb only, but i hope i won't suffer too much . thanks for all the suggestions. cheers !
This thread can be closed, thanks!
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Hi guys.. right now I am about to buy a new phone... SP comes into my consideration and i find it pretty cool and powerful.. Though.. yesterday I found out that there is also P6 in the offer... What would you recommend ? I am probably going for the SP, but P6 has got 4 cores. Does it make that much of a difference ?
Personally i dont know anything about P6. So my recommendation is SP. Go For SP.. But while purchasing pls check one main thing in SP. Touch problem while Charging. U cant use ur phone while Charging.. But new phones doesnot have that problem i think. Any way make sure at the first day of the Purchase...
And also put ur phone in a flat surface and then use it.. That also a famous SP problem.. So pls check both of this two problems first..
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Hi guys.. right now I am about to buy a new phone... SP comes into my consideration and i find it pretty cool and powerful.. Though.. yesterday I found out that there is also P6 in the offer... What would you recommend ? I am probably going for the SP, but P6 has got 4 cores. Does it make that much of a difference ?
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galaxy s3 has 4 cores and in benchmark the SP is much better then S3 with 4 cores. Also Xperia sp has 4g (LTE) better battery and Andreno 320 GPU also is best gpu 4 playing games... i think xperia sp is the right choice..
Sorry for english (not my native language)
Its not the ammount of cores that tells you if the performance is high or not. It is the overall feeling of a device.
I've tested both the SP and P6 and I find the SP more suiteble for me.
Reason:
- UI: I dont like the UI of huawei
- GPU: Adreno 320 is very powerfull
- CPU: Cores and speed dont tell everything
Things the SP has:
-Notificatio ledbar
- Bluetooth 4.0
- 4G (LTE)
- NFC
Things the P6 has:
- Wireless charging
- 2GB RAM
Go to the website of sony and huawei and compare the features and specs. Dont use comparison websites because not all the websites have the correct specs.
Also go to a store and try both phones
Has P6 a HDR Camera?
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Has P6 a HDR Camera?
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Yes but the SP too
The SP's 2 cores have a higher clock speed and the chipset in general has a superior manufacturer.
Don't think the P6 has 4G either.
The extra RAM on the P6 is useful though - 1 GB of RAM is OK, but Sony steal quite a lot of it for system resources - 2GB means you'd have to be doing insane amounts of multi tasking to ever worry about it.
I suspect there will be much more development on the SP, if you're into custom ROMS.
My reasons for chosing the SP were 4G and familiarity (I like using custom ROMS, know how Sony do things and am used to all the flashing tools etc.) - I also like the fact that not many people have the SP.
please see test of P6! the touchscreen response is very poor, however, the touch screen of the SP responds only in a few situations even bad. mostly is nice.
Thanks guys I am going for the SP... i am sure i wont regret ...thread can be closed
The screen of sp is horrible
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Osku958 said:
mine doesn't have that problem
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Some device have that problem... U r lucky if u don't have that problem..
Just search in YouTube like
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Xperia SP Touch Screen bug while charging "
U can see that
Osku958 said:
mine doesn't have that problem
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here also ok. :good:
P6在中国就是个垃圾。短续航,游戏性能低,发热量高和实际只有200Mhz的GPU。。
P6 in China is a waste. Short battery life, low gaming performance, high heat, and actually only 200Mhz for GPU. .
Sorry for my poor English
Osku958 said:
mine doesn't have that problem
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Some Proofs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpZeiQ5oJ7E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcAt-iuZK-c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk1cgjuDGqM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTJ1vD2kv8g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhLy2fJ9AFk
So u are lucky....
I can confirm the charging problem on my X Sp as well... But i changed it from service centre for free via DOA process.. And new one has no issues.. I can perfectly use my phone during charging and flat surface.. Issues are no longer present..
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hi xda buddies!
im planning to leave my xperis x8 to a new device ,with a low-priced device like SP
ill be very happy if help me through out these question:
1-how much is sp's real antutu score? cause some videos on youtube shows a score around 15540 but another shows 23000?
2-Do you like the TFT screen on sp?(quality ,viewing angel, etc) rate from 1 to 10 (10 is a calibrated device like iphones or ipad)
3-Any problems experianced with SP?
4-If you turn back in time will you pick SP again?:sly:
5-Does this device runs GTA SA smooth?(more important that other question!)
Stupid Question ,sorry!
I personally like to pick new Asus fonepad7 which is way cheaper for me to get,and its stunning ips panel
God Bless You guys
Regards Javid
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jay-z-s said:
hi xda buddies!
im planning to leave my xperis x8 to a new device ,with a low-priced device like SP
ill be very happy if help me through out these question:
1-how much is sp's real antutu score? cause some videos on youtube shows a score around 15540 but another shows 23000?
2-Do you like the TFT screen on sp?(quality ,viewing angel, etc) rate from 1 to 10 (10 is a calibrated device like iphones or ipad)
3-Any problems experianced with SP?
4-If you turn back in time will you pick SP again?:sly:
5-Does this device runs GTA SA smooth?(more important that other question!)
Stupid Question ,sorry!
I personally like to pick new Asus fonepad7 which is way cheaper for me to get,and its stunning ips panel
God Bless You guys
Regards Javid
Sent from my E15i using Tapatalk 2
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1. alright so my antutu score is 23400
2. the screen is quite pleasant even in the sun so id rate it at a 7-8 viewing angles dont matter much since im always in front of the phone not lying down beside it
3. I havent experienced any problems with the xperia sp
4. i would re pick the sp because at the time there was nothing better up till recently i havent seen anything to match it
5. the sp is one of the best phones for gaming because it has the same gpu as most 2013 flagships minus the 1080p display hence it has a very high frame rate, it has one of the highest frame rates for any phone something around 49 fps
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1. alright so my antutu score is 23400
2. the screen is quite pleasant even in the sun so id rate it at a 7-8 viewing angles dont matter much since im always in front of the phone not lying down beside it
3. I havent experienced any problems with the xperia sp
4. i would re pick the sp because at the time there was nothing better up till recently i havent seen anything to match it
5. the sp is one of the best phones for gaming because it has the same gpu as most 2013 flagships minus the 1080p display hence it has a very high frame rate, it has one of the highest frame rates for any phone something around 49 fps
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thats an incredible device , i never expected a mid-range phone from sony could beat most of 2012 - 2013 flagships. thats just unbeliveable , so whats the contrast of these antutu scores? its gained by the update to 4.3 or its a special version of phone?
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I'm on stock 4.3 the upgrade added only about 1-2 thousand more points, not much
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thanks
what do you think about those low scores from SP? are there diffrent types of xperia sp? :-/
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Different types with lte or not, but the firmware, kernel and tweaks are special for the score.
Gesendet von meinem Xperia SP
ok! just one more question : whats the score from geekbench3? asus fonepad is around1000 i think sp should be 2000 maybe?
low scores video screenshot(16000):
vs galaxy s4 mini
another test:
detailed:
and confused again!!!!
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Again im on stock, no root no custom Rom, no nothing
I'll add more later, it's pretty late right now
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Alright I was bored and couldn't sleep again, stock no modification whatsoever
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Thats all i needed!!!!
thanks mate , thank you very very much , sp is a monster for mid-range smartphones .stylish ,powerfull , high quality build ,latest connectivity chips like nfc bt4 , blah blah
thumbs up for this wonderful product:thumbup::thumbup:
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In AnTuTu X my score is 34217
the SP is a monster for a midranger, it even beats some flagships of the same time, Nexus 4, S3, Xperia Z, all thanks to that gpu and fast 1.7 ghz processor, in vellamo it beat out the note 3 and z ultra
yea it sounds great , if the screen was better ,i wont doubt to choose sp , but 4.6 is small for me (plus in screen navigation-bar which reduces acuall size), my main perpose is not performance , i think output is more important than performance cause you get a device to make use of it & we should attention to this harmony , so i prefer to get sth with better screen & ips panel(ips is very important)
but "MAYBE" i choose this device if the tft screen was good enough in first look
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With 4.1.2 is a great choice, very competitive price on internet than other top product! But with 4.3 is a bad buy
Rmin89 said:
With 4.1.2 is a great choice, very competitive price on internet than other top product! But with 4.3 is a bad buy
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?? update makes it worse?
excuse me sir , how much is the real amount of RAM in this device? 1gigabytes or 768megabytes?
i asked this cause on a review first versions of sp had only 768 mb of RAM
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jay-z-s said:
?? update makes it worse?
excuse me sir , how much is the real amount of RAM in this device? 1gigabytes or 768megabytes?
i asked this cause on a review first versions of sp had only 768 mb of RAM
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1gb but 4.3 screwed it up i only have like 250 mb avail, with 4.1.2 i had 600+
Buy ZR instead. It's only a little more expensive.
SP is a good phone. But 4.3 seems buggy.
IMHO...
For SP, I think it's a good choice (even for movies and games) for the budget conscious
I stayed away from 4.3 and after trying customised rom, is back with 254, rooted.
Whatever niceties I need - a launcher should help, without the problems associated with 4.3, and without much drain on the system
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1gb but 4.3 screwed it up i only have like 250 mb avail, with 4.1.2 i had 600+
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too bad , 4.4 may fix this
alphaz1 said:
Buy ZR instead. It's only a little more expensive.
SP is a good phone. But 4.3 seems buggy.
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ZR?good idea. i should check the price
headache59 said:
IMHO...
For SP, I think it's a good choice (even for movies and games) for the budget conscious
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I stayed away from 4.3 and after trying customised rom, is back with 254, rooted.
Whatever niceties I need - a launcher should help, without the problems associated with 4.3, and without much drain on the system
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4.6 inch is not what i was wondering
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Benchmarks do not say anything about the real feel and performance of a device. To me it is important that a device feels quick and stable and this in combination with the low price did it for me. However some more details and other stories can be read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561829
Does the Xperia SP handle most highend- games directly out of the box?
Or it requires some rooting, flashing etc.
I'm going to buy the phone soon..
Any recommendations accepted too..
4.3 [207/205] have ram problems. It fc most games. But in custom roms everything seems be okay. Recently I flashed mokee[4.4.4, ubl] and everything is perfect[battery lasts as good as 4.3 or even better, perfomance much better....]. If you want to stay with stock or stock based rom I didn't suggest you to buy xperia SP.
cabba403 said:
Does the Xperia SP handle most highend- games directly out of the box?
Or it requires some rooting, flashing etc.
I'm going to buy the phone soon..
Any recommendations accepted too..
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Well, let me put it like that. Our phone has about 60-65% of the GPU power the latest phones (The one with Adreno 330), our GPU has to render exactly half the pixels cause we have 720p display compare to 1080p. And that's indeed the case. In benchmarks Xperia SP has the same fps (frames per second) as HTC One M8, Xperia Z2, etc. ±10%
So, yes.
I myself am playing Asphalt 8, Dungeon Hunter 4, Dead Trigger 2 on highest setting with smooth gameplay and zero lag.
When it comes to "Stock vs custom ROM/kernel" performance, I'd say that there is significant no difference. Custom kernels give you a little bit CPU boost, but that doesn't really affects games, while custom ROMs's performance isn't as good as the stock one, since Sony didn't provide us with the source and we have to use hacks, in order to be able to run 4.4+.
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Klaudas said:
4.3 [207/205] have ram problems. It fc most games. But in custom roms everything seems be okay. Recently I flashed mokee[4.4.4, ubl] and everything is perfect[battery lasts as good as 4.3 or even better, perfomance much better....]. If you want to stay with stock or stock based rom I didn't suggest you to buy xperia SP.
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The problem is on your end. I was with stock ROM for over a month before switching to Custom ROM and I had no issues what so ever. Please don't spread false information.
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Well, let me put it like that. Our phone has about 60-65% of the GPU power the latest phones (The one with Adreno 330), our GPU has to render exactly half the pixels cause we have 720p display compare to 1080p. And that's indeed the case. In benchmarks Xperia SP has the same fps (frames per second) as HTC One M8, Xperia Z2, etc. ±10%
So, yes.
I myself am playing Asphalt 8, Dungeon Hunter 4, Dead Trigger 2 on highest setting with smooth gameplay and zero lag.
When it comes to "Stock vs custom ROM/kernel" performance, I'd say that there is significant no difference. Custom kernels give you a little bit CPU boost, but that doesn't really affects games, while custom ROMs's performance isn't as good as the stock one, since Sony didn't provide us with the source and we have to use hacks, in order to be able to run 4.4+.
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Yes, you can play most high end games but stock rom ram managment are sh*t. After 24h~ usage free ram left 220-150mb most~. I tried "play" with ram manager but It didn't help.
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Yes, you can play most high end games but stock rom ram managment are sh*t. After 24h~ usage free ram left 220-150mb most~. I tried "play" with ram manager but It didn't help.
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Just because you don't know how to operate with your phone, that doesn't mean that the phone/ROM is bad. Even with stock ROM I had 250~300MB of free RAM with SwiftKey, NovaLauncher, WidgetLocker, Viber, WhatsApp, few xposed modules, etc.
As I said, the problem is/was on your end...
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Just because you don't know how to operate with your phone, that doesn't mean that the phone/ROM is bad. Even with stock ROM I had 250~300MB of free RAM with SwiftKey, NovaLauncher, WidgetLocker, Viber, WhatsApp, few xposed modules, etc.
As I said, the problem is/was on your end...
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Can you make few SS for me after 24h[ofcourse no reboots]?. If you have more than 10-15 apps installed like me you won't get that amount of ram left after 24h~. No way.
as if certain user experiences would be a lie.
So does it worth the buy or any recommendations?
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So does it worth the buy or any recommendations?
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With stock rom you won't be able to play high end games without reboots for free ram. If you have time for flashing custom roms everything fine! But if you want to stay with stock I suggest you to buy LG L90 for example.
I wouldnt buy this phone in your place (I wish I hadn't bought it for myself too)
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In it's price range it's the best phone specs wise.
Moto G is a worth buy as well, but it has Adreno 305 which is about twice as slow as our Adreno 320. If you like gaming Xperia SP is the best buy, however it reached it's EOL so you must rely on custom ROMs for further software updates. While Moto G will receive Android L for sure, and I'm pretty sure Motorola will keep maintaining it at less till the end of 2015 since the new Moto G 2014 is pretty similar to the Moto G 2013. But still Moto G's LTE model with SD Card cost more, so you must put this in consideration as well. Going with either phone, you will be pretty pleased. But if I had to buy a new phone now and I had ~150€ to spend I will definitely go with Xperia SP.
P.S.: I have both phones.
Thanks , for your information.
I'm sure to consider the Xperia SP.
Do you mind , if i ask you about the camera of this phone?
cabba403 said:
Thanks , for your information.
I'm sure to consider the Xperia SP.
Do you mind , if i ask you about the camera of this phone?
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Rear camera is quite decent. Here are few threads with shots from it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-sp/themes-apps/post-photo-xperia-sp-t2823275
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2304148
check it
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Thanks , for your information.
I'm sure to consider the Xperia SP.
Do you mind , if i ask you about the camera of this phone?
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this is phone is supposedly great but, as other user mention, the RAM is lacking so it makes it lagging. Sure some games run fine. but try playing real racing 3 with no modifications. it'll burn your battery (doesn't literally burn it, i just mean really hot) and it often lags.
camera wise, it depends on preference. for me this camera sometimes get awesome results outdoor, but it has same problem with many xperia phone. lots of noise if u zoom.
if u have time, read my 1 year review http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2778795
The SP's gaming performance is pretty decent - and great for the price. If you're looking to get some idea of what 2D and 3D GPU performance is when choosing a new phone, searching for Antutu benchmarks isn't a bad place to start.
As for the camera, passable outdoors (but noisy), worthless indoors. Mine has even started taking out of focus pictures, even after half pressing camera button to focus first. Might be something to do with the len's protective film being removed (due to scratches)
The issue i have now is that it easily heats up when playing 3d games. Think before buying if you're a gamer.
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carlfinity said:
The issue i have now is that it easily heats up when playing 3d games. Think before buying if you're a gamer.
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Well I found out all devices I've ever used, my friends, my father's are all prone to heat up when playing high end games. This should not be the problem. As far as my inspection on my XSP, it won't get over the 41 degree Celsius barrier. However, I don't know about others though.
Now for some small hardware lecture. Ahem.
3D Games require more power
More power means the processor will step up its clock rate
Higher clock rate means higher power
Processors emits heat upon high power usage
Thus the heat you get.
Ambient temperature can make it worse too, so don't ever do gaming in a hot environment
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Well I found out all devices I've ever used, my friends, my father's are all prone to heat up when playing high end games. This should not be the problem. As far as my inspection on my XSP, it won't get over the 41 degree Celsius barrier. However, I don't know about others though.
Now for some small hardware lecture. Ahem.
3D Games require more power
More power means the processor will step up its clock rate
Higher clock rate means higher power
Processors emits heat upon high power usage
Thus the heat you get.
Ambient temperature can make it worse too, so don't ever do gaming in a hot environment
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Mine too doesnt go pass the 40 degrees mark however other Sony models specially the newer ones feel less hotter than SP so something about this phone is not right.
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carlfinity said:
Mine too doesnt go pass the 40 degrees mark however other Sony models specially the newer ones feel less hotter than SP so something about this phone is not right.
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Well what you feel is different from what it really is. I believe checking the CPU temp on the newer Sony devices (x degree), and compare with our devices (40-41 degree) will finally unfold the mystery behind XSP heating, perhaps?
And difference between dual core and quad core do play an important role, you know
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Well what you feel is different from what it really is. I believe checking the CPU temp on the newer Sony devices (x degree), and compare with our devices (40-41 degree) will finally unfold the mystery behind XSP heating, perhaps?
And difference between dual core and quad core do play an important role, you know
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That makes it seem ironic, does 4 cores draw more power compared with our dual core? I believe so, since newer Sony models have more or less 2.0 ghz clock speed. I still can't believe those devices felt less hotter given the power that they carry. Anyways, this is just my observation that I hope will benefit the soon to be owners of this device.
Hey Folks got a question does Gta San Andreas works on this device? Cause i cant find any gameplay or something like this,
Asphalt8 ? Modern COmbat 5?
Asphalt 8 and Modern Combat work fine, however the first one might require 256mb of swap to run lagfree. :good:
Didn't test those games on lollipop however, last time I played was back in my stock 4.3 days
Cause i might buy this device (yes i know its pretty old but still gold ) im asking cause i bought a device that didnt run gta sa cause of tegra 2 and i dont want that happens again ;D
U say lagfree ;D? On which settings hope not on low ;D
Does lolipop boosts the phone? Less ram consumption faster of opening apps and the rest compared to 4.3?
Thx for the answer though
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Cause i might buy this device (yes i know its pretty old but still gold ) im asking cause i bought a device that didnt run gta sa cause of tegra 2 and i dont want that happens again ;D
U say lagfree ;D? On which settings hope not on low ;D
Does lolipop boosts the phone? Less ram consumption faster of opening apps and the rest compared to 4.3?
Thx for the answer though
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Honestly? If you want to do gaming with a phone, get one with more ram.
Xperia V is an awesome device without big issues (both on software and on hardware), but the battery is really small (4 hours of screen on time when doing usual stuff, 1-1.5 hours when gaming) and of the advertised 1gb ram, only 768mb appear to be usable, and that makes modern games quite likely to lag (unless swap is used)
Lollipop and stock 4.3 didn't do much good to ram management either - On my phone, with a minimal setup of apps only 250-300mb is actually usable.
If I talk about lagfree gaming, I mean 'without stuttering'.. However, were talking about ~30fps here.
That said, due to the lower resolution and quite modern cpu technology I managed to beat the S4 in AnTuTu's graphics score, and, running my overclocked personal custom kernel, also the S3 in general benchmark score.
So, the phone is definitely worth its price (and not going to die too soon, I will care about that ), but it might not be the best choice for gaming.
Hope this helps mate
Ye thanks man a nice post.
Cause i Still dont know what should i get xperia z or xperia v
The xperia v is like 35 euro cheaper and im not that rich to buy xperia z3 tho
I live in Poland here are the prices really small but u know :<
I checked the specificiation of both phones there are big diffrences but does i will feel the diffrence ?
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Wooby said:
Ye thanks man a nice post.
Cause i Still dont know what should i get xperia z or xperia v
The xperia v is like 35 euro cheaper and im not that rich to buy xperia z3 tho
I live in Poland here are the prices really small but u know :<
I checked the specificiation of both phones there are big diffrences but does i will feel the diffrence ?
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In my humble opinion, if you have such a choice, get the Xperia Z.. The quad core cpu will certainly make a difference.. And you have a larger development community, so you can be quite sure to always have the latest CyanogenMod officially supporting your phone. In addition, battery life is much better.