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[Q] Battery drainage

this battery drainage seems to be a big problem with HTC one, is it really as bad as people/users are saying?
if the drain is that bad on the standby should i withhold getting HTC one? im out of the house for more than 14 hrs per day and a juiced up phone is what i need!
GS4 or ONE?
please advise

Kartikp84 said:
this battery drainage seems to be a big problem with HTC one, is it really as bad as people/users are saying?
if the drain is that bad on the standby should i withhold getting HTC one? im out of the house for more than 14 hrs per day and a juiced up phone is what i need!
GS4 or ONE?
please advise
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Actually the battery isn't a problem at all with the One! It is way above average for todays smartphones (not counting in the Note II)
You will generally get 6h of screen time with "xda-user" (most likely higher usage then the average consumer) which is amazing.
I leave the house at 7am and come home at around 10pm, that is 15 hours and the One has been holding up great!
I can't see the GS4 being any better. AMOLED + bigger screen = more power consumption (you need higher brightness etc.).. and in my eyes the One is the better phone over all too... so my advice is to get a One and you will be really really happy!
You may still want to invest 40$ in a portable external battery so you can charge your phone on the go .. just in case

voltron2k11 said:
Actually the battery isn't a problem at all with the One! It is way above average for todays smartphones (not counting in the Note II)
You will generally get 6h of screen time with "xda-user" (most likely higher usage then the average consumer) which is amazing.
I leave the house at 7am and come home at around 10pm, that is 15 hours and the One has been holding up great!
I can't see the GS4 being any better. AMOLED + bigger screen = more power consumption (you need higher brightness etc.).. and in my eyes the One is the better phone over all too... so my advice is to get a One and you will be really really happy!
You may still want to invest 40$ in a portable external battery so you can charge your phone on the go .. just in case
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Wait for GS4 Exynos OCTA performance tests to decide.
Maybe the OCTA will be more power-friendly.
Nevertheless, AMOLED 5'' screen of the GS4 seems to be better than the HTC One's . Even the brightness is not an issue anymore cause the new AMOLED is seen better on sunlight than the SLCD3! It suprised me cause the S3 was bad on sunlight. Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_vs_htc_one-review-913p3.php

voltron2k11 said:
Actually the battery isn't a problem at all with the One! It is way above average for todays smartphones (not counting in the Note II)
You will generally get 6h of screen time with "xda-user" (most likely higher usage then the average consumer) which is amazing.
I leave the house at 7am and come home at around 10pm, that is 15 hours and the One has been holding up great!
I can't see the GS4 being any better. AMOLED + bigger screen = more power consumption (you need higher brightness etc.).. and in my eyes the One is the better phone over all too... so my advice is to get a One and you will be really really happy!
You may still want to invest 40$ in a portable external battery so you can charge your phone on the go .. just in case
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Thank you, but was the incremental loss of battery while it's on standby?? I even gsmarena says that the standby time is pretty horrible..

Kartikp84 said:
Thank you, but was the incremental loss of battery while it's on standby?? I even gsmarena says that the standby time is pretty horrible..
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Just looked at my phone after leaving it on overnight for 8hrs to see a 4% drain, now I'm no expert but that seems pretty darn good to me.
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SmokyM79 said:
Just looked at my phone after leaving it on overnight for 8hrs to see a 4% drain, now I'm no expert but that seems pretty darn good to me.
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Is that with wifi/data on, receiving all the notifications??
Screenshot for the battery drain please?
Thnx given

I still have my 2011 HTC Phone here with 1500mAh battery and I get like 0 to 1% battery drain overnight.
Although I know someone there who get results like this with HTC One so the device is not an issue. Just trying to say that SmokyM79 might have wakelock issues there.
SmokyM79 said:
Just looked at my phone after leaving it on overnight for 8hrs to see a 4% drain, now I'm no expert but that seems pretty darn good to me.
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Didn't manually turn any data off the one has sleep mode which turns off data after long periods of inactivity, I have that checked, as for wakelock I'm comfortable with 4%.
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Kartikp84 said:
this battery drainage seems to be a big problem with HTC one, is it really as bad as people/users are saying?
if the drain is that bad on the standby should i withhold getting HTC one? im out of the house for more than 14 hrs per day and a juiced up phone is what i need!
GS4 or ONE?
please advise
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The One gets better battery life than the GS4. Rogue apps holding wakelocks won't help either way.

On the related subject of monitoring battery consumption, I have used battery monitor widget since I owned my first Android phone , a Desire HD, however it doesn't measure current correctly on my One.
Does anyone have a recomendation for an app that currently supports the HTC One ?
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Battery life is crap

Brower facebook and tapatalk for about 20 minutes nothing else. Dropped 8% . I also killed my battery yesterday watching a movie and playing a game took a total of 3 hours. What do you guys think.
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let your battery cycle a few times, this phone rivals my iphone 5's battery life, pretty amazing never had a phone before that did that.

No, if it dies that fast then it's user error.
Install betterbatterystats and look for wakelocks.

HRodMusic said:
let your battery cycle a few times, this phone rivals my iphone 5's battery life, pretty amazing never had a phone before that did that.
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How do I cycle?
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horr1blek1tten said:
How do I cycle?
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let it go from 100 to 0 a few times, when i first got the phone my battery was pretty bad but after a couple weeks im getting 20+hours on a single charge =D

There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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Jme369 said:
There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.

HRodMusic said:
well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
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I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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Jme369 said:
There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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Running your battery from 100% to 0% is useful in recalibrating the battery in the event of cell mismatches, which can happen over time.

horr1blek1tten said:
I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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u need to calibrate your battery like the guy above said by using your phone for a few days

horr1blek1tten said:
I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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Here's a very good post for information about li-ion / lithium polymer batteries:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40596097&postcount=3
You generally shouldn't need to recalibrate the battery on a new phone (since it's a new battery), but it doesn't hurt if you think your battery may be mis-calibrated. (for example, your phone sits at 0% battery for long amounts of time) Do you have any apps that monitor wakelocks on your phone?

i was complaining my battery was crap yesterday. iv gained 1 hour in battery since yesterday.
GSam reported 9hours 24mins avg battery yesterday. I cycled it once since then and today its showing 10 hours 38mins avg.
Hoping for further improvements.

The phone needs to know where empty and full battery is. I've always calibrated mine by fully charging and killing at least twice with every phone I've owned and had no il effects and got much better battery life afterwards.

So do I calibrate or cycle? If so, how do I do that? Im fully stock and the only battery app I have is the battery guru made for snapdragon devices. Idk if that's what's killing my battery.
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It does no harm to run the battery to 0% occasionally, but the advice i have seen is to try to not run li-ion / li-po batteries below 10% too often as that can shorten their life.
For a new device i would run it down to around 10% with normal use, then give it a real long charge till it indicates fully charged, then unplug it and wait a minute or so then plug it back in and leave it on charge another couple of hours to make sure it is fully 100% charged.
After you have done this whole procedure maybe 3 times, you should have a properley conditioned battery. My HTC One is usually at 50% or better after a 12 hour working day, so i am more than happy with the battery life.

HRodMusic said:
well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
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You are totally wrong I am afraid. LiON and LiPO batteries do not have memories and neither like a complete discharge/recharge cycle. The rule is 'a little and often' as far as charging is concerned.
Here is a link to an article which will explain further http ://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

proctologist said:
You are totally wrong I am afraid. LiON and LiPO batteries do not have memories and neither like a complete discharge/recharge cycle. The rule is 'a little and often' as far as charging is concerned.
Here is a link to an article which will explain further http ://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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They do NOT have memory effect like nickel-based batteries, but they CAN suffer from cell mismatches which require re-calibration (aka fully charging, discharging, and recharging).

mang0 said:
They do NOT have memory effect like nickel-based batteries, but they CAN suffer from cell mismatches which require re-calibration (aka fully charging, discharging, and recharging).
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exactly!

Basically just use your phone for about a week, then you can start fixing it

My experience and questions
Thanks for this excellent post! I got my new HTC One day before yesterday and like the Vincent's post says, the phone had about 40-50% of charge when it came in the box. I was very excited to see the phone that I totally forgot about recalibration of the battery
I used the phone out of the box, and I have charged from 2 nights (from about 15% to 100% charge) and haven't run the battery the battery down to 0% yet (when I say 0% what I mean is the level of charge when the phone automatically turns itself off to protect from complete discharge). My questions below:
1) What should I do now to accurately calibrate my battery life? When I called HTC customer service today they asked me to do battery reset (steps below).
- Untick the quick boot under settings -> power
- Turn off the phone
- Hold down the volume up, volume down and the power button continuously for 1 minute (the phone seem to boot up and shut down 3-4 times during this process)
- Run your battery all the way down to 0% and then charge it fully to 100%
This seems to be a fair procedure but since it was told by customer service, I'm a bit skeptical. So I would very much love to hear some opinion of battery gurus here
2) Does the 2 night charging that I did affect my battery capacity (has the dent been made already)?
Please let me know, and thanks in advance!
PS. The battery life in my experience in the past 2 days has been decent (I have about 20% from 7am - 9pm) and I'm a moderate-heavy user!

Charging battery

I've been wondering this for a while but can't find much on the web. I was wondering if charging my battery when it's not completely dead will ruin battery efficiency? If for instance my phone is 30% and I'm going to need it for the night is it fine to charge it without the worry of damaging the battery. I'd assume our phones are advanced enough it wouldnt matter but figured I'd ask
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mlese92 said:
I've been wondering this for a while but can't find much on the web. I was wondering if charging my battery when it's not completely dead will ruin battery efficiency? If for instance my phone is 30% and I'm going to need it for the night is it fine to charge it without the worry of damaging the battery. I'd assume our phones are advanced enough it wouldnt matter but figured I'd ask
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Yes, you will be fine. I cant even run my phone out anymore.
Charge away!

mlese92 said:
I've been wondering this for a while but can't find much on the web. I was wondering if charging my battery when it's not completely dead will ruin battery efficiency? If for instance my phone is 30% and I'm going to need it for the night is it fine to charge it without the worry of damaging the battery. I'd assume our phones are advanced enough it wouldnt matter but figured I'd ask
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Au contraire, mon frere. Keep your phone as charged as possible. IF YOU LET YOUR PHONE DIE, IT WILL LOSE CAPACITY. That's all there is to it. Charge it as much as possible, except if the battery is hot. If so, reboot, and let it cool for 5 mins, then charge it.

The first 2 days after I got my phone my battery was dying pretty fast but now that I've had it for a week it's lasting much much longer now.
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sauprankul said:
Au contraire, mon frere. Keep your phone as charged as possible. IF YOU LET YOUR PHONE DIE, IT WILL LOSE CAPACITY. That's all there is to it. Charge it as much as possible, except if the battery is hot. If so, reboot, and let it cool for 5 mins, then charge it.
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Not entirely true. Try to avoid the high end of the charge scale if you can, because then you're banking entirely on the assumption that the onboard controller will correctly charge-cycle the battery from the 95%-100% states. I just don't trust the onbaord that much.
mlese92 said:
I've been wondering this for a while but can't find much on the web. I was wondering if charging my battery when it's not completely dead will ruin battery efficiency? If for instance my phone is 30% and I'm going to need it for the night is it fine to charge it without the worry of damaging the battery. I'd assume our phones are advanced enough it wouldnt matter but figured I'd ask
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No. That used to be a problem with older batteries (where it was known as the memory effect), but current-generation Lithium-ion batteries only suffer from this to an essentially unnoticeable extent. If you drop the battery below 10% or so too often (a deep discharge), you can prematurely erode your capacity. It's a good idea to do this once a month or so to keep things running smoothly, but other than that there's no problem with charging/discharging whenever (outside of force of habit and pride-- you can't boast about long battery life if you're charging often, after all).

Rirere said:
(outside of force of habit and pride-- you can't boast about long battery life if you're charging often, after all).
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I STILL don't get it. How one earth does anybody get decent battery life on this phone, let alone those RIDICULOUS 5 hour screen times? I'm assuming there's no way without rooting, though. I can barely get 2 hours of screen time. And my power saver is always enabled!
Appx 35% of my battery is consumed by kernel. About 20% by the OS.

sauprankul said:
I STILL don't get it. How one earth does anybody get decent battery life on this phone, let alone those RIDICULOUS 5 hour screen times? I'm assuming there's no way without rooting, though. I can barely get 2 hours of screen time. And my power saver is always enabled!
Appx 35% of my battery is consumed by kernel. About 20% by the OS.
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I can just speak for myself. I root my phones before I use them so I have no idea how much better it is.
These guys who make the roms do some amazing stuff and take out a lot of crap to make our phones run better and faster. In that process, the battery life really improves.

Battery lasts REALLY long at 1% battery life?

The other day I was trying to kill my battery, so I let a movie stream from Google Play until it died. It lasted TWO HOURS after the battery hit 1%. Yes, two hours of moving streaming on 1% of battery. See attached screenshot for proof (see the flat line at 1%).
Then, two days ago, I tested again. This time I just let it sit at 1% to see how long it would take to die. It took over 10 hours!! See other screenshot for proof.
Anybody else seeing anything similar? Clearly, when my battery says it is at 1%, it really has about 10-15% battery left.

phositadc said:
The other day I was trying to kill my battery, so I let a movie stream from Google Play until it died. It lasted TWO HOURS after the battery hit 1%. Yes, two hours of moving streaming on 1% of battery. See attached screenshot for proof (see the flat line at 1%).
Then, two days ago, I tested again. This time I just let it sit at 1% to see how long it would take to die. It took over 10 hours!! See other screenshot for proof.
Anybody else seeing anything similar? Clearly, when my battery says it is at 1%, it really has about 10-15% battery left.
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I was doing the same, I watched 3 episodes of Bob's Burgers and it still didn't die.

its an old motorola issue.
i dont know how its for the moto x but for the defy(+) it was pretty bad.

dagoban said:
its an old motorola issue.
i dont know how its for the moto x but for the defy(+) it was pretty bad.
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Haha (not 'Haha I'm laughing at you, but, 'Haha it's funny how different people see things differently).
It seems pretty good to me. I never let my phone get down to 1%. I am going to have to resist the innate urge to charge (owning the GNex meant living next to an outlet).
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thepolishguy said:
Haha (not 'Haha I'm laughing at you, but, 'Haha it's funny how different people see things differently).
It seems pretty good to me. I never let my phone get down to 1%. I am going to have to resist the innate urge to charge (owning the GNex meant living next to an outlet).
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Better than my HTC Vivid that went 3 percent 2 percent 1 percent DEAD in 5 minutes.

thepolishguy said:
Haha (not 'Haha I'm laughing at you, but, 'Haha it's funny how different people see things differently).
It seems pretty good to me. I never let my phone get down to 1%. I am going to have to resist the innate urge to charge (owning the GNex meant living next to an outlet).
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Hah - Yes -
Coming from the GNex its really difficult to not just plug in the X all the time. I have to keep stopping myself.

I'm on my first charge on the Moto X after switching from the GNex and I still have 80% after 12hrs use. This is insane! My Gnex would have died by now.
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taappel said:
I'm on my first charge on the Moto X after switching from the GNex and I still have 80% after 12hrs use. This is insane! My Gnex would have died by now.
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I'm not doubting you but have you, like, used your phone at all?
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taappel said:
I'm on my first charge on the Moto X after switching from the GNex and I still have 80% after 12hrs use. This is insane! My Gnex would have died by now.
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Yeah it's a pretty strong battery.
Also with the 1 percent lasting forever: It's not a bug, it's a reflection of the socio-economic set up of the united states, the 99% die fast, the 1% can pay to live!
I'll shut up now.

chrisjm00 said:
I'm not doubting you but have you, like, used your phone at all?
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Right now I'm at 65% with almost 2hrs of screen time 14hrs total. Not sure how good that is compared to a lot of other phones, but compared to the Gnex it is amazing. I forgot what it was like to not have my phone plugged in all day.
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taappel said:
Right now I'm at 65% with almost 2hrs of screen time 14hrs total. Not sure how good that is compared to a lot of other phones, but compared to the Gnex it is amazing. I forgot what it was like to not have my phone plugged in all day.
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Just saw my Moto X had 65% battery and almost plugged it in thinking it would die soon. The gnex messed my head up.

rman18 said:
Just saw my Moto X had 65% battery and almost plugged it in thinking it would die soon. The gnex messed my head up.
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Same here. I have a plug sitting here and the Moto X next to it and it's so routine to just plug in the GNEX, I want to do the same with the X but I don't have to.

I dont think this is necessarily a bug, I think it takes time for the OS to learn the full scope of the battery - it is always just estimating the charge. I bet after 6 months of use that 1% glitch would go away and you would see more accurate battery reporting. My phone appears to gain %'s when i leave it be after heavy use.

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I dont think this is necessarily a bug, I think it takes time for the OS to learn the full scope of the battery - it is always just estimating the charge. I bet after 6 months of use that 1% glitch would go away and you would see more accurate battery reporting. My phone appears to gain %'s when i leave it be after heavy use.
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Yep same here, phone went from 4% to 7% yesterday when I was trying to make it last. I had turned off Mobile data at 1% battery life yesterday and my phone was dead within 25-30 minutes of being on 1%. I think everyones phone/battery is calibrated differently. With moderate use I'm down to 25-30% left after about 8-9 hours of use. Coming from my S4 I'm so used to being able to Greenify things, I can only imagine what this phone would be like with Greenify.

Same problem
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The other day I was trying to kill my battery, so I let a movie stream from Google Play until it died. It lasted TWO HOURS after the battery hit 1%. Yes, two hours of moving streaming on 1% of battery. See attached screenshot for proof (see the flat line at 1%).
Then, two days ago, I tested again. This time I just let it sit at 1% to see how long it would take to die. It took over 10 hours!! See other screenshot for proof.
Anybody else seeing anything similar? Clearly, when my battery says it is at 1%, it really has about 10-15% battery left.
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My phone is having this exact problem. I get about 10-12 hours battery life down to 1% battery, then it stays on 1% for at least 10-12 more hours. Does anyone know if there is going to be a fix released for this? It messes with my head not knowing when my phone is going to die, and I don't want to charge it if it's not dead. For instance, I'm on 2d 5h 14m on battery and it's been on 1% all day. It's pretty insane. Hope they roll out a fix. Glad to know i'm not the only one with this problem.

Next time this happens log your current and voltage readings using current widget so we can see what voltage the battery reads during this flat period at 1%. Then someone could plot the discharge curve in excel. May lead to clues. Perhaps problem with the fuel gauge or battery driver in the kernel. It all depends.

I seem to remember reading that the battery meter tunes itself over the first few charges, and that for the best accuracy you need to run it all the way down then charge it to 100%. 2-3 cycles of this is what was recommended. Can't speak to the validity of it but I know after running it down the first time and seeing the 1% last nearly 2 hours with heavy game use, on the second charge 1% meant 1%.

kyle1745 said:
I seem to remember reading that the battery meter tunes itself over the first few charges, and that for the best accuracy you need to run it all the way down then charge it to 100%. 2-3 cycles of this is what was recommended. Can't speak to the validity of it but I know after running it down the first time and seeing the 1% last nearly 2 hours with heavy game use, on the second charge 1% meant 1%.
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I'm on my second cycle of running it all the way down now, so we will see after the first 2-3 times if it calibrates itself. If not, i may be bringing my phone back, or ask verizon if they are going to be releasing a fix for it.

Really take it back for that?
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I'm on my second cycle of running it all the way down now, so we will see after the first 2-3 times if it calibrates itself. If not, i may be bringing my phone back, or ask verizon if they are going to be releasing a fix for it.
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kyle1745 said:
Really take it back for that?
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admittedly, probably not. lol. it's just a bit annoying.

Battery life :?

Hi, For those who got nexus 6 somehow or who can just guess:
How much is battery going to be ?
Also when they say 8 hours of usage from 15mins charge, 8 hours of video? Or browsing? Or calling ? Or.... 8 hours of what usage ? How long does it take for it to fully charge? And how many percent does the battery get charged after 15mins?
This is just the most awesome thing its like its built for me , only problem is battery life ! (my nexus 4 batterylife is not good, but not unbelievable !) i always carry my nexus 4 charger with myself !(in my pocket)
+ , i hope my father will have some money till than :| or i should give up my espresso machine

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Hi, For those who got nexus 6 somehow or who can just guess:
How much is battery going to be ?
Also when they say 8 hours of usage from 15mins charge, 8 hours of video? Or browsing? Or calling ? Or.... 8 hours of what usage ? How long does it take for it to fully charge? And how many percent does the battery get charged after 15mins?
This is just the most awesome thing its like its built for me , only problem is battery life ! (my nexus 4 batterylife is not good, but not unbelievable !) i always carry my nexus 4 charger with myself !(in my pocket)
+ , i hope my father will have some money till than :| or i should give up my espresso machine
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Its got simmilar specs as the note 4, so you can expect simmilar performance.
Also, dont expect it to arrive anytime soon around the world.

phoneareana tweeted it lags behind the note , but link is broken.
https://twitter.com/phonearena/status/529205109725462528

VTEChump said:
phoneareana tweeted it lags behind the note , but link is broken.
https://twitter.com/phonearena/status/529205109725462528
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Embargo+Not final software which is why they pulled the link.
Also, the title is very misleading, the difference in life is an hour apart between devices.

Dr Faustus said:
Embargo+Not final software which is why they pulled the link.
Also, the title is very misleading, the difference in life is an hour apart between devices.
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Even if it isn't the final software, it's still very surprising to me. I thought for sure it would beat the note out.

kamranhaghighi said:
Hi, For those who got nexus 6 somehow or who can just guess:
How much is battery going to be ?
Also when they say 8 hours of usage from 15mins charge, 8 hours of video? Or browsing? Or calling ? Or.... 8 hours of what usage ? How long does it take for it to fully charge? And how many percent does the battery get charged after 15mins?
This is just the most awesome thing its like its built for me , only problem is battery life ! (my nexus 4 batterylife is not good, but not unbelievable !) i always carry my nexus 4 charger with myself !(in my pocket)
+ , i hope my father will have some money till than :| or i should give up my espresso machine
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They've only said how many hours in how many minutes of charge. But if I had to guess, it's probably 25% in 15 minutes. And the 8 hours is most likely standby time.

Dr Faustus said:
Embargo+Not final software which is why they pulled the link.
Also, the title is very misleading, the difference in life is an hour apart between devices.
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One hour isn't bad, especially if the software is still being tweaked. Were you able to see the link at some point, or how do you know there is an hour difference between the devices?
Just found the link, even better, only about 50 minutes separate the two.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...mplete-phablet-lags-behind-the-Note-4_id62400

Awesome ! Thanks guys!
Just one last Question : do you think that quick charge can damage the battery(lifespan) ?

Thats still great!! Awesome ! Even if that isnt the final result(tweak ect) its great!
My nexus 4 battery is so small!!! I always keep the charger in my pocket! + a solar panel connected to a power bank(900mah) in trips

kamranhaghighi said:
Just one last Question : do you think that quick charge can damage the battery(lifespan) ?
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Yes, that's why i'm putting custom kernel on mine, and lower the current. Both batteries are amazing, and last long enough, only 50 mins difference, but Nexus 6 display is also bigger, so there is that.

dazed1 said:
Yes, that's why i'm putting custom kernel on mine, and lower the current. Both batteries are amazing, and last long enough, only 50 mins difference, but Nexus 6 display is also bigger, so there is that.
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noooooooooo
;( thatd so bad. Why would they do that? When they know it damages the battery?;(

kamranhaghighi said:
noooooooooo
;( thatd so bad. Why would they do that? When they know it damages the battery?;(
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As long as the battery lasts until the next nexus comes out. I'm OK. Surely this has been tested enough to get a year out of the battery. Time will tell. But it does tapper off after it has so much charge. I'm putting a little faith in battery technology. And maybe I could use custom kernel and then flash stock when I NEED a quick charge
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Ahh, the good ol' battery life questions. Most stupid/ridiculous/irrelevant question anyone can ask because it is very much subjective. 4 hours SOT could only mean 2 for someone else, and maybe closer to 6 for others.
There are so many things that can influence how good or bad battery life is for each and every individual - some things can make a significant difference. Everything from the apps you use, those that are signal in the background, screen brightness, cell signal quality, are you using wifi, is your phone in airplane mode, do you play games and if so do they also require an internet connection.
Battery life questions and more than that, battery stats pictures drive me absolutely insane. Those that post them are clearly highlighting their lack of knowledge and general stupidity.

ggreenwood334 said:
As long as the battery lasts until the next nexus comes out. I'm OK. Surely this has been tested enough to get a year out of the battery. Time will tell. But it does tapper off after it has so much charge. I'm putting a little faith in battery technology. And maybe I could use custom kernel and then flash stock when I NEED a quick charge
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But i plan to keep my nexus 6 untill end of my days!
Btw! I was waiting for answers like: WI-FI: On,min brightness : 7hours of video playback!
I saw tests like this on gsmarena, all tests are at same setting so i can get idea of how long they last!

Nucleotide said:
Ahh, the good ol' battery life questions. Most stupid/ridiculous/irrelevant question anyone can ask because it is very much subjective. 4 hours SOT could only mean 2 for someone else, and maybe closer to 6 for others.
There are so many things that can influence how good or bad battery life is for each and every individual - some things can make a significant difference. Everything from the apps you use, those that are signal in the background, screen brightness, cell signal quality, are you using wifi, is your phone in airplane mode, do you play games and if so do they also require an internet connection.
Battery life questions and more than that, battery stats pictures drive me absolutely insane. Those that post them are clearly highlighting their lack of knowledge and general stupidity.
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+ there is no repair stuff here! So when battery is gone so is my phone :/
Even if they open it, they likely break some parts or scratch it horribly! And make it greasy!

kamranhaghighi said:
But i plan to keep my nexus 6 untill end of my days!
Btw! I was waiting for answers like: WI-FI: On,min brightness : 7hours of video playback!
I saw tests like this on gsmarena, all tests are at same setting so i can get idea of how long they last!
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I sure hope it doesn't hurt the battery. I'm not an expert in that department. This is the bad part about a newer technology. Maybe that's why apple is always 3 years behind. Lol
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The charging current itself shouldn't really impact the wear on the battery. The only increased wear would be due to the increased heat generated by faster charging.
That said, I think it's a good trade-off. My Nexus 5 charges to full in about 1h20m, and I'm able to deal with the lackluster battery life as a result.

raptir said:
The charging current itself shouldn't really impact the wear on the battery. The only increased wear would be due to the increased heat generated by faster charging.
That said, I think it's a good trade-off. My Nexus 5 charges to full in about 1h20m, and I'm able to deal with the lackluster battery life as a result.
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You are wrong. They both affect battery life. There are current limits, and recommendations because of this.

Who here actually works for a battery company? We have no idea what they have done to maybe make this efficient.
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ggreenwood334 said:
Who here actually works for a battery company? We have no idea what they have done to maybe make this efficient.
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Sure we do, they use 2A charge rate, instead of ~1.5/1.2