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I am yet to get this phone. But i have heard so many mixed opinions on this phone! Mostly negative.
I currently have a nexus 4. I just want to get peoples opinions on the
Xperia z display vs nexus 4 display? I know viewing angles are not good. but i don't plan to look at my phone from the side....
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The screen is beautiful when you look at it straight.I think better than the nexus 4.

Why open a new thread for this instead of reading/asking in the existing threads?
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love my new Sony XZ the screen is amazing. my last device was a galaxy s3 and i can defo say you wont be dissapointed if you get one
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shidahmid said:
love my new Sony XZ the screen is amazing. my last device was a galaxy s3 and i can defo say you wont be dissapointed if you get one
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Same. My last phone was a GS3 and wouldnt dream of going back. I love the screen of my Z.
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If your talking about just screen..Nexus 4 has the better calibrated screen..so when the calibration tool comes out for XZ it will probably beat it! But the XZ screen is also beautiful..specially the text are so crisp!

The color is not super vivid like the LED, and the contrast isn't very top class as well.
But besides these the screen itself is still pretty amazing! it's just sharp!

I actually dont think.that there's anything wrong with the display. Its the software. Look at photos with BE on...amazingly vivid colours - so the display can produce them, its just that in the UI it doesnt.

So many people complain about the viewing angles of the Z screen.... Why would you view it at an angle. How ridiculous would that look. It's a great phone with a great screen.
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If you can live with bad viewing angles then screen is fine. I just don't get it why sony has not enabled bravia in normal ui
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If you can live with bad viewing angles then screen is fine. I just don't get it why sony has not enabled bravia in normal ui
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I think due to battery life. Battery tests show the phone is not great for long term video viewing. Almost certainly due to bravia engines extra processing requirement.
If it was on all the time, people would complain about battery life.
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You should also check out the numerous videos on youtube comparing the xz and nexus 4. That way you can see the phones side by side and decide for yourself.

All the people saying that the screen looks bad, they must have eagle eye's. It looks much better than an iPhone's screen.
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technostein said:
I am yet to get this phone. But i have heard so many mixed opinions on this phone! Mostly negative.
I currently have a nexus 4. I just want to get peoples opinions on the
Xperia z display vs nexus 4 display? I know viewing angles are not good. but i don't plan to look at my phone from the side....
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really better than super amoled of SIII

decadan1977 said:
So many people complain about the viewing angles of the Z screen.... Why would you view it at an angle. How ridiculous would that look. It's a great phone with a great screen.
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Let's be fair - XZ viewing angles are not that great. Even a tiny change of viewing point results in slight display fade.
But I honestly can't see how is that a problem. I'd rather have not-the-best viewing angles with 1080p crisp display with natural colours than oversaturated display with pentile matrix, black clipping and burn-in issues

i'm sorry. as much as i like the phone - you have to admit the screen is pretty bad compared to other offerings on the market.
even place it next to an older gen phone like the one x and it's screen is marginally better..
i personally don't notice the difference in DPI between last gen 720p screens and these 1080p screens, and thats coming from a note 2 where the DPI was almost half than this.
but the colors are bad, the contrast is pretty bad, viewing angles are terrible.
ofcourse this is all relative, if you come from a phone with a normal grade screen then its not so bad, but all the other high end devices on the market have top notch screens which side by side are totally putting this one to shame, if you can live with that - go ahead, its a very nice device.
but alot of these people are sounding like they are trying to convince themselves of something that just ain't true...
perhaps with better calibration tools in the future this can be fixed, but right now its something you are going to have to live with.

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but alot of these people are sounding like they are trying to convince themselves of something that just ain't true...
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Well, to me you sound exactly the same I admit - the screen is not the best, and I never tried to convinve myself or others that it is, but you can't say it's bad, bad and terrible. And if you don't see the difference between Note 2 and XZ PPI - good for you, but for me the difference is very clear and visible.
It's simple - to each his own. If anybody is still in doubt - just go and check it in store, it's not ferbruary, it's available everywhere. If it's not for you - it's not for you. Simple as that

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Well, to me you sound exactly the same I admit - the screen is not the best, and I never tried to convinve myself or others that it is, but you can't say it's bad, bad and terrible. And if you don't see the difference between Note 2 and XZ PPI - good for you, but for me the difference is very clear and visible.
It's simple - to each his own. If anybody is still in doubt - just go and check it in store, it's not ferbruary, it's available everywhere. If it's not for you - it's not for you. Simple as that
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i didnt say the screen is terrible- its quite good, just sub-par compared to it's competitors, which is a shame because its not like the XZ has alot of advantages compared to it's competitors other than the water resistance and the design in general which is quite good.
but sure, as a device in its whole, there's nothing that's BAD about it, the screen is good, the performance is good, the camera is good, the design is good but when you put it next to a htc one, it's suddenly not such a good screen, the performance is lacking, the camera has its ups and downs, the battery is meh...
what i'm saying is you can't objectively say something is good or not without comparing it to it's direct competitors.
the galaxy 2 was a good phone, but compare it to current phones and its a piece of crap.
the xperia z is a great phone, and it has its advantages over it's competitors - heck, the water resistance just saved my phones life about 4 times yesterday alone... but the SCREEN is OBJECTIVELY not so good when you pit it against current gen devices, in fact- it's probably the worst 1080p screen on the market.
and while none of the 1080p screens on the market are actually bad, this one is still at the bottom of the list.

Look there's more than just viewing angles, deep blacks and over saturated colours. There's also detail and clarity as well as video playback and there, the Zs display is the best ever seen.
Check out the video below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpDi95S-PJ8
The Z totally owned the HTC One here. It's your choice. Lionking853 has also done a series of comparison videos in gaming and nothing compares to the Zs display.
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Thank you for all your opinions has helped a lot. In this video they say BE makes colours look washed out. So i am really confused lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiKeHUdU-X8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Xperia Z compared to HTC One

Okay first off, I hate to start one of these threads, since it's basically an opinionated question. The GS4 is a no go for me, really don't like physical buttons. Currently looking for a gsm replacement on tmobile for my Galaxy Nexus. The only thing holding me back from getting the Xperia Z is the lack of a huge development community (and possibly reports of poor screen performance). Just curious if anyone who's used these devices could weigh in with their experience. I'd prefer to hear first hand accounts than continue to read expert reviews.
Thanks everyone!
Also, mods if this kind of post isn't allowed on xda anymore, my apologies, please remove it.
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crimson12 said:
Okay first off, I hate to start one of these threads, since it's basically an opinionated question. The GS4 is a no go for me, really don't like physical buttons. Currently looking for a gsm replacement on tmobile for my Galaxy Nexus. The only thing holding me back from getting the Xperia Z is the lack of a huge development community (and possibly reports of poor screen performance). Just curious if anyone who's used these devices could weigh in with their experience. I'd prefer to hear first hand accounts than continue to read expert reviews.
Thanks everyone!
Also, mods if this kind of post isn't allowed on xda anymore, my apologies, please remove it.
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I went from a Galaxy Nexus to a Nexus 4, then had the same decision as you.
In terms of screen, the HTC One's has better viewing angles, no doubt about it, so does the Nexus 4 and Galaxy Nexus. In actual usage, on the latest firmware that improves blacks, it doesn't really matter that much. When actually looking at images, I compared the screens side by side and the Xperia Z seems to have a sharpness or vibrancy that the HTC One's doesnt. I really think the reviews overcook the view angle issue, it nearly put me off.
If you're used to the on screen buttons of AOSP, then I think the HTC one would be really irritating. That was a major factor for me, the quick swipe up from the middle launch of google now is also retained on the Xperia Z.
I found the HTC One difficult to hold, the edges seemed really sharp and hard, and the phone was quite slippery. At the same time the Xperia Z is also quite uncomfortable, but it doesn't feel like it is going to slide out of your hand. The power button placement is also much better on the Xperia Z.
The speaker is definitely much better on the HTC One, that said, the Nexus 4 is much better than the Galaxy Nexus, and the Xperia Z's speaker sounds better than the Nexus 4. So the Xperia Z isn't bad. I hold my phone with my left hand so it doesn't block the speaker, but if you hold your phone with your right hand and play music, then you will muffle the speaker.
I'm sure the HTC One is slightly faster due to newer processor but I don't think this matters that much, both will be fast.
I disliked sense 5 coming from AOSP, hated not being able to remove blink feed (find it really frustrating even though you can move it to a different home screen). The Sony customisations are actually an improvement on AOSP, things which frustrate me are fixed and also there are some other nice additions like location based wifi, bravia engine, wifi syncing with media go. The Sony Gallery called Albums is much much better than AOSP, the Walkman app is really good as is the Movies app. I never used built in apps before but I do here, I haven't installed MX Player.
The better camera in good light is undoubtedly the Xperia Z. I'm an amateur photographer (although street photographer so not much of a pixel peeper) and I'm impressed with the Xperia Z. Again the Nexus 4 is a step up from the Galaxy Nexus and the Xperia Z is much better. I haven't taken many pictures low light but I won't argue that the HTC One will provide better photos, the HTC also takes better videos and has Zoe which is cool (was one of the reasons the HTC One was attractive to me). Front camera is better on the Xperia Z than either the Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 4, the HTC One's is wider than the Z's if that matters to you.
The battery life I've been seeing has been pretty good, eg, if you're playing an mp4 film, I was seeing about 25% drop for 2 hours of watching the film. It's much better than the Nexus 4 which is a bit better than the Galaxy Nexus. Apparently the HTC One has a better battery life, I've never tested it though.
The Xperia Z has Micro SD slot which is great for music and films, I missed that owning the recent Nexus phones.
The last major point is the Xperia Z is water resistant, which is priceless, not because I want to take it under water but because it's nice having a life proof phone that you don't have to worry touching when you have wet hands or worried that rain will get into etc. It's a relaxing phone to own.
I only got the phone last weekend, the HTC One was the same price and I'm very happy with the phone and that I made the right choice for me.

Well thanks for that really in depth review. The more I think about it, the more I really want the Xperia. The water resistance factor hit me today while missing several calls walking through a downpour. I'm sure no matter what I end up getting, it will still be a step up from the gnex (which isn't actually in need of replacing, I'd just like something new). Hopefully T-Mobile releases the phone soon as the leaks suggest. I think I'd rather pay monthly for it than fork over the 500+ now. Thanks again
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crimson12 said:
Well thanks for that really in depth review. The more I think about it, the more I really want the Xperia. The water resistance factor hit me today while missing several calls walking through a downpour. I'm sure no matter what I end up getting, it will still be a step up from the gnex (which isn't actually in need of replacing, I'd just like something new). Hopefully T-Mobile releases the phone soon as the leaks suggest. I think I'd rather pay monthly for it than fork over the 500+ now. Thanks again
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The best you could do is to actually go to a shop and play with those two phones for some time and then decide.
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crimson12 said:
Okay first off, I hate to start one of these threads, since it's basically an opinionated question. The GS4 is a no go for me, really don't like physical buttons. Currently looking for a gsm replacement on tmobile for my Galaxy Nexus. The only thing holding me back from getting the Xperia Z is the lack of a huge development community (and possibly reports of poor screen performance). Just curious if anyone who's used these devices could weigh in with their experience. I'd prefer to hear first hand accounts than continue to read expert reviews.
Thanks everyone!
Also, mods if this kind of post isn't allowed on xda anymore, my apologies, please remove it.
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I expect the development community that it will continue to develop and grow larger with more mods.
This is one good things about the Z.
The screen on my Xperia Z is completely fine and I don't notice any problems with it

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...The only thing holding me back from getting the Xperia Z is the lack of a huge development community...
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Agree completely with uberlaggydarwin.
Fact is, compared to most (non-Nexus perhaps) phones. Much more actual development gets done such as actual "fixes" for problems and not just hacky workarounds. We still have a way to go towards complete AOSP, theres one or two driver blobs still required for example, and a few minor bugs. But with (almost) every day that passes there are new platform-specific patches submitted to the CyanogenMod device repo on github and if I'm reading them correctly we have already, or will very soon, have a blob-less driver powering WiFi.
I must say, coming from a non-Nexus device it is a relief to see this much actual development and not just WinZip-wielding 10yr olds mashing together ROMs with 10,000 unnecessary hacks that make them laggy and/or unstable.
...a little torn on the screen though. As everyone is saying it is beautiful to look at from the front and probably (from this angle) the best mobile screen I have used, but again, as mentioned, the viewing angles are sub-optimal.

Too add my egg to the basket... I too am coming from a Gnex, which i loved. Been owning the XZ for roughly 3 months now. The screen angle thingy is definitely exaggerated. The colours and the viewing angles will take some getting used to, coming from an amoled screen, but the sharpness and clarity definitely make the transition much more pleasant.
The camera is undoubtedly much much better then on the Gnex, which was my only gripe with it. As to the HTC, I would wager the XZ one better for my taste, but thats only based on reviews, no hands on :/
The battery life has been stable enough for me, for my use... they both lasted about 2 days, Gnex maybe a bit better, HTC again cannot comment.
As far as the build quality... there have been some issues if u read the forms and from my case - the flap on the charging port doesn't wanna stay closed anymore In this case I would say HTC is better. It also prefers on your design preferences.
For me, leaving my Gnex behind for the XZ was actually not that hard of a step. U will have to get used to less development as compared to the nexus devices but that doesn't mean there isn't any. Free xperia team are awesome and CM is coming along nicely and with it a whole bunch of other roms, from PAC, PA, AOKP and independent AOSP projects, so no fear there
In any case, ull get a wonderfull new phone, whichever u choose and I hope u enjoy it!

I guess in terms of development, I definitely prefer actual dev work over tons of roms that are almost the same. Out of curiosity, any soft key mods yet? I have mine set to RECENTS HOME BACK and having been like this for almost 2 years I'd rather not have to relearn default (honestly minor issue I'm just being picky).
I would love to go to the store and compare them as someone has said, but I can't find anywhere local that sells the Xperia Z.
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Even since the update the screen on the z has been great and really great to see in bright sunlight how I noticed today using it in sunlight yeah Germany didn't had the best weather as of late lol anyway I also don't think the viewing angle are a huge deal. I still see just fine what is on the display and actually Sony here in Berlin told me that the viewing angle is extra made a little darker so not everyone just can look and see stuff that easy on the screen if u don't want them too. Even so I think the viewing angle o's fine. Never had any issues seeing anything. Battery has been great as long as not being used with mobile data. All phones seem to get sucked dry in no time using Mobile data. At home with WiFi I can easily get 2 days.
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Any idea what kind of battery life you guys get with mobile data enabled? I currently get about 16 hours with 2.5ish hours of screen on time with my gnex.
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With my Gnex I get about the same as you. 2,5-3 hours of screen on time per day on auto-brightness. With my Xperia Z I can get 4-5 hours of screen time per day, depending on brightness (0%) and usage. With auto-brightness I get like 3 hours per day. But with light usage I can easily make it trough 2 days with my Z. My Gnex never lasts that long, even when I almost don't use it.

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Any idea what kind of battery life you guys get with mobile data enabled? I currently get about 16 hours with 2.5ish hours of screen on time with my gnex.
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crimson12 said:
Okay first off, I hate to start one of these threads, since it's basically an opinionated question. The GS4 is a no go for me, really don't like physical buttons. Currently looking for a gsm replacement on tmobile for my Galaxy Nexus. The only thing holding me back from getting the Xperia Z is the lack of a huge development community (and possibly reports of poor screen performance). Just curious if anyone who's used these devices could weigh in with their experience. I'd prefer to hear first hand accounts than continue to read expert reviews.
Thanks everyone!
Also, mods if this kind of post isn't allowed on xda anymore, my apologies, please remove it.
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XZ and HTC one is neck and neck for me, I dont like sense one bit, havent touch the device but i had prior HTC devices and I can tell ya sense really suck other wise i think the HTC one won in every aspect. if you looking to go CM10.1 then i would go HTC one if you looking to stay stock i would choose XZ.
P.S I dont like the physical key either damn samsung for starting that in the S3

I am kind of new to android, and just got my Z. But one thing i can say is: Phoning while showering is so chilled.

Why haven't I thought of this?! You're a genius mate, gonna do that tonight! Lols
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Battery life on data is not that good actually. Well I would say when listening music. Somehow the mediaserver always comes with on and even after turning off music it still drains the battery. Just a reboot fixes that. Listen barely to music on the phone anymore.
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dante501 said:
Battery life on data is not that good actually. Well I would say when listening music. Somehow the mediaserver always comes with on and even after turning off music it still drains the battery. Just a reboot fixes that. Listen barely to music on the phone anymore.
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That's really unfortunate. I primarily use Spotify on my phone for several hours a day.
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I'm having a blast with my Xperia Z.
Lots of fantastic ROMS in development...
Never noticed anything with regards to "viewing angles" i'm one of these freaks that tends to look at my phone head on.
With my own custom setup and settings i'm getting a full days use out of my phone.
I'm getting a whole day's battery life with heavy usage. Internet, Web, Whatsapp, Youtube, Camera etc.
Some people submerse their phones and have no problem, but i'm happy jsut treating my phone as resistant not proof.
I can reply to text messages in the bath with wet hands etc.
Build quality is fantastic. The best out at the minute i feel. Feels like a slab of glass! :fingers-crossed:
If you get one, buy a dock straight away, saves wear and tear on your charging ports.flaps.

I did that right away with my XZ when i bought it dock to charge,back n front glas protection this baby is amazing especially the White one my friend asked me to traid it for his Htc One,guess what,nop i said
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[Q] Does anyone regret buying the Xperia Z?

Hey all,
reason I ask is that I've had the phone for about 4-5 months and I'm already disenchanted by the overall experience.
Battery life is an odd one as it changes on a day to day basis (Obviously), but the general issue is that some days I can use it all the time without issue, another day like today it's been on for an hour and a half, and it's dropped to 96%
On the subject of battery I needed to use my phone for car navigation and even with it plugged into a 1.5 mah charger it kept dropping. slower but still going down this is the same amp-age as the wall charger from Sony.
so that's one thing.
other thing is the general day to day use.
I thought the waterproofing would be useful in hindsight it's a pain in the arse, as the door flaps are awkward to open when your hopping in and out of our vehicle, and I listen to a lot of music so the headphone plug sees a lot of action in my pocket, not broken but it's a poor design after extended use.
Now the next bit is probably going to get the fans of this phone up in arms, but I'll say it anyway.
I wish I had waited a few weeks longer for the S4 by Samsung, I had the Note 2 before hand and the battery life was exceptional even with constant use, and the the design while unimaginative in design and materials fitted the bill perfectly.
So do you regret getting the Xperia Z and if so why, and would you / are you going to change and if so what?

Never. For the battery issues, I rooted my phone and have better power control with CPU Tuner. So far the battery can last 2 to 3 days on my general usage.
As for the waterproof, I looooove it sooo much. The phone stays with me all the time, even when I was taking bath. Having the phone to be waterproof, I feel no worries in case I need to handle the phone with wet hands.

i wouldnt say i regret buying the z but i would say that i am disappointed with couple of things in the phone .
for example the camera : whatever users say but deep down everyone will agree its pure rubbish , they have really messed up with the camera be it with any settings.
battery life : you are right about the battery life , some times its normal and sometimes it drops 3-4 percent very quickly , betterbatterystats shows different wake up everyday even though i use the same apps and do the same stuff everyday on the phone.
wifi signal : plain HORRIBLE !
yup every phone has its shortcomings and xperia z has these shortcomings , but i am not regretting buying the phone but yes disappointed with certain things which they could have definitely done it better.

i replaced my phone 6 days after buying due to the sides "popping" up. other than that i'm pretty satisfied with the phone and the custom rom developments on it

i dont regret..its an awesome experience day after day, getting even better.

yeah the rom developments is really fast as compared to my S3 LTE. barely have much rom to play with :laugh:

No I don't regret buying it, but sad of SONY's service.
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I'm only disappointed about the camera.
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It's not the loudest, fastest but it's having build quality and for those who want quality and the money are not a problem i think it's the only option (if they are not Apple fans of course :laugh: )

Battery life sometimes can be dissapointing. Camera is so-so.
Other than that I'm satisfied.

Seems my gripes are the same as you guys.
Well it confirms that this isn't my mind playing, the grass is greener on the other side.
I'm very disappointed at the camera as this was one of my reasons for my purchase, and well the battery is starting to piss me off as if i'm away from home for long I end up home with 3 % left.
I'll be getting a i-9505 soon.

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Seems my gripes are the same as you guys.
Well it confirms that this isn't my mind playing, the grass is greener on the other side.
I'm very disappointed at the camera as this was one of my reasons for my purchase, and well the battery is starting to piss me off as if i'm away from home for long I end up home with 3 % left.
I'll be getting a i-9505 soon.
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What is everybody comparing the camera to? I have had A LOT of phones (see my sig) recently and I think the camera is better than anything except the Pureview 808. Having said that, I will take the other features, most noteably Android and Google Services over the other features in the Nokia, even the 1020.

After playing with my cousin's s4, the only I thing I like about the s4 is the camera features. Never regretted buying the Z when it was launched here and not waiting for the s4. I will only regret if there's something s4 can do that my Z can't in general. Since I got my wireless Internet, my battery life has been much better than before. With 3g I get around 4 and a half hours plus of screen on. Haven't test fully with wifi but currently on wifi, I'm on 70 percent with almost 2 hours of screen on time without uc and uv.
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No regrets here. Great simple phone.
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Well I'm on back s4 now so you see how that went.
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Im dissapointed with the sound quality over the headphones. But looking at other phones, things are same or worst. Iphone is the best in that matter but It can't compete with XZ at this stage. Appart from that, battery could be better for sure. Camera is only ok in a good light conditions. I dont regreet buying ZX. Other phones have their adv. and dis.
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I agree the camera is sub par along with the battery.
BUT this phone has a unique feel when held naked AND the screen is fantastic. The biggest positive for me is that this is the first android device that does not have any lag when texting regardless of keyboard used.

MinedSafe said:
Im dissapointed with the sound quality over the headphones. But looking at other phones, things are same or worst. Iphone is the best in that matter but It can't compete with XZ at this stage. Appart from that, battery could be better for sure. Camera is only ok in a good light conditions. I dont regreet buying ZX. Other phones have their adv. and dis.
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I consider the XZ sound quality out of the headphone jack to be very good. Well ahead of the S and almost on par of that of the Walkman Z, Sony's top Walkman player.
Speaker quality is another story. It is awful. But it might have an explanation, water resistance, you know.

i regret getting it because i preordered it for 749 AUD
the stock firmware is horrible
the camera is mediocre
and the battery life has gone terrible since 4.2.2
the phone gets hot, like, 60 degrees celsius on the cpu doing web browsing
also the wifi is a pain in the ass.
i wish i waited a bit of the gs4 as well, but i was desperate because my incredible S broke and i was using a nokia lol

i don't regret at all and im a proud owner of my xperia z

Planning on buying a xperia z.

I'm planning on buying a xperia z, but with all upgrades there's a few things I have to check before I can commit on buying a new phone.
1 - how stable are the cm10.2 builds ? Such as battery performance ?
2 - battery performance on stock firmware ?
Screenshots would be great...
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i got the phone for like 5 months and battery life is like 2.5 - 4 hours of screen time and 18 hours - 1.5 day of stand by
without stamina i dont use it
on stock

Cm 10.2 quite stable, battery is ok.
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Buy it! The phone is very good! Very snappy!
Battery Life is much much better than my Samsung...

i come from an s4... i get at least the same battery usage from the z...
it even performs better in games than the s4.. at least better than the one i had.

HellRoot said:
i come from an s4... i get at least the same battery usage from the z...
it even performs better in games than the s4.. at least better than the one i had.
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I don't believe this at all lol
The battery life is pretty bad OP to answer your question honesty. Also the screen is poor, which may bother you. (very bad contrast and viewing angles). Aside from that it is good. Great design, definitely turns heads
Go look at battery tests, S4 sits as one of the top.
Also op, if you get one without an unlockable bootloder (like myself), you'll never even get to try cm

Well I had 7 h screen on time, and one day < battery. Way better than my sgs2 had.
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Well I had 7 h screen on time, and one day < battery. Way better than my sgs2 had.
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yep, two people on this site get battery life like this...
Seems legit.
Go check any battery tests on gsmarena, etc.. Did not fare especially well.
I mean it isn't horrid, but 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 hours of screen on time isn't anything to write home about

Depends
Depends on how you intend on using it.
If you're a avid gamer, then I probably would not recommend it. Battery life when gaming is average or below average.
However if you're not, and gaming is reserved for the tablet, then I highly recommend it.
Aside from being one of the most beautiful phones out there, you can get it for quite a good price now. Performance is, honestly, all you really need at the moment.
Despite what people say, the screen is very sharp (admittedly viewing angles are not the best, but it's not a concern for me as I pretty much always view it front on. Also when you think about it, you get more privacy).
Battery life is not bad at all (if you don't run heavy games all the time). On screen time varies and can be between 3.5 - 5 hours or so, but don't be obsessed with the times though, just enjoy it. Unless you have nothing to do all day then it's quite hard to run out of battery during the day. Talk times and quality are pretty good.
Loving my Z, I can't say that this phone is the best at anything, but all together as a package it's quite awesome. Waterproofing is a bonus.
Give it a 0.2 mm thick back cover, custom rom, maybe a sound mod and I guarantee you won't regret buying one!

Coming from my beloved ville, I'm just looking at phones with 2gigs of ram and a quad cpu, and good dev support. its between these 4 phones at the moment
-nexus 4 (mainly for support and xda support)
-s3 i9305 ( better then the s3 as it was an extra gig of ram)
-note 2 (big ass screen)
-Sony xperia z (1080 screen)
Im not the hugest phone gamer, i mainly use my device for Instagram, tumblr, and other networking apps. Iv watched a few reviews on all 4 phones and I'm kinda leaning towards the s3 and the sony ATM. Its just the screen problems (battery drain, and poor viewing angles)
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My advice is not to be overly fussy about what you're looking at. By the time you decide, a bunch of new phones will be released and you'll have to start all over again.
IMO all 4 phones have all the goods you need to do what you want. For what you want to do, battery life on all 4 would be sufficient for a whole day.
They are really not all that different unless you go into the tiny details. Honestly, in my experience, being overly focused on the details will make you regret your purchase no matter what you buy.
I understand why iPhone lovers can be much less stressed with their phone choice because there is really no choice for them. I prevents them from feeling bad about making the wrong decision We all know that the iPhone is not the best but it's owners are happy. For android lovers there is a paradox of choice........ which in this case is a bad thing.
So try to look at it a different way.
Since it will be with you everyday, think about which phone matches you as a person, just like when you're choosing clothes, or a car. E.g if your practical or stylish. Reckless or careful etc.
I got the Z because I like style. You may think it may be a bit superficial but the viewing angles are really irrelevant when you think about it. When would you ever need wide viewing angles anyway? It's not like you have a group of 4-5 friends watching a movie on it all the time (if at all). I don't see anyone tilting their phones at an angle to use it. TV, yes, but phone, no. Everything is pretty much on par with the rest of them (except for maybe battery life on the Note 2, but it's too big IMO)
Trust me. Thinking about it this way will allow you to enjoy your phone more and not regret buying it.
If you ask me, I would recommend the XZ, S3, Nexus 4, Note 2 in that order.

adielee said:
My advice is not to be overly fussy about what you're looking at. By the time you decide, a bunch of new phones will be released and you'll have to start all over again.
IMO all 4 phones have all the goods you need to do what you want. For what you want to do, battery life on all 4 would be sufficient for a whole day.
They are really not all that different unless you go into the tiny details. Honestly, in my experience, being overly focused on the details will make you regret your purchase no matter what you buy.
I understand why iPhone lovers can be much less stressed with their phone choice because there is really no choice for them. I prevents them from feeling bad about making the wrong decision We all know that the iPhone is not the best but it's owners are happy. For android lovers there is a paradox of choice........ which in this case is a bad thing.
So try to look at it a different way.
Since it will be with you everyday, think about which phone matches you as a person, just like when you're choosing clothes, or a car. E.g if your practical or stylish. Reckless or careful etc.
I got the Z because I like style. You may think it may be a bit superficial but the viewing angles are really irrelevant when you think about it. When would you ever need wide viewing angles anyway? It's not like you have a group of 4-5 friends watching a movie on it all the time (if at all). I don't see anyone tilting their phones at an angle to use it. TV, yes, but phone, no. Everything is pretty much on par with the rest of them (except for maybe battery life on the Note 2, but it's too big IMO)
Trust me. Thinking about it this way will allow you to enjoy your phone more and not regret buying it.
If you ask me, I would recommend the XZ, S3, Nexus 4, Note 2 in that order.
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It isn't just viewing angles though, the screen is extremely washed out looking with bad contrast.
But view angles matter if, for example, your phone is laying down on your desk and you turn it on to glance at the time, a text message, etc.. It isn\t extreme angles, it is unreadable if you aren't looking at it directly on.
I own a note 2 and this phone, I wish I could have the two make a baby.
I love the design of this phone, but the screen really gets me down :/
Spending that much money, you shouldn't have to "settle"
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blackcell1 said:
Coming from my beloved ville, I'm just looking at phones with 2gigs of ram and a quad cpu, and good dev support. its between these 4 phones at the moment
-nexus 4 (mainly for support and xda support)
-s3 i9305 ( better then the s3 as it was an extra gig of ram)
-note 2 (big ass screen)
-Sony xperia z (1080 screen)
Im not the hugest phone gamer, i mainly use my device for Instagram, tumblr, and other networking apps. Iv watched a few reviews on all 4 phones and I'm kinda leaning towards the s3 and the sony ATM. Its just the screen problems (battery drain, and poor viewing angles)
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Any of those will preform better than the z, and will have much nicer screens.
Get the z only if fashion over function is your thought process (you want a nice looking phone, until you turn it on)

crixley said:
I don't believe this at all lol
The battery life is pretty bad OP to answer your question honesty. Also the screen is poor, which may bother you. (very bad contrast and viewing angles). Aside from that it is good. Great design, definitely turns heads
Go look at battery tests, S4 sits as one of the top.
Also op, if you get one without an unlockable bootloder (like myself), you'll never even get to try cm
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well... at first my s4 got 4 hours of screen time (set on low brightness) after a couple of months it was 2,5.. the samsung batteries are very bad..
the screen is poor... yes... but i like it better, the screen is more visible in the sun compared to the s4... i dont really like the oversaturated screen of the s4 anyway... so win win
great design... that is one of the things.. and waterproof... that was actually why i wanted to change... on my s4 i always ended up hitting the screen when touching the damn buttons and it made me angry in the end.
what amazes me.. is that the camera is the same but samsung has made a better firmware.. the camera works very well on s4.. and the z has a very poor camera compared... focus is not great, black dots etc, low light grain and such... EXMOR surely is just a name.. not worth anything imo

HellRoot said:
well... at first my s4 got 4 hours of screen time (set on low brightness) after a couple of months it was 2,5.. the samsung batteries are very bad..
the screen is poor... yes... but i like it better, the screen is more visible in the sun compared to the s4... i dont really like the oversaturated screen of the s4 anyway... so win win
great design... that is one of the things.. and waterproof... that was actually why i wanted to change... on my s4 i always ended up hitting the screen when touching the damn buttons and it made me angry in the end.
what amazes me.. is that the camera is the same but samsung has made a better firmware.. the camera works very well on s4.. and the z has a very poor camera compared... focus is not great, black dots etc, low light grain and such... EXMOR surely is just a name.. not worth anything imo
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Strange must have been a rogue app, I've had my note since it came out and battery life is the same as it was.
You can change to natural mode in screen settings to completely get rid of the oversaturation.
I definitely agree the z's design is amazing. Easily one of the nicest, if not the nicest, looking android phones there is.
What I don't get is why there is macro mode on Samsung but not Sony :/

blackcell1 said:
I'm planning on buying a xperia z, but with all upgrades there's a few things I have to check before I can commit on buying a new phone.
1 - how stable are the cm10.2 builds ? Such as battery performance ?
2 - battery performance on stock firmware ?
Screenshots would be great...
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It's a good phone for the price. It's got a sd slot which is always appreciated. Performance is fine and it's got 2gb ram, that will make it last at least 2 years.
The screen is fine for me. Yes, viewing angles aren't great but nothing to worry about, unless you watch very dark movies at night.
Battery is average, standby time is quite good, screen time goes from 2h - 5h depending on what you do.
Haven't tried cm10.2 but Sony stock firmware is quite vanilla.
It all depends on what do you want, how much do you want to spend, etc.
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crixley said:
Strange must have been a rogue app, I've had my note since it came out and battery life is the same as it was.
You can change to natural mode in screen settings to completely get rid of the oversaturation.
I definitely agree the z's design is amazing. Easily one of the nicest, if not the nicest, looking android phones there is.
What I don't get is why there is macro mode on Samsung but not Sony :/
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macro mode? in what way?
well... the phone was deep sleeping properly... so i dont know why the battery was that bad... at least now i can say that my phone has used 60% for 2 hours 10 minutes screen time, 1 hour of calls, sms and web usage... with 2 days of standby... i am not unhappy with that.
all stock.. no root or anything.. i have relocked as i need to get the camera fixed... as i have quite a few black dots... when i get it back.. i will root and unlock the bootloader..

HellRoot said:
macro mode? in what way?
well... the phone was deep sleeping properly... so i dont know why the battery was that bad... at least now i can say that my phone has used 60% for 2 hours 10 minutes screen time, 1 hour of calls, sms and web usage... with 2 days of standby... i am not unhappy with that.
all stock.. no root or anything.. i have relocked as i need to get the camera fixed... as i have quite a few black dots... when i get it back.. i will root and unlock the bootloader..
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I get about 8 hours of screen on time on my note over 2 days or so. Best battery life I've ever had by far.
By macro mode I mean in the camera, you cannot take true macro pics.
I can't unlock bootloader, I have a bell z :/

crixley said:
I don't believe this at all lol
The battery life is pretty bad OP to answer your question honesty. Also the screen is poor, which may bother you. (very bad contrast and viewing angles). Aside from that it is good. Great design, definitely turns heads
Go look at battery tests, S4 sits as one of the top.
Also op, if you get one without an unlockable bootloder (like myself), you'll never even get to try cm
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Well, just one thing to contrast. Even the xperia s has a "numberous" higher contrast, in real life it is another story. The display is quite bright and colours are natural. Contrast is good enough for meh.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
Well, just one thing to contrast. Even the xperia s has a "numberous" higher contrast, in real life it is another story. The display is quite bright and colours are natural. Contrast is good enough for meh.
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I traded it for a htc one anyway,,,
I'd like to say I'll miss it, but I won't

Well its looking that I'll be buying the phone on the weekend, iv been looking more into the stock ROM and it does look rather aosp. Does anyone know any details on if Sony's planning on releasing a 4.3 update ? And any info on the phone getting an official cm10.2 build ?
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Battery life, broken screens and hot back of XZ

Hi all!
I want to buy XZ in a few days, but I heard some bad stuff about it.
1. Battery life is very poor as I heard
2. Screens can just break in a half without a reason
3. Does that hot back trouble a lot?
Anyone can share his/her thoughts? I will really apreciate that.

Hi
these issues sound like pre release or first batch issues like most phones at release these are common issues . the phone's battery life is more then acceptable for 1 and half days use for lite to moderate use , with a suitable cover the phone is more then sturdy . the phone will only get hot after a long internet session or after playing graphic intensive games otherwise its mostly ship shape throughout the day . the xperia z wont disappoint the build quality is stil better then the samsung galaxy s4 which is a plastic phone .
have you considered the xperia z1 it has a newer xperia launcher and camera app software wise ?

keith456 said:
Hi
these issues sound like pre release or first batch issues like most phones at release these are common issues . the phone's battery life is more then acceptable for 1 and half days use for lite to moderate use , with a suitable cover the phone is more then sturdy . the phone will only get hot after a long internet session or after playing graphic intensive games otherwise its mostly ship shape throughout the day . the xperia z wont disappoint the build quality is stil better then the samsung galaxy s4 which is a plastic phone .
have you considered the xperia z1 it has a newer xperia launcher and camera app software wise ?
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Z1 is too expensive for me now unfortunately. I want to know some opinions, because I will be using it for about 2 years so i don't want to be dissapointed.

ChristO1624 said:
Z1 is too expensive for me now unfortunately. I want to know some opinions, because I will be using it for about 2 years so i don't want to be dissapointed.
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i see , you wont be disappointed i assure you its a good phone

ChristO1624 said:
Z1 is too expensive for me now unfortunately. I want to know some opinions, because I will be using it for about 2 years so i don't want to be dissapointed.
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Heck, I'm much in a position just like you a few days back, grab mine already, it is a good phone,well that depending on what you previously had
Nevertheless, I have been with Sony phone all these days and 3 of my previous phone easily reach 2 years after a really rough usage, And I'm sure this one will last just like others.And, FYI, my X10 and Arc still rocking, just not as fast as this new one.

bloodsuckingcomputer said:
Heck, I'm much in a position just like you a few days back, grab mine already, it is a good phone,well that depending on what you previously had
Nevertheless, I have been with Sony phone all these days and 3 of my previous phone easily reach 2 years after a really rough usage, And I'm sure this one will last just like others.And, FYI, my X10 and Arc still rocking, just not as fast as this new one.
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I am now using Xperia Neo, and I always have Sony Phones so XZ will be a good choice I think. But other opinions will be appreciated too

ChristO1624 said:
I am now using Xperia Neo, and I always have Sony Phones so XZ will be a good choice I think. But other opinions will be appreciated too
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Bro before i had a Xperia Neo too.
It's a good upgrade, especially the waterproofness is nice.
Also, the screen is miles better than the Xperia Neo screen and not as bad as most peeps say.
The phone gets hot true but only uf you do intense gaming, and it's not a big problem for me.
Also the sound quality is awesome and you get a good headset with your Z.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
Bro before i had a Xperia Neo too.
It's a good upgrade, especially the waterproofness is nice.
Also, the screen is miles better than the Xperia Neo screen and not as bad as most peeps say.
The phone gets hot true but only uf you do intense gaming, and it's not a big problem for me.
Also the sound quality is awesome and you get a good headset with your Z.
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great to see that opinion, it's very helpful I also thought about Xperia T, because my girlfriend has it, and I think I will choose between those two

Battery life lasts long enough to use during the day, before recharging when you get home. I have a thin bumper cover on mine and dropped it on a few occasions and no problems or damage. I even accidentally dropped it in the toilet, and was thankful for the water resistance My Z has become quite hot when flashing ROMs etc. but no back plate lifting so far. It's a great device IMO:thumbup:
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even if I don't let me phone's battery die , after a day of use , i get like 40-50% left , and at night i plug it . About build quality , i had s4 , s2 , note 2 , htc , but believe this phone is far more superior at build quality , even so I doesn''t surpass the HTC One(even if i hear it is kind of fragile). About broken screens , don't know , I own a XZ for 3 months now but haven't droped it once.

ChristO1624 said:
great to see that opinion, it's very helpful I also thought about Xperia T, because my girlfriend has it, and I think I will choose between those two
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Will T get kit kat? If not, my advice is, go for Z, guaranteed kit kat

Any other opinions? I'd rather buy it but I want to make the best choice

ChristO1624 said:
Any other opinions? I'd rather buy it but I want to make the best choice
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Coming from a HTC one (Stolen ) Only thing I miss is the more petite frame, speakers, and the ease of unlocking bootloader , camera is better (even front camera), battery life is better , waterproof, sexier than the htc (speakers made it ugly ) expandable storage, the screen sometimes I like sometimes I miss the HTC's blacks, colours seem more realistic tho with the xperia. Was going to get the Z1 but for £180 I couldnt say no to the Z.
That said I used it for a week before buying my own one (cousins ) and I fell in love with it, if I had known I would have got this from the start
Still havent unlocked bootloader keep getting weird error :\ and not sure I want too with because you loose bravia engine :|, I think there may be a clash with my fastboot drivers from the HTC? Anyway, get the Xperia you wont regret it

I will go for my XZ next weekend I think, I will post when I'll buy thanks for every opinion guyz!

Have you looked into nexus 5?
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Teo032 said:
Have you looked into nexus 5?
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N5 is not so good exept the pure super speed and 32k quadrant benchmark,
Display and etc.. are mostly equal or not as good as our Z.
And it's more expensive than Z.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
N5 is not so good exept the pure super speed and 32k quadrant benchmark,
Display and etc.. are mostly equal or not as good as our Z.
And it's more expensive than Z.
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The killer feature for me that I can hardly get on other smartphone brand ...... WATERPROOF....

Teo032 said:
Have you looked into nexus 5?
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Of course I looked, but it's not available in my country yet N5 is great. but not for me now,. I must go for XZ

Tommy-Geenexus said:
N5 is not so good exept the pure super speed and 32k quadrant benchmark
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Sold!
Lol I'm just joking, but remember the nexus series always starts out eh, then the developers really make a beast out the phone like the n4.
Just giving op another suggestion.
You'll have fun with this beauty though op.
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Teo032 said:
Sold!
Lol I'm just joking, but remember the nexus series always starts out eh, then the developers really make a beast out the phone like the n4.
Just giving op another suggestion.
You'll have fun with this beauty though op.
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Guys! Can u also please suggest me a good case or a bumper for my XZ?
bloodsuckingcomputer said:
The killer feature for me that I can hardly get on other smartphone brand ...... WATERPROOF....
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
N5 is not so good exept the pure super speed and 32k quadrant benchmark,
Display and etc.. are mostly equal or not as good as our Z.
And it's more expensive than Z.
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