[Q] Without - Anti Shatter Film - display - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys
Currently I'm using an s3 .. But am going to buy a new phone next month and I'm confused between Xperia Z and the Htc one
The only thing which I dont like about the Z is that when using the anti shatter film , the phone doesn't have good display from some angles ..
So I've searched alot to see if there is a difference in display after removing the anti shatter film .. But I found nothing
Any ideas ?
Thanks in advance
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Well I must say I removed mine the other day and in my eyes the screen colours look better and to be fair that was the best thing I done for my phone is to take that **** off from the screen.

I have still got mine on and sorry can you tell me what angle is meant to be bad because I can't find it (if you understand what I am saying)
I cannot fault the XZ I have just had it over 2 months and extremely happy with it
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Maddhouse said:
I have still got mine on and sorry can you tell me what angle is meant to be bad because I can't find it (if you understand what I am saying)
I cannot fault the XZ I have just had it over 2 months and extremely happy with it
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Hi mate
You can watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlhXpHULwys&feature=youtube_gdata_player
You can start from 3:30
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Make it clear that with the latest firmware update, the Xperia Z received a significant improvement in Question colors, angles and contrast of the screen!
I removed my ASF and noticed an improvement in the brightness of the screen!

and8res said:
Hi guys
Currently I'm using an s3 .. But am going to buy a new phone next month and I'm confused between Xperia Z and the Htc one
The only thing which I dont like about the Z is that when using the anti shatter film , the phone doesn't have good display from some angles ..
So I've searched alot to see if there is a difference in display after removing the anti shatter film .. But I found nothing
Any ideas ?
Thanks in advance
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dont take it off if you dont have a screen protector replacement...my god that screen attract more oil than my S3+S2 combine! its horrible for a flagship device..

Does anybody know if i can find an original film?Mine is very scratched and i don't want to lose the Sony logo.
Thank You

alexchris said:
Does anybody know if i can find an original film?Mine is very scratched and i don't want to lose the Sony logo.
Thank You
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It's apparently baked on the screen.
New screen if you want the Sony logo back.
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xchasa said:
It's apparently baked on the screen.
New screen if you want the Sony logo back.
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Sad, but true!
Do not have anywhere to sell!

" the phone doesn't have good display from some angles "
I think the Z's display is fantastic. The fact that the viewing angle is somewhat narrow has an upside in that ambient light seems to be blocked out more effectively.

jcarr1 said:
" the phone doesn't have good display from some angles "
I think the Z's display is fantastic. The fact that the viewing angle is somewhat narrow has an upside in that ambient light seems to be blocked out more effectively.
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not only that, but there are 2 things i don't understand with this "viewing angle craze":
1. what person uses their phone while looking at it from a narrow angle ?
i'd say that probably 99% of the time, everyone uses their phone looking more or less straight at the display.
2. when i look at the prices for extra foils that secure the device from people looking over your shoulder... i'd say we already have that feature for FREE !!! (you know, it's not a bug, it's a FEATURE ! ).
Also, from what i could see (and read) about FW .253 the "problem" seems to be mostly gone or can at least be minimized through the new display balance settings.
More importantly: as long as you don't have another phone to compare it with you, you most likely won't have as much of a problem with the display as everyone says.
At least i know that i don't have any problems with it, i actually love the display (but i had a Xperia Arc before, so the bigger, brighter screen with its hd resolution is rather impressive in comparrison :cyclops: )

M4cb3th said:
not only that, but there are 2 things i don't understand with this "viewing angle craze":
1. what person uses their phone while looking at it from a narrow angle ?
i'd say that probably 99% of the time, everyone uses their phone looking more or less straight at the display.
2. when i look at the prices for extra foils that secure the device from people looking over your shoulder... i'd say we already have that feature for FREE !!! (you know, it's not a bug, it's a FEATURE ! ).
Also, from what i could see (and read) about FW .253 the "problem" seems to be mostly gone or can at least be minimized through the new display balance settings.
More importantly: as long as you don't have another phone to compare it with you, you most likely won't have as much of a problem with the display as everyone says.
At least i know that i don't have any problems with it, i actually love the display (but i had a Xperia Arc before, so the bigger, brighter screen with its hd resolution is rather impressive in comparrison :cyclops: )
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The display is fantastic really.
Whilst flashing 253 update and wiping the z, I used my mint GS3 to do some work. Talk about an eye strain looking at text after using the Xperia Z for 2 months.
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M4cb3th said:
not only that, but there are 2 things i don't understand with this "viewing angle craze":
1. what person uses their phone while looking at it from a narrow angle ?
i'd say that probably 99% of the time, everyone uses their phone looking more or less straight at the display.
2. when i look at the prices for extra foils that secure the device from people looking over your shoulder... i'd say we already have that feature for FREE !!! (you know, it's not a bug, it's a FEATURE ! ).
Also, from what i could see (and read) about FW .253 the "problem" seems to be mostly gone or can at least be minimized through the new display balance settings.
More importantly: as long as you don't have another phone to compare it with you, you most likely won't have as much of a problem with the display as everyone says.
At least i know that i don't have any problems with it, i actually love the display (but i had a Xperia Arc before, so the bigger, brighter screen with its hd resolution is rather impressive in comparrison :cyclops: )
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i agree with you,, 99% smartphone users tend to view it straight on..(including me)
IMO for bad viewing angles as they say, well for me its a very good thing,, of course i dont want my seatmate or anyone reading what messages im reading on,, what if you have some transactions with and will probably they will knew about it cause of the better viewing angle.. privacy issues right..
when watching movies or photo viewing, ur not watching a movie tilted..always dead on..
and on topic with ASF,,,i suggest not to remove it.. protection for unwanted scratches yes, but the best thing to do put thin screen protctor on top ASF.. if it wont bother you..

G1_enthusiast said:
dont take it off if you dont have a screen protector replacement...my god that screen attract more oil than my S3+S2 combine! its horrible for a flagship device..
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Have you tried treating your screen with for example a car glass wax? Keeps it free from fingerprints for quite some time without the need to get a screen protector replacement.
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Do people put another screen protector on top of the anti shatter ?
My case came with screen protectors and I dunno if I should apply it
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Blabert said:
Have you tried treating your screen with for example a car glass wax? Keeps it free from fingerprints for quite some time without the need to get a screen protector replacement.
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no i try rain-x which have the same property but its still pretty bad.

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[Q] what are the cons of Xperia Z?

I'm going to buy Xperia z in a few days - months, my question is: what have let you down in Xperia Z?
I already know about screen.
I kindly ask people which don't own this phone to not answer.
As I've seen many of the devs are going to buy or already have Xperia z, (im coming from Xperia Play and I've had great developers, most of them have moved to newer device, so I I'm going to do the same).
So to make it quick: what you don't like in your phone?
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olokos said:
I'm going to buy Xperia z in a few days - months, my question is: what have let you down in Xperia Z?
I already know about screen.
I kindly ask people which don't own this phone to not answer.
As I've seen many of the devs are going to buy or already have Xperia z, (im coming from Xperia Play and I've had great developers, most of them have moved to newer device, so I I'm going to do the same).
So to make it quick: what you don't like in your phone?
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The phone is amazing I am happy with everything apart from the camera quality in low light situations, the camera is excellent in outdoor good light photos but poor in my opinion indoors. I would definitely recommend this phone hopefully a update might sort the camera out.
- the phone gets hot when you use it to much
- Screen on time is about 3.5-4.5h
- backside is glass
- the screen doesn't work when full of water
- It is big, sometimes doesn't reach the whole screen with the tumb without moving my hand position.
- camera doesn't always make good pictures.
But how hard you want to value which con is your opinion! IMHO i dislike the glass back... and i wish i had way better battery... but this are dreams.
Get it because it's an awesome phone. Ignore the claims that the screen isn't good. I mean, how retarded do you have to be to complain about the fact that the viewing angle is crap when you hold it at like 5 degree. The colours are way better than on Samsung Galaxy Phones.
Haldi4803 said:
- the phone gets hot when you use it to much
- Screen on time is about 3.5-4.5h
- backside is glass
- the screen doesn't work when full of water
- It is big, sometimes doesn't reach the whole screen with the tumb without moving my hand position.
- camera doesn't always make good pictures.
But how hard you want to value which con is your opinion! IMHO i dislike the glass back... and i wish i had way better battery... but this are dreams.
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I don't know, how many smartphones you had before, but I can assure you that it doesn't get hotter than the competition. Actually, a Galaxy S 2 gets hotter than the Xperia Z. And listing the glass-back as well as the size as a cons (or saying you dislike that) isn't really fair since those features were well known before you decided to buy it. And why would you like to use the screen under water?
In respect to the phone getting hot, I would say this is the same for most smartphones of this ilk. My Desire, Arc and XS, got very hot, but this is considered to be quite normal and nothing to worry about.
The XZ is a wonderful device. It's a noticeable upgrade from my XS and a fair bit bigger, but all in all no complaints.
The only negative points I can think of is that the camera ap starts up quite slow and that you can't change toggles in the notification bar by default.
Those are 2 things that should/could be solved really easy though.
Main things:
1) Camera app is sluggish, as already mentioned
2) Speaker on side - gets blocked by hand so you have to learn a new grip in order to not muffle your music/phone call
3) Power button on middle of right side - if you take a call when the phone's in a car dock doing satnav stuff, the phone (according to how it's set) can lock and turn the display off after the call so you have to try and press the button - which might mean taking the phone out of the dock while driving (or not!). I ended up installing an app that wakes up the phone when I wave near its proximity sensor.
noticed only this when shootin video in dark places and you turn on the light. the light is bad. miss has xperia t and light on her device is much more brighter. also in call volume isnt that great but im sure devs or sony will fix this up (lower volume because water proof cover). camera app is
indeed slow when u run it but i think its because its same app as it was on xperia x1 and didnt get much love
about camera learn basics bout takin pics and set camera to manual you will get great results
about speaker on side .. no problem for me cuz im left handed
about screen dont belive those reviews screen is really great and i mean great
Haldi4803 said:
- the phone gets hot when you use it to much
- Screen on time is about 3.5-4.5h
- backside is glass
- the screen doesn't work when full of water
- It is big, sometimes doesn't reach the whole screen with the tumb without moving my hand position.
- camera doesn't always make good pictures.
But how hard you want to value which con is your opinion! IMHO i dislike the glass back... and i wish i had way better battery... but this are dreams.
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is the battery really bad?
zzcool said:
is the battery really bad?
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I've went to the shop to check it out, most of these cons can be software-fixed.
But my biggest point in cons is
- speaker is crappy when playing music (no bass, I'm comming from xperia play which had 2 stereo speakers and they were great) not fixable
Viewing angles aren't that bad actually, it may be a little bit worse than top phones from other manufacturers but it's not that bad
I'd like to have an opinion from somebody about the battery...
Thanks to everyone for giving me some more advices for checking it out myself
The battery is amazing,playing game for 10 minutes,downloading apps and games from playstore,web browsing,and xda app.it last for 6 hours screen on time.could last for a day with 4 hours screen on.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39094453&postcount=293
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Battery at stand by is excellent can go for 35hr with light use.
Battery at Screen time is good, I can go up to 4 hours.
My only con is screen in bright sun
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Odp: [Q] what are the cons of Xperia Z?
So by saying it lasts 6 hours with screen on this means that it will go from 100% to 0% after 6 hours screen on, right? Well that's not a huge step but it's not bad, thanks
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[Q] Users with white Sony Xperia Z's - Quick Question

Hi,
Yeah ok I haven't searched if there's a thread on this (if so, don't worry Mods I'll close it). Quick question,
Those with the white Sony Xperia Z, Do you use a case and screen protector? I'm worried my XZ will change color in my jeans or black trousers... I'm particularly worried in the sides. Sony's quality is much better than HTCs so im just worried as im an ex HTC user.
Am I just worried over a silly matter or is it a problem?
Edit - They give us a screen protector... Do they know something we dont?
Thanks all.
Just got it today and im looking to port Sense 5.0 to it
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Good to see more devs here
I have the white Z,
3 months now without cover or screen protector and still like a new one.
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I've not seen many white XZ around Rome. But from what I've read on some forum that the only part slightly sensitive to external colours is the plastic around the glass. But it can be removed just washing it, nothing permanent seems... :good:
For my white Xperia Z i use front n back screen protection and Spigen ultra slim case...result. In perfect and like New condition peace-out :beer:
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Taylor_Swift said:
They give us a screen protector... Do they know something we dont?
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That's because there is a factory-applied anti-shatter film on top of the glass which is easier to scratch than the glass is (obviously), so they provide the screen protector because of anticipated higher demand of it.
Taylor_Swift said:
Just got it today and im looking to port Sense 5.0 to it
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Please don't
Also, your signature is ridiculously large.
Rekoil said:
That's because there is a factory-applied anti-shatter film on top of the glass which is easier to scratch than the glass is (obviously), so they provide the screen protector because of anticipated higher demand of it.
Please don't
Also, your signature is ridiculously large.
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Sorry. I do a lot of XDA work. Really? Sense 5 and Optimus UI would be awesome on the XZ
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Taylor_Swift said:
Sorry. I do a lot of XDA work. Really? Sense 5 and Optimus UI would be awesome on the XZ
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Hehe, I was just kidding. Definitely couldn't hurt!
I use the case mate tough case and a screen protector, works great and phone is in perfect condition.
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I've got a white Xperia Z for 4 mounths now with no case or screen protector, always in my pocket... no color change is noticeable
Thanks for putting the doubt out of my mind guys...
Cause im nice ill thank y'all
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gm007 said:
Good to see more devs here
I have the white Z,
3 months now without cover or screen protector and still like a new one.
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This :good:
You can rest easy on this one. I've had mine since the day 3 launched it on their network. No screen protector and no case, although I have a Poetic stand type case for watching videos but that's only been used twice, and not a scratch on the glass or a colour out of place. The only thing I would say is watch the plastic trim around the sides, luckily on the white one its hard to notice but of you drop it a few times the surface comes off.
Mines been dropped off a ladder at work onto concrete, fallen out my pocket whilst mountain biking and been run over by another bike, it's been pressure washed (although the little water sensor things did all turn red at that point) and it's been stood on.
I've never seen a phone that holds up this well to abuse since the old Nokia 3310.
do you still have plans for sense 5 port?
sinnerghost said:
do you still have plans for sense 5 port?
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Yeah... Just on hold
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I want to buy this phone, but..

I am an Samsung Galaxy SII owner right now and i was looking for a bigger phone with fullHD screen an so on. One of the things i care about a phone, is the resitance of the display, like my SII, one of the strongest phones I had. I saw on MWC 2013 that the guy from the stand just dropped the phone and nothing happened. So i am asking for some real life experiences. Does anyone dropped it face down? What happened? Is the display so strong like it is said?
ionutz727 said:
I am an Samsung Galaxy SII owner right now and i was looking for a bigger phone with fullHD screen an so on. One of the things i care about a phone, is the resitance of the display, like my SII, one of the strongest phones I had. I saw on MWC 2013 that the guy from the stand just dropped the phone and nothing happened. So i am asking for some real life experiences. Does anyone dropped it face down? What happened? Is the display so strong like it is said?
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It's ok. Not as good as my neo though.
Don't expect too much from a glassy phone.
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ionutz727 said:
I am an Samsung Galaxy SII owner right now and i was looking for a bigger phone with fullHD screen an so on. One of the things i care about a phone, is the resitance of the display, like my SII, one of the strongest phones I had. I saw on MWC 2013 that the guy from the stand just dropped the phone and nothing happened. So i am asking for some real life experiences. Does anyone dropped it face down? What happened? Is the display so strong like it is said?
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I dropped mine twice waist level, once face down and the other face up. The screen didn't break but the sides of the phone chipped a bit. Why don't you just wait and buy the z1 since its coming pretty soon.
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joejoe23 said:
I dropped mine twice waist level, once face down and the other face up. The screen didn't break but the sides of the phone chipped a bit. Why don't you just wait and buy the z1 since its coming pretty soon.
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I found pretty good offer for this phone. The Z1 will be more expensive, i guess. I really don't know any other late 2012-2013 phone which has such a display resistance.
Any other people who dropped this phone?
I dropped my xz from a height of around a meter. It landed on its back straight onto a metal surface.
I didn't want to look at it at first, but when I did all was fine.
Its a very well made phone,not like the plastic Samsung's which I'm sure would have broken.
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it seems to be a very strong phone, i think i will buy it
ionutz727 said:
it seems to be a very strong phone, i think i will buy it
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It's a great phone, the only thing that pisses me off are the battery that depletes WAY and WAY to fast most of the times and the camera software really needs a lot more improvement, because I don't believe the sensor is bad. When you have plenty of light, it can make the greatest pictures, but when you barely have any light you can count the pixels/grains....
Dsteppa said:
It's a great phone, the only thing that pisses me off are the battery that depletes WAY and WAY to fast most of the times and the camera software really needs a lot more improvement, because I don't believe the sensor is bad. When you have plenty of light, it can make the greatest pictures, but when you barely have any light you can count the pixels/grains....
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maybe its just an software problem
Phone is very strong made, dropped it alot of times, and once I droppen the phone on purpose because friends wanted to see what'll happen. Only the flap of the earbuds has a mark on it. The body is very strong and will keep the screen on it's place
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I dropped mine out my bedroom window by accident, taking a picture of a beautiful sun set and and the window blew shut and I dropped the handset.
It bounced down the sloped roof below my window, the smashed screen first into the patio before bouncing and hitting the sundial.
I basically shat myself. But alas the only mark was a very small (3mm) crack in the light corner of the back glass.
It's also been dropped from around 6ft onto concrete face first, no damage.
BUT on a hot day last week I left it on my van's dashboard in direct sunlight. I had literally just replaced the screen protector and there wasn't any marks.
Come back an hour later and there is a large crack in the top right corner.... Caused by the heat!
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When are the displays going to improve?

Saw a brand new Z1 and unboxed it instore in phones4u, and the screen was perfect.
So i jumped the gun and ordered one for my wife from phones.co.uk.
Arrived this morning and tested the display, very good looking head on, but viewing angles are horrendous.
Im in two minds about keeping this, my wife probably not going to be bothered about the viewing angles so i may keep it, but this is a serious flaw in an otherwise amazing handset. Not yet checked camera or anything, this is supposed to be a surprise so dont want it to look used!
If I return it, how long should i wait before getting another one in hope of getting a better display?
Also, where is the fanboy that insisted retail units would be fine and crappy screens were restricted to pre production samples?
You bought the device knowing it had bad viewing angles and making a thread about when it is getting better lol
I'm sure you can answer your own question. You're one funny guy.
So you bought it for your wife. But your using it. So let your wife use it and let her decide. Again you bought it for her.
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Theres no point in opening this kind of threads as sony is not going to come and comment on when the displays will improve..u looked the z1 and u ordered it its ur fault dnt blame sony
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I really don't understand how people can say a screen is bad based on it's viewing angles. I mean, come on! What kind of angles are we talking about? Don't you look at the phone straight on?
I find it useful for me, I don't like people having a peek at what I'm doing... But definitely the screen itself isn't bad, viewing angles are a subjective topic!
kashppo said:
I really don't understand how people can say a screen is bad based on it's viewing angles. I mean, come on! What kind of angles are we talking about? Don't you look at the phone straight on?
I find it useful for me, I don't like people having a peek at what I'm doing... But definitely the screen itself isn't bad, viewing angles are a subjective topic!
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I think it's just because this determines the quality of a display in general. Sony is putting low-quality TN matrices into their devices and that's a phenomenon in mobile world today because all the other manufacturers are using more advanced displays in their high-end devices (HTC, Nokia, LG, Apple - IPS, Samsung, Nokia - OLED). It's not good when you tilt the phone 30 degs. and see strong color degradation. It's not that you look at the screen at an angle all the time but even if you look 5% of the time you want the picture to be good. It's hard to spend money on this device knowing it lacks in this important aspect. This is more strange because the older Z Ultra has better display (IPS probably?).
I also understand this may not be a problem for some and I generally find the Z1 very nice device but waiting impatiently for Sony to improve the display tech.
kashppo said:
I really don't understand how people can say a screen is bad based on it's viewing angles. I mean, come on! What kind of angles are we talking about? Don't you look at the phone straight on?
I find it useful for me, I don't like people having a peek at what I'm doing... But definitely the screen itself isn't bad, viewing angles are a subjective topic!
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Well if the phone is on a table or you're using the phone while lying on bad (just two examples), naturally the phone won't be dead-on your face.
tom369 said:
I think it's just because this determines the quality of a display in general. Sony is putting low-quality TN matrices into their devices and that's a phenomenon in mobile world today because all the other manufacturers are using more advanced displays in their high-end devices (HTC, Nokia, LG, Apple - IPS, Samsung, Nokia - OLED). It's not good when you tilt the phone 30 degs. and see strong color degradation. It's not that you look at the screen at an angle all the time but even if you look 5% of the time you want the picture to be good. It's hard to spend money on this device knowing it lacks in this important aspect. This is more strange because the older Z Ultra has better display (IPS probably?).
I also understand this may not be a problem for some and I generally find the Z1 very nice device but waiting impatiently for Sony to improve the display tech.
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One thing people dont understand is that OLED is not water proof, deteriorates very fast... and sun legibility is next to 0...
FYI Sony is not using TN display they are using VA...
I still don't understand people's complain about this viewing angle thing. I have used Samsung, HTC phones and Sony Z1. I have no complaint about it sdisplay. Viewing angle is good, may not be the best but it is quite good. This is waterproof phone, which means they have to use different display that is not used by non-waterproof phone. Some trade-offs have to be made in order to make electronic device waterproof. You can either have the best waterproof phone or best display phone, not both.
Sitti01 said:
I still don't understand people's complain about this viewing angle thing. I have used Samsung, HTC phones and Sony Z1. I have no complaint about it sdisplay. Viewing angle is good, may not be the best but it is quite good. This is waterproof phone, which means they have to use different display that is not used by non-waterproof phone. Some trade-offs have to be made in order to make electronic device waterproof. You can either have the best waterproof phone or best display phone, not both.
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I totally agree with each and every word you said! :good: :good:
Sitti01 said:
I still don't understand people's complain about this viewing angle thing. I have used Samsung, HTC phones and Sony Z1. I have no complaint about it sdisplay. Viewing angle is good, may not be the best but it is quite good. This is waterproof phone, which means they have to use different display that is not used by non-waterproof phone. Some trade-offs have to be made in order to make electronic device waterproof. You can either have the best waterproof phone or best display phone, not both.
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Lol what a bunch of bullocks. How would you explain then the Z Ultra superior viewing angles despite being waterproof as well?
Sitti01 said:
I still don't understand people's complain about this viewing angle thing. I have used Samsung, HTC phones and Sony Z1. I have no complaint about it sdisplay. Viewing angle is good, may not be the best but it is quite good. This is waterproof phone, which means they have to use different display that is not used by non-waterproof phone. Some trade-offs have to be made in order to make electronic device waterproof. You can either have the best waterproof phone or best display phone, not both.
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This is a load of rubbish, it does not have a poor screen because it is water proof - there are z1's out there with an amazing screen. Unfortunately its a bit of a lottery which type you end up with. The one i saw in the shop was perfect, mine, not so much.
rarsi123 said:
This is a load of rubbish, it does not have a poor screen because it is water proof - there are z1's out there with an amazing screen. Unfortunately its a bit of a lottery which type you end up with. The one i saw in the shop was perfect, mine, not so much.
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To be honest this thread is total rubbish.
Viewing angles, how many people want to look at the phone in any other way than being head on is beyond a joke! But I want to share a movie with me mate or gf, really? It's your bloody phone, it was designed to be looked at head on, not tilted and not really for sharing, we have things called TV's for sharing movies etc.
Another bloody useless thread for whinging babies!!!!
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Morlock O said:
One thing people dont understand is that OLED is not water proof, deteriorates very fast... and sun legibility is next to 0...
FYI Sony is not using TN display they are using VA...
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Like the display type governs whether or not the phone is waterproof.
Waterproofing is something sony has added to their phone, regardless of display type. And yes, the screens in Sony handsets are poor compared to the competition, but not everyone is bothered by this.
I for one can't stand when black is never black but grey, turning more towards light grey if you just tilt it a few degrees.
Apoxx said:
Like the display type governs whether or not the phone is waterproof.
Waterproofing is something sony has added to their phone, regardless of display type. And yes, the screens in Sony handsets are poor compared to the competition, but not everyone is bothered by this.
I for one can't stand when black is never black but grey, turning more towards light grey if you just tilt it a few degrees.
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and what do you have to say about yellow turning green
http://timg.eprice.com.tw/tw/mobile..._3_SONY-_1337411f4c51a1320ad7f7ed2c7dea2a.jpg
and red turning brown
http://timg.eprice.com.tw/tw/mobile..._3_SONY-_e112861da9ad118250cf01daceedd6f8.jpg
sauce
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/4881355/1/rv/sony-xperia-z1-i1-Honami-review/
if Z1 display is horrible I say OLED is also a scam.
rarsi123 said:
Saw a brand new Z1 and unboxed it instore in phones4u, and the screen was perfect.
So i jumped the gun and ordered one for my wife from phones.co.uk.
Arrived this morning and tested the display, very good looking head on, but viewing angles are horrendous.
Im in two minds about keeping this, my wife probably not going to be bothered about the viewing angles so i may keep it, but this is a serious flaw in an otherwise amazing handset. Not yet checked camera or anything, this is supposed to be a surprise so dont want it to look used!
If I return it, how long should i wait before getting another one in hope of getting a better display?
Also, where is the fanboy that insisted retail units would be fine and crappy screens were restricted to pre production samples?
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I don't see so much this problem, I'm not using my phone as a TV so view angles are important and the screen is super usable, as said before what I like more than anything else is its LUMINOSITY, is the ONLY phone that can beat the iPhone (actually the best one) under the sun. I prefer less view angles and be able to use my phone outside. That without consider that the screen has really nice colors (and realistic)
ianford10 said:
To be honest this thread is total rubbish.
Viewing angles, how many people want to look at the phone in any other way than being head on is beyond a joke! But I want to share a movie with me mate or gf, really? It's your bloody phone, it was designed to be looked at head on, not tilted and not really for sharing, we have things called TV's for sharing movies etc.
Another bloody useless thread for whinging babies!!!!
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I've been using my Z1 for like 2 weeks now.. Personally, viewing angles are a bit worse compared to the S3 but I still am quite easily able to read stuff at an angle. The yellow hue issue is placeboo really speaking... I have no issue with it to be honest...
Sean473 said:
I've been using my Z1 for like 2 weeks now.. Personally, viewing angles are a bit worse compared to the S3 but I still am quite easily able to read stuff at an angle. The yellow hue issue is placeboo really speaking... I have no issue with it to be honest...
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I can assure you there is a problem with the screen as I have both the xperia z1 and the xperia z and my xperia z has a far better screen with more contrast and colour. I am taking mine in and will be showing them both phones so they can see how bad the screen is.
The OP has spammed and run. delete the thread from the HTC employee.

Anyone Come from an Note 3?

Any one switch from a Note 3? I have been highly looking into getting the Z1, and my Note 3 just sold on Amazon (Wasnt expecting it too) So I need a new Phone Any Issues to be aware of besides the Viewing angles?
hyelton said:
Any one switch from a Note 3? I have been highly looking into getting the Z1, and my Note 3 just sold on Amazon (Wasnt expecting it too) So I need a new Phone Any Issues to be aware of besides the Viewing angles?
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Nope... not a single one... and imo the viewing angles really aren't that bad... maybe i just got good panel but colors arent washing out on me... no matter what angle... its just that there must be a "problem" on every phone.
Btw lol my gaming rig has more performance than your server
migidid said:
Nope... not a single one... and imo the viewing angles really aren't that bad... maybe i just got good panel but colors arent washing out on me... no matter what angle... its just that there must be a "problem" on every phone.
Btw lol my gaming rig has more performance than your server
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I`m really thinking about buying one it seems like a great phone!
So Your Gaming Rig has Intel Xeon E5-2620 X4 Physical CPU`s? Right now the going price is like $400 a CPU
Or do you mean my Personal Computer?
if you consider viewing angle an important point, you better start looking at Xperia Z2 instead of Z1
things to watch out for.... the glass scratches easier than you thought, at least in my case
and Z1 still have that plastic anti shatter film on both sides, unlike Z2 which goes naked glass
you'll need a good tempered glass screen guard
Yes its the best phone ive touched !
And yes i was talking about your server no 4 physical cpus (would if could) but i have 2 Intel i7 4960X that costs about 1000 per one and they are oc'd to 4.5Ghz. so atleast same amount of speed... motherboard is EVGA SR-X 270-SE-W888-KR, videocards are Nvidia Titans x2 on SLI mode, 64Gb DDR3 ram, 2 240Gb SSDNow KC300s on RAID1 and some other stuff including self built liquid cooling etc. Case is Corsair Obsidian 900D
So yeah
migidid said:
Nope... not a single one... and imo the viewing angles really aren't that bad... maybe i just got good panel but colors arent washing out on me... no matter what angle... its just that there must be a "problem" on every phone.
Btw lol my gaming rig has more performance than your server
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zegun said:
if you consider viewing angle an important point, you better start looking at Xperia Z2 instead of Z1
things to watch out for.... the glass scratches easier than you thought, at least in my case
and Z1 still have that plastic anti shatter film on both sides, unlike Z2 which goes naked glass
you'll need a good tempered glass screen guard
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Not really worried about viewing angles Just seen a few people complain , As long as it looks good to my eye looking directly at it .
I have just Ordered a White Z1 Brand New
Should have it tommrow. I ordered the C6903
You should've gotten the Z2 imo. It's more updated and would more likely get future proofing.
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LeParkour012 said:
You should've gotten the Z2 imo. It's more updated and would more likely get future proofing.
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Coudnt really afford the extra costs sadly :/
LeParkour012 said:
You should've gotten the Z2 imo. It's more updated and would more likely get future proofing.
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Z2 has its own bugs... like mic is really bad and back glass is loose and lots of software bugs... ofc there is fixes coming but still... $50 more for what ? slightly better camera optimization and smart call handling ?
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hyelton said:
I ordered the C6903
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Nice, i have it too ! please post what you think of it after you get it
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Z2 has its own bugs... like mic is really bad and back glass is loose and lots of software bugs... ofc there is fixes coming but still... $50 more for what ? slightly better camera optimization and smart call handling ?
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I don't know. Maybe for the front facing speakers and the IPS display. Which is a big improvement imo because IPS display is just beautiful and since I like to watch movies a lot, the front facing speakers is what I prefer.
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LeParkour012 said:
I don't know. Maybe for the front facing speakers and the IPS display. Which is a big improvement imo because IPS display is just beautiful and since I like to watch movies a lot, the front facing speakers is what I prefer.
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Yup, but its not so big of a deal to me, like i said, maybe i got good panel but my Z1 screen is really good... aand the speakers are bit quieter but i dont mind since i dont use them much... smartwatch handles notifications and basicly only thing i need speakers when im with friend and its really enough for that... For me, Z1 does fine, Best phone ive touched !

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