Hi all, I am new to Samsung Galaxy S Advance. I have upgraded to official Jelly Bean 4.1 via kies. I have not rooted / installed custom rom and kernel yet.
Pls let me know some suggestions and tips for keeping my smartphone in a flying condition.
Sanish_advance said:
Hi all, I am new to Samsung Galaxy S Advance. I have upgraded to official Jelly Bean 4.1 via kies. I have not rooted / installed custom rom and kernel yet.
Pls let me know some suggestions and tips for keeping my smartphone in a flying condition.
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Only one way, Don't install unnecessary apps like widgets,battery saver,antivirus softwares. and if possible use custom debloated ROM (caution :it'll void warranty).
I think we can get our warranty back by resetting the binary counter and flashing your country's FW again and unroot.
Thank you
mr.harsh said:
Only one way, Don't install unnecessary apps like widgets,battery saver,antivirus softwares. and if possible use custom debloated ROM (caution :it'll void warranty).
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Thank you Mr. Harsh for your advice. As you said i also agree with you that installing many apps, widgets, antivirus softwares makes smartphone to lag. But what if i want to install more apps and still i can be in a smoother condition?
Case
Sanish_advance said:
Thank you Mr. Harsh for your advice. As you said i also agree with you that installing many apps, widgets, antivirus softwares makes smartphone to lag. But what if i want to install more apps and still i can be in a smoother condition?
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Hi, pls tell me where can i get a good case for s advance? i am unhappy with my present case.
Also let me know if apps is moved to SD Card will it makes working more faster? Dont mind as i am new to android. But i will be eager to update technology always.
Sanish_advance said:
Hi, pls tell me where can i get a good case for s advance? i am unhappy with my present case.
Also let me know if apps is moved to SD Card will it makes working more faster? Dont mind as i am new to android. But i will be eager to update technology always.
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If you're playing games on your phone, moving them to sd will make them lag. Not faster. You can limit background process though for better multitask if you're having lags and not wanting to root.
Hope this helps.
mr.harsh said:
Only one way, Don't install unnecessary apps like widgets,battery saver,antivirus softwares. and if possible use custom debloated ROM (caution :it'll void warranty).
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And i recommend not to install launchers.. especially 3D launchers...they consume huge amt of RAM fir a continous period. which might affect performance of heavy games..
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Sanish_advance said:
Thank you Mr. Harsh for your advice. As you said i also agree with you that installing many apps, widgets, antivirus softwares makes smartphone to lag. But what if i want to install more apps and still i can be in a smoother condition?
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Install debloated stock ROM and custom kernel.
Sanish_advance said:
Hi, pls tell me where can i get a good case for s advance? i am unhappy with my present case.
Also let me know if apps is moved to SD Card will it makes working more faster? Dont mind as i am new to android. But i will be eager to update technology always.
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Moving app to SD card will only increase loading time.It won't give increase performance.
In addition, you can try not to install many chat apps (ie: viber, line, wechat etc..) cause all of this always running in background consuming ram space and battery. Just whatsapp is enough. Well good enough for me though.
Thank you
arffrhn said:
In addition, you can try not to install many chat apps (ie: viber, line, wechat etc..) cause all of this always running in background consuming ram space and battery. Just whatsapp is enough. Well good enough for me though.
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What you say is correct. I have experienced that.
Please can you tell me where can i get a good case for s advance? I am unhappy with present one.
Sanish_advance said:
What you say is correct. I have experienced that.
Please can you tell me where can i get a good case for s advance? I am unhappy with present one.
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Case? I don't know. I always buy at the store in my country.
Thank you
mr.harsh said:
Install debloated stock ROM and custom kernel.
Moving app to SD card will only increase loading time.It won't give increase performance.
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What you said is correct. Thank you for your valuable suggestion.
Please use the thanks button rather than posting it.
mr.harsh said:
Install debloated stock ROM and custom kernel.
Moving app to SD card will only increase loading time.It won't give increase performance.
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But there're no debloated stock roms, only some customs with heavy theming.
Correct me, if I'm mistaken.
or you can root and de-bloat it yoursel, then un-root if you really want to keep it stock only.
Debloat by yourself mean to unninstall the apps that you dont need.
For example, i have only 98 apps from over 160 apps who came stock ROM.
Its only your choice what applications choose to erase from stock.
You have a guide in my signature with debloating ROM safe.
Hii.
..i want to purchase s advance ...is it a gud phone or not....share sum gaming experience wid mee
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mohit.bhagat1 said:
Hii.
..i want to purchase s advance ...is it a gud phone or not....share sum gaming experience wid mee
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the phone is good and a great value for money after the recent price drop...
all games run quite nice with occasional lag and hiccups and thats due to lesser ram in the phone...if you are heavily inclined towards playing high end games i would suggest you to not go for this one buy a phone with atleast 1gb ram...
and one more disadvantage (not for everyone though) is that this phone is not really developer friendly and apple of every developer's eye out there due to chipset...
see for your priorities and make the decision..:good:
Thanks ....Games like temle run ...subway surfer lags or not ????
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mohit.bhagat1 said:
Thanks ....Games like temle run ...subway surfer lags or not ????
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On jellybean with everything stock, it's likely that they will lag.
But dude read! This thread is not for buying advice! You can do enough research about this phone's performance if you would just search the forum.
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Hello everybody.
I ordered my Nexus One yesterday- It's shipping right now. Can't wait!
But, I'm curious if it's worth unlocking the bootloader and installing Cyanogen Mod when it arrives. I know that unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty, and installing CM might brick the phone if I do it wrong, but I've heard CM adds some pretty good features. (Apps on SDCard, extra Live Wallpaper features, etc.)
So, is it worth it? Would appreciate any advice.
The only thing that could brick your phone is the radio update not Cyanogen Mod. I wouldn't recommend doing it till 2 weeks - a month after having the phone and making sure it works well
Are apps on Sdcard worth it to you? Extra live wallpaper?
How would we know what you rate as very important?
Do you think I should wear blue socks tomorrow?
christiankk said:
Are apps on Sdcard worth it to you? Extra live wallpaper?
How would we know what you rate as very important?
Do you think I should wear blue socks tomorrow?
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I was just asking what general features and reasons to upgrade to it over the Stock ROM. But to answer your question, I don't have it yet, so I can't really say much, but I do browse the web, download stuff/apps, listen to music, play games, etc.
christiankk said:
Are apps on Sdcard worth it to you? Extra live wallpaper?
How would we know what you rate as very important?
Do you think I should wear blue socks tomorrow?
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What about tethering, himem and other fixes??
faraz1992 said:
What about tethering, himem and other fixes??
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Yeah - what about them?
If OP finds it important, go for the ROM - otherwise don't.
Pretty easy, eh?
MillyBays said:
I was just asking what general features and reasons to upgrade to it over the Stock ROM. But to answer your question, I don't have it yet, so I can't really say much, but I do browse the web, download stuff/apps, listen to music, play games, etc.
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It is good that you play games, however - if you don't state your needs how on earth can we help you?
I am hungry - should I eat McDonalds or KFC?
faraz1992 said:
What about tethering, himem and other fixes??
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I do find tethering important, and other fixes would be a good thing. But high memory...I never heard that part about the ROM, how does it give you more memory? (I know I sound like a noob)
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I do find tethering important, and other fixes would be a good thing. But high memory...I never heard that part about the ROM, how does it give you more memory? (I know I sound like a noob)
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I gives more memory by utilizing memory the standard setup does not use.
This only really matters if you install a lot of apps and don't use apps2sd.
I suggest you search and read the forums more.
christiankk said:
I gives more memory by utilizing memory the standard setup does not use.
This only really matters if you install a lot of apps and don't use apps2sd.
I suggest you search and read the forums more.
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I do plan on installing quite a few apps...so that might be useful.
Anything else?
christiankk said:
I gives more memory by utilizing memory the standard setup does not use.
This only really matters if you install a lot of apps and don't use apps2sd.
I suggest you search and read the forums more.
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Actually that's not true.
The himem kernal frees up RAM while apps are stored on the ROM. The only correlation is if you have a lot of apps running more RAM will be helpful (speed) , but it doesn't apply to storing them
look its up to you guys but from my experiences i well never look back
the stock was laggy compared to CM
some of the apps you can get such as
auto memory
cm updater
droid wall (awsomest app eva)
metamorph
shootme (ok its not the best but pretty cool lol)
N1 Flash light
apps to sd
there heaps more but its also CM mod
like he has put a way to wake up the phone with the trackerball
best thing ever
change songs while asleep by holding the volume button
all the updates that will be coming to the nexus one (such as flash)
so dont worry bout that
The only downside is the whole voided-warranty thing. If you don't mind that (I don't - I unlocked my bootloader on day 1 with the N1), you LOSE nothing. There isn't even a risk of bricking your phone - CM doesn't touch the bootlaoder or the recovery, so you can always reflash CM or flash something else.
Unlocking the bootloader (regardless of ROM choice) lets you use a hacked recovery, which gives you backup and selective wipe options - a must for playing with your phone.
CM's ROM gives you faster performance, a faster update cycle, plus tons of cool features: root access included, trackball wake, himem, dalvik cache in /cache (frees up lots of app space if you don't use apps2sd). Plus, pretty much all of the kernel developers out there (IntersectRaven, Ivan, Pershoot, etc.) use CM's source for their overclocking and undervolting (improving performance while improving battery life) experimentation.
Yes its worth flashing for higher mem and other little goodies that come with the ROM. Had my phone for barely a hour and rooted it. Now i use cm updater whenever i want to use a newer ROM and im good to go. CM updater made the reinstall process super easy.
MillyBays said:
Hello everybody.
I ordered my Nexus One yesterday- It's shipping right now. Can't wait!
But, I'm curious if it's worth unlocking the bootloader and installing Cyanogen Mod when it arrives. I know that unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty, and installing CM might brick the phone if I do it wrong, but I've heard CM adds some pretty good features. (Apps on SDCard, extra Live Wallpaper features, etc.)
So, is it worth it? Would appreciate any advice.
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Yes.
It is.
I have yet to see a thread where someone says "OMFG I VOIDED MY WARRANTY FOR THIS CRAP? I WANT STOCK NEXUS BACK!"
of course, maybe I missed it....
I love the ability to play FLAC files on my Nexus with the CM
Hi everyone... We're waiting offical JB but seems to be not coming. Whatever.
My problems or Questions is
I try a lot roms ( |TWBased| cuz i use s-pen futures) and every roms is same problem for me... When i install a new rom (my choice is clean install) the first week is like a heaven smooth-fast-stable... But then What's going on i don't know phone is lagging,heating etc.
I'm on BurtROM... In fact i recommend everybody rom is good i think. of use at best.
This problem is the same for everyone? all JellyBean roms like this? Or this problem just for me?
in fact i hear people install 300apps and say phone is still good.
What am I doing? I don't play a game actually. I use too much social apps, drawing and music thats it.
Thank you for your answers
PEACE!
orcunpakten said:
Hi everyone... We're waiting offical JB but seems to be not coming. Whatever.
My problems or Questions is
I try a lot roms ( |TWBased| cuz i use s-pen futures) and every roms is same problem for me... When i install a new rom (my choice is clean install) the first week is like a heaven smooth-fast-stable... But then What's going on i don't know phone is lagging,heating etc.
I'm on BurtROM... In fact i recommend everybody rom is good i think. of use at best.
This problem is the same for everyone? all JellyBean roms like this? Or this problem just for me?
in fact i hear people install 300apps and say phone is still good.
What am I doing? I don't play a game actually. I use too much social apps, drawing and music thats it.
Thank you for your answers
PEACE!
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Try the "top" command in the terminal emulator to see if anything is keeping your cpu busy.
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Look dude,
You right that the Phone its run like heaven but if u full eith usless apps your USB Storage thr phone will drag some cpu.....Try deleting usless app and make sure that everytime you finish with an app you remove apps from Multitask and Clear Memory from RAM->Clear Memory.....
orcunpakten said:
Hi everyone... We're waiting offical JB but seems to be not coming. Whatever.
My problems or Questions is
I try a lot roms ( |TWBased| cuz i use s-pen futures) and every roms is same problem for me... When i install a new rom (my choice is clean install) the first week is like a heaven smooth-fast-stable... But then What's going on i don't know phone is lagging,heating etc.
I'm on BurtROM... In fact i recommend everybody rom is good i think. of use at best.
This problem is the same for everyone? all JellyBean roms like this? Or this problem just for me?
in fact i hear people install 300apps and say phone is still good.
What am I doing? I don't play a game actually. I use too much social apps, drawing and music thats it.
Thank you for your answers
PEACE!
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Social apps are well known to use a lot of energy as they always attempt syncing with servers.
Can we run SuperCharger on our phones? And if we can can somebody please give me instructions. I will be very thankful.
13~BigBear~13 said:
Can we run SuperCharger on our phones? And if we can can somebody please give me instructions. I will be very thankful.
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Most folks here don't use that anymore and for good reason, the script does more harm than good. Most of the custom ROMs/kernels are pre-tweaked these days for the most part and a script like V6 tends to just clash with them. That being said, if you are still are determined to use it all you need is Script manager from Play. Download the V6 script and then run it using that app. At least make a nandroid so you can undo things if the results are undesirable for you.
Yea I just won't. But this phone is an OK phone but I want to try and squeeze as much ram and not to make it run behind like it does really well on slim bean 4.1.2 but I just want to get everything out of this phone as I can.
13~BigBear~13 said:
Yea I just won't. But this phone is an OK phone but I want to try and squeeze as much ram and not to make it run behind like it does really well on slim bean 4.1.2 but I just want to get everything out of this phone as I can.
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Try Auto Killer to manage the RAM, it's about as good or better than anything. Just always keep in mind that with only 512mb of RAM and less than 360mb usable RAM you will never get a lag free experience unless you use a Gingerbread ROM.
ArtfulDodger said:
Try Auto Killer to manage the RAM, it's about as good or better than anything. Just always keep in mind that with only 512mb of RAM and less than 360mb usable RAM you will never get a lag free experience unless you use a Gingerbread ROM.
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Really? While you do make some good points, I'd have to disagree with you about a couple of things. First off, using auto killers isn't a good idea with Android, period. They do more harm down the road, causing instabilities in the ROM and apps. There are several write-ups about this around the web - just search and you'll find them. Secondly, even the stock TouchWiz GB is slow and laggy, as is Peach Sunrise and all the other GB ROMs. Sorry, but it's true. Some ROMs might seem okay, but when it comes right down to it, Jelly Bean has been a major improvement in overall speed. I'm sure if you put 2 Exhibit's side-by-side with stock Gingerbread and a vanila JB AOSP (such as SuperNexus), compared the speed and responsiveness, the JB device would win hands-down.
There are ways to help with the performance of this phone, however. There's a whole thread dedicated to it right here. Something not mentioned there because that thread is a little dated, is the beautiful app known as Greenify. Essentially, what Greenify does is freeze/unfreeze apps on-the-fly. It's a similar method to how you do it with Titanium Backup or other apps that can freeze apps, but Greenify does it in such a way that the apps don't disappear from the launcher, and will unfreeze them as soon as they're opened. When they're frozen, they won't take up precious RAM, CPU cycles, and won't drain the battery. Due to it's nature of freezing apps, it's not recommended to use Greenify on the launcher, live wallpapers, icon packs, or anything you use widgets with. All other apps (especially Facebook) are fair game. Good luck!
Bloodflame said:
Really? While you do make some good points, I'd have to disagree with you about a couple of things. First off, using auto killers isn't a good idea with Android, period. They do more harm down the road, causing instabilities in the ROM and apps. There are several write-ups about this around the web - just search and you'll find them. Secondly, even the stock TouchWiz GB is slow and laggy, as is Peach Sunrise and all the other GB ROMs. Sorry, but it's true. Some ROMs might seem okay, but when it comes right down to it, Jelly Bean has been a major improvement in overall speed. I'm sure if you put 2 Exhibit's side-by-side with stock Gingerbread and a vanila JB AOSP (such as SuperNexus), compared the speed and responsiveness, the JB device would win hands-down.
There are ways to help with the performance of this phone, however. There's a whole thread dedicated to it right here. Something not mentioned there because that thread is a little dated, is the beautiful app known as Greenify. Essentially, what Greenify does is freeze/unfreeze apps on-the-fly. It's a similar method to how you do it with Titanium Backup or other apps that can freeze apps, but Greenify does it in such a way that the apps don't disappear from the launcher, and will unfreeze them as soon as they're opened. When they're frozen, they won't take up precious RAM, CPU cycles, and won't drain the battery. Due to it's nature of freezing apps, it's not recommended to use Greenify on the launcher, live wallpapers, icon packs, or anything you use widgets with. All other apps (especially Facebook) are fair game. Good luck!
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Actually I have the answer courtesy of Hatememarkez. NOS script: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158329
As I just posted over in the Pacman thread amazingly I was able to get Gnow, Maps, Poweramp and Boat Browser running at the same time and my phone did not freeze up. No lag even. I'm in shock right now with the hell I've been through with this phone.
I know about Greenify but frankly I don't think it does much as I didn't get battery improvement or performance improvement out of it. Reason being your biggest resource eater in JB are Google apps. Greenify won't keep them hibernated. Seeder helps a little bit, but just a little.
On those GB ROMs, forget Peach. I'm talking about RebelROM and CM7. They are the fastest ROMs we have for this phone, just my opinion as I've used about everything that is offered for this phone. Although right now Baked Bean in conjunction with NOS is kicking major a** so I may have to amend my comments. Thing is I've been burned every time I say something like that so who knows. If a week from now things are the same, then it's V-day!
ArtfulDodger said:
Actually I have the answer courtesy of Hatememarkez. NOS script: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158329
As I just posted over in the Pacman thread amazingly I was able to get Gnow, Maps, Poweramp and Boat Browser running at the same time and my phone did not freeze up. No lag even. I'm in shock right now with the hell I've been through with this phone.
I know about Greenify but frankly I don't think it does much as I didn't get battery improvement or performance improvement out of it. Reason being your biggest resource eater in JB are Google apps. Greenify won't keep them hibernated. Seeder helps a little bit, but just a little.
On those GB ROMs, forget Peach. I'm talking about RebelROM and CM7. They are the fastest ROMs we have for this phone, just my opinion as I've used about everything that is offered for this phone. Although right now Baked Bean in conjunction with NOS is kicking major a** so I may have to amend my comments. Thing is I've been burned every time I say something like that so who knows. If a week from now things are the same, then it's V-day!
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Do you know if NOS script would work with slimbean 4.1.2?
it should just read the thread and do a backup
smartguy044 said:
it should just read the thread and do a backup
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Thanks for your reply. Also, do you happen to know how the tweaks in NOS script differ from V6?
i have no idea. i only used v6 once and the was a few phones ago when i had the note
an0maly13 said:
Thanks for your reply. Also, do you happen to know how the tweaks in NOS script differ from V6?
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Read the two threads to compare but far as I'm concerned the difference is that NOS actually works for the ROM and not against it. It's also MUCH easier to install than that cumbersome script V6 uses.
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Read the two threads to compare but far as I'm concerned the difference is that NOS actually works for the ROM and not against it. It's also MUCH easier to install than that cumbersome script V6 uses.
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I would read the threads but I'm an amateur at this stuff, so I'm can't really understand the jargon yet. I'm looking into trying NOS though; how can I check my busybox version?
an0maly13 said:
I would read the threads but I'm an amateur at this stuff, so I'm can't really understand the jargon yet. I'm looking into trying NOS though; how can I check my busybox version?
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Just open the Busy Box app and it will tell you. If you install updates from Play you should have the latest version though.
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Just open the Busy Box app and it will tell you. If you install updates from Play you should have the latest version though.
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Thanks. I looked from the busybox app and it only lets me install up to 1.20.2. The NOS script requires 1.20.4?
an0maly13 said:
Thanks. I looked from the busybox app and it only lets me install up to 1.20.2. The NOS script requires 1.20.4?
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Look closer, it's 1.21.0. If not you need an update from Play.
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Look closer, it's 1.21.0. If not you need an update from Play.
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I was using the wrong busybox app from the play store.... haha thanks a bunch
The model number is N900A. I did get my phone through AT&T. I've heard that there are some serious problems rooting and installed roms etc through AT&T and Verizon. The Note 3 is my first Android device and I would have to say I'm in love with this phone. What I'm not in love with are all these apps and other nonsense running in my background. I hear rooting and installing different roms can solve this. I have used Clean Master from the app store to clear cache and free up RAM, but moments later these same apps open right back up. The Note 3 has 2.4GB of RAM available, correct? I haven't put much on this phone in the way of apps. I did put some music and bought one app to change the icons on my phone. When I check Clean Master, I'm always using between 1.6-1.8GB of RAM. Thinking to myself, "what is the purpose of Clean Master if all of these annoying apps just open themselves back up?"
Other thoughts would be:
How much RAM will I free up by rooting(assuming of course it's possible)and installing a fairly simple ROM to change the overall look and feel? I'm looking for simplicity. Just want something that works, doesn't eat a lot of my RAM, and isn't known for a lot of bugs/issues.
I'm hoping some of this information helps someone help me. I'm currently running 4.3. I've also researched some of the positives and negatives of rooting and installing roms. It seems worth it if I can free up some RAM and get rid of all these apps and such running in the background.
I have a Att&t and I'm rooted.....No problems 4 days or more battery life and love it!
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I have a Att&t and I'm rooted.....No problems 4 days or more battery life and love it!
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That's great, glad to hear it. Care to point me in the direction of the method you used to do so? Would prefer a simple step by step tutorial/video. Also, are you able to run any roms/mods?
IcyRhythms said:
That's great, glad to hear it. Care to point me in the direction of the method you used to do so? Would prefer a simple step by step tutorial/video. Also, are you able to run any roms/mods?
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if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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if you still want to root look in the general section on here for kingo to do custom roms go to development section and look for bootstrap make sure you read and know what you are doing before doing it you can mess up your phone
for beenolem
jerrycoffman45 said:
if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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It would be nice to remove them completely. There is so much pre-installed software on this phone that I can't be certain what should or shouldn't be turned off.
Just want the basics. Facebook, text, Gmail, phone calls, and the play store to work and I'm good.
IcyRhythms said:
It would be nice to remove them completely. There is so much pre-installed software on this phone that I can't be certain what should or shouldn't be turned off.
Just want the basics. Facebook, text, Gmail, phone calls, and the play store to work and I'm good.
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turning them off makes the phone think they are removed the good thing about it is it will not allow you to turn off anything critical all the att stuff can be turned off and i edited my post above
jerrycoffman45 said:
turning them off makes the phone think they are removed the good thing about it is it will not allow you to turn off anything critical all the att stuff can be turned off and i edited my post above
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Thanks again
The Kingo Root seems very simple. Think I'll do that and then maybe look into some roms.
jerrycoffman45 said:
if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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if you still want to root look in the general section on here for kingo to do custom roms go to development section and look for bootstrap make sure you read and know what you are doing before doing it you can mess up your phone
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You mentioned bootstrap. I don't see bootstrap when doing a search. I only see Safestrap.
Safestrap is the method used to install custom roms...bootstrap was prolly an auto correct typo. Just follow the Safestrap method 100% and you should be good. When you pick a rom make sure you read the 1st post throughly and entirely. ..Most roms come with all the att/samsung bloat ...you will prolly still have to weed through and disable them. Good luck and have fun
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Unhived__Mind said:
Safestrap is the method used to install custom roms...bootstrap was prolly an auto correct typo. Just follow the Safestrap method 100% and you should be good. When you pick a rom make sure you read the 1st post throughly and entirely. ..Most roms come with all the att/samsung bloat ...you will prolly still have to weed through and disable them. Good luck and have fun
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Thanks for that. Do you know if CynogenMod 11 is supported on the Note 3/AT&T?
IcyRhythms said:
You mentioned bootstrap. I don't see bootstrap when doing a search. I only see Safestrap.
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thats it auto correct got me
IcyRhythms said:
Thanks for that. Do you know if CynogenMod 11 is supported on the Note 3/AT&T?
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You have not read about safestrap yet have you? You can't really flash anything to this phone but safestrap gives you sort of a work around at the cost of internal or external SD card space. As for CM11, that is a big no. Only slightly modified stock like ROMS work right now and as I said they are not truly flashed to the device. Safestrap lets you set your phone up sort of like a dual or multi boot PC. At boot up you pic which of up to four ROMS you want it to use.
Solarenemy68 said:
You have not read about safestrap yet have you? You can't really flash anything to this phone but safestrap gives you sort of a work around at the cost of internal or external SD card space. As for CM11, that is a big no. Only slightly modified stock like ROMS work right now and as I said they are not truly flashed to the device. Safestrap lets you set your phone up sort of like a dual or multi boot PC. At boot up you pic which of up to four ROMS you want it to use.
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Any word on if/when that will be a possibility?
Also, meant to ask earlier(it's also a little too late since I've already done it)does using Kingo Root disable Samsung/AT&T updates like KitKat?(still blows me away that KitKat has yet to release for this phone on AT&T)
IcyRhythms said:
The Note 3 has 2.4GB of RAM available, correct? I haven't put much on this phone in the way of apps.
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Nothing to do with RAM. RAM is where apps run. When you install an app it gets installed to storage (think of storage like the hard drive on a desktop computer).
When I check Clean Master, I'm always using between 1.6-1.8GB of RAM. Thinking to myself, "what is the purpose of Clean Master if all of these annoying apps just open themselves back up?"
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In Windows, the more free RAM you have, the better. In Android, any unused RAM is wasted RAM. As soon as you free up some RAM, Android's memory manager is going to load something in the newly freed space. RAM cleaning programs are a waste of battery, a waste of time (both yours and the computer's) and a waste of storage (the space they're stored in). Android has a great memory manager - let it do its thing.
How much RAM will I free up by rooting
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None. You'll be using storage to store su, busybox and SuperSU. Rooting has nothing to do with RAM.
installing a fairly simple ROM to change the overall look and feel?
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Install Nova Launcher. It's an app, not a ROM, so there's no warranty issue, no bricking issue and it's a welcome change from the monkey-designed TouchWiz. (The old joke that if you sat a million monkeys at a million typewriters for a million years, eventually they'd have written all of Shakespeare's works? They'd also have written TouchWiz.)
Just want something that works, doesn't eat a lot of my RAM
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The amount of RAM an app uses is determined by the app, not by the ROM or the launcher (which is the "look" of the phone when you turn it on).
and isn't known for a lot of bugs/issues.
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The stock ROM works, doesn't use that much storage (I collect apps like junkyard dogs collect fleas, and I have just a hair under 29GB of free internal storage - and a lot of junk apps I have to uninstall, because I just downloaded to help people. And as far as bugs go ... I haven't seen any in general (I had to return 2 Note 3s and one of the ones I have now, which is a refurb, may also have to go back - but that's all hardware issues). If you want looks you change launchers and lock screens. (And there's a lot you can do with the settings to make things look different.)
There's really only one reason to root - because you need (or really want) to run an app that needs root permissions.
There's really only one reason to run a different ROM - because it has features that you want that the stock ROM doesn't.
All the rest is experimentation, fun and watching geniuses (and there are a lot of them on xda) at work. But remember, rooting alone voids the warranty. ROMming not only voids the warranty, it can mess up your phone. Is it $700 worth of fun? That's for you to decide. Rooting (as long as you don't use root status to mess anything up) is safe. ROMming, not so much. Still fixable - in most cases - but the first time you're stuck in a boot loop, you'll panic longer than it takes to reflash the phone.
some of the positives and negatives of rooting and installing roms. It seems worth it if I can free up some RAM
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If you run Kit Kat you'll free up some RAM, but the official update will be out soon anyway
and get rid of all these apps and such running in the background.
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Turn them off.
People are taking molehills and making Olympus Mons out of them. There are so many much simpler solutions to so many of the "problems" people want to "solve" by rooting or changing ROMs.
Oh, I forgot one other very important reason to root, and as a child of the 60s it should have been the first one to occur to me - sticking it to the man.
Thanks for all the help to those that responded. The last reply in particular would have been very helpful had a I not jumped the gun yesterday. I rooted my phone yesterday. DIDN'T try anything else like new themes/roms. Just rooted the phone. After about an hour the phone having issues. Freezing. Apps not opening. Then, I unrooted. Haven't had a freeze since, but the phone is still doing odd things it wasn't doing before. Apps appear to be taking longer open etc...I went to send a text message about an hour ago and when I clicked on the text to begin typing the big envelope icon covered the entire screen looking very pixelated. ugh....
Hi guys, i wanna perform a downgrade back to jellybean because kit kat really gets on my nerves for multiple reasons..
The reason i have not done this yet is purely because i dont want to lose anything i have on my phone, basically I'm looking for a backup programme which backs up absolutely everything i have on my internal storage, including 3rd party apps I've installed and set up, downloaded videos which are stored within apps and everything else pretty much THEN once I have performed the downgrade, to be able to just restore the backup and have my phone identical to how it is now only with jellybean instead of kitkat. Is this possible? Cheers in advance.
Titanium Backup is Good but sometimes gives errors.. I personally use Super Backup Pro it never fails very good for App and other items backup and restore
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For apps titanium for pics, mega, 50GB for free, never runs out like dropbox will.
If you're going to get titanium, pay for the pro version, you'll thank me later when you're restoring your apps.
Ok cheers guys, i will look into them all.
originaltanksta said:
Ok cheers guys, i will look into them all.
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NP m8.
PS: Spotted you without a thanks, put one on there for ya
dladz said:
If you're going to get titanium, pay for the pro version, you'll thank me later when you're restoring your apps.
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This! Especially when switching ROMs often, you will find the added features from the pro version helpful.
I was greatful for being able to restore the device ID so apps would just work like before.
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This! Especially when switching ROMs often, you will find the added features from the pro version helpful.
I was greatful for being able to restore the device ID so apps would just work like before.
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Very true, using the non pro version will work but it's a mundane task to have to allow and then install each and every app one after another, very useful if you plan on testing different roms with your apps, the automated process is so much quicker and it'll save you time.
Half way through installing 300+ apps you'll be thinking of that pro key.
Plus the do deserve your cash, amazing app titanium.
When looking into these backup apps including titanium it says I need to be rooted to use the features i want. I'm not rooted and dont really plan to be. It's a shame really because i moved over to android so i had more freedom and control over my device and at first I had as much control as i needed with jellybean (more is better obviously) but the kitkat update pretty much made every sd enabled phone into a poor device. Plus I find the wifi range is really bad on kitkat but jellybean had so much better range. My point is that it's annoying that i should have to root my phone to make it as i want it and be able to toy with the settings when really it should already either have these features or be better optimised. Now I'm wondering if i should just root my phone rather than downgrading it? If i root it can i tweak the wifi range? And can I allow my apps to have better access to my sd card? Also if i upgrade to 4.4.4 can i still root the phone after? Cheers
If you root, it is easier to do on 4.4.4, and you can fix the sd card issue.
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Fantastic help from you guys, much appreciated. It's good to actually be on a forum without morons! Lol
Ok so im now possibly leaning toward the rooting route.. Would you advise getting it done by someone in a shop or doing it myself? I'm pretty competent but if it's a risky process then I'd rather it be done properly! Are there any good tutorials for rooting from 4.4.4? Also does rooting wipe the phone memory? Cheers
And any app recommendations for rooted phones that allow me to sort out the sd access problems, also apps that allow me to tinker with my wifi range etc.. Just any good full customisation apps really so i can really get this phone as it should be!
Follow my signature, its a one click solution and takes about 30 seconds
gregbradley said:
Follow my signature, its a one click solution and takes about 30 seconds
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Cheers pal
Ok so just to be sure.. My phone is totally standard running standard 4.4.4, all I have to do is download and run the tool and my phone is rooted? I don't have to make any mods to my phone first to prepare for it?
I only ask because people mention locked and unlocked boot loaders, i dont know what they are! Or the difference between them.
Sorry for being a pain!
No, just download newroot, run it, then you are rooted and have recovery.
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Follow my signature, its a one click solution and takes about 30 seconds
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You sir, are a life saver, I've been deciding to go root my device but ha Ave yet to have a one stop shop to cover all what is necessary. Cheers mate!
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