According to BGR, the First is about to be discontinued: http://bgr.com/2013/05/13/htc-first-discontinued-att-facebook-phone/
I love the First, it's a great size that can be used one-handed, it has stock Android, and the battery life is amazing. But I've held off buying one because I want to make sure it gets CyanogenMod support first. If it does get official CM support, I'll go out of my way to get one, if I still can.
Does anybody know how long it will take HTC to release the source for the First, so CM support might start?
The only competitor to the First on AT&T is probably the One Mini, but rumors are that the Mini will have a significantly smaller battery than the First (1700 instead of 2000mah).
Can't say I didn't see it coming. With the lack of support in this section I doubt it would get official CM support.
I might pick up one of these in the bargain bin if I find a good deal somewhere. I'm looking to open a second line for my daughter,without a contract and this one will fit the bill.
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yeah might pick one up too. 150$ on eBay isn't bad of a deal.
That's disappointing. Now I question whether it would be a good idea to give my mom this phone.
On the other hand, there is a update with this statement from AT&T in the article:
As mentioned previously, we do pricing promotions all the time and have made no decisions on future plans.
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Though, I don't have huge hopes.
$150 where? Cheapest I could find was 300 new. Well I have mine and cm is mostly booting. Hope to have it sorted out in the next day or so
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This is one of the best phones I have seen for years. I dont understand why so few people bought it, it even has stock android... It should be easier to develop a working cm for this one than for all these galaxies out there. I would even get over the small storage for all the advantages.
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$150 where? Cheapest I could find was 300 new. Well I have mine and cm is mostly booting. Hope to have it sorted out in the next day or so
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I've been trying to figure out how to compile CM as well, do you have any repositories I could look at yet, or is it all still just on your local checkout? I'm not having as much luck, but I've never built CM for anything beyond my Galaxy Nexus before, so I'm not familiar with porting it to new devices.
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I've been trying to figure out how to compile CM as well, do you have any repositories I could look at yet, or is it all still just on your local checkout? I'm not having as much luck, but I've never built CM for anything beyond my Galaxy Nexus before, so I'm not familiar with porting it to new devices.
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Yeah it's on my github. Same username as here. I would suggest against flashing it though. I barely trust it right now
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According to BGR, the First is about to be discontinued: http://bgr.com/2013/05/13/htc-first-discontinued-att-facebook-phone/
I love the First, it's a great size that can be used one-handed, it has stock Android, and the battery life is amazing. But I've held off buying one because I want to make sure it gets CyanogenMod support first. If it does get official CM support, I'll go out of my way to get one, if I still can.
Does anybody know how long it will take HTC to release the source for the First, so CM support might start?
The only competitor to the First on AT&T is probably the One Mini, but rumors are that the Mini will have a significantly smaller battery than the First (1700 instead of 2000mah).
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This is sad to hear. I just got one for my grandmother too. While 4.1 is nice, the polish of 4.2 vastly improves the experience with things like a timer, stop watch, and swype keyboard. Sadly, I don'y see 4.2 coming official to this device.
The phone has descent specs, at least it could be a good option for some CM10.1 love
I might pick this up soon since it's so cheap now. Will this get 4.2 at least? Hope so. Seems like a good purchase. What color did you guys get it in?
very sad to hear indeed. its a terrific phone. the size is great, love the way the back feels, and the battery life is terrific imo. it feels very sturdy too. as soon as my store got a bunch of dummy units in i knew i was going to like it. im carrying around the company's seed unit and im very impressed (black model... gosh i love the look of that red and baby blue though). would love cm10.1 on this machine.
Here's another vote of confidence for this outcast phone. Really love the design. Who cares what software it's running, we'll flash our own anyway. I've been waiting so long for an upgrade from my HTC Aria, which I got specifically because it was small.
HTC has got to do something with all its unused stock, if they're smart they'll simply remove FB Home and push it back out, if they're dumb we should see these babies go for nothing like the HP TouchPad. Either way this phone has a lot of potential to sell like hotcakes.
Broke my HTC One X screen and got an HTC First for $50 brand new. Agree with all the other positive comments about this phone so far. Rooted. unlocked bootloader, freeze Facebook Home and loving every bit of it so far. My only gripe is the weak camera, but to find solid specs on a smaller form factor is so hard these days.
May I ask where you got it from?
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Won it at an auction at work.
So when do you all think First cases will start hitting the discount bin.
Well I haven't forgotten about it.
https://twitter.com/Jmz_Software/status/339153391869652992
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Well I haven't forgotten about it.
https://twitter.com/Jmz_Software/status/339153391869652992
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Whoa! How's it running? Is that Sense 5?
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Whoa! How's it running? Is that Sense 5?
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Nah it's just jb sense 4+. It has some sizing issues I need to finish up. I also need to fix audio but that should be easy enough
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K you kind folks.... if you had the opportunity to trade you Nexus One for HTC Desire?
would you? Or would you not do it? Please add reason.
I know they're practically the same phone but I'm caught in a dilemma here.
I'd stick with the Nexus.
With the Desire, I'd just install a non-Sense ROM anyway
Hmm..how about there's a higher chance the Nexus one will receive updates before the Desire (Gingerbread?) See how early it had froyo
Where I am from, the telco's are bundling line plans/contracts with Desires, making it affordable and common place. But there is nobody selling Nexus ones here. Now that Google has taken it off its store, this phone has just became even more rare. Love the unique feel about that
These 4 young ladies suggest you hang on to your Nexus
Nexus One + ROM with Desire theme = sexy UI, sexier phone, minus SenseUI crap.
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These 4 young ladies suggest you hang on to your Nexus
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That's all you had to say....
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Nexus One + ROM with Desire theme = sexy UI, sexier phone, minus SenseUI crap.
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Any suggestion on which one is the best one out right now?
And for all of you who responded... thanks. Now just to add a twist to it...
What if you had 2 Nexus Ones... would you still trade one of them? I'm really leaning towards no right now since the announcement that there aren't any more Nexus Ones.
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What if you had 2 Nexus Ones... would you still trade one of them? I'm really leaning towards no right now since the announcement that there aren't any more Nexus Ones.
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No. Why would you?
Why do you have two?
I was in the same boat as you last week. I went with the Nexus. The support for it is amazing and I prefer vanilla over Sense (I wasn't before I bought the nexus). I already has Froyo before any other Android device....Correction, WAAAAAAY before any other Android.... The phone is amazing and I love every aspect of it. Hopefully, I will have influenced your decision
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And for all of you who responded... thanks. Now just to add a twist to it...
What if you had 2 Nexus Ones... would you still trade one of them? I'm really leaning towards no right now since the announcement that there aren't any more Nexus Ones.
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If I had two, sure, I'd probably trade just to diversify. But I wouldn't want to replace my primary at this point.
I agree with above. I wouldn't want two of the same devices.... Even though I do love my Nexus . What's the point of having two of the same device when you can have two different ones, with different designs and slightly different features.
Believe it or not the 2 that I have in my possession are Nexus # 4, and #5. I sold my 1st 3 and after the 3rd one, I couldn't last a day without the Nex. So I bought 2 and 1 as backup. (Wife using it in the meantime until she gets her iPhone 4...) I told her it's grounds for divorce for her to own an iPhone 4 =)
The diversity thing makes sense and was the main reason for a trade, but since the Google Announcement, it made it harder to let it go even if I had 1 already. That and that they are practically the same phone too.
Thanks for everyone's input... I'm not gonna do the Desire trade anymore, I'm working on trading it for a Galaxy S if anything. For Diversity sake, I just hope I don't lose my Nexus One somehow.
i'd keep the nexus because the desire has more of a plastic back battery cover and isnt quite as good build quality as the nexus. but the desire is still awesome, i'd just give the edge to nexus.
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K you kind folks.... if you had the opportunity to trade you Nexus One for HTC Desire?
would you? Or would you not do it? Please add reason.
I know they're practically the same phone but I'm caught in a dilemma here.
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Looking at the name of your post, are you sure it isnt more your sexuality that your not sure about?
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Looking at the name of your post, are you sure it isnt more your sexuality that your not sure about?
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I don't know... No one else saw it that way. I think you're just hoping to find a guy to be 'boyfriends' with. Wrong tree homo.. I mean, homie
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I don't know... No one else saw it that way. I think you're just hoping to find a guy to be 'boyfriends' with. Wrong tree homo.. I mean, homie
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sexy nexie/desie? yep mate your a proper ******. unless your 12 that is
I'd keep the Nexus, for its triband 3G radio. I'm in Europe and I want to be able to cross the Atlantic and have working 3G and just pop a SIM card in. That's one of the reasons why I had a N900 before, I like to know I have the possibility to make it work both in the US and in Europe. The T-Mobile version, that is.
Keep both Nexi. You wont really be getting diversity in my opinion. You will be getting a few more hard buttons and an optical pad instead of a trackball, and you will lose out on the N1 support. Be strong and hold out till an new phone is released that you don't think twice about switching to. It is not a bad decision to go with the trade, does the Desire sell as easily as the N1?
In the development section seems root will come soon. Now the question is who.is stil planning on returning the vivid? I have till Monday I bought it a launch. I'm still debating especially with root seemingly coming in some time now from what's been said in think tank in development section.
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In the development section seems root will come soon. Now the question is who.is stil planning on returning the vivid? I have till Monday I bought it a launch. I'm still debating especially with root seemingly coming in some time now from what's been said in think tank in development section.
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Not sure how soon it will come, but it's nice to know someone is working on it at this point. I've always favored root rhough XDA as oppose to through HTC.
I think I'm keeping mine. I don't like any of the other phones. Not a fan of Samsung. This phone will be awesome when it is cracked.
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keeping mine. stock its not bad, and rooted will be epic! i'd consider the SG2, but for $100 more, it doesnt seem like the right deal... loving the vivid!
Mines going back tomorrow for the nitro, I won't miss it too much since I also have an amaze 4g. The wife doesn't understand why I need 2 hi end phones but what she doesn't realize is that come march I'll have 3 and in July I'll be adding another. If the vivid gets perm root and unlocked with s-off I'll probably get another one. I love the phone and the screen is one of the prettiest out there in my opinion. Hopefully it won't take long to get things moving on it, if htc doesn't keep their promise the amaze might be my last htc device unless if they were to bring a rezound to att, if that happened I'd be like a kid at Christmas.
Best of luck to those keeping it, it really is a great phone but I see the word HD in a device name and I start slobbering all over myself.
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Already returned mine, still with HTC though. I just couldn't do the Samsung.
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i returned mine... i now have the gs2 1777. i love that phone. when i got the vivid, i wasnt really liking it but i learned to like it... but the gs2 i loved almost instantly. really glad i switched
I'm Keeping Mine
It does what I need - phone calls, texting, web access, running apps I've installed. Except for a couple of random reboots (none recently) and one system freeze (pulled the battery) over 30 days, I've had no real problems. It's fast when I have a good data connection, and I don't think it's the phone's fault when I don't. I did give AT&T a list of issues for their survey, but overall, I'm satisfied.
As for the Carrier IQ issue, any phone I get from AT&T (except for possibly the iPhone 4S) will have CIQ software on it. Rooting, when available, may not be totally stable yet for any of the new LTE phones. The best solution for me is to keep my communications plain vanilla, which I do any way, so there's nothing that I need to be worried about. I do want to CIQ stuff off my phone if and when there is a safe way to do it.
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As for the Carrier IQ issue, any phone I get from AT&T (except for possibly the iPhone 4S) will have CIQ software on it. Rooting, when available, may not be totally stable yet for any of the new LTE phones. The best solution for me is to keep my communications plain vanilla, which I do any way, so there's nothing that I need to be worried about. I do want to CIQ stuff off my phone if and when there is a safe way to do it.
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the SGHi777 aka the Galaxy S 2, does not contain CIQ
as for rooting LTE phones, i guess you havent seen the GS2 Skyrocket forums? its rooted and has custom roms.
I have 211 confirmed receipts so far from those were lied to and are joining the class action suit.
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Oh well, I'm keeping mine. I really like the phone and tbh I'll get another one in about a year, so I think I can live with it till then.
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Is there any update on XDA for rooting the Vivid?!
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is there any update on xda for rooting the vivid?!
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do you see any?!
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do you see any?!
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Busted! You are. Just wishful asking.
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Is there any update on XDA for rooting the Vivid?!
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Our own Gsleon has been talking with Evil_Devnull a little bit. Evil is working on rooting the HTC Rezound (which is nearly identical to the Vivid). So as of now, keep on the lookout for the progress with the Rezound root, because that could very well translate to when/how we Vivid owners get root.
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i returned mine... i now have the gs2 1777. i love that phone. when i got the vivid, i wasnt really liking it but i learned to like it... but the gs2 i loved almost instantly. really glad i switched
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You made a good choice. I owned gs2 earlier, switched to vivid, and had to come back to GS2. I wanted to Love vivid but HTC/Att who ever locks the boot loader shattered my plans. Well, I'm happy to be back to GS2.
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Went in to return the vivid tonight...
I didn't.
Quite simply, there is no viable alternative.
The skyrockets screen is horrendous and build quality is scary.
The nitro has the most beautiful screen I have ever seen but it is so laggy, unresponsive and jittery it feels like am entry level Android device, plus even with an unlocked bootloader devs hate LG so who knows what roms will ever come out for it.
So I sit... And pray someone crack this thing.
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Went in to return the vivid tonight...
I didn't.
Quite simply, there is no viable alternative.
The skyrockets screen is horrendous and build quality is scary.
The nitro has the most beautiful screen I have ever seen but it is so laggy, unresponsive and jittery it feels like am entry level Android device, plus even with an unlocked bootloader devs hate LG so who knows what roms will ever come out for it.
So I sit... And pray someone crack this thing.
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Finally... someone talks some sense. LG development is/has always been a joke. Samsung development consists of TouchWiz and AOSP Rom's (is there even a difference between the two?). I guess I can see all the people pissy about being lied to from HTC, but I don't see another option right now. Samsung phones are boring. I'm waiting for Evil and Gsleon.
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Finally... someone talks some sense. LG development is/has always been a joke. Samsung development consists of TouchWiz and AOSP Rom's (is there even a difference between the two?). I guess I can see all the people pissy about being lied to from HTC, but I don't see another option right now. Samsung phones are boring. I'm waiting for Evil and Gsleon.
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I'm going to stick it out as well and hope that these guys come through which I'm pretty sure they will. Don't get me wrong as I'm pissed off as well. But it'll give me satisfaction when we "stick it to he man".
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Anyone consider going over to the HTC One? I think that phone is gorgeous. It used to be that you wanted the Nexus device because you could get the latest Android OS the fastest but if you use a ROM it doesnt matter anymore.
Just wondering if anyone else has considered the leap.
Re: N4 -> HTC One?
If you don't want to unlock and root, go for it.
That's the reason why I left the one x
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Let me tell you... There were official jb Roms when I was on ICS on my one x. I couldn't jump onto it cause only certain cids were able to hop onto it. This god damn locked boot loader is even more of an fun blocker. Oh and the fact that if you decide to relock your device it will say "re-lock" in boot loader. Oh and the fact that you have to enter fastboot flash boot boot.IMG... Want me to go on? I didn't wanna but they update so slowlyyyyy.
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Well, there are developer phones being released with unlocked SIMs and Bootloaders out of the box. Thats obviously the version I would consider.
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Well, there are developer phones being released with unlocked SIMs and Bootloaders out of the box. Thats obviously the version I would consider.
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I'm assuming they cost a lot more than buying one under contract? I wouldn't pay any more than what this n4 cost me. $599+ for a no contract phone, what a joke.
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I'm assuming they cost a lot more than buying one under contract? I wouldn't pay any more than what this n4 cost me. $599+ for a no contract phone, what a joke.
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I have no speculation as to the cost of it. I have typically bought my phones off contract anyway so paying $600 is normal for me. The fact that the N4 was so inexpensive was just a treat. I never really expected to pay that little for a phone off contract again.
Suppose with the rumors of the N5 swirling around maybe I should just wait it out until November again. Damn, I just get bored too quickly.
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Forgot about that.. Meh..
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Forgot about that.. Meh..
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Well, that settles it for me.
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Yea if you get bored fast.. Expect a new HTC flagship 6 months from the One.. Then you'll be upset.
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Not "upgrading" not worth it to shell out $600+ for a small bump in specs. I wouldn't even consider the non dev version
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Yea if you get bored fast.. Expect a new HTC flagship 6 months from the One.. Then you'll be upset.
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From what Ive been reading, this will be their only flagship phone this year. That being said, 6 months from now I'd be looking at the N5 anyway, so just in time. I average about 6 months between phones anyway.
HTC is getting killed by Samsung and Apple, i`am afraid they will not survive on the log run. Now they have serious delays in producing the casings and the camera components and a limited marketing budget. Samsung will go full steam ahead and are allready producing at 110% and marketing will kick in globaly when the actual delivery`s take place. RIP HTC.
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From what Ive been reading, this will be their only flagship phone this year. That being said, 6 months from now I'd be looking at the N5 anyway, so just in time. I average about 6 months between phones anyway.
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I personally wouldn't.. But I would keep my nexus 4 until the new nexus. I refuse to go back to htc with their stupid locks
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From my experience the HTC phones have terrible quality control issues. I've had to replace my Evo 3D the times before I had to settle with a decent one which had a long piece of lint behind the glass of the camera.
Looks like the One X was also plagued with issues as well. There's no telling what issues will be present since they're going with a whole different tech this time with their aluminum design.
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If you've got the cash to shell out, I don't see why not.
The HTC One is a damn nice phone and I see no downsides to it. I say get it and let us know how you like it!
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Anyone consider going over to the HTC One? I think that phone is gorgeous. It used to be that you wanted the Nexus device because you could get the latest Android OS the fastest but if you use a ROM it doesnt matter anymore.
Just wondering if anyone else has considered the leap.
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But if you're going to pay all that money to throw AOSP On it what's the point
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But if you're going to pay all that money to throw AOSP On it what's the point
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I love the phone design.
I have a Nexus 4, and an HTC One dummy phone.
They both feel very well crafted, both in their own way. One knock I have against HTC is their software. I've never really liked sense. The Blink Feed thing looks gimmicky. But, the One does have a better camera, and probably better battery life.
If you need a decent camera and you don't mind delayed updates, go with the One. I might purchase a One, but more than likely I'll stick with my Nexus 4 until the Nexus 5 is released.
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That's what they said when I bought my one x.. Only to find about about the one x+, droid DNA, and butterfly in between and now one
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Anyone consider going over to the HTC One? I think that phone is gorgeous. It used to be that you wanted the Nexus device because you could get the latest Android OS the fastest but if you use a ROM it doesnt matter anymore.
Just wondering if anyone else has considered the leap.
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Even with the "ROMS" you're still not getting what you get with an official Google build. There are parts of it that just have to be hacked around with until they mostly work with whatever aosp they're likely based off of(think all of the proprietary kernel BLOBs...) while Google probably either has access to the latest binaries or even source(never really looked yet as the n4 is my first actual "Google"(kinda) device...).
i.e. a nexus build SHOULD just work, while your ROM may or may not just work or might blow up at just the wrong moment(unlikely mostly, but still wouldn't really surprise me).
As to hopping to a new phone?! R u mad?! I just got the n4, and will stay with it until the next nexus is released probably, given that I'm in for cases, holsters, Qi charger, etc. and the One or even S4 just aren't "better" enough to be tempting at all, although I do sorely miss a uSD slot. (WTF?! HTH can a uSD be complicated/confusing when you have to damned well install a uSIM?! Also kinda missing a replaceable batt, esp with GPS apps which just SUCK batt like nobodies business...(I blame the enlightened for that...))
really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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Htc updates about as good as anyone else.
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really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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According to this article (and others like it I could not find right away) the reputation you speak of for HTC is not true. In terms up updating thier phones, HTC is the best of the major OEMs. Get a ONE!
... not to mention this is the first time (or first time in a while) we've seen them drop the same phone on many carriers, and tout a phone as their flagship for the year.
I feel like they'll be behind making this thing the best they can make it this year.
The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.
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The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.
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Not to mention that Samsung only really updates their flagships and not the lower end phones. I just came over to One from an S3.
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Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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Indeed, with the One I think we're going to see big things for HTC over the next year. A unified phone being the biggest contributor to their increase sales. They did what the GS3 did originally but stepped up their game with a modern phone with modern specs. Competition is good for the two, it will make everyone else reach harder to stay on par and they'll compete for who has the better phone. I think when 5.0 is dropped most likely next month, both manufactures will be rushing to get it out, we can only hope that the carriers don't drop the ball.
I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/
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I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/
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GS4 already comes with it
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H4rryTipp3r said:
GS4 already comes with it
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Then what are you doing here?
gk1984 said:
Then what are you doing here?
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As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I know, was just poking some fun. I've had a Samsung Moment, LG Optimus One, then an HTC Evo 3D all on Sprint. I also follow smartphones/tablets and new technology in general daily (actually, part of my job sort of). What I've seen is Samsung sucked at updates until that had success with the Galaxy series, even the early Galaxy's were slow to get updates. The LG phones were lucky to get anything at all. HTC updated pretty well recently, except in the US. International HTC devices got updates pretty quickly and regularly, but Sprint was slow to do so. Sprint seems to have been slow about this in general just like every other carrier here in the US. Although, the Evo 3D was extremely late (almost a year later) to the ICS party. This update was promised to us pretty early and it started to feel like we'd never get it by the time it released. Then Sprint held it for testing I assume for a few more months. The Evo 3D users were suspecting Sprint was holding onto the ICS update to encourage people to buy their Boost Mobile variant of the phone as it released with ICS, was the same exact phone with a different name, and was supposed to attract people to Boost. Not sure if this is the real reason, it was a month or two after that phone launched the rest of us got ICS.
In either case, HTC wasn't bad about it, they weren't great but they weren't bad. Sprint, on the other hand, seems to have been slow and I know there are a number of reasons for this. They need to test everything before they launch it. Does it work on their network properly and with their bloatware? They have to prioritize their devices to test and they have to be thorough to ensure they aren't liable for anything going wrong. It's a crappy system, but thats how it is.
H4rryTipp3r said:
GS4 already comes with it
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And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
I don't like holding this phone, and I can't overstate how much that informs the experience of using it. It makes an awful first impression, slippery and slimy and simply unpleasant in your hand. My white review unit is completely smooth and glossy, with a subtle checkered pattern that looks textured but is neither grippy nor textured anywhere on its body. Even the silver band around the sides, which is obviously supposed to look like metal, is plastic. Everyone I showed the GS4 to frowned and wrinkled their nose as if it smelled bad, before rubbing their fingers on the back of the phone and then handing it back to me — that's the opposite of the standard reaction to HTC’s One, which everyone wants to ogle and hold. That's going to be a huge problem for Samsung, because the GS4 and One are likely to be next to each other on store shelves, and at least on first impression there's absolutely no contest between the two.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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musclehead84 said:
I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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Hmmm Evo LTE came out June, was updated December. 6 months, only 2 months after Sprint released the update for the SG3. Sounds like its not HTC or Samsung but the carrier who is the culprit.
Now lets see. All the GS3's outside the US got upgraded to 4.1.2 in december. Has the GS3 been updated in the US yet? Nope, has it recieved the new samsung premium suite package that everyone else with the GS3 recieved? Nope. Hmmmmm....
If you actually looked at the link posted above, you can clearly see that there isn't much of a difference between Samsung and HTC as far as timely updates.
Harfainx said:
And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
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I honestly don't care about what it's made of as long as it looks good, and performs good I'm fine. I am more of a specs and software kind of person. Although the one does have me pretty intrigued because I've never had a phone built as so, and I listen to music and watch a lot of videos so I know those speakers will come in handy. I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4. The only reason I'm hesitant is because I'm not a big fan of sense... nor am I a big fan of all the stuff you have to do to root the thing. Compared to Samsung phones, it's way more difficult.
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I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4.
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As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).
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As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).
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If you want that, why not get the note 2? It's going to get a lot of the S4 features, and I wouldn't go with LG. The Optimus G has been out less then a year, and had 1 update and is already EOL.
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I contemplated not writing this. In tech sometimes we require so much perfection, we forget what's actually important to us. Furthermore we forget that any software issue can be conquered by the great devs here at XDA. With the fear of sounding hypocritical, here's why I found myself going back to the HTC One after a short two week affair with the S4.
I had very real issues with my silver HTC One. The S4 was the answer to those issues. After a couple weeks with the S4 I really missed one thing about the HTC One - the camera. I have 2 babies and after missing several pictures of them over the past couple weeks I became very frustrated with the slow launch and slow picture taking of the S4. I was enjoying all the other features but this was beginning to stick in my crawl. So I really researched the issues I was having with the HTC One. I found out that the brightness quick toggle was solved through Viper Rom and menu button was easily mapped to a short hold of the back button.
Now I had a problem because I was torn between going back to the HTC one (most of which for me all had build issues) or staying with the S4 and waiting for developement to speed up camera and some of the overall lag I was experiencing. So I went out to Best Buy and decided to check out a black HTC One. I don't know if it's simply because the manufacturing was updated or refined but it was perfect. Zero gaps, seemless bezel and no dead or stuck pixels. Having only one trade left at best buy I made the leap and swapped back to the HTC One. I think this was a great decision. Again a big factor was the camera, being able to post edit my shots - remove people from the background and make a drama shot without having to put it in that mode before shooting the picture is really fast and convenient. I in one day caught 3 great pictures that I would have needed to adjust settings on BEFORE taking with the S4. Pictures I think I would have missed with the S4. Also I didn't realize how different (brighter and somewhat crisper) the HTC One screen was. There will of course be sacrifices with the HTC One, no swappable battery, awkward placement of power button and no multi-window. But, the tradeoff is one I'm ok with. Black HTC One made the difference for me.
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Welcome back, I think?
Rippley05 said:
No offense, but wall of text is extremely hard to read.
Welcome back, I think?
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Thanks, I broke it up a little. I honestly am glad to be back. I had some issues with the HTC one and panicked a little but with this new one I'm definitely enjoying HTC and especially glad to have ZOE back. It's really a standout feature.
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Thanks, I broke it up a little. I honestly am glad to be back. I had some issues with the HTC one and panicked a little but with this new one I'm definitely enjoying HTC and especially glad to have ZOE back. It's really a standout feature.
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Don't feel bad my man. I was in the same situation as you. It was just something about this HTC One.
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I'm currently in panic mode trying to figure out what to do with my silver One. Thanks for the great post.
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Morghan said:
I'm currently in panic mode trying to figure out what to do with my silver One. Thanks for the great post.
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...and why is that?
I am about to end my remorse period and am 50-50 on the phone. Love it but gets too hot and eats too much battery sometimes (I'm a light user). I like it but I also got a SGS4 for my friend and I keep staring at it...
So, why panic mode? Thinking of returning... or?
Morghan said:
I'm currently in panic mode trying to figure out what to do with my silver One. Thanks for the great post.
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Glad I can help. This has been a hard decision for me but I'm glad to finally settle with the HTC One and think I've made the best decision for me.
In my opinion, figure out a way to swap for the black. I don't know if it's because of a refined manufacturing process, Better materials or what - but the difference between the two colors is night and day. No misfires pushing the back or home buttons and no gaps anywhere. I'll post pics when I get home. If you bought from sprint and go in to change color they'll charge a restocking fee. I would recommend pointing out a flaw with the silver (I'm sure you probably have one) and ask to change to a black one as you have heard reports of better assembly and less issues. If you bought from Best Buy or the like you can swap without fee's. That's why I almost exclusively by phones from Best Buy now.
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Glad I can help. This has been a hard decision for me but I'm glad to finally settle with the HTC One and think I've made the best decision for me.
In my opinion, figure out a way to swap for the black. I don't know if it's because of a refined manufacturing process, Better materials or what - but the difference between the two colors is night and day. No misfires pushing the back or home buttons and no gaps anywhere. I'll post pics when I get home. If you bought from sprint and go in to change color they'll charge a restocking fee. I would recommend pointing out a flaw with the silver (I'm sure you probably have one) and ask to change to a black one as you have heard reports of better assembly and less issues. If you bought from Best Buy or the like you can swap without fee's. That's why I almost exclusively by phones from Best Buy now.
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I agree, Best Buy was the way to go for me. Ended up getting data error 104 all the time on my first one.....exchanged the phone 6 times per sprint techs requests before I figured out they had my SIM ID incorrect on my account. The One (silver) I have is absolutely perfect now.
If I got my HTC one online, can I exchange at best buy?
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If I got my HTC one online, can I exchange at best buy?
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if you got it from Best Buy online then yes
I spent less then a week with the S4 before I gave in to my overwhelming felling of missing an HTC device. I liked some of the features but the phone just felt cheap and the Sprint service in my area doesn't seem to play well with Samsung Phones. Lots of dropped calls and frequent signal fluctuations. Love the ONE very happy I made the switch...