I love playing around with my Note N700 and trying every rom, but I have become a little worried of late with bricking it. So am I right to think (after reading things said all over these forums) that no rom based on either ICS 4 is safe from bricking?
Also is it true that even if you do it right and have the one rom on it and it runs well your phone can still brick at any time?
belveder69 said:
I love playing around with my Note N700 and trying every rom, but I have become a little worried of late with bricking it. So am I right to think (after reading things said all over these forums) that no rom based on either ICS 4 is safe from bricking?
Also is it true that even if you do it right and have the one rom on it and it runs well your phone can still brick at any time?
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The only safe ICS Roms at the moment are:
1. official CM9
2. Asylum
3. Paranoid
4. MIUI
All other ICS Roms contain LP1, LP5, LP6, LPY or LPF kernels, which are known to be able
to brick phones after doing a wipe/format/flash from CWMR.
So, does that mean if you:
Are like me, never flashed anything other than kies rom updates,
Never used CWM, never wiped, never modded the rom.
Updated to ICS using Kies, then used the cwm method to root
the rom....and I've never wiped after the update, or anything else...
Phone runs fine, NO issues, then I'm "safe"?
I appreciate the cooks for doing what they do, but I pretty much stick
with release roms from the manufacturer. My days of spending all evening
tweaking the computer to get .5% better performance along with modding
build.prop files etc are over. My computer & phones are just "toaster ovens".
I turn them on and use them LOL. At the end of the work day, I"m just too
tired to screw with it.
p51d007 said:
So, does that mean if you:
Are like me, never flashed anything other than kies rom updates,
Never used CWM, never wiped, never modded the rom.
Updated to ICS using Kies, then used the cwm method to root
the rom....and I've never wiped after the update, or anything else...
Phone runs fine, NO issues, then I'm "safe"?
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You should be safe, yes.
hi all
got the official update to ICS yesterday and now my phone is awful!
unlocking is slow, swiping is slow, typing is slow, most apps crash! whats happened?!
ive read that a factory reset will fix issues but will this loose everything i have on the phone? i dont want to have to start again on games etc just had it the way i liked.
any help or info on factory reset?
ps phone is not rooted and as is out the box
I installed the update afew days ago but i have not noticed that at all on the samsung stock launcher. Now cus i use hi launcher its abit laggy but apps n internet is superfast for me.
I wont hold my breath thoe on the decent speed. My reboots might stil happen but not as yet.
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How did you update? Did you re cover apps throught a certain tool?
Bad thing about updates are the mess old stuff leaves, or create when recovering. Stock as well as custom. That's why clean install is best.
So sad its needed
Be carefull with factory reset because of ics bug, but that together with. Wiping cache or dalvik cache have been reported to work. Again be carefull cause of ICS bug, a wipe or factory reset can destroy your phone. Enought threads on that.
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i updated from the indian rom yesterday to the official lq2 and find it much smoother and snappier i dont have permanent cwm i do have root if its that bad either reflash the rom to see if it was a bad flash or do a factory reset
thanks for the replies!
whats dalvik cache??
i think ill have to reinstall :-(
I updated to the German rom last month and had to do a factory reset afterwards to clear up a few issues.
There have been reports of phones bricking while factory resetting (though very very few reports tbh) but so long as you updated officially (ie your phone told you an update was ready, or you did it over kies air) then you should be safe enough, even if your phone does die you'll be fully covered by your warranty as factory resets are a perfectly normal function of the phone.
Ftb
well i had to do a factory reset went for the gamble and so far its working ok.
had problems with kies trying to backup up ive never got that to work correctly. only thing ive really lots is my save for wheres my water lol
thanks for all the help xx
Flashed UK ICS stock with mobile Odin + speedmod kernel .one reboot then one hit code *2767*3855# Full Factory format Reset and its quite smooth and nice result.
scrott901 said:
well i had to do a factory reset went for the gamble and so far its working ok.
had problems with kies trying to backup up ive never got that to work correctly. only thing ive really lots is my save for wheres my water lol
thanks for all the help xx
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Try flashing the speedmod kernel using Odin pro. It will definitely improve your experience.
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I have had my Bionic for a while now and have been thinking about rooting it. I finally got the ICS update but have been using GO Launcher too much to even notice it. Anyway, like I said, I want to root my phone. I am current on all updates. For some reason it's running at a tenth of it's memory tho not much is running that I can see. This leads me to believe there's things running in the background that I can not see. I am reluctant to get rid of all my apps, but I also don't want anything that's eating all my resources either. I kinda want to start new but kinda don't. I guess I just don't like letting go of anything.
I know this is selfish of me, but I am hoping that this thread will stay clean of others chiming in asking about their issues. I just don't want the thread to lose focus since this is about what I hope to get from my phone.
Ok, so here are my questions or favors to ask:
Since my phone is fully updated, do I need to do some other updated steps for rooting my phone or is rooting always the same no matter the build or version?
When I go to root my phone, I back up everything first and then I get it back, right?
I read somewhere that it's possible to brick the phone. What precautions should I take to avoid that?
Can I get all the benefits of a rooted phone without a ROM?
Are ROMs really that awesome that I should get one, or three?
I am interested in a ROM after some posts and pages I read. I was attracted to CM at first but so is everyone else probably at first. Does CM even work on the Bionic? And if it does, does everything work like the camera and Bluetooth?
As I said earlier, I use GO Launcher. One of the things I really like about it is the folders I can make in the App Drawer. Now CM is based off of ADW Launcher, but no options to make folders in the app drawer? Is it possible in any way if I choose CM as my main ROM?
Is CM overrated? Liberty and Eclipse look nice too. I also read a little, very little, about AOKP. Any suggestions? I want to get rid of a lot of extra processes and bloatware but I don't want to lose some of the apps pre-installed like Google Maps and Navigation, etc. Unless there are other, much better replacements that anyone knows of.
I know most of this is personal preference but I am hoping to find a comprehensive way at figuring out what's best for me.
I had more questions but I will wait and ask more as the thread continues.
Oh, I don't really need answers in step by step unless I ask. A simple link would suffice unless it's not covered anywhere.
Thanks for reading this, I hope I am not frustrating anyone as I am sure similar posts have been made.
You're basically asking to have this entire forum summarized into one post...
Spend some time reading, then ask smaller, more concise questions.
Not trying to sound like a ****, but i could spend an hour answering all of that. Half of those questions could be answered with some reading of the ROM specific threads.
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Ok, I know that SOME of the questions are answered somewhere else. The thing is that after I read one thread only to find it unsolved, I read others that are are 50 pages long going nowhere as well. I haven't seen anything about my phone being fully updated and I am not going any further until I know for sure from someone like a DEV that I can.
Some of these questions are yes/no questions, which wouldn't take long at all to answer, maybe even less time it takes to write a complaint about my post. I certainly don't expect one person to write for an hour on every topic I asked about. I thought it would be a collective effort.
I guess I will take this slowly.
Since my Droid Bionic is updated to the current versions, do I need to do this differently than others have used in the past to root this phone?
Where is the best method to do this?
Before I start, I have to backup everything, right? If so, what's the best way to go about backing up everything?
I read somewhere that there are 3 things you should do to make sure you avoid bricking. I have since lost it. Does anybody know a surefire way to do this.
Please be gentle.
CycoPuppet said:
Ok, I know that SOME of the questions are answered somewhere else. The thing is that after I read one thread only to find it unsolved, I read others that are are 50 pages long going nowhere as well. I haven't seen anything about my phone being fully updated and I am not going any further until I know for sure from someone like a DEV that I can.
Some of these questions are yes/no questions, which wouldn't take long at all to answer, maybe even less time it takes to write a complaint about my post. I certainly don't expect one person to write for an hour on every topic I asked about. I thought it would be a collective effort.
I guess I will take this slowly.
Since my Droid Bionic is updated to the current versions, do I need to do this differently than others have used in the past to root this phone?
Where is the best method to do this?
Before I start, I have to backup everything, right? If so, what's the best way to go about backing up everything?
I read somewhere that there are 3 things you should do to make sure you avoid bricking. I have since lost it. Does anybody know a surefire way to do this.
Please be gentle.
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1st question . No, your phone is not special since it is updated what worked for others will work for you.
2nd follow this link and the instructions to the letter http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/4026-samurihls-house-of-bionic/
3rd . Since you are stock. I would suggest using Verizon's back up services. TiBu requires root. IMHO I wouldn't bother because Google automatically backs up contacts and most roms require you to do a full data wipe.
There is no magic formula to keep from bricking your phone. Just follow directions and if you can't tolerate the risk don't do it.
From my EVOLVED bionic
Obsidian_soul said:
1st question . No, your phone is not special since it is updated what worked for others will work for you.
2nd follow this link and the instructions to the letter Can not post links
3rd . Since you are stock. I would suggest using Verizon's back up services. TiBu requires root. IMHO I wouldn't bother because Google automatically backs up contacts and most roms require you to do a full data wipe.
There is no magic formula to keep from bricking your phone. Just follow directions and if you can't tolerate the risk don't do it.
From my EVOLVED bionic
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That link no longer works
Also I found an article named "Learn How-To Root, Custom Recovery, Backup, And De-Bloat Your DROID BIONIC" while searching around for ROM ideas and such. Anyway, after reading this, it almost seems as if I don't need to do factory reset. Is this ok?
CycoPuppet said:
That link no longer works
Also I found an article named "Learn How-To Root, Custom Recovery, Backup, And De-Bloat Your DROID BIONIC" while searching around for ROM ideas and such. Anyway, after reading this, it almost seems as if I don't need to do factory reset. Is this ok?
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Just last week I started with a stock ICS Bionic and followed this guide to root: http://droidbionicroot.com/droid-bionic-root/how-to-root-ics-on-droid-bionic-and-motorola-android/
That went very well. I wanted to try out JB 4.2.2, so I installed SafeStrap and an official CM 10.1 nightly. The net result was that I had a very unstable phone until I did a factory reset . As of this writing, however, it's behaving extremely well. YMMV.
Ratamacue said:
Just last week I started with a stock ICS Bionic and followed this guide to root: Can not post links
That went very well. I wanted to try out JB 4.2.2, so I installed SafeStrap and an official CM 10.1 nightly. The net result was that I had a very unstable phone until I did a factory reset . As of this writing, however, it's behaving extremely well. YMMV.
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Ok, so you flashed the ROM, didn't work so well, then you did a factory reset. Doesn't a factory reset wipe the phone? If that's the case, doesn't it wipe out the ROM?
Oh one more thing. Following this link, does this wipe the data from my phone? Anything I should back up before doing this? Should I do any updates before flashing CM 10?
CycoPuppet said:
Ok, so you flashed the ROM, didn't work so well, then you did a factory reset. Doesn't a factory reset wipe the phone? If that's the case, doesn't it wipe out the ROM?
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No, a factory data reset doesn't wipe the ROM, but it does require running the initial setup (as if you were setting up a brand new phone).
CycoPuppet said:
...one more thing. Following this link, does this wipe the data from my phone? Anything I should back up before doing this? Should I do any updates before flashing CM 10?
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You definitely want to back up everything you're not willing to lose. I ran a backup the very first thing after installing SafeStrap, and it was a good thing because with all my messing around I managed to bork my stock ROM to the point that it wouldn't boot. Fortunately, all I had to do was restore it from a backup.
My phone on CM 10.1 had enough issues with freezing and crashing that I decided this morning to try a different ROM. So far, I've had really good results with Icarus HD (a custom ICS ROM). I really don't know if my experience with CM 10.1 was typical.
OK, so I want to root. Now does rooting wipe any data? Regarding Safestrap, I install that first before rooting?
Rooting doesn't wipe any data. Root first, then install SafeStrap.
Okay, I will be rooting and installing safestrap when I get home for work today. I will still have more questions I am sure. I do have a few before I actually start rooting or right after.
I know safestrap makes a backup/recovory, but is it full recovery only or can I recover portions, like say my Dolphin browser with the settings and bookmarks?
I read that when making a backup of stock ROM, use sdcard, I'm sure that means external but when flashing a ROM, will that wipe data from the external card?
When setting up slots for multi booting ROMs, gernally how much storage do they need?
If I have two different ROMs, does it act like user accounts in Windows, would I have to download the same app on each ROM or do both ROMs have access?
Can one ROM have stuff I don't want the other ROM to have visible?
CycoPuppet said:
I know safestrap makes a backup/recovory, but is it full recovery only or can I recover portions, like say my Dolphin browser with the settings and bookmarks?
I read that when making a backup of stock ROM, use sdcard, I'm sure that means external but when flashing a ROM, will that wipe data from the external card?
When setting up slots for multi booting ROMs, gernally how much storage do they need?
If I have two different ROMs, does it act like user accounts in Windows, would I have to download the same app on each ROM or do both ROMs have access?
Can one ROM have stuff I don't want the other ROM to have visible?
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1. SafeStrap is full recovery only. Use Titanium Backup for backing up apps and data.
2. Flashing a ROM won't do anything to your external SD card.
3. When you set up ROM slots, you'll be asked how much room you'd like to allocate for data. The choices are 1, 2, or 3 GB. I started off allocating 3 GB to the stock ROM slot and was never able to load more than 3 separate ROMs before I ran out of room. I'd start with just using 1 GB for data.
4. Each ROM is an island. You have to download the apps separately (unless when you go through the initial setup you tell the system to restore apps and settings from the Google servers.)
Cool. I rooted and got safestrap but it's version 3.05 and not 3.11. Some ROM I was interested in said must have 3.11, which I am assuming that's the newest one so far. I did watch a tutorial about getting the current version, so no question there.
So the ROMs are separate islands and during flashing they can be in slots allocated up to 3GB. Does that mean that's the only amount of storage I can have when running that ROM? Say I like taking lots of photos and didn't save them to my external card, could I essentially run out of space or is the storage allocation just for the ROM itself and any updates it may have?
Sorry about these series of questions, just want to make sure I am doing it correctly in case I might make a mistake for future's sake.
The storage allocation is for the ROM, apps, and data that haven't been assigned to the external SD card. You can definitely run out of space if you load several ROMs and don't save any of your data to the external SD card.
Also, keep in mind that when VZW sends the OTA update to 4.1 next week, the only way to keep root is to root in ICS and use Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper to protect root before you take the OTA. If you flash the system image, you will lose root, and there is no known working root exploit for the Bionic JB release.
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Hey, I used Voodoo before flashing the 4.1 update, but forgot to update the binary beforehand, and therefore lost root. Anyone have any luck yet with an exploit for the OTA?
And there's no working FXZ before this now, correct? This software is now the earliest version I can FXZ to?
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Hey, I used Voodoo before flashing the 4.1 update, but forgot to update the binary beforehand, and therefore lost root. Anyone have any luck yet with an exploit for the OTA?
And there's no working FXZ before this now, correct? This software is now the earliest version I can FXZ to?
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Not root exploit yet for bionic JB. And if you try to FXZ back to an earlier version, you will brick your phone.
OK, so I rooted, got safestrap tho still not updated to 3.11, got TBU (free), got Voodoo. I had to race the clock today cuz it was updating android, or at least downloading the update. The root process I used gave me SuperSU and didn't tell me the version for the SU binaries. I searched around and all I could find was info on SuperUser in regards to backing up root. I uninstalled SuperSU, kinda. I just told it to use a different SU cuz when I used SuperUser and updated the binaries, SuperSU wanted to update them, then I opened SuperUser and the binaries reverted back. I was worried so I just told SuperSU to use a different SU. Was that ok? I didn't update to JB yet. Has there been luck with the Bionic using voodoo and keeping root after the JB update?
All this back and forth means I'm making a full image backup, then trying various ROMs. I've tried CM10.1, too many issues (no car dock, trouble installing lots of apps, no speakerphone). Next is... Whizzed Bean?
EDIT: Seems Speakerphone issue was fixed in the 0420 nightly. Will have to try it again.
AND I copied all the backups to my PC, so I can restore them at will (provided the phone still boots, that is... )
If I can't find a JB ROM I like I guess I can do HouseofBionic reflash (which did NOT cause me to lose data, as I upgraded to ICS that way) then allow the JB OTA to go through.
*sigh*... So much bull**** in these updates.
Hope someone sees my question above. I still haven't updated to JB yet. Once I do I will be flashing ROMs. I am interested in CM, Liquid Smooth, Icarus Hd and Wizzed Bean or Synergy (executioner ) Both WB and Synergy look indentical. What is the differences.
CycoPuppet said:
Hope someone sees my question above. I still haven't updated to JB yet. Once I do I will be flashing ROMs. I am interested in CM, Liquid Smooth, Icarus Hd and Wizzed Bean or Synergy (executioner ) Both WB and Synergy look indentical. What is the differences.
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WB is a fork of CNA (codename Android) 4.1 JB (which is itself based on AOSP)
while Synergy is a fork of the standard Moto ICS (.246).
Yes, they look identical because they both used the Samsung UI elements.
Like the title says, I decided to try a full mf9 flash, root, recovery then hotspot flash. Before the extras, I did a full factory reset. I did move everything over to the SD card before and run titanium and backup within apps and nandroid before wiping everything. Like someone said earlier, they thought it was better to do a full flash than do an earlier one and update to it. Granted it's almost 5am and network traffic is probably at a minimum but I'm getting excellent performance so far. The true test will be in the afternoon when the network is busy.
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Like the title says, I decided to try a full mf9 flash, root, recovery then hotspot flash. Before the extras, I did a full factory reset. I did move everything over to the SD card before and run titanium and backup within apps and nandroid before wiping everything. Like someone said earlier, they thought it was better to do a full flash than do an earlier one and update to it. Granted it's almost 5am and network traffic is probably at a minimum but I'm getting excellent performance so far. The true test will be in the afternoon when the network is busy.
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I have noticed marked improvements as well too. I did a full wipe and a clean install. Seems like the 4G is able to connect a lot better. Not having as many dropped calls either with the mf9 update. Took a couple try's to get root to stick, but that has something to do with Sprint attempting to keep the phone locked...
So far, the phone feels a little more responsive, with less lag. I don't know if it is a placebo effect, but things seem better, so far, when doing a full install than going the upgrade route. I just about have everything, settings wise, set to the way I like it and have all the programs installed I had previously on the upgrade install. I just restored titanium backups of the majority of the apps+data so putting everything back was much easier than downloading everything over again from play.
If you're bored, like stock mf9, but went the upgrade zip way, backup everything and try the full PC Odin flash. Maybe you'll like it.
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So far, the phone feels a little more responsive, with less lag. I don't know if it is a placebo effect, but things seem better, so far, when doing a full install than going the upgrade route. I just about have everything, settings wise, set to the way I like it and have all the programs installed I had previously on the upgrade install. I just restored titanium backups of the majority of the apps+data so putting everything back was much easier than downloading everything over again from play.
If you're bored, like stock mf9, but went the upgrade zip way, backup everything and try the full PC Odin flash. Maybe you'll like it.
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It's not placebo, it's real. . My MF9 experience after starting fresh has been markedly better.
I'm guilty of doing this every time I flash a new rom. I don't know, but I fear the dirty flashes lol. Bricking isn't even a problem. I guess I like to do it right the first time & have a lesser chance of running into any issues or user errors. With mf9, it's just another routine maintenance for my S4
Had trouble flashing with CWM, had to use Odin.
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