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Manual for the Diamond

Is there a manual for it? I just bought it and for example I am not sure how to get the back off to insert the battery!
Jon

Yes, on the HTC site.

Jon12345 said:
Is there a manual for it? I just bought it and for example I am not sure how to get the back off to insert the battery!
Jon
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first place to look for info on diamond:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond
next time, please search. there are at least two more threads on the subject.
here, found them in 1 minute. see? possible!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413940&highlight=htc+manual
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410653&highlight=htc+manual
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410778&highlight=htc+manual
and a direct link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/131900697/Touch_Diamond_English_Manual.pdf.html

Thanks guys.

Quick one. The guy in the Orange shop said charge the Diamond for 8 hours with it switched off on first use. Is that the best amount of time to charge?
Also, I see the battery already has some charge on it, if that makes any difference.

Jon12345 said:
Quick one. The guy in the Orange shop said charge the Diamond for 8 hours with it switched off on first use. Is that the best amount of time to charge?
Also, I see the battery already has some charge on it, if that makes any difference.
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Just charge it until it reaches 100% and you will be ok. Besides, after the battery is charged it doesn't do anything more so no need to have it charging for 8 hours. No need either to have the phone turned off. And try not to let the battery drain completely before charging. Don't let it drop below 10-15%.

Currently it shows 3 bars on the battery. It came with that out of the box. Does that mean I should wait for that to drain before recharging?

No. All devices come with the battery partially charged. Just plug it in (it is better to use your pc for charging rather than the AC charger) and let it charge until it reaches 100%.

[Q] Is this battery trashed?

Hey guys. I was wondering if this is reasonable battery life for the Mini?
NB:
- when WiFi wasn't enabled, i had 3G on all the time, except the straight section - that was overnight
- my screen brightness stays at about 65% all the time, except for the no-wifi screen time before the straight section - that was minimum brightness
- powersave is activated
- some of the screen time was games - notably I played GTA VC for 30 minutes without powersave
I need to know if it is decent because I am able to return the phone until the end of the month if the battery is damaged. Thanks.

Yes that seems ok.
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As I posted in another thread, Samsung's battery life pwns HTC's battery life.

blackknightavalon said:
As I posted in another thread, Samsung's battery life pwns HTC's battery life.
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Care for an example?
Sn0w0ns, thanks for your input!

metalboy94 said:
Care for an example?
Sn0w0ns, thanks for your input!
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HTC Doubleshot (MyTouch 4G Slide) stock battery, full charge: Dead after just four hours.
Samsung I8190 (Galaxy S3 Mini) stock battery full charge: 21% after 12 hours.
How's that for an example?

blackknightavalon said:
HTC Doubleshot (MyTouch 4G Slide) stock battery, full charge: Dead after just four hours.
Samsung I8190 (Galaxy S3 Mini) stock battery full charge: 27% after ten hours.
How's that for an example?
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Well heh, the HTC seems to be a 4G model. Was data on by any chance?

metalboy94 said:
Well heh, the HTC seems to be a 4G model. Was data on by any chance?
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Yup, but even 4G Samsung phones are reported to last longer than just 4 hours on one charge.

blackknightavalon said:
Yup, but even 4G Samsung phones are reported to last longer than just 4 hours on one charge.
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I see, thanks.
Speaking of batteries, is my Mini the only one with an odd discharge habit? It seems to go down a few percents between sleep and wake, then stay on a certain level for longer. Repeatedly.

metalboy94 said:
I see, thanks.
Speaking of batteries, is my Mini the only one with an odd discharge habit? It seems to go down a few percents between sleep and wake, then stay on a certain level for longer. Repeatedly.
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Try training the battery (let it go down to 2%, fully charge it, repeat one or two more times) and see if that clears it up.

blackknightavalon said:
Try training the battery (let it go down to 2%, fully charge it, repeat one or two more times) and see if that clears it up.
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I did that more than once, until it wouldn't even power on. Then plugged it in to charge until i got the Battery Full notification. Still happens, not as much but it does. I'm starting to get used to it though, especially since a friend of mine with an OG S3 says he gets the same thing too.

Here try this works for some people. Give it a try. : http://www.apkmania.co/2012/11/battery-repair-doctor-boost-v19-apk.html?m=1
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metalboy94 said:
I did that more than once, until it wouldn't even power on. Then plugged it in to charge until i got the Battery Full notification. Still happens, not as much but it does. I'm starting to get used to it though, especially since a friend of mine with an OG S3 says he gets the same thing too.
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See what another battery does. It might be that you have a bad one.

blackknightavalon said:
See what another battery does. It might be that you have a bad one.
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Exactly what I'm worried about, I'd rather exchange the phone while I still can. For example, today I've had the phone sit on 25% for a long time, then suddenly decrease to 22% and sit there for a long time as well. This ticks me off a little, but I don't know whether it's an actual problem or not.

[Q] Best Way To Calibrate Battery

Hi people
Yeah yeah ... stop blaming me for asking such a noop Q
let's see
After Full charge and stamina mode on i only have 9 hours of stand buy estimation ...
i think i have calibratetd the phone badly..
So how can I fix this..?
It's Nearly 2 weeks that i've bought this phone...
TNX in advance
My phone is UnROOTED

faraz_fireboy said:
Hi people
Yeah yeah ... stop blaming me for asking such a noop Q
let's see
After Full charge and stamina mode on i only have 9 hours of stand buy estimation ...
i think i have calibratetd the phone badly..
So how can I fix this..?
It's Nearly 2 weeks that i've bought this phone...
TNX in advance
My phone is UnROOTED
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There is no BEST way to calibrate your battery. We all have our own theories.
The stamina mode thing is a semi bug, you shouldn't worry about it.
With semi bug I mean: The phone learns from your daily tasks and then adjusts the stamina mode time to it.
Mine also says 9 hours, with stamina mode 21 hours or so. But I'm not worried because I can get a lot more then that.
When you clear the cache (Dont remember from what service/app) the stamina mode time resets to "normal".

faraz_fireboy said:
Hi people
Yeah yeah ... stop blaming me for asking such a noop Q
let's see
After Full charge and stamina mode on i only have 9 hours of stand buy estimation ...
i think i have calibratetd the phone badly..
So how can I fix this..?
It's Nearly 2 weeks that i've bought this phone...
TNX in advance
My phone is UnROOTED
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Best way to calibrate your battery, is keep charging your phone when it needs to be charged, and make sure that you followed the charge instructions when you opened the box. Then after about 3 weeks the battery will be as good as it is going to get.

There's an extensive discussion regarding the necessity of calibration in the thread linked in my signature. If you read the first few pages you will realise it is not needed.
Sent from my C6603

Calibration is not require...if your phone die too quick get one of those portable battery charger, it look like a damn tampon, but it will do the job, 2000mah.

Actually
I recieved the phone as a gift and I think it was turned on and tested and they didn't charged it before first use...
Is this first charge thing that effective?
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faraz_fireboy said:
Actually
I recieved the phone as a gift and I think it was turned on and tested and they didn't charged it before first use...
Is this first charge thing that effective?
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No not really. It's a li-ion battery and they just don't need that type of treatment. Alot of people will harp and whine that it does but that's pretty much just people stuck in old ways (sony themselves have a note with it saying charge for 30 minutes before use) . The only thing that's "bad" for the battery is continually jump charging it eg plugging it in to charge at say 40%, only letting it reach 60%, unplug it, use it for a few hours and do the same thing. That and maintaining a full charge for a long period of time or maintaining a very low charge for a long period of time.
However I would charge my S2 every once during the day, then again at night and leave it on charge till the morning. Leaving plugged in for excess of 5 hours every night at full charge hasn't caused any noticeable harm. They have sensors to slow current flow to a trickle when they are at full charge to prevent over charging so I guess that does the trick to prevent it from reaching true 100% charge.
Rule of thumb; when the phone tells you to plug into charger, that;s right about the best time to do so. Later wont matter so much, but earlier and you are basically wasting a charge cycle and shortening it's life.
My S2 is still on it's original battery though and it is still going strong after approx 2 years.
The best way to calibrate would be to stop fiddling and let the phone do it's thing. Reboots and recovery mess with it alot as alot of battery percentage gets lost during both of those and throws it way out. A couple complete charge and discharge cycles without powering down should be all it needs

Fully charging takes more then 2 days??

Hello,
Since yesterday my phone needs more then 2 days to completely charge? Can this be ROM related or is my device damaged?
I'm running CM10.1 with stock kernel btw.
Thanks!

No it is not normal.
But which phone do you have. In here we discuss the normal s (I9000) and the s plus (I9001)

mrjraider said:
No it is not normal.
But which phone do you have. In here we discuss the normal s (I9000) and the s plus (I9001)
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Sorry, i have the I9001
Can this be kernel related or maybe also adapter related?

I believe it is battery related could you show the battery stats?

Ya i two have this kind of problem.. Can u guys tell me good chip battery for my i9000 ?
Sent from my GT-I9000

The battery is new, only used for 2 weeks now and it's an oem Samsung battery

onnaj said:
The battery is new, only used for 2 weeks now and it's an oem Samsung battery
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Check your charger first. A corrupted/duplicate charger would take long enough time to charge the battery to 100%
If it's ok, Try to charge your battery in a similar device. If it charge properly, then the problem might be in hardware.
If it not charging properly in other device, it's time to change your battery..:fingers-crossed:

jabrif said:
Check your charger first. A corrupted/duplicate charger would take long enough time to charge the battery to 100%
If it's ok, Try to charge your battery in a similar device. If it charge properly, then the problem might be in hardware.
If it not charging properly in other device, it's time to change your battery..:fingers-crossed:
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I tried charging the old battery and that goes really fast. At least for me it's normal. It went from about 55% to 88% in 1,5-2 hours so happily it's not device related. Seems that the new battery isn't working properly. Or should i setup something to make my device recognize the new battery?

onnaj said:
I tried charging the old battery and that goes really fast. At least for me it's normal. It went from about 55% to 88% in 1,5-2 hours so happily it's not device related. Seems that the new battery isn't working properly. Or should i setup something to make my device recognize the new battery?
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nope, thats battery problem, android already has good battery management with.
try charging with display on n see 1% exchange in how many minute, if its takes more than 5 minutes, then its battery faulty.
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onnaj said:
I tried charging the old battery and that goes really fast. At least for me it's normal. It went from about 55% to 88% in 1,5-2 hours so happily it's not device related. Seems that the new battery isn't working properly. Or should i setup something to make my device recognize the new battery?
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There's nothing to setup for a new battery. Only just in first use you have to charge it continuously for about 2-3 hours to calibrate it with the device.
Try one thing, fully discharge the battery to 0% and charge it up to 100% continuously.(whatever time it takes) :fingers-crossed:
If it not helps, change the battery.
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compacity said:
nope, thats battery problem, android already has good battery management with.
try charging with display on n see 1% exchange in how many minute, if its takes more than 5 minutes, then its battery faulty.
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There's a doubt. If it's because of a faulty battery, the drain will also be worst na.? But he didn't mentioned it.

usb connection always charge the phone!!

can someone have solution to stop charge the phone while connect the phone to computer via usb cable

ngvhoang96 said:
can someone have solution to stop charge the phone while connect the phone to computer via usb cable
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There's a setting under storage to disable it.

Genuinely asking you.. Why do you want to stop it charging??

TeeJay!! said:
Genuinely asking you.. Why do you want to stop it charging??
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i think it will decrease the battery life

soupmagnet said:
There's a setting under storage to disable it.
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i have tried a lots, but no effect

ngvhoang96 said:
i have tried a lots, but no effect
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It wont decrease battery life.
The only way the battery could be hindered via charging is if you do it for extended periods of time.
For example more than 10 hours isnt good.

me4488 said:
It wont decrease battery life.
The only way the battery could be hindered via charging is if you do it for extended periods of time.
For example more than 10 hours isnt good.
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Thanks for clearing that. So we can charge our phone whenever we want to but be careful not to charge for too long at a stretch. Is it correct?

Yes
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aashay960 said:
Thanks for clearing that. So we can charge our phone whenever we want to but be careful not to charge for too long at a stretch. Is it correct?
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Yeah. I've read up on this stuff. More than 10 hours is called Overcharging. It's unhealthy for the battery and for the phone itself
The normal charge is just plugging it at any time and plug it out at any time.
And then there is healthy charge. You need to do this once a month or two.
Let the battery fall below 20-15 percent and then charge it up all the way to 100.
Also keeping it plugged in at 100% isn't recommended because we don't have smart charge (which basicly cuts of the power from the charger to the motherboard at 100% to prevent wear and tear like in some new high end devices)
Hope you find this interesting :3

Thank you. I will do some research on this myself too..

Maybe add it to the get started guide? ;3

so charge for a short time doesn't decrease the battery?
ex: charge from 30% to 50% is not wrong?

ngvhoang96 said:
so charge for a short time doesn't decrease the battery?
ex: charge from 30% to 50% is not wrong?
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No it is not. Only older batteries had this problem. Nowdays its cool to do that.

me4488 said:
It wont decrease battery life.
The only way the battery could be hindered via charging is if you do it for extended periods of time.
For example more than 10 hours isnt good.
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Damn, i leave my phone charging all night
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noahvt said:
Damn, i leave my phone charging all night
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If you sleep less than 10 hours than its good. I do that when I go to school.
More than 10 is not healthy.

this becomes a problem esp if u use usb tethering

Modern firmware stops charging the phone when it's full, drains it a bit, and then will not send any juice to the battery anymore- it's pretty much impossible to overcharge unless you've corrupted or hacked out that bit of the firmware or you're overamping to begin with- or the phone and its firmware are poorly designed or executed.
This is also why your phone drops from 100 to 95% so fast when you start using it- it wasn't at 100% when it stopped charging; the firmware lies to you so you don't get mad and try to overcharge and destroy your battery or call customer service because it won't go above ~98%

Well then, I've had this phone for over a year and always charge it over the night (way over 10hours :I)
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