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If anyone's looking for an extra cable or two, you can get them for $2.70/ea with free shipping from DealExtreme.com. I just got two in the mail today, and can confirm that they definitely have the same funky straight-side + sloped-side shape as HTC's own cables & fit the phone securely & snugly.
I can't really judge the wire quality (I'm not about to cut one open to examine it), but I'd say they appear to be about equal (or slightly higher) in quality than the cable that was bundled with the phone (same diameter cord, except the DX cord had strain relief & HTC's didn't).
Here's the URL (found by searching for "HTC USB" without quotes) -- http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.34016
bitbang3r said:
If anyone's looking for an extra cable or two, you can get them for $2.70/ea with free shipping from DealExtreme.com. I just got two in the mail today, and can confirm that they definitely have the same funky straight-side + sloped-side shape as HTC's own cables & fit the phone securely & snugly.
I can't really judge the wire quality (I'm not about to cut one open to examine it), but I'd say they appear to be about equal (or slightly higher) in quality than the cable that was bundled with the phone (same diameter cord, except the DX cord had strain relief & HTC's didn't).
Here's the URL (found by searching for "HTC USB" without quotes) -- http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.34016
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Pretty good deals on E-bay as well.....
I just use the billion and a half razor chargers and regular usb cables i have laying around. I dont even know where the one that came with my hero is
Nice timing,was just about to order some soon cause mine are fraying on the mini side plug,can't have a jacked up charger cord before I leave for basic training good looking
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Nice timing,was just about to order some soon cause mine are fraying on the mini side plug,good looking
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Yeah I've gone through a couple "stock" cables already.. The mini side has starts to come apart so I just swap out with my dad & brother when I see them.
Nooooooooooo! Do not, I repeat, DO NOT ever use dealxtreme! I ordered from them once, quite a bit of problems.1: It took 3 1/2 (Not kidding) months for it to arrive. 2: When the item did arrive, it was a cheap Chinese copy of the actual product, and didnt work. Guys, do yourselves a favour and order it from somewhere else. I wouldn't be suprised if thus guy is the owner of dealxtreme promoting his site.
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I just use the billion and a half razor chargers and regular usb cables i have laying around. I dont even know where the one that came with my hero is
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Same here, same cable that came with ps3, digital cameras and mini camcorders, and prolly a crap load if other things!
I have a ton of these lying around!
Lol I broke the cable to my Mogul I went to sprint store, and told them my update to 6.1 wasn't working (the truth) they said it could be the cable and handed me 2 factory packaged cables! For free.
The problem with the regular cables is that they fall out unless the phone is on an absolutely stable surface. Half the reason I went on my quest to find the right cables was a road trip last month when I tried to use the cable from my old PPC-6700 with the phone laying on the back seat of the car next to me. Every time the car went over a bump, the cable briefly disconnected and I had to re-tether.
Anyway, I'm just pointing out a decent source of something that's just about impossible to buy for a reasonable price at a local retail store in the US (at least, stores like Best Buy, Radio Shack, and CompUSA).
Monoprice.com
ftw!!!:d
Unless you're using the additional Audio I/O connections at the bottom of the connector, there's no real benefit to using an HTC type USB cable over a regular mini-USB cable. I use both without issue.
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Same here, same cable that came with ps3, digital cameras and mini camcorders, and prolly a crap load if other things!
I have a ton of these lying around!
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I actually use the cable from my PS3 because it was long enough to reach the plug and my night stand with a bit of slack.
78 cents on monoprice: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=3896&seq=1&format=2
I win.
hmm i wouldnt really trust it, but hey you never know if they're actually pretty good. but dude above said that it was horrible and ****ty so i'd have to believe him. i got really excited bout that site =|
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78 cents on monoprice: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=3896&seq=1&format=2
I win.
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+1 Monoprice is the only place to go for wires, they are nearly never beaten in price and their quality is great!
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+1 Monoprice is the only place to go for wires, they are nearly never beaten in price and their quality is great!
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http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...d=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=107&seq=1&format=2
one six footer for 2.71 shipped to Ohio
Additonals are .98 cents each ... High quality cables, amazing prices, good customer service, what else can you ask for?
For those that care (probably already know) but these are called extUSB cables. Not HTC USB cables (although they are only for, and created by, HTC)
I tried to use one of the cords I have laying around the house (since the cord that came with my Hero pulled apart where the cord goes into the Mini-ExtUSB tip) and it caused my phone to over heat and I tried another one and it worked fine so watch out and make sure that the cord you get is going to be the correct one
Just ordered one from dealxtreme. I'll let you guys know how it is once it comes in.
I've ordered from them before, I get little parts and wires that can't really go too wrong.
wait, so the cable is just a mini usb? we don't need to have one with the funky lil notch on it?
Lapdock+Wii == Gametrix
So I have a spare Nintendo Wii and a lapdock (hopefully pick some more up if there are still any at Radioshack) and I am going to disassemble the Wii, reconfigure it to fit on the back "panel" of the Lapdock, and get the needed cords to create a Gametrix[/]
My initial goal is to connect a Nintendo Wii to my Atrix Lapdock by... (with modifications)
1) a. Having the Lapdock’s Male Mini-HDMI plugged into a Female Mini-HDMI TO M / F Fullsized-HDMI converter. Thus allowing a direct HDMI connection from there.
This takes care of ½ of connections for both the Lapdock and the Wii.
2) a. Ideally I am looking to hook the Wii’s power supply directly to the Lapdock’s Male Micro-USB port, via a Female Micro-USB TO M / F Fullsized-USB. From there I’d need a USB to Female Wall Outlet (3 prong?) this would entail finding(unlikely...) / building one.
This takes care of power needs, (if it works) leaving only the unlikely usability of the Lapdocks built in keyboard and mouse / USB ports.
2) b. if number 2 section a (above) doesn’t work because of lack of volts traveling through the USB to the Wii, then I’d be left with connecting an external battery to the Wii and just taking advantage of the screen.
Hopefully if I have to result to section b then I’d at least be able to use the keyboard and mouse?
I will update with a Diagram of my plan “a” and “b” tomorrow after school.
Here are average power draw for the Wii. @17 Watts http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/02/next-gen_console_power_lg.jpg
And here for Gamecube. @23 Watts http://www.tpcdb.com/product.php?id=1615
Lapdock voltage output. ??? I think I'd have to replace the battery because it's only supposed to charge a phone/run an OS...
Lapdock insternal battery mAh ???
Please guys I know it's a lot but any input is great input
sounds fun. good luck dude.
Use a wii its better and supports a HDMI converter.
The gamecube already has a battery pack accessory and a screen accessory so its easy been done
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I have decided to go with the Wii, I am trying to find info on how many amps the Wii draws and if the Lapdock is capable of powering it...
I think I would try seeing how they both look on the screen before diving in much further, but it does sound like it could be a fun project.
Other thoughts:
how useful the project will be specifically to you? For many of us, due to the limited availability of the lapdocks, there's a limited number of people that will be able to try this themselves.
do you plan on strictly playing games, or are you going a bit further by using Linux on the device? I imagine there is a way you could use the keyboard as some type of input device, although you may have to create some translator device from a programmable Microcontroller.
is the screen big enough for enjoying using the device or is it more of a challenge than it's worth. The screen may be plenty big enough for a handheld device, but for something like using a Wii controller where you are at a distance from the screen, is it big enough?
Budget This is something we all overlook far to often. Something starts off small and simple, but before you know it, you end up spending way more than you had anticipated.
I have 2 Wii's and a Lapdock, so budget is covered.
I'm not going to use the motion bar, just gamecube games.
My main concern is if the Lapdock can power it.
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I have 2 Wii's and a Lapdock, so budget is covered.
I'm not going to use the motion bar, just gamecube games.
My main concern is if the Lapdock can power it.
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Power will probably be an issue through USB as USB does have a specification for max current of 500–900 mA (general); 5 A (charging devices). After that the port should shutdown to prevent burning out the controller.
Edit: I was looking at your figures above, did some digging, and I think you have a couple hurdles.
To start with, for power consumption, you want to look more at peak then you do at min and give yourself a bit of cushion, mainly because running at max power all the time will tax components. Second, and this is a big one, the Wii power pack apparently is 12V 3.7A (44.4W). USB is only 5 volts, and at 900mA you're peaking at 4.5W. However, if you could somehow manage to trick it into charge mode, you might be able to squeeze 25W. That's if it works like a standard USB port. If you can do that, you can step up the voltage with a charge pump, but I'm not quite sure how close to max that will put you due to efficiency losses. You may be able to go the other way and use the Wii to power the lapdock, or you may have to power them independently.
All that said, I think it's still important to just try to see what it looks like on the screen before digging in too far.
I plan on charging it through the Micro USB which you said supplies up to 23W+ Which is apparently plenty for the Wii. I'm going to order the necessary cords to attempt this, this weekend. So next week I'll know how much, if any, I have to modify to power it.....
I'll continue to research, and thanks for your help!
EDIT: screen size isn't an issue, as I'm have it right in from of me like a laptop, Playing Super Smash Bros Melee and the like.
BIG Message to everyone who's reading this. THIS IS MY FIRST HARDWARE MOD (as if that wasn't obvious?)
Anyways I'm gonna pick up a soldering iron as well, because I'm not finding a way to charge the Wii (assuming the Lapdock is capable...) There are no real ways to convert the micro usb to the 3 prong standard outlet that the Wii uses... So I may need to make my own? Will this work? http://www.sybausa.com/productInfo.php?iid=1274 Although I can't find where to buy it.
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BIG Message to everyone who's reading this. THIS IS MY FIRST HARDWARE MOD (as if that wasn't obvious?)
Anyways I'm gonna pick up a soldering iron as well, because I'm not finding a way to charge the Wii (assuming the Lapdock is capable...) There are no real ways to convert the micro usb to the 3 prong standard outlet that the Wii uses... So I may need to make my own? Will this work? http://www.sybausa.com/productInfo.php?iid=1274 Although I can't find where to buy it.
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You mean you want to convert 5V DC to 120V AC and then downconvert to 12V? Better to just go from 5V to 12V, but the reality is that it's much easier to go down than up. What does the lapdock itself have for a power supply?
Edit: Looks like the Wii has some type of USB keyboard support. Not sure if you want to try getting that to work, but it might come in handy.
I know but isn't the Wii's power cord a standard 120v 3 prong wall charger? I'd have to convert the 3 prong format to a Micro USB.
The lapdocks power supply is the battery if that's what you were asking...
Thanks for helping on my first project btw.
Check out about halfway down the page on this link if you want to see what the Wii looks like on the lapdock screen:
http://www.robpol86.com/index.php/Atrix_Lapdock_Other_Uses
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I know but isn't the Wii's power cord a standard 120v 3 prong wall charger? I'd have to convert the 3 prong format to a Micro USB.
The lapdocks power supply is the battery if that's what you were asking...
Thanks for helping on my first project btw.
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I'm glad to share my limited knowledge. Anyway, Really, I'm unsure if you can pull 25W out of the USB or not, but even if you could, you'd lose a good chunk of that in going from 5V to 125V AC, because at this point, a charge pump is no longer an option but instead you would need a power inverter, and since most of the commercially available ones are designed to go from 12V DC to 120V AC, you would likely end up building one yourself. The charge pump (buck–boost converter) is much easier to build, but I'm not sure about how much power you can get out of it.
Here's one I built from modifying a schematic I found online somewhere:
I hate to be the party pooper here, but I think no USB port will ever be able to deliver that much power. We're talking about several ampers here. Neither the USB port nor a great majority of USB cords are built to withstand that. Most USB hardware is designed to carry at most 1A. And then, even if you manage to get sufficient power flowing and power the contraption up, I wouldn't expect too much autonomy out of it since it is after all battery-powered. I would expect a lot of heat from the batteries too.
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I hate yo be the party pooper here, but I think no USB port will ever be able to deliver that much power. We're talking about several ampers here. Neither the USB port nor a great majority of USB cords are built to withstand that. Most USB hardware is designed to carry at most 1A. And then, even if you manage to get sufficient power flowing and power the contraption up, I wouldn't expect too much autonomy out of it since it is after all battery-powered. I would expect a lot of heat from the batteries too.
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Battery Charging Specification 1.2:[14] Released in December 2010.
Several changes and increasing limits including allowing 1.5A on charging ports for unconfigured devices, allowing High Speed communication while having a current up to 1.5A and allowing a maximum current of 5A.
But as I said, I don't know if you can get that much power out of this particular device. 20W @12V is 1.6A, but in order to power that from 5V, you would need at least 4 Amps, which puts it close to max, but not over it. The actual port connector is rated much higher than that.
Edit: I do have to agree on one point though, running on battery power will be pretty limiting, especially when you consider what the batteries were intended for in the first place.
So you're saying that there's basically no way to power the Wii with the Lapdock's setup? Ughhh I assumed this would be a major issue but decided I'd leave the verdict to those more knowledgeable than myself... So you're sure there's no way? Well anyways I hope at the very least to connect an external Battery (recommendations?) and hopefully get the Wii to recognize the trackpad and keyboard esp. for linux use... I'll keep researching and keep you guys posted.
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I hate yo be the party pooper here, but I think no USB port will ever be able to deliver that much power. We're talking about several ampers here. Neither the USB port nor a great majority of USB cords are built to withstand that. Most USB hardware is designed to carry at most 1A. And then, even if you manage to get sufficient power flowing and power the contraption up, I wouldn't expect too much autonomy out of it since it is after all battery-powered. I would expect a lot of heat from the batteries too.
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Battery Charging Specification 1.2:[14] Released in December 2010.
Several changes and increasing limits including allowing 1.5A on charging ports for unconfigured devices, allowing High Speed communication while having a current up to 1.5A and allowing a maximum current of 5A.
But as I said, I don't know if you can get that much power out of this particular device. 20W @12V is 1.6A, but in order to power that from 5V, you would need at least 4 Amps, which puts it close to max, but not over it. The actual port connector is rated much higher than that.
Edit: I do have to agree on one point though, running on battery power will be pretty limiting, especially when you consider what the batteries were intended for in the first place.
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Didn't read your reply Lehjr before posting mine, sorry about that. Anyways I'm still confused about whether or not the Lapdock is capable of powering the Wii? Anyways here is where I'm getting my very limited information on basic electronics. http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/energy/question501.htm I will keep studying though don't worry:laugh:
I'm going to post this on BenHeck Forums too for additional input. Again thank you guys.
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Battery Charging Specification 1.2:[14] Released in December 2010.
Several changes and increasing limits including allowing 1.5A on charging ports for unconfigured devices, allowing High Speed communication while having a current up to 1.5A and allowing a maximum current of 5A.
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Hm, interesting. I don't know, I'd say even if the USB hardware might be able to withhold such high currents, it's only for a short while, not for continuous use. I'm talking about all the USB hardware now, not just the plugs and cords.
Anyway, while 5A might indeed be the theoretical maximum, I have yet to see an USB device that actually delivers anywhere close to that. Even most commercial "high-speed" chargers deliver only up to about 2A.
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Hm, interesting. I don't know, I'd say even if the USB hardware might be able to withhold such high currents, it's only for a short while, not for continuous use. I'm talking about all the USB hardware now, not just the plugs and cords.
Anyway, while 5A might indeed be the theoretical maximum, I have yet to see an USB device that actually delivers anywhere close to that. Even most commercial "high-speed" chargers deliver only up to about 2A.
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Right, running that close to maximum is likely going to be short lived, and that's if it can be coaxed to go there in the first place. I'm not sure what the portability thing is about anyway. The Wii may be small, but it's heavy.
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So you're saying that there's basically no way to power the Wii with the Lapdock's setup? Ughhh I assumed this would be a major issue but decided I'd leave the verdict to those more knowledgeable than myself... So you're sure there's no way? Well anyways I hope at the very least to connect an external Battery (recommendations?) and hopefully get the Wii to recognize the trackpad and keyboard esp. for linux use... I'll keep researching and keep you guys posted.
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Didn't read your reply Lehjr before posting mine, sorry about that. Anyways I'm still confused about whether or not the Lapdock is capable of powering the Wii? Anyways here is where I'm getting my very limited information on basic electronics. http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/energy/question501.htm I will keep studying though don't worry:laugh:
I'm going to post this on BenHeck Forums too for additional input. Again thank you guys.
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Possibly capable, very slim chance, but doing so would be running very close to max the entire time the Wii is powered. You would also have to build a device to convert 5V to 12V, again, not impossible, but you do lose some power do to conversion inefficiencies. Is there any particular reason you want the device to be portable? IMHO, in order to run the Wii for any length of time, you would need a decent set of batteries. A few amps plugged in is one thing, on battery power that's something else. I could easily see you using something like a couple Power Wheels 6V batteries and a 12V charger or some similar setup, maybe some lithium cells if you're a big spender. Anything more than that and you're wheeling this thing around on a cart with a deep cycle marine/RV battery.
Haha a definitive answer would be welcomed as to whether it's theoretically capable or not, but if you can't provide that, I completely understand! Anyways It just needs to be temporarily portable, like 1 hour battery life is plenty. Thanks... Btw I can't actually thank you guys anymore as I'm out of thanks.
My dock has been charging my phone perfectly for weeks, the other day I came in and plopped the phone on the dock and nothing.
I checked the pogo pins (of the dock) with a multimeter, they are working. I've tried different power sources for the dock as well (wall adapter, pc, other cables).
I've checked to make sure the pins are making contact with the phone, good solid contact.
I haven't changed anything on the phone recently, any suggestions?
The phone charges fine through USB.
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since i apparently posted this on the apple forums instead of xda, all the replies were "shoulda bought apple products"
so anyone having this problem, i solved it by reinstalling a nand backup. apparently it was a software issue. hopefully this saves you from the apple fanboys.
do you have original sony cradle? i had chinese replica and it did not work all times.
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do you have original sony cradle? i had chinese replica and it did not work all times.
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No, I was too impatient for it and got the goosewhite dock, besides I like the looks of it better tbh. The dock is putting out power, I don't get why it's not charging. its not a complex system at all.
Get the Sony one if you don't want the same issue occurring.
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why would changing the dock have anything to do with the problem? when voltage is applied to the pogo pins, the phone does not charge. how would changing the dock i use make a difference in that at all?
i would understand if the pogo pins were putting out less power or no power, but they put in exactly the amount of power going into the dock, they make good solid contact, i've check continuity and its making a solid connection...
Then take the dock apart and see if anything got loose
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why would changing the dock have anything to do with the problem?
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Because the one you've bought is rubbish!
I brought this as an alternative to the Sony DK26 because I was sick of opening the flap everytime I wanted to charge my phone. It does fit the Xperia Z and looks nice enough. It also activates the dock mode and the Xperia's smart connect function. This is why I gave it 1 star. HOWEVER, it outputs at 500mA as opposed to the 1800mA delivered by the Sony dock. This means it charges your phone incredibly slowly. I had my phone on the dock charging for 11 Hours and it managed to deliver a battery charge of just 51% which is ridiculous compared to the Sony charger which delivers a 100% charge in 2 hours.
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Because the one you've bought is rubbish!
- Review
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I do not get why would anyone go for something cheaper and unreliable. Its like those iPhone users buying cheap non original cables to charge their iPhones, ended up causing the phone to blow up or messed up and blames it on Apple.
and yes you are the owner of the phone and you have the right to buy whatever 3rd party equipment for your phone, but dont expect it to work 100%.
Doesnt make sense if you ask me sir.
It is really hard to determine the main cause of this matter. It could be your phone: hardware or software (i doubt it is this one), or the 3rd party dock.
You tell me which one to throw and buy a new one.
Already told you why I bought it. There's nothing but stupidity in that review as docks do not put out power, they transfer it, the power supply puts out power. As for the amperage, it puts out what you put in. it will do [email protected] if you are stupid enough to put that through it... Assuming the wires don't burn. if you are going to base your assumptions on a review, at least choose one from someone knowledgeable. also, my dock never took 11 hours to charge, not that i ever bothered timing it but it sure as hell wasnt more than 4 hours (and thats giving an a good bit of a safety margin), i'd guess 2 hours 0-100 if i had to.
What I'm telling you is that the phone is not accepting the charge, not that the dock is messed up but the phone. And I wanted to know if anyone had similar issues or suggestions.
I'm glad you have insight on the matter and an opinion, however you are not trying to answer the question. I've already informed you the dock is intact and making a connection. I've checked the voltage of the xperia official charger at the cable at its end: 4v dc, the dock when hooked to that charger is 4v dc tested at the pins. I can put a larger amount through it, and any number of amps. A pogo dock is a very simple device, official or otherwise, the difference is mainly in price and design. The diy thread is a perfect example of that.
@LitoNi
I took it apart, nothing is loose. thanks
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I'm glad you have insight on the matter and an opinion, however you are not trying to answer the question.
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It's been answered, you've not bought an official product, that's the problem! Buy cheap unofficial batteries, expect issues, buy cheap replica SD Cards, expect issues, buy cheap unofficial chargers, expect issues, and looks like you can cheap docs to that list too.
XperienceD, please continue answering me with your infinite wisdom you learned from the internet. obviously you know everything about electronics.
btw fixed it, reinstalled my nand backup. software problem ftl.
didnt know this was an apple forum.
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XperienceD, please continue answering me with your infinite wisdom you learned from the internet. obviously you know everything about electronics.
btw fixed it, reinstalled my nand backup. software problem ftl.
didnt know this was an apple forum.
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Have same dock and same issue sometimes it doesn't want to charge but I just simply put it out and in and it works after reinserting.
[email protected]
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XperienceD, please continue answering me with your infinite wisdom you learned from the internet. obviously you know everything about electronics.
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I'm sharing what some of us have learned here, cheap non official products give issues, accept it or don't.
From me to you.
smart dock knockoff.....may be worth a shot because the samsung one is too dang expensive....this one also looks like it will accept cases unlike the stock one....i may have to give it a shot after payday http://www.ebay.com/itm/SMART-MULTI...ories_MobilePhoneChargers&hash=item5657f3c0a2
Since in US it will still going to cost more than $50, I will wait for some reviews before getting one. Good find for sure
the official dock does accept some cases.
I've had it working with the official flip cover, and with the official protective cover +.
I had seen this exact dock from a different seller on ebay a couple of days ago. I was about to buy it, but then I noticed that it said in the fine print that the mhl and otg connections can't be used at the same time. I'll see if I can find the link again. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume that the oem dock can do both simultaneously?
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Edit: this is the one I saw
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=151084606670
The note at the bottom says only one function (mhl or otg) at a time.
drezman said:
I had seen this exact dock from a different seller on ebay a couple of days ago. I was about to buy it, but then I noticed that it said in the fine print that the mhl and otg connections can't be used at the same time. I'll see if I can find the link again. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume that the oem dock can do both simultaneously?
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Edit: this is the one I saw
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=151084606670
The note at the bottom says only one function (mhl or otg) at a time.
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Good find..... Thanks!
dchtlh said:
smart dock knockoff.....may be worth a shot because the samsung one is too dang expensive....this one also looks like it will accept cases unlike the stock one....i may have to give it a shot after payday http://www.ebay.com/itm/SMART-MULTI...ories_MobilePhoneChargers&hash=item5657f3c0a2
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Very good in hdmi e 80 inch projector ... :laugh: :good:
I got one from Amazon for 2t bucks. Compared it to a real one . It's got all most the same circuitry.
The chips that process the otg and charge curent signal are a lot different. But mine works it will charge while I runmy powered usb hub with my external harddrive. In the one I have you only get one otg option at a time. Like you can do one sd card or one usb thing or the hdmi out but not all at the same time so your going to need a usb hub thats got it's own power supply.
And like all Chinese knock offs you never know witch of there military owned slave labour operated plants actually built it . so there's a good chance you wind up with a better one.or one that isn't as good. Or maybe even one that doesn't work at all. They're all in the same case so its hit or miss.
My cheap knock off doc failed as off last night its no longer recognized as a doc. It shows up only the hdmi and charger.you can always charge and use hdmi out. But otg mod reverse the usb port so you can't charge.
Someone know a gadget that allows both usages? HDMI + USB at same time?
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I got one from Amazon for 2t bucks. Compared it to a real one . It's got all most the same circuitry.
The chips that process the otg and charge curent signal are a lot different. But mine works it will charge while I runmy powered usb hub with my external harddrive. In the one I have you only get one otg option at a time. Like you can do one sd card or one usb thing or the hdmi out but not all at the same time so your going to need a usb hub thats got it's own power supply.
And like all Chinese knock offs you never know witch of there military owned slave labour operated plants actually built it . so there's a good chance you wind up with a better one.or one that isn't as good. Or maybe even one that doesn't work at all. They're all in the same case so its hit or miss.
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Newegg is carrying these now under the brand name "Baaqii".
It's $34 ($28 when on sale) but it also states, way down at the bottom, cannot do both OTG functions at same time.
joihan777 said:
Newegg is carrying these now under the brand name "Baaqii".
It's $34 ($28 when on sale) but it also states, way down at the bottom, cannot do both OTG functions at same time.
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I'm thinking That to get otg charging theres got to be a switch in the software someplace that lets you turn offotg mod and turn in back on really fast. Like pules on off on off on off constantly in the kernel. But I'm also thinking that there might not be a switch like that in our phones.
I'm thinking that the chips in a smart doc probably do that. So that leaves us not much choice. We either got to buy a doc. Find that switch or
Get a wireless charger.
I found a port of the famous faux kernel. I tried it with the 5 dollar add on app. It had no effect on otg charging a note 2.
I'm thinking the best cheap solution is one of the inductive charger sets. Or possibly putting a 555 timing circuit into a usd cable.
But a $35 1 amp wireless universal charge plat and coil would probably be the easiest way to go.
The S5 is a great looking phone, spec wise. Nothing is dramatically different over the S4, other than Waterproof, fingerprint and a couple other sensors. But everything is an upgrade in some way.
Except for ease of charging.
Yes, for those of us who like to get everything done with one click, one hand, one motion, one something.... the S5 has taken a step back in docking/charging capabilities.
While the USB 3.0 offers *faster* charging to some degree, we are now obstructed from ease of use by the very thing that makes this phone *really special* and unique. Waterproofing. Yep, those dang "doors" that seal up the USB port have added "one more" step. This time, one more step in the form of attaching a USB cable or docking our phones. I myself paid $75 for a killer dock that gave me one-handed, one motion docking that offers charging. I just plop my S4 phone down and it's secured and charging right away (Craigsdocks Dock).
Most of you probably don't care about this "one extra step". So those are the folks who will step into this thread and participate the most, because they don't care and think it's stupid that other people care. lol
But for you "one step" people out there like myself, who are avidly into Tasker automation, modifying the Quick Settings panel and want the fastest launcher with coolest widgets possible.... YOU will understand what I'm talking about when I say the S6 *NEEDS* to have Magnetic Docking Pins.
And I cannot believe Samsung has not only locked the bootloader on us USA citizens, but they have also not given this phone some semblance of ease of use when it comes to Car Docks and other types of docks, for everyone in the entire world.
Ugh, shame on you, Samsung. Your lack of foresight is amazing. Because we all know the S6 will have Magnetic Docking Pins and thus, every single one of us will pay to upgrade our phones once again, next year.
Oh, you might ask why Magnetic Pin charging is better than wireless charging?
Well that's because it charges twice as fast. Which is very important when your screen is set to 100% brightness, Pandora is streaming over Bluetooth and GPS is wildly trying to re-route me every few seconds. All while I'm on a 25% charge and have no plans to be anywhere near a charger for the next 24 hours after I get out of my car.
I only use the USB 3.0 port when I really need to charge my phone very fast. Otherwise, I always use wireless charging.
Maybe the phone isn't for you..... The beauty of Android is that you can get whatever manufacturer you like to sort your hardware needs.
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it will be the US carriers that have requested the phone is locked, not samsungs fault as is usually the case. You get a RAW deal over there compared to Europe.
The Project said:
This would GREATLY increase manufacturing costs.
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Hey, Sony has done it with the Xperia lineup and other MFG's have all fit it into production costs without any problems.
"Greatly" = what, $0.37 in materials? lmao
And here they all come, just as I predicted. lol
AMoosa said:
Maybe the phone isn't for you..... The beauty of Android is that you can get whatever manufacturer you like to sort your hardware needs.
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Umm, you think?!
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AMoosa makes a great point. If you don't like it get a different phone or create your own.
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Yeah, another intelligent post. :good:
although the flap annoys me, the huge USB cable with 2 prongs annoys me more
I'm just using my old S4 charger, which works nearly just as fast and i dont have to fuss around with it as much
does the usb flap fold around flat ?? not sure i understand what happens to it in a dock.
thanks
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does the usb flap fold around flat ?? not sure i understand what happens to it in a dock.
thanks
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Good observation. It will definitely interfere with docks
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Acaibowl said:
I only use the USB 3.0 port when I really need to charge my phone very fast. Otherwise, I always use wireless charging.
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Hi How much time its taking to fully charge with USB 3.0
sandeep20064096 said:
Hi How much time its taking to fully charge with USB 3.0
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Gull charge from 5 percent full in a hour
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