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[Q] can you install clockworkmod after updating to 2.3.4?

i had a nexus one and was able to unlock the bootloader but i think i updated it to 2.3.4 and then tried to install CWM, which didn't work. i then discovered the antenna was not working correctly so i had to exchange the phone for another new one. once i get my new nexus one i was still thinking about installing CM7 and i just want to get some things straight about 2.3.4 and installing clockworkmod recovery.
will i be able to install CWM after i update my nexus one to stock 2.3.4? if not what is the highest stock build i would be able to do it with?
concerning the radio, if it is not possible to update to 2.3.4 and then install CWM i guess i'd have to update the radio by itself right?

You can unlock the bootloader and install cwm, or you can revert to an earlier version of Android, root, and then install cwm...

so i guess it's not possible to root and install CWM on 2.3.4? what's the latest version of android i would have to revert to for rooting and installing CWM?

There is no exploit for 2.3.4, so there is no easy root...
To downgrade, you have to do the passimg with a shipped image, and the most recent is FRG33. However, once rooted you can update all the way to 2.3.4 and keep root, if you do things in the right order...
You could also update to 2.3.3 and root and update to 2.3.4 keeping root - but the end result is the same...

You can also root 2.3.4 after unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom recovery. From there, you would need to flash one of the su.zip files floating around (you may need a specific one for Gingerbread), which should remove the stock recovery checks (what replaces the custom recovery when you boot a stock install) and should add the necessary files for root access.

the first nexus one i received was on 2.2.1 so i guess if i plan on installing CM7 i should just keep in there and not bother upgrading anything (maybe the radio only)? just want to make sure where i stand so someone could help me accomplish these things. i know how to unlock the bootloader and i think i'll be fine installing CWM so what order should i:
unlock the bootloader
upgrade the radio (i guess i don't have to do this if i upgrade to 2.3.4)
install CWM
root
upgrade to 2.3.4
install CM7
i'm just making sure i know what i'm doing before i get my replacement nexus one and while i have attempted searching for answers i haven't been able to find the specific order or answer to my question. if anyone can correct any mistakes or assumptions i've been making please let me know.

If you are unlocking the bootloader, there is no need to root the current android install. The whole point of rooting the phone is so you can get the custom recovery on there so you can load CM on the phone. Since you are unlocking the bootloader, you can load the custom recovery using fastboot, then boot into it, wipe the phone and flash CM (and gapps).
And if it is a replacement, it will most likely be running the 5.08 radio, which seems to be the best one for Gingerbread.
So it would be:
Unlock bootloader
flash clockworkmod
boot clockworkmod (select the bootloader screen and then recovery, don't reboot)
wipe phone
flash CM and gapps
reboot
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DarkKnight62 said:
unlock the bootloader
upgrade the radio (i guess i don't have to do this if i upgrade to 2.3.4)
install CWM
root
upgrade to 2.3.4
install CM7
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You don't need to upgrade to 2.3.4 unless you want to upgrade the radio and hboot. Of course, you can upgrade them without updating the OS, though upgrading them with OS will be safer.

ok, now that i know that installing CM7 will root my phone if i do it by unlocking the bootloader and installing CWM i am wondering if my phone will be rooted once i restore my nandroid backup that i will make (of stock 2.3.4 android) right before i install CM7?

No. Root is separate from unlocking your bootloader and whatever recovery you are running. Root is at the OS level. Most custom firmwares come pre-rooted. That is, they contain the software needed to allow you to escalate your priveledges to root level. Stock firmwares, do not have this additional software, and anytime you get an update for stock, it will replace everything you had with your previous install, which will make you lose root if you had it.
So, if you install CM7, it will be rooted, but if you restore your stock 2.3.4, it will become unrooted (because it was unrooted when you made the backup).
What is your final plan for software on the phone? Stock 2.3.4, stock 2.3.4 with root, CM7? What is the point of restoring your nandroid of 2.3.4?

[Q] OTA updates and root

So,
My HTC Incredible S is rooted, and the bootloader is unlocked (what the point of unlocking the bootloader is I still don't know as I can't install custom ROMS... but back to the point at hand...), and the OTA update to 2.3.5 arrived 2 weeks ago.
Needless to say, the update would not install. Despite researching the issue, I'm still confused as to what exactly is preventing the update from working. Is the the fact that my device is rooted? Or is it the unlocked bootloader? I tried relocking the bootloader and that had no effect, so I'm assuming rooted devices for some reason are rejected by the update.
So considering I can't install custom ROMs (I'm HBOOT 1.16 and the downgrade guide didn't work for me, so no s-off), and I now can't upgrade officially, I'm feeling a little stuck.
Is there a way to force an official update to install on a phone in my 'condition'?
Note: My recovery is custom - Revolutionary CWM - and I can't find (and therefore cannot flash) an original recovery image... would this affect the updating process?
Thanks guys/gals,
G

Root won't stop an ota but an unlocked bootloader will. You can check in your boot screen if its still unlocked or if its relocked.

nope_okay said:
So,
My HTC Incredible S is rooted, and the bootloader is unlocked (what the point of unlocking the bootloader is I still don't know as I can't install custom ROMS... but back to the point at hand...), and the OTA update to 2.3.5 arrived 2 weeks ago.
Needless to say, the update would not install. Despite researching the issue, I'm still confused as to what exactly is preventing the update from working. Is the the fact that my device is rooted? Or is it the unlocked bootloader? I tried relocking the bootloader and that had no effect, so I'm assuming rooted devices for some reason are rejected by the update.
So considering I can't install custom ROMs (I'm HBOOT 1.16 and the downgrade guide didn't work for me, so no s-off), and I now can't upgrade officially, I'm feeling a little stuck.
Is there a way to force an official update to install on a phone in my 'condition'?
Note: My recovery is custom - Revolutionary CWM - and I can't find (and therefore cannot flash) an original recovery image... would this affect the updating process?
Thanks guys/gals,
G
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You need to replace CWM with the standard HTC recovery (you simply need to extract the recovery.img file from a RUU/ROM.zip file) and then relock the bootloader before the OTA will install correctly.

At hboot 1.16 and rooted all you should have to do is install Cwm and than you can flash custom ROM's..... Not sure what your problem is.
Sent from my anus using xda crap

@itsbeertimenow - yeah, unlocking the bootloader never did anything for me in terms of being able to flash custom ROMs... I guess 's-off' is required
@tpbklake, nonverbose
Yeah, I had a feeling the custom recovery had something to do with it. As I mentioned before, even relocking the bootloader had no effect.
Does the recovery have to be a specific version? I'm running Android 2.3.3, so will any 2.3.3 recovery work or does it have to be a recovery for an HTC Incredible S running Android 2.3.3 - that's a little harder to find. Any suggestions for an ruu/zip file to extract a recovery img from?
Thanks again for the helpful responses.
G

nope_okay said:
@itsbeertimenow - yeah, unlocking the bootloader never did anything for me in terms of being able to flash custom ROMs... I guess 's-off' is required
@tpbklake, nonverbose
Yeah, I had a feeling the custom recovery had something to do with it. As I mentioned before, even relocking the bootloader had no effect.
Does the recovery have to be a specific version? I'm running Android 2.3.3, so will any 2.3.3 recovery work or does it have to be a recovery for an HTC Incredible S running Android 2.3.3 - that's a little harder to find. Any suggestions for an ruu/zip file to extract a recovery img from?
Thanks again for the helpful responses.
G
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Instead of trying to install the OTA update for Sense 3/2.3.5 why don't you flash the stock, rooted version of 2.3.5/Sense 3 ROM that I posted in the Dev section. With the unlocked bootloader and CWM you can flash this ROM and then manually flash the boot.img in that ROM's zip file and you should be good to go.

@tpbklake
I think I'd already tried that and the update process aborted pretty early on. I'll give it another go and check out troubleshooting threads related to the process. thanks again.
G
Update: I'm following the instructions as per this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105
Update 2: It worked and I managed to install CM7... happy day Thanks guys

nope_okay said:
@tpbklake
I think I'd already tried that and the update process aborted pretty early on. I'll give it another go and check out troubleshooting threads related to the process. thanks again.
G
Update: I'm following the instructions as per this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105
Update 2: It worked and I managed to install CM7... happy day Thanks guys
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Here is the 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 stock, rooted ROM built directly from the OTA you were trying to install. You would flash it in CWM just like you did for CM7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430535

Thanks for the link, will come in handy when I want to go back to a 'stock' setup... wasn't very impressed with CM7 so I then tried the Virtuous Affinity ROM (2.3.5/S3.5) - fantastic. Thanks again for your help!
G

How to ROOT Stock ICS

Just got the Bell ICS 4.0.3 OTA and been trying to root for the last hour finally got it and want to share with others. None of the tricks available worked and i tried them all. They all installed superuser but could not update binaries.
I'm not going to bore you on unlocking boot loader etc. or how to get ICS. You can find that here and here.
Once you have ICS and have unlocked your bootloader use "HTC Vivid All-In-One Toolkit V2.1" to flash WCX's Recovery. One you have that boot into recovery and install "Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip", reboot and you now have root. Your might want to get SuperSU from the PlayStore which i think is a better root tool and goes with the ICS theme
Source

Couldn't you just install a rooted rom and be rooted?

bilibox said:
Couldn't you just install a rooted rom and be rooted?
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Yeah of course but if you want to stay with the stock rom (like me with bell for wifi tether) this procedure is better.

Yeah i'm to lazy to S-Off and find a ROM that works. I really just need CMW and root. I freeze all the bloat anyways so this is much better.
I don't think the Raider will see Jelly Bean and if/when maybe i will need to do the "wire trick" but for now stock rooted is fine.

[Q] 4.2.2 Jelly Bean OTA Update after rooting possible?/consequences?

Hi,
So I just got my first smartphone ever yesterday and been pretty much tinkering with it the whole day long (I'm very slow/newbie with these things).
I unlocked the bootloader, got a recovery image TWRP and then rooted it with SuperSU.
Since then I've made a titanium backup and nanodroid backup through TWRP of everything.
And I've been checking out a few custom roms for Jelly Bean 4.2.2 the newest version I believe? And Android Revolution HD 11.0
seemed really nice: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023
But I found out that the OTA update Jelly Bean 4.2.2 for HTC One is coming out Really Really soon and I'm currently running 4.1.2. Is it possible for me to receive & install that update without any problems since I haven't flashed any custom roms?
Or will I need to unroot my phone, relock my bootloader and change my recovery image to the stock image? (And if so where can I get the stock image of HTC One?)
I've been on these forums like the whole day and it's very interesting and informative, but it's SO INCREDIBLY MUCH to take in. So I'm really sorry if these questions have been answered before. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
So far I love my phone though! superfast and supersmooth haha.

Well, I think you're one of the few people here who can read AND comprehend what's going on.
ARHD 11.5 is based on the official Taiwan release of Android 4.2.2; 2.24.709.1.
Decide whether you want official ROM release, which, as you meantioned, requires stock ROM and stock recovery to be able to receive and apply the OTA, or, custom ROMs, in which case, just flash the latest ARHD.

yes, inorder to get the OTA installed, need Stock recovery and stock rom.....

Thanks Guys!
Just one more question.
My current firmware is 1.29.707.16.
And the latest ARHD is based on 2.24.401.1.
Would there be any issues if I flashed it? Or is it recommended that I flash that firmware before flashing the rom?
Or do I need another firmware entirely (2.24.709.1), since I'm using the asian/taiwan firmware and not the european one.
My phone has S-off and SuperCID, if that makes any difference in the matter.
Once again thanks for all your help!

Preparing for Lollipop! Please read before upgrading.

Hello Developers!
Here I will put forth instructions required for successful upgrade to lollipop. (These instruction are based on my own experience. I have been using Sony Xperia and Nexus phone for quite a while and I have flashed lot of roms. I may not have much experience in developing but definitely lot of experience in flashing! )
So, motorola has officially put up release notes here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/102639
So the questions that are bugging most people are:
1. When will the OTA be available in particular country?
2. Will I be able to smoothly able to upgrade and gain root access on Android L?
For first question: I really can't help you there. It depends on motorola. Android upgrades are rolled out region by region. So OTA will hit your phone when it is available in your region.
Second question:
To answer that, let us first consider few things.
New bootloader:
The very first note on release notes put out by Motorla says that: You cannot downgrade to a previous software version after installing this update. It means that new bootloader has been included in the update which does not allow downgrading.
ART runtime:
Android L uses new Android Runtime (ART). Some applications have not yet been optimized for ART and have problems with ART. To make sure the apps which you require daily work fine with ART, read the changlog given by its developer. If it has not yet been optimized then request the developer to optimize it for ART. If I am not wrong tools to develop apps using ART were released when Google released L preview. So you can expect many apps have been already optimized for ART.
When will the upgrade fail and when will it won't?
1. Locked/Unlocked bootloader:
If you have locked/unlocked bootloader but HAVE NOT CUSTOMIZED or HAVE NOT MESSED WITH RECOVERY AND KERNEL partition then don't worry. OTA upgrade will definitely hit your phone and you will be able to smoothly upgrade to L.
2. Modified kernel/recovery partition and root:
If you have rooted your moto g then it means you unlocked your bootloader, flashed a custom recovery and flashed the superuser binary. In this case you won't be able to upgrade to android L. According to few article I have read, you have to be completely stock before update. Completely as in you shold have never rooted your phone or flashed a custom kernel. Even if you have unrooted after rooting or flashed a stock kernel/recovery after flashing custom kernel/recovery is NOT allowed for Android L upgrade.
3. Unstable internet connection while downloading OTA.
Unstable connection might corrupt the OTA upgrade file. Make sure you have stable internet connection while downloading OTA.
Considering all these there you are in one of the following scenarios:
1. Locked/unlocked bootloader with no customizations to any partitions:
Don't worry. You won't face any problems with OTA upgrade. Just make sure all your apps work fine on ART.
2. Unlocked bootloader with stock/custom rom and sotck/custom kernel with root or unrooted after root:
You will need to flash official kitkat firmware. Official firmware images for Moto G 2014 are located here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=36
Then you can upgrade via OTA.
3. Unlocked bootlaoder, root but do not want to lose root priviliges:
Then you will need to wait till developers modify new custom roms based on android L. Then you can flash those by following their instructions. To root stock android L build, a custom kernel is required and also according to chainfire the system.img will be need to be patched. So it is not possible to root sotck android L unless motorola release kernel sources and some developer pathces the system.img.
I have no experience in handling/using/modifying carrier locked phones. So I cannot help you with those.
I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND NOT TO FLASH STOCK/CUSTOM LOLLIPOP ROM OF DIFFERENT MOTO G VARIANT.
Enjoy and happy flashing!

Nice info, thanks!

Also: you need 850 MB of available space or the OTA update will refuse to download.

Thanks man!
It the only thing you did is unlock boot loader and no more... And do the ota update, might boot loader stay unlocked?

El_Froz said:
Thanks man!
It the only thing you did is unlock boot loader and no more... And do the ota update, might boot loader stay unlocked?
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Yes it will stay unlocked.

Any disadvantage in unlocking boot loader other than voiding the warranty? We will still get future OTA updates?
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Trekker56 said:
Any disadvantage in unlocking boot loader other than voiding the warranty? We will still get future OTA updates?
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Yes. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.

AD9295 said:
Yes. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.
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I know about the warranty.
What about future OTA updates?

Trekker56 said:
I know about the warranty.
What about future OTA updates?
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I said "YES"! You will get the future OTA updates. Make sure that you don't mess with the partitions in any way. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.

AD9295 said:
I said "YES"! You will get the future OTA updates. Make sure that you don't mess with the partitions in any way. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.
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Thanks. Good to know.

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axl409 said:
Hey, this seems the right thread to ask.
I'm not so hyped about lollipop (doesn't see all these big changes), but sooner or later I will upgrade of course.
My plan on upgrade is when some custom rom with lollipop will come out.
So my questions are:
-will I be able to flash a lollipop rom from my rooted Moto g with philz recovery and stock/custom kernel?
-do I have to upgrade (somehow) the bootloader or the recovery? And if I have, do I need to return to stock KitKat and then upgrade to official lollipop and then unlock bootloader again and flash recovery again?
Thanks for your answers!
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Well waiting for lollipop custom rom is actually the best solution yet!
You need following things to upgrade to lollipop:
New bootloader
Recovery compatible with that bootloader
Kernel comatible with lollipop rom which you want to flash
New baseband (radio)
And system and data partition image
When a developer creates a flashable zip, it generally includes:
System and data partition image
Kernel
So before flashing that lollipop rom. You just need to flash
New bootloader
Recovery
Baseband(radio)
Then from recovery you can flash the zip file.
Your bootloader needs to be unlocked to do all this.
Only problem is, it takes time for motorola to release factory images like google releases for nexus phones.
So you will need to wait till some developer captures OTA, extract all the partition images and share it online. (Make sure the uploaded partition images are of the same moto g variant which you have)

axl409 said:
Hey, this seems the right thread to ask.
I'm not so hyped about lollipop (doesn't see all these big changes), but sooner or later I will upgrade of course.
My plan on upgrade is when some custom rom with lollipop will come out.
So my questions are:
-will I be able to flash a lollipop rom from my rooted Moto g with philz recovery and stock/custom kernel?
-do I have to upgrade (somehow) the bootloader or the recovery? And if I have, do I need to return to stock KitKat and then upgrade to official lollipop and then unlock bootloader again and flash recovery again?
Thanks for your answers!
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Actually it is easier to flash official kitkat images and update to lollipop with ota update. Then you can flash any custom lollipop rom just by following rom developer's instruction. It will be easier.

Thanks for this thread Bro.

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axl409 said:
Thanks a lot @AD9295!
So, I was searching around for returning stock, because you said in the end I'll have to and also because I want to be prepared in time!
I found the thread "restore to stock" and in the end, there's written this at q18 (I made a screenshot).
It's good to do this even if I have philz recovery? Will I get the update or I need to flash also the stock recovery? I know there's written, but it's cool? Or maybe something could go wrong?
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If you are using rooted custom rom:
Flash the complete official kitkat image. images are located here:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=36
If you are just using rooted stock rom then follow the instruction in response to that q18. You do need to flash stock recovery as mentioned there. That's what is meant by returning to "stock".

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axl409 said:
No I'm just rooted, and of course have installed some apps that need root.
So in order to restore stock I should:
- uninstall the root apps
- do the q18 (but where I found the stock recovery image?)
- waiting for the ota lollipop upgrade that will update all (bootloader, recovery, radio, system and data).
Am I correct?
And then from lollipop do again root and install future lollipop compatible recovery.
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Yes you are correct. the zip files located here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=36 contain all the official .img files. You can download it from there (I understand file size is large but it's worth downloading coz you will always be able to return to stock even if you mess up your phone pretty badly ) or you can ask on forum

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AD9295 said:
I said "YES"! You will get the future OTA updates. Make sure that you don't mess with the partitions in any way. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.
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What benefit gives just unlocking and not rooting?