I am yet to get this phone. But i have heard so many mixed opinions on this phone! Mostly negative.
I currently have a nexus 4. I just want to get peoples opinions on the
Xperia z display vs nexus 4 display? I know viewing angles are not good. but i don't plan to look at my phone from the side....
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The screen is beautiful when you look at it straight.I think better than the nexus 4.
Why open a new thread for this instead of reading/asking in the existing threads?
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love my new Sony XZ the screen is amazing. my last device was a galaxy s3 and i can defo say you wont be dissapointed if you get one
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love my new Sony XZ the screen is amazing. my last device was a galaxy s3 and i can defo say you wont be dissapointed if you get one
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Same. My last phone was a GS3 and wouldnt dream of going back. I love the screen of my Z.
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If your talking about just screen..Nexus 4 has the better calibrated screen..so when the calibration tool comes out for XZ it will probably beat it! But the XZ screen is also beautiful..specially the text are so crisp!
The color is not super vivid like the LED, and the contrast isn't very top class as well.
But besides these the screen itself is still pretty amazing! it's just sharp!
I actually dont think.that there's anything wrong with the display. Its the software. Look at photos with BE on...amazingly vivid colours - so the display can produce them, its just that in the UI it doesnt.
So many people complain about the viewing angles of the Z screen.... Why would you view it at an angle. How ridiculous would that look. It's a great phone with a great screen.
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If you can live with bad viewing angles then screen is fine. I just don't get it why sony has not enabled bravia in normal ui
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If you can live with bad viewing angles then screen is fine. I just don't get it why sony has not enabled bravia in normal ui
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I think due to battery life. Battery tests show the phone is not great for long term video viewing. Almost certainly due to bravia engines extra processing requirement.
If it was on all the time, people would complain about battery life.
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You should also check out the numerous videos on youtube comparing the xz and nexus 4. That way you can see the phones side by side and decide for yourself.
All the people saying that the screen looks bad, they must have eagle eye's. It looks much better than an iPhone's screen.
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technostein said:
I am yet to get this phone. But i have heard so many mixed opinions on this phone! Mostly negative.
I currently have a nexus 4. I just want to get peoples opinions on the
Xperia z display vs nexus 4 display? I know viewing angles are not good. but i don't plan to look at my phone from the side....
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really better than super amoled of SIII
decadan1977 said:
So many people complain about the viewing angles of the Z screen.... Why would you view it at an angle. How ridiculous would that look. It's a great phone with a great screen.
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Let's be fair - XZ viewing angles are not that great. Even a tiny change of viewing point results in slight display fade.
But I honestly can't see how is that a problem. I'd rather have not-the-best viewing angles with 1080p crisp display with natural colours than oversaturated display with pentile matrix, black clipping and burn-in issues
i'm sorry. as much as i like the phone - you have to admit the screen is pretty bad compared to other offerings on the market.
even place it next to an older gen phone like the one x and it's screen is marginally better..
i personally don't notice the difference in DPI between last gen 720p screens and these 1080p screens, and thats coming from a note 2 where the DPI was almost half than this.
but the colors are bad, the contrast is pretty bad, viewing angles are terrible.
ofcourse this is all relative, if you come from a phone with a normal grade screen then its not so bad, but all the other high end devices on the market have top notch screens which side by side are totally putting this one to shame, if you can live with that - go ahead, its a very nice device.
but alot of these people are sounding like they are trying to convince themselves of something that just ain't true...
perhaps with better calibration tools in the future this can be fixed, but right now its something you are going to have to live with.
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but alot of these people are sounding like they are trying to convince themselves of something that just ain't true...
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Well, to me you sound exactly the same I admit - the screen is not the best, and I never tried to convinve myself or others that it is, but you can't say it's bad, bad and terrible. And if you don't see the difference between Note 2 and XZ PPI - good for you, but for me the difference is very clear and visible.
It's simple - to each his own. If anybody is still in doubt - just go and check it in store, it's not ferbruary, it's available everywhere. If it's not for you - it's not for you. Simple as that
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Well, to me you sound exactly the same I admit - the screen is not the best, and I never tried to convinve myself or others that it is, but you can't say it's bad, bad and terrible. And if you don't see the difference between Note 2 and XZ PPI - good for you, but for me the difference is very clear and visible.
It's simple - to each his own. If anybody is still in doubt - just go and check it in store, it's not ferbruary, it's available everywhere. If it's not for you - it's not for you. Simple as that
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i didnt say the screen is terrible- its quite good, just sub-par compared to it's competitors, which is a shame because its not like the XZ has alot of advantages compared to it's competitors other than the water resistance and the design in general which is quite good.
but sure, as a device in its whole, there's nothing that's BAD about it, the screen is good, the performance is good, the camera is good, the design is good but when you put it next to a htc one, it's suddenly not such a good screen, the performance is lacking, the camera has its ups and downs, the battery is meh...
what i'm saying is you can't objectively say something is good or not without comparing it to it's direct competitors.
the galaxy 2 was a good phone, but compare it to current phones and its a piece of crap.
the xperia z is a great phone, and it has its advantages over it's competitors - heck, the water resistance just saved my phones life about 4 times yesterday alone... but the SCREEN is OBJECTIVELY not so good when you pit it against current gen devices, in fact- it's probably the worst 1080p screen on the market.
and while none of the 1080p screens on the market are actually bad, this one is still at the bottom of the list.
Look there's more than just viewing angles, deep blacks and over saturated colours. There's also detail and clarity as well as video playback and there, the Zs display is the best ever seen.
Check out the video below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpDi95S-PJ8
The Z totally owned the HTC One here. It's your choice. Lionking853 has also done a series of comparison videos in gaming and nothing compares to the Zs display.
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Thank you for all your opinions has helped a lot. In this video they say BE makes colours look washed out. So i am really confused lol.
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I have a difficult choice to make between choosing the three 2013 1080p flagship smartphones...
HTC One:
-subpar camera
-4.7" screen but with thick bezels so size of the phone is actually same as the 5"ers (The curved back makes it easy to
handle one handed and thumb can reach other side of screen very easily so I think a 5" would be nice)
-removed the 3rd softkey and put a HTC logo there??? (wtf)
Xperia Z/ZL:
-bad screen, bad screen viewing angles
-horrible battery life, but that comes from the bad screen thats too power hungry probably...
Galaxy S4:
-Pentile Screen, Nuff said
I really wish there was a 1080p 5" compact (ZL/S4) RGB stripe screen flagship with good battery life (8+ hours screen on, video/browsing)
If the xperia had 8 hours instead of 5.5 hours i'd probably get that despite bad viewing angle and contrast ratio of the TFT screen...
I think I am just going to get the HTC One, what do you guys think?
I know this is the HTC One forum, but some unbiased opinions would be cool,
Im still scared if i buy one i'll get a unit with the gaps problem some people are reporting...
Judging from your negatives, I'd say the SGS4 is your best bet. Pentile won't matter at 448 PPI, you just won't be able to see the difference.
8+ hrs screen on? Not gonna happen any time soon.
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8+ hrs screen on? Not gonna happen any time soon.
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I remember my Galaxy S getting around 3 hours screen on and being amazed. People are never satisfied
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Judging from your negatives, I'd say the SGS4 is your best bet. Pentile won't matter at 448 PPI, you just won't be able to see the difference.
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Hm, I just can't seem to buy into the "naked eye cant see anything past x ppi"
Even if we cant see the pixels individually, it would still be sharper when u look at it wont it?
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8+ hrs screen on? Not gonna happen any time soon.
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Hmm...check the reviews and battery tests? S4 and HTC One both have 10 hours video playback or browsing while xperia Z/ZL 5.5 hours...
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Hm, I just can't seem to buy into the "naked eye cant see anything past x ppi"
Even if we cant see the pixels individually, it would still be sharper when u look at it wont it?
Hmm...check the reviews and battery tests? S4 and HTC One both have 10 hours video playback or browsing while xperia Z/ZL 5.5 hours...
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ANY 1080p phone will be very sharp, I'm not saying you won't notice a difference between them. I'm just saying the difference is going to be in the type of panel used.
Amoled = blacks, vibrant
IPS = brightness, neutral colors
TFT = washed out, poor viewing angles, light bleeding on edges of screen
If it was up to me, the Sony Z would have no business being compared to the One and the S4.
hardbrick123 said:
I have a difficult choice to make between choosing the three 2013 1080p flagship smartphones...
HTC One:
-subpar camera
-4.7" screen but with thick bezels so size of the phone is actually same as the 5"ers (The curved back makes it easy to
handle one handed and thumb can reach other side of screen very easily so I think a 5" would be nice)
-removed the 3rd softkey and put a HTC logo there??? (wtf)
Xperia Z/ZL:
-bad screen, bad screen viewing angles
-horrible battery life, but that comes from the bad screen thats too power hungry probably...
Galaxy S4:
-Pentile Screen, Nuff said
I really wish there was a 1080p 5" compact (ZL/S4) RGB stripe screen flagship with good battery life (8+ hours screen on, video/browsing)
If the xperia had 8 hours instead of 5.5 hours i'd probably get that despite bad viewing angle and contrast ratio of the TFT screen...
I think I am just going to get the HTC One, what do you guys think?
I know this is the HTC One forum, but some unbiased opinions would be cool,
Im still scared if i buy one i'll get a unit with the gaps problem some people are reporting...
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I agree and feel the same about 2013 devices. Just stick with the note2 and see what the note3 brings.
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Samsung switched to RGB stripe with the S2, but they decided to go back to pentile cross hatch bs with the s3 and now s4...
They realized that overall it wont really hurt their image that much since majority of users don't even know the full specs
of their own phone...
Overall they cut a lot of cost in manufacturing and profits skyrocket...
Sigh, there needs to be more competition, which will be good for consumers.....whenever a company dominates a market, consumers lose out =(
Samsung could have made the S4 Aluminum body and RGB stripe, which will give their company the image of a premium smartphone maker, but they dont need to because their profits will be a lot higher if they keep doing what they do...
by adding a question in your title, this should be in the q&a section.
but anyways
if your looking for battery life, the s4 has a better standby time.
But both devices are great. You decide on which device you want.
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8+ hrs screen on? Not gonna happen any time soon.
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Well there's a thread that actually proves that over time, htc one could give 7hrs of screen time so there...
Why not wait a bit for what Google and Motorola are cooking? Based on your post, I can (ALMOST) see into the future and see that you will be complaining about one thing or another no matter which of these three devices you'll get. No offense intended, okay?
Larry Page did say that Motorola would be launching a phone with an "unadultered" Android experience, and people would start to not need to charge their devices every day, worry about kids spilling liquid on phones, and drop their phones without getting worried. And rumors say that the next Motorola phones (or probably just the X Phone) would have a camera based on the technology that Canon (or was it Nikon?) uses.
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Why not wait a bit for what Google and Motorola are cooking? Based on your post, I can (ALMOST) see into the future and see that you will be complaining about one thing or another no matter which of these three devices you'll get. No offense intended, okay?
Larry Page did say that Motorola would be launching a phone with an "unadultered" Android experience, and people would start to not need to charge their devices every day, worry about kids spilling liquid on phones, and drop their phones without getting worried. And rumors say that the next Motorola phones (or probably just the X Phone) would have a camera based on the technology that Canon (or was it Nikon?) uses.
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That might take until August though...=(
I wonder how the new pentile layout looks, instead of the RGBG in the S3, now the subpixel arrangement in the S4 has the green subpixels on a diagonal axis to the red and blue subpixels....hmmm
motorola will release tiny 4.3 inch phones . Even though i saw the petition on gsmarena. I like the 4.7-5 inch sizes. 5.5 is fairly large, but that should be the limit on phones. Hopefully phones that are being released at the end of this year and next year will improve on software optimizations (also KLP) on making android super super smooth, and manufacturers working on their skins making it optimized. Even though sense is somewhat heavy, its good on battery life.
Being on stock android is boring imo.
This design on the htc one is phenomenal, hopefully next years htc will build upon this and hit every sweet spot.
Hi guys. Have gone back quite a few threads in here so apologies if this has already been asked.
I am coming up to the magic upgrade date and am very keen on the xperia z. I have been on xda for nearly 2 years now and know that this community is the dog's and you guys can help me out. I know it all comes down to personal preference, but seeing as you have had the phone for a few months now can anyone give me any comments, likes or dislikes or reviews on the phone? I am asking the same question in the HTC one page as torn between the two, but keen to mix it up with Sony for the next few years. Your help is much appreciated.
Peace out.
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Hi guys. Have gone back quite a few threads in here so apologies if this has already been asked.
I am coming up to the magic upgrade date and am very keen on the xperia z. I have been on xda for nearly 2 years now and know that this community is the dog's and you guys can help me out. I know it all comes down to personal preference, but seeing as you have had the phone for a few months now can anyone give me any comments, likes or dislikes or reviews on the phone? I am asking the same question in the HTC one page as torn between the two, but keen to mix it up with Sony for the next few years. Your help is much appreciated.
Peace out.
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first tell us what do you want most out of your phone? battery life? esthetic? what do you do with your phone? movies? text? games alot?
I own the Z and I dont feel its a substantial upgrade from the S3, limiting battery life from a 7000mah battery kinda sucks too.
I assume you are using a HTC Incredible S, according to your signature.
If that's the case then my experience may reflect yours.
Previously i've a SE Xperia Arc S. It was incredibly fast coming from my old motorola milestone, the screen was better, had HD recording etc. However after the ICS came it became sooooooo slow and choppy, i couldn't stand even touching it. Luckily i had an unlocked bootloader, so i could install CM/AOKP. The major bottleneck of the phone was the low RAM. 512 MB onboard, 380 MB usable due to the Exmor sensor. The battery life was poor, so was the quality of the arc (plastic cover breaking, cracks, scratches on the display, chrome parts loosing their color etc.)
Finally, after 2 years i replaced it with an unbranded xperia z. Oh god, where should i begin? The look and feel of the phone are outstanding. The build quality is top notch (it fell off a table 3 times, surviving without a single scratch). The display is incredible, very very crisp, natural colors and good brightness. If you are used to oversatured colors then you might dislike this one. Perfect perfomance in my opinion (coming from a single core 1,4ghz cpu ), rarely any hiccups or slowdowns. Sure the HTC One might have a snapdragon 600, but whats the increase on paper? 15%? You wouldn't even notice the difference in everyday use tbh. The development is also really fast. I think the first working CM10.1 was out before the phone was actually released.
Anyway, i'm in love with this phone, and if i had the chance to exchange it with a different one, i probably wouldn't do it.
I personally have a xperia z love it battery life is good screen excellent as I had a Samsung galaxy note 2 and traded up to the xperia z. I send text make calls listen to music I use the sat nav software very quick phone can't fault it even with stock rom.
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first tell us what do you want most out of your phone? battery life? esthetic? what do you do with your phone? movies? text? games alot?
I own the Z and I dont feel its a substantial upgrade from the S3, limiting battery life from a 7000mah battery kinda sucks too.
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Good point! I don't have the time to play games on it and when I do I'm straight on the xbox. The look and build quality of the phone is important to me that is why I have never gone for an xperia in the past and not considering the GSIIII. Camera and video is important as I have 2 kids... for my sins, as is battery life and speed of the phone. This will be my first quad core. Support is also important. My ICS is rooted and flashed so I may do this with the new phone. For all these reasons I'm looking at the Sony.
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I personally have a xperia z love it battery life is good screen excellent as I had a Samsung galaxy note 2 and traded up to the xperia z. I send text make calls listen to music I use the sat nav software very quick phone can't fault it even with stock rom.
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Oh yeah listen to loads of music through it so sound is also important.
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Stay away from the xperia z!!!!
this phone is an amazing built piece of ****
ihaxda1 said:
Stay away from the xperia z!!!!
this phone is an amazing built piece of ****
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Really!? Why? Have you got the phone....?
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VaderXI said:
Good point! I don't have the time to play games on it and when I do I'm straight on the xbox. The look and build quality of the phone is important to me that is why I have never gone for an xperia in the past and not considering the GSIIII. Camera and video is important as I have 2 kids... for my sins, as is battery life and speed of the phone. This will be my first quad core. Support is also important. My ICS is rooted and flashed so I may do this with the new phone. For all these reasons I'm looking at the Sony.
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If Esthetic is the most important to you then this phone is it. If you are not a photographer or dont have photographer eyes the video and photo are "good" (low light is bad) battery life- will you be around wifi alot? if not then my typical usage is 13 hours standby and 2.5 hours screen on no wifi. speed is good no lag with NOVA launcher slight lag on xperia launcher if you have alot of widget like me. support? like dev? not alot lol...I think you should go with S4. I honestly only kept this phone because its different then what the rest of the U.S market uses. I miss my S3 a lot though.
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Really!? Why? Have you got the phone....?
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yes i got it its fast and everything but the sony dont know how to make a software
the speaker is a joke
the headphones is not loud
and the camera looks like an 2001 phone
and its 4.1.2 and the bottom bar is too big and u cant change quick widgets
its a boring phone go for the galaxy s4
Well I traded my S4 for the Xperia Z and I am not looking. Back. I mean I do not like that I can't change the battery but that's about it battery life on this device seems far superior to everything I used yet. I also didn't like that the xperia has software buttons and take away a good amount of realestate from the screen but there is hack that makes it possible to get the whole screen back. I am personally using this hack. Now I have really 5 inches of beauty. Anyhow besides that the experia z is a great phone. By the way it wasn't a one on one trade. The S4 I got 550 for and bought the xperia z for 300 so I got a better looking better battery somewhat worse camera and 250 on top for pretty much the same thing plus u still can use the normal mhl plug in and don't have to buy the special Samsung S3 S4 mhl version. I like that. So to sum it up. Besides the non removable battery and the not as good camera I think the xperia z is a even match to the S4 in some stuff even superior to the S4.
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If Esthetic is the most important to you then this phone is it. If you are not a photographer or dont have photographer eyes the video and photo are "good" (low light is bad) battery life- will you be around wifi alot? if not then my typical usage is 13 hours standby and 2.5 hours screen on no wifi. speed is good no lag with NOVA launcher slight lag on xperia launcher if you have alot of widget like me. support? like dev? not alot lol...I think you should go with S4. I honestly only kept this phone because its different then what the rest of the U.S market uses. I miss my S3 a lot though.
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2.5 hours of screen on time without wifi? That's really bad. Are you on 3g? My 3g is on all the time and the worst I got is around 3 and a half hours . Nowadays I got close to 5 hours or more..
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2.5 hours of screen on time without wifi? That's really bad. Are you on 3g? My 3g is on all the time and the worst I got is around 3 and a half hours . Nowadays I got close to 5 hours or more..
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Tmobile USA 3.5G lol they dont have LTE yet but LTE consume more power from what i heard.. i'm fine with HSPA+
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yes i got it its fast and everything but the sony dont know how to make a software
the speaker is a joke
the headphones is not loud
and the camera looks like an 2001 phone
and its 4.1.2 and the bottom bar is too big and u cant change quick widgets
its a boring phone go for the galaxy s4
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Sorry to hear that Bro. I won't be going for an S4 as the wife has an S3 and I flatly don't like it. Horrible plasticy phone. The only other contender, at the moment, is the HTC One.
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The main issue with Samsung phones is that the screen always burns in after a while and that it has when u have a black background those visible black spots on the whole screen they look like black drops and also it has a very bad black pixelation when watching movies with a lot of dark in it. That's just the amolad screen tech. Not that good when it comes to burn in and black.
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Tmobile USA 3.5G lol they dont have LTE yet but LTE consume more power from what i heard.. i'm fine with HSPA+
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Same h+ is what I meant haha..
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The main issue with Samsung phones is that the screen always burns in after a while and that it has when u have a black background those visible black spots on the whole screen they look like black drops and also it has a very bad black pixelation when watching movies with a lot of dark in it. That's just the amolad screen tech. Not that good when it comes to burn in and black.
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I own the S3 for a year (since it release), this never happen before, are we talking over a 5 years time span? who own a phone for that long? this isnt a TV. The black is very very nice black Samsung did alot of study with this IMO, they know the consumer love saturated picture and thats what they incorporated, for photographer this is a nightmare because we stick to "true color". In the end, they are doing this to make money, I guarantee you they make more money with their AMOLED screen then Sony with their true color TFT screen. Also people complaining aobut the weight of the S3, isnt weight was a big deal for a phone in recent years? the fact that they make the phone plastic, so its as light as possible just doesnt satisfy some people. if you want a device that is not plasticly then you gotta have an aluminum body which create more weight. I dont think Samsung did it to be cheap, just what the masses want. A phone that is bigger than the iphone and yet weight less (or the same) is a win in my book.
Just have a black picture or a black background and u gonna see some black bleeding issues. I had this with all Samsung phones and there r a lot of postings and also videos about those black clipping issues on amoload screens. It is a known issue.
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Stay away from the xperia z!!!!
this phone is an amazing built piece of ****
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You shouldn't even bother posting. Your as useful as a chocolate teapot.
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I own the S3 for a year (since it release), this never happen before, are we talking over a 5 years time span? who own a phone for that long? this isnt a TV. The black is very very nice black Samsung did alot of study with this IMO, they know the consumer love saturated picture and thats what they incorporated, for photographer this is a nightmare because we stick to "true color". In the end, they are doing this to make money, I guarantee you they make more money with their AMOLED screen then Sony with their true color TFT screen. Also people complaining aobut the weight of the S3, isnt weight was a big deal for a phone in recent years? the fact that they make the phone plastic, so its as light as possible just doesnt satisfy some people. if you want a device that is not plasticly then you gotta have an aluminum body which create more weight. I dont think Samsung did it to be cheap, just what the masses want. A phone that is bigger than the iphone and yet weight less (or the same) is a win in my book.
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At the end of the day it's whatever floats your boat. S3/4 doesn't float mine.
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I'm planning on buying a xperia z, but with all upgrades there's a few things I have to check before I can commit on buying a new phone.
1 - how stable are the cm10.2 builds ? Such as battery performance ?
2 - battery performance on stock firmware ?
Screenshots would be great...
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i got the phone for like 5 months and battery life is like 2.5 - 4 hours of screen time and 18 hours - 1.5 day of stand by
without stamina i dont use it
on stock
Cm 10.2 quite stable, battery is ok.
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Buy it! The phone is very good! Very snappy!
Battery Life is much much better than my Samsung...
i come from an s4... i get at least the same battery usage from the z...
it even performs better in games than the s4.. at least better than the one i had.
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i come from an s4... i get at least the same battery usage from the z...
it even performs better in games than the s4.. at least better than the one i had.
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I don't believe this at all lol
The battery life is pretty bad OP to answer your question honesty. Also the screen is poor, which may bother you. (very bad contrast and viewing angles). Aside from that it is good. Great design, definitely turns heads
Go look at battery tests, S4 sits as one of the top.
Also op, if you get one without an unlockable bootloder (like myself), you'll never even get to try cm
Well I had 7 h screen on time, and one day < battery. Way better than my sgs2 had.
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Well I had 7 h screen on time, and one day < battery. Way better than my sgs2 had.
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yep, two people on this site get battery life like this...
Seems legit.
Go check any battery tests on gsmarena, etc.. Did not fare especially well.
I mean it isn't horrid, but 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 hours of screen on time isn't anything to write home about
Depends
Depends on how you intend on using it.
If you're a avid gamer, then I probably would not recommend it. Battery life when gaming is average or below average.
However if you're not, and gaming is reserved for the tablet, then I highly recommend it.
Aside from being one of the most beautiful phones out there, you can get it for quite a good price now. Performance is, honestly, all you really need at the moment.
Despite what people say, the screen is very sharp (admittedly viewing angles are not the best, but it's not a concern for me as I pretty much always view it front on. Also when you think about it, you get more privacy).
Battery life is not bad at all (if you don't run heavy games all the time). On screen time varies and can be between 3.5 - 5 hours or so, but don't be obsessed with the times though, just enjoy it. Unless you have nothing to do all day then it's quite hard to run out of battery during the day. Talk times and quality are pretty good.
Loving my Z, I can't say that this phone is the best at anything, but all together as a package it's quite awesome. Waterproofing is a bonus.
Give it a 0.2 mm thick back cover, custom rom, maybe a sound mod and I guarantee you won't regret buying one!
Coming from my beloved ville, I'm just looking at phones with 2gigs of ram and a quad cpu, and good dev support. its between these 4 phones at the moment
-nexus 4 (mainly for support and xda support)
-s3 i9305 ( better then the s3 as it was an extra gig of ram)
-note 2 (big ass screen)
-Sony xperia z (1080 screen)
Im not the hugest phone gamer, i mainly use my device for Instagram, tumblr, and other networking apps. Iv watched a few reviews on all 4 phones and I'm kinda leaning towards the s3 and the sony ATM. Its just the screen problems (battery drain, and poor viewing angles)
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My advice is not to be overly fussy about what you're looking at. By the time you decide, a bunch of new phones will be released and you'll have to start all over again.
IMO all 4 phones have all the goods you need to do what you want. For what you want to do, battery life on all 4 would be sufficient for a whole day.
They are really not all that different unless you go into the tiny details. Honestly, in my experience, being overly focused on the details will make you regret your purchase no matter what you buy.
I understand why iPhone lovers can be much less stressed with their phone choice because there is really no choice for them. I prevents them from feeling bad about making the wrong decision We all know that the iPhone is not the best but it's owners are happy. For android lovers there is a paradox of choice........ which in this case is a bad thing.
So try to look at it a different way.
Since it will be with you everyday, think about which phone matches you as a person, just like when you're choosing clothes, or a car. E.g if your practical or stylish. Reckless or careful etc.
I got the Z because I like style. You may think it may be a bit superficial but the viewing angles are really irrelevant when you think about it. When would you ever need wide viewing angles anyway? It's not like you have a group of 4-5 friends watching a movie on it all the time (if at all). I don't see anyone tilting their phones at an angle to use it. TV, yes, but phone, no. Everything is pretty much on par with the rest of them (except for maybe battery life on the Note 2, but it's too big IMO)
Trust me. Thinking about it this way will allow you to enjoy your phone more and not regret buying it.
If you ask me, I would recommend the XZ, S3, Nexus 4, Note 2 in that order.
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My advice is not to be overly fussy about what you're looking at. By the time you decide, a bunch of new phones will be released and you'll have to start all over again.
IMO all 4 phones have all the goods you need to do what you want. For what you want to do, battery life on all 4 would be sufficient for a whole day.
They are really not all that different unless you go into the tiny details. Honestly, in my experience, being overly focused on the details will make you regret your purchase no matter what you buy.
I understand why iPhone lovers can be much less stressed with their phone choice because there is really no choice for them. I prevents them from feeling bad about making the wrong decision We all know that the iPhone is not the best but it's owners are happy. For android lovers there is a paradox of choice........ which in this case is a bad thing.
So try to look at it a different way.
Since it will be with you everyday, think about which phone matches you as a person, just like when you're choosing clothes, or a car. E.g if your practical or stylish. Reckless or careful etc.
I got the Z because I like style. You may think it may be a bit superficial but the viewing angles are really irrelevant when you think about it. When would you ever need wide viewing angles anyway? It's not like you have a group of 4-5 friends watching a movie on it all the time (if at all). I don't see anyone tilting their phones at an angle to use it. TV, yes, but phone, no. Everything is pretty much on par with the rest of them (except for maybe battery life on the Note 2, but it's too big IMO)
Trust me. Thinking about it this way will allow you to enjoy your phone more and not regret buying it.
If you ask me, I would recommend the XZ, S3, Nexus 4, Note 2 in that order.
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It isn't just viewing angles though, the screen is extremely washed out looking with bad contrast.
But view angles matter if, for example, your phone is laying down on your desk and you turn it on to glance at the time, a text message, etc.. It isn\t extreme angles, it is unreadable if you aren't looking at it directly on.
I own a note 2 and this phone, I wish I could have the two make a baby.
I love the design of this phone, but the screen really gets me down :/
Spending that much money, you shouldn't have to "settle"
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Coming from my beloved ville, I'm just looking at phones with 2gigs of ram and a quad cpu, and good dev support. its between these 4 phones at the moment
-nexus 4 (mainly for support and xda support)
-s3 i9305 ( better then the s3 as it was an extra gig of ram)
-note 2 (big ass screen)
-Sony xperia z (1080 screen)
Im not the hugest phone gamer, i mainly use my device for Instagram, tumblr, and other networking apps. Iv watched a few reviews on all 4 phones and I'm kinda leaning towards the s3 and the sony ATM. Its just the screen problems (battery drain, and poor viewing angles)
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Any of those will preform better than the z, and will have much nicer screens.
Get the z only if fashion over function is your thought process (you want a nice looking phone, until you turn it on)
crixley said:
I don't believe this at all lol
The battery life is pretty bad OP to answer your question honesty. Also the screen is poor, which may bother you. (very bad contrast and viewing angles). Aside from that it is good. Great design, definitely turns heads
Go look at battery tests, S4 sits as one of the top.
Also op, if you get one without an unlockable bootloder (like myself), you'll never even get to try cm
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well... at first my s4 got 4 hours of screen time (set on low brightness) after a couple of months it was 2,5.. the samsung batteries are very bad..
the screen is poor... yes... but i like it better, the screen is more visible in the sun compared to the s4... i dont really like the oversaturated screen of the s4 anyway... so win win
great design... that is one of the things.. and waterproof... that was actually why i wanted to change... on my s4 i always ended up hitting the screen when touching the damn buttons and it made me angry in the end.
what amazes me.. is that the camera is the same but samsung has made a better firmware.. the camera works very well on s4.. and the z has a very poor camera compared... focus is not great, black dots etc, low light grain and such... EXMOR surely is just a name.. not worth anything imo
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well... at first my s4 got 4 hours of screen time (set on low brightness) after a couple of months it was 2,5.. the samsung batteries are very bad..
the screen is poor... yes... but i like it better, the screen is more visible in the sun compared to the s4... i dont really like the oversaturated screen of the s4 anyway... so win win
great design... that is one of the things.. and waterproof... that was actually why i wanted to change... on my s4 i always ended up hitting the screen when touching the damn buttons and it made me angry in the end.
what amazes me.. is that the camera is the same but samsung has made a better firmware.. the camera works very well on s4.. and the z has a very poor camera compared... focus is not great, black dots etc, low light grain and such... EXMOR surely is just a name.. not worth anything imo
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Strange must have been a rogue app, I've had my note since it came out and battery life is the same as it was.
You can change to natural mode in screen settings to completely get rid of the oversaturation.
I definitely agree the z's design is amazing. Easily one of the nicest, if not the nicest, looking android phones there is.
What I don't get is why there is macro mode on Samsung but not Sony :/
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I'm planning on buying a xperia z, but with all upgrades there's a few things I have to check before I can commit on buying a new phone.
1 - how stable are the cm10.2 builds ? Such as battery performance ?
2 - battery performance on stock firmware ?
Screenshots would be great...
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It's a good phone for the price. It's got a sd slot which is always appreciated. Performance is fine and it's got 2gb ram, that will make it last at least 2 years.
The screen is fine for me. Yes, viewing angles aren't great but nothing to worry about, unless you watch very dark movies at night.
Battery is average, standby time is quite good, screen time goes from 2h - 5h depending on what you do.
Haven't tried cm10.2 but Sony stock firmware is quite vanilla.
It all depends on what do you want, how much do you want to spend, etc.
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Strange must have been a rogue app, I've had my note since it came out and battery life is the same as it was.
You can change to natural mode in screen settings to completely get rid of the oversaturation.
I definitely agree the z's design is amazing. Easily one of the nicest, if not the nicest, looking android phones there is.
What I don't get is why there is macro mode on Samsung but not Sony :/
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macro mode? in what way?
well... the phone was deep sleeping properly... so i dont know why the battery was that bad... at least now i can say that my phone has used 60% for 2 hours 10 minutes screen time, 1 hour of calls, sms and web usage... with 2 days of standby... i am not unhappy with that.
all stock.. no root or anything.. i have relocked as i need to get the camera fixed... as i have quite a few black dots... when i get it back.. i will root and unlock the bootloader..
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macro mode? in what way?
well... the phone was deep sleeping properly... so i dont know why the battery was that bad... at least now i can say that my phone has used 60% for 2 hours 10 minutes screen time, 1 hour of calls, sms and web usage... with 2 days of standby... i am not unhappy with that.
all stock.. no root or anything.. i have relocked as i need to get the camera fixed... as i have quite a few black dots... when i get it back.. i will root and unlock the bootloader..
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I get about 8 hours of screen on time on my note over 2 days or so. Best battery life I've ever had by far.
By macro mode I mean in the camera, you cannot take true macro pics.
I can't unlock bootloader, I have a bell z :/
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I don't believe this at all lol
The battery life is pretty bad OP to answer your question honesty. Also the screen is poor, which may bother you. (very bad contrast and viewing angles). Aside from that it is good. Great design, definitely turns heads
Go look at battery tests, S4 sits as one of the top.
Also op, if you get one without an unlockable bootloder (like myself), you'll never even get to try cm
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Well, just one thing to contrast. Even the xperia s has a "numberous" higher contrast, in real life it is another story. The display is quite bright and colours are natural. Contrast is good enough for meh.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
Well, just one thing to contrast. Even the xperia s has a "numberous" higher contrast, in real life it is another story. The display is quite bright and colours are natural. Contrast is good enough for meh.
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I traded it for a htc one anyway,,,
I'd like to say I'll miss it, but I won't
Well its looking that I'll be buying the phone on the weekend, iv been looking more into the stock ROM and it does look rather aosp. Does anyone know any details on if Sony's planning on releasing a 4.3 update ? And any info on the phone getting an official cm10.2 build ?
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I've seen a few comparisons on the Moto X, pre and post update online. I had one for a few weeks pre-update (Verizon...), and the camera was really the main reason I ended up ditching it. So I have a couple of questions for anybody that has the update:
I've seen a few post-update comparisons to the likes of the HTC One, and it still has a blown out look at times... but I wanted to hear from actual owners of the device before making a judgment call, since most people don't walk around comparing with 2 or 3 other devices
Did the software update also improve the videos?
What about usability - I know it said it was going to speed up auto-focus, navigation, etc., but did it really? Or is it not really noticeable?
Flash performance - improved at all? Or still slow and very blown out?
Thanks!
edit: reading things like this is what's making me hesitate to jump back on the bandwagon just yet
It still has some blowout issues but not nearly as bad as before. That is just an issue with the rgbc sensor. That's the same reason Sony stopped using similar tech in their phones.
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Little bit disappointing that the camera is still not quite up to par with the iPhone or S4. Might wait to see how the Nexus 5 compares.
I don't need absolute perfect pictures (it is a phone after all) but blowing out white pictures is a noticeable problem.
It looks good with well lit photos but dark photos still look awful. It's probably a better camera than the HTC One I'm coming from, the compromises are just different
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It looks good with well lit photos but dark photos still look awful. It's probably a better camera than the HTC One I'm coming from, the compromises are just different
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So you aren't getting the white fuzzy issues in daylight pictures?
My camera actually has no issues at all. Light or dark since the update
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So you aren't getting the white fuzzy issues in daylight pictures?
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No. The daylight photos look great. Really clear with excellent color accuracy.
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bpschoon said:
No. The daylight photos look great. Really clear with excellent color accuracy.
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Good to hear. kind of conflicting reports but the positive ones seem more common.
It seems to me they adjusted the contrast and saturation more than anything else, mostly for the positive. I think the sensors or optics they used just aren't up to par, in general, compared to the likes of the 5, S4, etc. Has anybody noticed any pickup in overall speed, both in general, and with the shutter?
The other thing I've noticed is this - these phones touting larger pixels all tend to blow out whites and struggle with balance from time to time. The HTC One does it, the X did (and still does to a point it appears, but not as bad now?), and I've been trying out an iPhone 5S for a bit now, and even it does it as well - but the processor plus software really helps keep it in check 95% of the time.
Is there a definitive way to tell which screen I have? I'm a proud new owner of a White Xperia Z1 but how do I know if I have the new Xperia Z1 screen or the old Xperia Z screen.
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This thread will help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462767
x016x said:
Is there a definitive way to tell which screen I have? I'm a proud new owner of a White Xperia Z1 but how do I know if I have the new Xperia Z1 screen or the old Xperia Z screen.
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Short answer actually, you have the Xperia Z1 screen. How do I know this? Because all Z1s come with Z1 screens...
The rumors of there being multiple different screens are for all I've seen just rumors, literally everyone has reported the same panel identifier.
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This thread will help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462767
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That's brilliant. I'm only asking since there was a report on GSM Arena saying that some models of the phone have the older Xperia Z screen installed with the poor viewing angles. There were scattered reports all over saying that this was true and I was only asking if there was a definite way to tell which screen you had because the viewing angles on mine did seem a little funny.
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All Z1 have bad screen
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Coming from an iPhone 5, the viewing angles on the Z1 are pretty atrocious...
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Great another pointless thread, just going to open up a can of worms for the trolls!
As the 2nd post has pointed out the thread you should of asked the question in, please close this one.
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It boils down to this, either you like the Z1 screen or you don't. That is the only reason there are reports of "bad" screens. It is the same screen, but the users that like the screen report it as being "the good screen" and those that don't like the screen, well, they have the "bad screen from the Z". Why would you need to be able to view your screen from an angle? There is literally no point.
It's so painfully obvious, why is nobody realising this?
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It boils down to this, either you like the Z1 screen or you don't. That is the only reason there are reports of "bad" screens. It is the same screen, but the users that like the screen report it as being "the good screen" and those that don't like the screen, well, they have the "bad screen from the Z". Why would you need to be able to view your screen from an angle? There is literally no point.
It's so painfully obvious, why is nobody realising this?
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I must agree here, this is a pointless thread. The OP should have searched and posted in thread where this has been discussed. I think the screen on the Z1 is more than adequate, yes viewing angles arent as good as other phones, but like myself and others have said, who on earth constantly use a phone at an angle?
Like it or not?
The thing with Z1 Is that all journalists all over the world are calling it the best phone on the market with fabulous screen and picture quality compared to all other top models.
People order them because of the test results.
So when people got them in their hands they get frustrated over the bad screens and picture quality.
We are now 4 friends that are returning them and are trying to find out what units they where testing in the media. It's obvious that it's not the same units that people on the street gets.
They have tested them side by side with units that I already have and I respect their judgement when they say Z1 has better screen and picture quality but it has to be something with the units on the market.
Even a 3 year old can see that it's not the case.
After 2 firmware updates it's still not competitive to other top units. Nobody and I mean nobody will rate Z1 over other top units if they test/compare them side by side in shops. So why did they get the good reviews??
Yes. I'm not happy.
That is because I convinced 2 people to wait and go for Z1 and now they are returnig them too.
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Like it or not?
The thing with Z1 Is that all journalists all over the world are calling it the best phone on the market with fabulous screen and picture quality compared to all other top models.
People order them because of the test results.
So when people got them in their hands they get frustrated over the bad screens and picture quality.
We are now 4 friends that are returning them and are trying to find out what units they where testing in the media. It's obvious that it's not the same units that people on the street gets.
They have tested them side by side with units that I already have and I respect their judgement when they say Z1 has better screen and picture quality but it has to be something with the units on the market.
Even a 3 year old can see that it's not the case.
After 2 firmware updates it's still not competitive to other top units. Nobody and I mean nobody will rate Z1 over other top units if they test/compare them side by side in shops. So why did they get the good reviews??
Yes. I'm not happy.
That is because I convinced 2 people to wait and go for Z1 and now they are returnig them too.
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Just let me get this straight because I'm not sure I'm following completely. Basically, you and 3 of your friends are returning mobile devices meant for use by one person at a time, because of how their screens look when you view it from an angle which you'll never actually do yourself. Did I get that right?
Have you considered the fact that from head-on the screen is actually ridiculously good? Is there some other reason here or are you just jumping on the "herp derp I can't use my phone while holding it at a 45º angle because the colours get so washed out!" bandwagon? It is literally the most ridiculous excuse I've ever heard for returning a phone which is otherwise (ok, may be exaggerating a little here) pretty much perfect in every other aspect.
You gonna go buy a Samsung with ridiculous AMOLED colours? Or an LG with silly back-buttons and hideous UI? Or maybe an HTC One with only 2 capacitive buttons and no SD-card. Ok, I am being unfair, in reality all of these phones are really good options, but I'm seriously wondering what the actual reason is for why you 4 are returning this phone.
EDIT: The reasons I personally picked the Z1 were roughly these:
Great, robust and premium feel, unmatched (in my opinion) on the mobile market today.
Simple UI with a good feel to it.
Sonys openness to developers, something only really bested by the HTC One.
The screen is great for everything except the viewing angles which I don't see as a problem during use.
On top of all of this, they have managed to make it waterproof!
I'm so happy to hear that you like your unit.
As you can see I have returned to my Note 3.
I guess the reason for returning it lies in the fact that I'm over 40 year's and my eyes need better readability and my old thumb don't like the moment to hit the side button.
I can live with the bad camera in low light, but as I use it a lot for reading documents and technical drawings it's useless.
We have compared it with so many other phones now and actually we can't find one that has so poor readability of the same website.
Why they release such quality is strange to me.
But again, it's nice to hear that you are happy and love your unit.
I actually like the side button better when I hold it up side down. All 4 units have had reboot issues, but not on latest software.
But again, why stick with a new unit when the last one was better.
I don't care what brand I use, but people that defend a poor product is normally married to the brand.
Why is the phone nearly as big as Note 3, but the screen feels/displays like a iPhone 4s?
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Let's not comment on each other.
I'm not satisfied but you are.
It's no point in trying to convince anybody to have the same opinion.
Let's just say that I like phones with buttons on the front, good screen and camera.
The screen must be crispy so that the contrast between gray on white are crystal clear.
And that the screen shall be as big as the unit.
Because of that Z1 was not for me.
Other people have other criteria so therefore there are many options out there.
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