Two Questions re: my HD+2.1)
1. If I want to keep all of my books both from BN and sideloaded from Calbre in one file only, what is the preferred location for internal and for sdcard. I have plent of space in both but want to eliminate multiple book listings.
2. Not having sideloaded an app in quite some time, I have forgotten how/where and wish to do so with the Nook app instead of using the embedded Nook version. Would appreciate any help with where to d/l the app from and where to load and install. Will not d/l from Playstore due to embedded Nook.
Thanks in advance for any help.
You cannot run the Nook for Android app on stock, if that is what you were wanting.
The stock location for B&N books is /data/nookmedia, which is only accessible to you if you are rooted.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
I am actually leaning towards going with your emmc/10.1 (which has always been my aim since getting my HD+) and viewed the 2.1 update as a temporary path until your efforts produced stable fruit. For someone who is not a "power user", could I go ahead and make that leap for reasonably stable day to day operations?
Thanks for all of your ongoing efforts!
First off, it is verygreen's CM10.1, not mine. But that aside, that is what I am running now and it is rock solid. There are a few minor bugs that users complain about, but I have zero issues.
I recommend you go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread, make a bootable CWM SD, make a nandroid backup of stock, flash verygreen's CM10.1 for emmc, flash gapps, wipe data and never look back.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
Will do and many thanks to the both of you for your efforts.
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As an original Nook Color owner from its first day availability, I am now ready to make the leap to the HD+. My primary reason for this is the 8.9 inch screen which emulates "trade paperback" size which has always been my reading goal along with enhanced video.
I have put my NC through numerous iterations over the last two years plus and finally did a full conversion to Android 4.1 a few months ago bidding a permanent farewell to any remaining vestige of the BN software. As the final remaining issue for me was "reading in store" which I no longer need, it was not a difficult decision.
In perusing this forum, I appear to have run afoul of trying to determine if there is a currently viable track for complete conversion of the HD+ eMMc as I simply do not need or want the BN interface. I know full well there are rooted, sdcard, and "hybrid" variations well explained in this forum but simply cannot find or continue to overlook any mention/instruction for full internal conversion as an option.
Am I simply overlooking that info or are we not yet there? If that goal has not yet been obtained, what would be my closest non sdcard option?
I have nothing but accolades and praise for those providing us with the fruits of their efforts. My multiple and varied experiences with my NC provided a truly fascinating experinece and learning curve starting with basic rooting up through several dual boot variations and now in eMMc Jelly Bean and all of its remarkably functional glory! It is clearly continuing with the HD and the "+" and I wish to express my deepest thanks for those continuing efforts in advance.
Any reasoned advice, suggestions, and/or direction would be appreciated.
As yet there is no full replacement of the emmc. The boot loader lock that even checks system makes it very hard.
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Verygreenhas said he believes it is possible but not on his priority list, see his CM10 thread. We don't have many developers working it yet. And being CM working properly, kernels, etc are priorities now.
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I too came from the Nook Color and have enjoyed the versatility of that device. Unfortunately B&N has locked down this device to make it more difficult to modify it. Your only two choices now is to modify stock with my CWM zips or opt for running CM10/CM10.1 from SD. You can get my CWM zips from my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature.
Sent from my HD+ running CM10 on SD with XDA Premium
Get the HD+ and put cm10 via sdcard on it. If you use the right sdcsard (class 4? someone will correct me if I'm wrong) and dont look back. I came from the nook color 10.1 emmc myself. I know how soul crushing it was on there. Lag, reboots, lag, poor display, lag. Did I mention lag? I'd like an emmc too, but seriously you won't notice any difference. Its an amazing tablet with cm10 on it.
Sent from my Barnes & Noble Nook HD+ using Tapatalk HD
I have also had the Nook Color and the Nook Tablet.. the Nook HD/HD+ are awesome. I have always choose to ditch the stock B&N expereince. Currently booting CM10.1 from mircoSD on my NookHD, thanks to some awesome work by others, and its honestly great! maybe a few tiny little lags every now and then, but nothing close to a deal breaker. And its still early... so it can only get better from here. Going HD or HD+, you won't be dissapointed.
Actually this is strange that we dont have still bootloader lock hack. All tech things that i seen on xda forum are ulocked. And now some BN can lock it
I want help but i dont have knowledge for this stage. And with other words i need it too (run custom rom from emmc)..
datas0ft said:
Actually this is strange that we dont have still bootloader lock hack. All tech things that i seen on xda forum are ulocked. And now some BN can lock it
I want help but i dont have knowledge for this stage. And with other words i need it too (run custom rom from emmc)..
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Verygreen says he thinks it can eventually be done, but his priority is perfecting CM on SD. He says no real need to run it internally when running on SD works so well.
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Thanks and Update
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Verygreen says he thinks it can eventually be done, but his priority is perfecting CM on SD. He says no real need to run it internally when running on SD works so well.
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Thanks to all for your comments, updates, and suggestions. I opted to take the "easy way out" this time around and d/l n2a's $19.99 version for the HD+ and installed it on a 32 GB card. Oddly enough, could not get it to run on a new Sandisk Class 10 but it ran on an older class 4 or 6 card that I had used for converted film storage with my NC. Any idea why that happened?
BTW, when formatting a card for the HD+ should we use FAT32 or NTSC?
It is great to have a full JB interface back!
Not at all enamored of the current BN interface which I hope now to leave alone and eventually replace when full eMMc access is achieved. If JB could be made "ready for prime time" on the NC, then I am sure that it is just a matter of time until one of you has a full blown "Eureka" moment and shows the way to a full and total conversion of the HD+.
Will keep you all up-to-date regarding my experiences with the N2A setup.
Rooted Galaxy Nexus Android 4.2.1
Nook Color Android 4.1.2
Nook HD+ N2A SD Card Android 4.1.2
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BTW, when formatting a card for the HD+ should we use FAT32 or NTSC?
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You must to look to this thread. There you find all what you need and step by step.
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Verygreen says he thinks it can eventually be done, but his priority is perfecting CM on SD. He says no real need to run it internally when running on SD works so well.
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Actually i need run it internally because i have 12 Nook HD+ and clients who use these just may pull out SD (maybe steal SD too). All restrictions which one i made on ROm for user side is not working anymore.
Seems i need directly constact with Verygreen.
Thanks about sharing information.
datas0ft said:
You must to look to this thread. There you find all what you need and step by step.
Not sure what the above direction has to do with which format (FAT32/NTSC) is best for SDcard use in the HD+ for either simple storage or alternate OS.
Did I miss something or was I unclear?
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This quote at this thread is about SD card formating:
For first time install only (you will need 4G or bigger sdcard, smaller ones are not supported and not tested):
gunzip cwm image and write it to your sdcard (entire sdcard not just one partition of it), use either dd on Linux/MacOS or Win32 Image Writer for those impaired by Windows.
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And when you follow this guide step by step, you dont need worry about formating your SD to wrong format.
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Oddly enough, could not get it to run on a new Sandisk Class 10 but it ran on an older class 4 or 6 card that I had used for converted film storage with my NC. Any idea why that happened?
BTW, when formatting a card for the HD+ should we use FAT32 or NTSC?
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Not all cards are created equal. The recommended card for running a ROM is SanDisk class 4. Others may or may not work well.
And it does not matter what format you had on the card originally before you burned the image to the card. It gets overwritten.
But for using an SD with stock, the card should be formatted Fat32 or ExFat. NTSC does not work.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
Aha!
datas0ft said:
This quote at this thread is about SD card formating:
And when you follow this guide step by step, you dont need worry about formating your SD to wrong format.
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Aha! Now I understand!!
leapinlar said:
Not all cards are created equal. The recommended card for running a ROM is SanDisk class 4. Others may or may not work well.
And it does not matter what format you had on the card originally before you burned the image to the card. It gets overwritten.
But for using an SD with stock, the card should be formatted Fat32 or ExFat. NTSC does not work.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
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Many thanks for that clear explanation.
BTW, the N2A card (so far) is working well.
Hi All,
I have a Nook HD, recently purchased and then updated to BN 2.0.6 firmware during the BN registration process. I used the sdcard-cwm-early5.img.gz as referenced in Verygreen's post here to create a bootable CWM SD. I then installed the CM 10.1 build posted in thread by Bokbokban here. Finally, I installed latest gapps from goo.im. All seems to be pretty good, excepting that sometimes, seemingly randomly, the device will reboot itself, at which time it bypasses the SD during boot and goes straight for the stock BN rom on the emmc.
Any ideas on how to proceed? I haven't seen a pattern in the reboots yet, so I am not sure what may or may not be causing them. While I'm not exactly a newb with all that is involved with rooting/flashing various android devices (I own 5 of them), I could use some guidance on how to troubleshoot or diagnose problems like this.
I am confused. You used an HD+ image from verygreen and an HD ROM from bokbokan. How did you make that work? They should not have worked.
But if you really only used HD files, the reboot problem is probably the brand and class of the SD you used. It needs to be SanDisk class 4. We have that problem a lot on the HD+. It is cause by a kernel panic when trying to write to SD.
The solution is to get a better SD or use bokbokan's new Hybrid SD setup that puts /data on internal memory so SD speed does not matter.
Sent from my Nook HD running CM10.1 on Hybrid SD
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I am confused. You used an HD+ image from verygreen and an HD ROM from bokbokan. How did you make that work? They should not have worked.
But if you really only used HD files, the reboot problem is probably the brand and class of the SD you used. It needs to be SanDisk class 4. We have that problem a lot on the HD+. It is cause by a kernel panic when trying to write to SD.
The solution is to get a better SD or use bokbokan's new Hybrid SD setup that puts /data on internal memory so SD speed does not matter.
Sent from my Nook HD running CM10.1 on Hybrid SD
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Thanks for your prompt reply. To be clearer, I did not use the HD+ image, but I did use the CWM image Verygreen posted, 'sdcard-cwm-early5.img.gz', as that version supported using CWM to read .zip's from /emmc (in other words, those that were downloaded via BN stock browser).
At the risk of sounding like I am second-guessing you, I think it's worth noting that I had no trouble with many things related to writing to the SD card: writing the CWM image, booting into CWM from the SD, writing the CM10.1 image onto the card, booting from the 10.1 rom, etc... So if it is, as you say, the card having write issues and causing a kernel panic, I'm wondering how I can prove that. I will check the kernel logs when I get home.
I'm using a Sandisk 'ultra' class 10 16gb... I get that 'class 10' generally means 'crappy for small random write requests', but I've had good luck with this particular card on other platforms that are sensitive to consistency of write speeds (G2, Nook Color). However, I'll try a class-4 Sandisk per your suggestion.
Follow-up question: I can't seem to find a solid guide that shows how to install to emmc... is that a new frontier for this device? Is it just that nobody has bothered, or is there a problem with original bootloader supporting that?
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Follow-up question: I can't seem to find a solid guide that shows how to install to emmc... is that a new frontier for this device? Is it just that nobody has bothered, or is there a problem with original bootloader supporting that?
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The internal bootloader is locked down pretty good. Some day someone will be able to break it, but for now no one has.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
Btw, I have had really bad results with my San disk CL 10. You may find other cars will work better.
Sent from my Barnes & Noble Nook HD+ using xda app-developers app
This might be a very noob question. But perhaps someone over here can help clear some things for me. I bought a Nook HD+ which I rooted and installed Google Play using leapinlar's excellent guide
The install seems to be working fine. Except Widgets have issues...and from what I can tell that is an issue with 2.0.6 and nothing can be done about that.
Three things I would like some clarification on are:
1. I also purchased another Nook HD+ for Mrs. and am planning on rooting that one too. Do I have to use a new SD card or can I just use the same one I made for the my hd+. Also how would the backups work for this (the backup suggested in the guide)
2. I read somewhere about Hybrid SD and booting from that. Is that method still suggested or is the one I followed the best and latest one.
3. The recent apps button on the lower right corner only shows apps which were opened on the Barnes and Nobles side of the HD+. None of the apps I opened on the android side show up. Can this be fixed?
Sorry for the multiple questions...This is my first foray in the android world and am slightly out of my element!
1. You can use the same CWM SD with no problems. But don't share the backups between the two. The backups can both be on the same SD but label them so you know which is which.
2. Hybrid puts a different operating system on your device. CM10 or CM10.1. They are completely different than stock. It is just a matter of preference which one you want.
3. You can get an app from the Play Store called recents plus that lets you see the non B&N installed apps in a recents window.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
leapinlar said:
1. You can use the same CWM SD with no problems. But don't share the backups between the two. They can both be on the same SD but label them so you know which is which.
2. Hybrid puts a different operating system on your device. CM10 or CM10.1. They are completely different than stock. It is just a matter of preference which one you want.
3. You can get an app from the Play Store called recents plus that lets you see the non B&N installed apps in a recents window.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
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I was hoping to have the expert reply themselves (noticed you were reading this thread...was waiting in anticipation!! )
Once again going with the standard knowledge that I'm slightly dumb..
1. How would I choose to do the different backups on the same Sd card.
2. So if Hybrid puts a different OS (CM10 or 10.1) does this mean that the B&N Nook's OS is gone and I left with a purer android device?
3. So if what I am understanding about the Hybrid method...im guessing the recent apps issue will be resolved since there won't be any B&N nook side.
Some additional Qs.
4. Is it possible to access Settings for Android and not the ones which come from the B&N end (having trouble with BT keyboard..the stock settings page doesnt give pop up to enter pin code
5. Would you suggest any path (Hybrid or you version that I used) for my needs/wants. What is the best and most trouble free option to get the purest Android experience.
Sorry for posing even more questions...but figured that I should take advantage while I have you attention!
1. After you make the backup, put the card in your PC and go to /clockworkmod/backups and there should be a folder named with a date. Rename that folder with something to remind you whose it is (like brokemember backup). Then when you backup your wife's HD+, rename hers to something else (like brokemember wife backup).
2. No, the Hybrid puts the new operating system on the SD leaving the stock intact. Then you can boot too whichever you want. But the CM on Hybrid is a more pure Android.
3. Yes recents is solved on Hybrid.
4. No, stock settings is all you get on stock. Hybrid/CM has more robust settings.
5. Go with Hybrid and you can choose whichever you want to boot to.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
I need to update Adobe Air in order to use an app. Since it is preloaded on the Nook HD+ it will not install the latest version )giving a message that this app already exists). I have searched for answers on the internet and sought help from B&N phone, online and in store. In a December 2012 posthttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034878&page=2 on this forum someone suggested removing the app using Titanium backup and then reinstalling. I was unsure if it was appropriate to bump a thread that old, but I want to be sure I will not void my warranty or cause any future problems by doing this. I am definitely a noob so problem solving future difficulties would not be as easy for me as others on this site.
I have also considered using a sd card boot to see if I could update Adobe Air then. I put CM on 2 touchpads and an sd card boot on a Nook tablet, but I am confused by the many options for the HD+. There are a few sd card options, hybrid, etc. I assume the sd card options would leave my Nook HD+ unchanged when removing the card, but some of the comments make me unsure (changing partitions, writing to internal, etc).
Can someone please suggest the safest way to update Adobe Air that will in no way effect the stock Nook or my warranty.
Thank You
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I need to update Adobe Air in order to use an app. Since it is preloaded on the Nook HD+ it will not install the latest version )giving a message that this app already exists). I have searched for answers on the internet and sought help from B&N phone, online and in store. In a December 2012 posthttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034878&page=2 on this forum someone suggested removing the app using Titanium backup and then reinstalling. I was unsure if it was appropriate to bump a thread that old, but I want to be sure I will not void my warranty or cause any future problems by doing this. I am definitely a noob so problem solving future difficulties would not be as easy for me as others on this site.
I have also considered using a sd card boot to see if I could update Adobe Air then. I put CM on 2 touchpads and an sd card boot on a Nook tablet, but I am confused by the many options for the HD+. There are a few sd card options, hybrid, etc. I assume the sd card options would leave my Nook HD+ unchanged when removing the card, but some of the comments make me unsure (changing partitions, writing to internal, etc).
Can someone please suggest the safest way to update Adobe Air that will in no way effect the stock Nook or my warranty.
Thank You
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You do not say what you are running. If you are running stock, you do not want to remove anything with TB. It will reset the device.
And yes, generally running from SD leaves your stock intact.
I don't know the best way to update adobe air. You probably can't if running stock.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
Thank you for your response. I assumed since the person in the original thread couldn't update Adobe Air that meant they were running stock also. I appreciate you stopping me from erasing something I shouldn't.
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You do not say what you are running. If you are running stock, you do not want to remove anything with TB. It will reset the device.
And yes, generally running from SD leaves your stock intact.
I don't know the best way to update adobe air. You probably can't if running stock.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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My HD+ is still on stock because there is some B&N content I want to keep accessing on it. But it is laggy, and I don't want to keep making nandroid backups and restoring them in order to bring back responsiveness. So, is there a way to put CM11 on emmc while putting stock on a portion of a high capacity micro sd card?
I have verygreen's CM11 already for 3 months on my HD, and it's been working great. Absolutely no lag and it's rock solid and stable. So that's why I'd like to put it on my HD+, but I'd still like to have access to that B&N content.
So, is this possible and feasible?
Yes. Just put the CM11 on normally and go to verygreen's dev thread on putting stock on SD.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app
Thanks. Found the thread, will read it and give it a go, and will post any questions there.