Dropping to 3g - Sprint HTC One (M7)

I switched back to this phone after having the galaxy 4 because this is a better phone for the most part.
That being said..this phone does poorly hanging on to LTE with Sprint. In areas that have steady 4g coverage that my iPhone 5 and s4 would display 4g, the One often inexplicably drops to 3g, requiring a switch to airplane mode and back again.
I actually used the airplane mode to force 4g like 5 times today.
I know somebody else has to see this issue
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greengoldmello said:
I switched back to this phone after having the galaxy 4 because this is a better phone for the most part.
That being said..this phone does poorly hanging on to LTE with Sprint. In areas that have steady 4g coverage that my iPhone 5 and s4 would display 4g, the One often inexplicably drops to 3g, requiring a switch to airplane mode and back again.
I actually used the airplane mode to force 4g like 5 times today.
I know somebody else has to see this issue
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I have a thread where I'm working on trying to tweak some epst settings to fix some of these issues. Haven't gotten to the LTE stuff really yet.
D3rped out Beastmode! HTC ONE!

Funny thing is I was thinking of posting this in your thread, but I didnt want to derail it.
I think part of the problem stems from the One not scanning for lte as often as the other phones. I drop data completely quite often and it takes a while to pop back up. And when it does, it's 3g, not 4
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Same here.. 2 different Ones same issue.. Hoping for a radio fix from sprint/HTC because EPST settings won't fix the problem
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BrianBaker said:
Same here.. 2 different Ones same issue.. Hoping for a radio fix from sprint/HTC because EPST settings won't fix the problem
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It wouldn't fix it but if it's just a configuration issue. Example if it's designed to drop a signal sooner than say the S4 then tweaking some settings COULD fix it. That's all I'm looking to do. Try to fine tune some settings specifically for sprint and this phone.
Edit: I also know that sometimes that can do more harm than good (like maintaining too weak of a signal and have no data connection to speak of) but. Doesn't hurt to try!
D3rped out Beastmode! HTC ONE!

Thought I was done with the airplane mode dance as well, coming from the EVO LTE. Ah well.
Oddly, I've had the phone stay on LTE far more often using AOSP, same for my old EVO LTE, which it's usually the opposite no?
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Airplane toggle is kind of pointless. The phone grabs LTE Just fine.. It just won't hold it. Especially when you start something that uses data. I've been in areas where I know the signal drops with this phone with it sitting in the dock. But as soon as you run a speed test or download an app it drops to 3G..In all honesty the only way to keep this stupid thing stable is to disable LTE completely and run with crap 3G until your area is heavily saturated with LTE because when your in the middle of doing something data centric and it switched to 3G you have to pretty much start all over or re open the app. Never had to do this on my Note 2.
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This worries me. I'm thinking of selling the note 2 and picking this phone up. The note 2 has great reception.
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I have experienced this too but it happens to me when I am driving home from work which is a 2 hour drive the job site I am at has lte and it holds a signal all day. On the way home I will lose data in certain locations every day the exact same ones cause obviously sprints lte is still being worked on but I think it maybe be because they are upgrading towers cause in the past month I get lte in more and more places driving on I94 from Detroit to Kalamazoo and also the job site has lte everywhere and before it was spotty
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I have experienced this too but it happens to me when I am driving home from work which is a 2 hour drive the job site I am at has lte and it holds a signal all day. On the way home I will lose data in certain locations every day the exact same ones cause obviously sprints lte is still being worked on but I think it maybe be because they are upgrading towers cause in the past month I get lte in more and more places driving on I94 from Detroit to Kalamazoo and also the job site has lte everywhere and before it was spotty
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This happens to me and my 1st HTC One and my current HTC One and my co workers HTC One no matter if we're standing still or driving..In areas I know for a fact are not being currently worked on..It only happens on the outskirts of an LTE Signal.But like i said earlier,these are places my Note 2 has never ever dropped a signal..I've debated so many times going back to my Note 2 but I just can't do it.469 DPI and a screen I can see in daylight has spoiled me rotten...Only logical thing to do is go to AT&T and buy the HTC One there but that would do a number on my wallet so i'll stick around with Sprint until winter and see what they can do.

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Airplane toggle is kind of pointless. The phone grabs LTE Just fine.. It just won't hold it. Especially when you start something that uses data. I've been in areas where I know the signal drops with this phone with it sitting in the dock. But as soon as you run a speed test or download an app it drops to 3G..In all honesty the only way to keep this stupid thing stable is to disable LTE completely and run with crap 3G until your area is heavily saturated with LTE because when your in the middle of doing something data centric and it switched to 3G you have to pretty much start all over or re open the app. Never had to do this on my Note 2.
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Keep in mind the signal strength you see is NOT 4G even if you're getting 4G.
There are tools to monitor 4G Strength (search google play).
This phone is horrible with weak 4G around. Bounces in and out and it's very slow at doing that.

As I drive through known 4g coverage areas my note 2 grabs 4g with no issue. My HTC one woould stay in 3g. Frustrating knowing I'm giving my Note 2 to my nephew. Good thing 4g is only in small spots around Southern CT.

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Keep in mind the signal strength you see is NOT 4G even if you're getting 4G.
There are tools to monitor 4G Strength (search google play).
This phone is horrible with weak 4G around. Bounces in and out and it's very slow at doing that.
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Im aware of what the signal bars represent on this phone.. I go into field test to look at dbm's
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I cannot imagine how awesome this phone would be with strong 4g. I use verizon razr hd for my work line and 95% of the time it has a 4g signal, and thats the phone i always reach for when on the road although i love my one so much more...seems sprints roll out is not as fast as I anticipated

I live on the border of an official 4g area (Los Angeles) and I seem to go back and forth from LTE and 3g at home all day long. But, when you do get LTE, it is amazing. Fastest LTE speeds I've ever seen on any carrier. I easily get 25/10 and a great signal in LTE zones.

I have often wondered how my phone could bounce around from 4g to 3g then sometimes to no.data connection all while sitting in the same spot. Is that a network or a device issue? If it's a phone issue do I have a right to get a different one,even though I have had this for over a month
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tommason1968 said:
I have often wondered how my phone could bounce around from 4g to 3g then sometimes to no.data connection all while sitting in the same spot. Is that a network or a device issue? If it's a phone issue do I have a right to get a different one,even though I have had this for over a month
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Definitely a network issue..Don't waste your time getting a replacement because it will be the same...Weather and humidity come in to play here as well

This is the story of my life since I got the One. People keep telling me that the S4 has the same issues and the problem is Sprint, but of the 3 people I know with an S4 none of them have this problem where I live. Once they are in an area with 4G, their phone stays on 4G. With the HTC One it takes forever to pick up 4G and once it decides to drop 4G it will take forever to pick it back up unless you toggle airplane mode.
The phone is damn near unusable in Johnson City TN because the 3G is way over capacity on at least half the towers in the area, and if the phone can't hold on to the 4G signals that I know are there then it's basically a paperweight. I really hope there is an update soon.

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LTE RSRP (dBm) signal comparison

I think a lot of us would like to see is the RSRP (dBm) values of the HTC One sitting next to the EVO and possibly another device like the GS3 or Note 2.
Can someone who has the HTC One in a 4G LTE market find another LTE phone and compare them side by side?
Pretty Please!
Thanks in advance!
Tell me where to get the dBm values and I can do it for you.
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Felnarion said:
Tell me where to get the dBm values and I can do it for you.
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On HTC phones you can go to "About Phone" and then "Network" or the "Sensorly" app will show you under "Details" if you have that app downloaded
Do you have an EVO or other phone activated that you can show the screens side by side?
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On HTC phones you can go to "About Phone" and then "Network" or the "Sensorly" app will show you under "Details" if you have that app downloaded
Do you have an EVO or other phone activated that you can show the screens side by side?
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Here are some screenshots of where to find it.
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i use signalcheck found in the play store.
I use an app called Open Signal for testing signal strength, it's free and I think ad-free... as well as useful.
I would test the LTE, but there is no LTE where I live.
Somewhat related, I started a thread moments ago about signal issue I am having on my ONE unfortunately...
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I use an app called Open Signal for testing signal strength, it's free and I think ad-free... as well as useful.
I would test the LTE, but there is no LTE where I live.
Somewhat related, I started a thread moments ago about signal issue I am having on my ONE unfortunately...
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Issues with 3G or voice calls?
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Here are my stats, though I don't know how relevant they are. No matter what, I cannot get them to connect to the same tower. The comparison is between the One and an S3, The S3 runs CM 10.1. The screenshots were taken in the same place, not side by side, but in the exact same location one after the other.
Check the filenames to compare.
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Issues with 3G or voice calls?
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Voice for sure, haven't tested any 3G yet.... on WIFi at the house.
heres in my house where its spotty, my daughters ip5 is anywhere between -112-117 in the house and stays on lte. neither the one, lte or my wifes gs3 can hold the lte connection like the ip5 can in this house.
LTE no connection and this was after a airplane mode shuffle
and the One
Just went into a sprint store yesterday and compared the One with my EVO ....I am VERY VERY Disappointed!
The sprint store is right on the edge of a 4G tower...perfect for testing the RF signal. When I walked in the One was connected to 4G without issue, EVO as well. Tried going to the network screen on the one but for some reason it was greyed out and could not access. So I downloaded sensorly so I could see the RSRP values.
Just holding the 2 phones together for a picture and the HTC one drops LTE.
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Is this something that can be fixed or do we have to rely on Sprint and HTC to adjust something?.. I'm dropping from 4G to 3G all the time in places my other LTE phones hold.
Is this a software issue or Hardware?
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I just drove one way down a road(4 miles) that has 4G with my phone in the dock and sensory and Google music running. Held 4G the whole way..
Just had to drive down the same road back to the house with the phone on my center console and it was holding 4G again until I touched the phone. When I let it go it connects to 4G again after a minute or so.. Then when I touch it it loses 4G again.. WTF is going on here?
When I say "touch" it, I mean just picking it up in hand. Did this 4 times... This does not happen in areas where it's a strong LTE signal. Only in the outer areas of the LTE signal. But like mentioned before, my other devices hold it fine.
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I work in a basement office (IT), and i'm close enough to a tower that my GS3 would still be able to hold on to a weak LTE signal at times (mostly 3G, but sitting on my desk, I could usually cycle airplane mode and get it to hold LTE). It pulled about 2 meg down on LTE the couple times I tested it. I've seen my One grab LTE a couple times, but as soon as it tried to move any data, it would drop back to 3G.
Other than that, both seem to perform pretty much the same to me, but haven't had enough time to test them side by side. I always had to cycle airplane mode to get the GS3 to look for LTE again after dropping to 3G (without having to wait 10 minutes), but with the One, it seems like all you have to do is toggle Mobile Data off and back on and it'll grab LTE. Definite plus there.
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I just drove one way down a road(4 miles) that has 4G with my phone in the dock and sensory and Google music running. Held 4G the whole way..
Just had to drive down the same road back to the house with the phone on my center console and it was holding 4G again until I touched the phone. When I let it go it connects to 4G again after a minute or so.. Then when I touch it it loses 4G again.. WTF is going on here?
When I say "touch" it, I mean just picking it up in hand. Did this 4 times... This does not happen in areas where it's a strong LTE signal. Only in the outer areas of the LTE signal. But like mentioned before, my other devices hold it fine.
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Yep, same thing here...I pick up the phone, press the power button to wake, and within seconds data either switches to 3G and/or drops altogether, only to come back after short period. When it comes back it sometimes stays good and sometimes continues to give me issues. I'm thinking software too...but I'm definitely not in a fringe area, at least according to Sprint's coverage map. I'm not going to wait this out and be frustrated...tomorrow morning I'm going to an AT&T store and check out their demo. If it holds a data connection I'm returning the Sprint phone and switching to AT&T. Thankfully, I was at the end of my Verizon contract and within the 14 day remorse period with Sprint.
Oh, and I might add, it did this while I was in the Sprint store and I dismissed it as being indoors or something that would settle. I guess I was so smitten with this sexy ass phone that I too quickly dismissed the issue.

Delay in connecting to data

Is it normal to take a while to connect to data? How does I compare to other sprint LTE phones?
I've noticed that if I disconnect from wifi, it may take a while before I get any data at all. I drove nearly 5 blocks yesterday before it connected to anything at all, searching for signal since walking out the door and turning wifi off completely.
I'm guessing I'm just in spotty area for 4G and it doesn't know whether to connect to 3g or 4G.
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I live in Orlando Fl. and it doesn't usually take long to connect to data for me. But we only have 3G here for now. I don't think 4G is releasing until later this year. I do know that Sprints 3G speeds suck big time here. I'm lucky if I can get the Google page to load up in less than 3 minutes. It's pretty pathetic sometimes.
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I live in Orlando Fl. and it doesn't usually take long to connect to data for me. But we only have 3G here for now. I don't think 4G is releasing until later this year. I do know that Sprints 3G speeds suck big time here. I'm lucky if I can get the Google page to load up in less than 3 minutes. It's pretty pathetic sometimes.
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Have not really notice it but on vipers rom I can see it cycling between 1x and 3g in my house. Btw I es in a spot that has LTE yesterday and my wife's GSIII had 4g on but my ONE was not picking it up.
sonofshade: I was un Avalon park on Saturday and there is 4g there also parts of Altamonte mainly heading W from I4 and also when I was art Disney last week. It's spotty but they seem to be testing.
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Sprint Instability

Had an entire section of town go down yesterday. Showed full signal but everytime anyone attempted to make a call it showed "network failure". Even attempting to call sprint's customer service numbers.
Finally got ahold of sprint via a land line and they claimed the towers show no problems and the network wasn't congested...
It is really bad since I rely on my phone for emergency response. Anyone else notice instability like this lately?
Are you in an area where LTE is being deployed? Sometimes that happens. You dont get LTE and the 3G gets worse.
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Are you in an area where LTE is being deployed? Sometimes that happens. You dont get LTE and the 3G gets worse.
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Well we were on the "list" (Tallahassee, FL) but haven't seen much LTE (or any) in Tallahassee... It wasn't just 3g, the entire 1xRTT network dropped (no phone calls, no texts). I am on business so I get to use business tech (instead of consumer tech) and they viewed all the work orders for the towers in teh area. Said there was nothing currently happening that would have caused the entire network to go down and that we aren't even close to 800 SMR deployment (which pisses me off because Sprint coverage inside my office is horrible, while verizon I can get a strong 1x, 3g and LTE (my work phone and air card are all verizon)).
Same thing happened to me a while back, nothing worked, but I was roaming. It lasted for a few days, then when it started working again, I got LTE.
Same thing going on around Philly suburbs. Calls dropping like crazy and horribly slow 3g. When lte is turned on for good, does 3g go back to normal, or stay slower than the 1x speeds I get in some places?
prob tower issues it happens.. has nothing to do with sprint
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thlinx said:
prob tower issues it happens.. has nothing to do with sprint
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if its sprint's tower issue, then it has everything to do with sprint
since its their towers
flex360 said:
if its sprint's tower issue, then it has everything to do with sprint
since its their towers
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no its not sprints fault its the vendors fault
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no its not sprints fault its the vendors fault
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Lolololol
So do we go ask the vendor to fix their towers?
It's Sprint's responsibility to make sure it deals with good vendors and that they maintain the towers well.
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prob tower issues it happens.. has nothing to do with sprint
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How so when Sprint's internal diagnostic tools show the tower is functioning properly (in respect to the Sprint network)?
Its possible that your area is getting 1900 network vision upgrades, which knock you out for about a week.you don't really notice the lte install because you don't have the service, but you are dependent on 1900 for voice so its not pretty. Our area just got the upgrade and we had a lot of unhappy customers, I couldnt call or text for about 6 days. I'm off for a few weeks or I would check it out for you.
No issues
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So if I am scheduled to get LTE in my area soon, what kind of behavior would the network show?
I get crappy 3G almost everywhere, where every time I try to do anything, the 3G indicator goes dark and I get a network error. Whenever I get an LTE signal, it's usually a namesake, and I get knocked down to 3G. In select spots at select times, I get super duper slow 3G: around 90kbps. Sometimes 200. VERY few times, I get around 2 megs on LTE. That only lasts a little while.
I'm scheduled to get LTE this month. When should I expect decent coverage? All the threads in the International forum about gigs of data have me PUMPED!
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Lolololol
So do we go ask the vendor to fix their towers?
It's Sprint's responsibility to make sure it deals with good vendors and that they maintain the towers well.
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Towers go down. Power goes out, internet goes down.
These things happen. You call Sprint, you let them know. Even if they tell you everything looks good on their end, if they get 5 calls about the same tower, they'll send out an engineer.
Expecting 100% uptime is absurd.
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So if I am scheduled to get LTE in my area soon, what kind of behavior would the network show?
I get crappy 3G almost everywhere, where every time I try to do anything, the 3G indicator goes dark and I get a network error. Whenever I get an LTE signal, it's usually a namesake, and I get knocked down to 3G. In select spots at select times, I get super duper slow 3G: around 90kbps. Sometimes 200. VERY few times, I get around 2 megs on LTE. That only lasts a little while.
I'm scheduled to get LTE this month. When should I expect decent coverage? All the threads in the International forum about gigs of data have me PUMPED!
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Normally you will just start to see 4g more often. You may some some minor odd behavior because they are up on the tower fooling around but it won't be a big outage. They do one site at a time, and once it's on it has to be tuned for optimal performance which takes a while too.
Sadly your 3g speeds are normal anymore, smart phones now days have completely overwhelmed the marginal capacity that evodo offers. Only thing they can do is to throw more RF carriers up but that can cause interface issues between cell sites and it can actually hinder performance. Areas that have complete lte toll outs do end up with much better 3g since the data hogs are now on lte, I can get about 1.5 down on 3g here where we have both lte and 1900mghz 3g network vision complete.
Same issues in Washington, DC for the Past 3 days. I sure hope its because they are upgrading the towers
Same thing happened in Houston a couple of days ago. One of the three towers in the area I work has been Network Vision upgraded, other two still in the works. Anywho, all of a sudden, no calls/texts for a span of about 20-30 minutes (longer/more in other areas). Sprint: "no issues reported in your area", I was: "yeah, I'm reporting one/some". Everything back to normal, for the time being, super-slow 3G (less than 100kbps). Thank goodness for Xfinity at home/work. I work for a preferred retailer and all we have been advised is that the upgrades are coming and will resolve and greatly improve our (Sprint's) network. Hopefully, the influx of money from the new owners will make it so. Nextel bandwidth/spectrum to be used for LTE, yes you'll need a new phone with correct radio.
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I havent read much of what's going on here just skimmed through but I would like to add what I've heard.
Lately we've been having a lot of iPhones come in with data issues. Not just the 5 but 4 and 4s as well. This week alone I've seen 6 myself. Before that... Maybe 1 or 2 everyone 6 months. It's rare. And today these people plus more have come back with a worse issue. They aren't getting reception anywhere. (I'm in Washington btw). So I called my nss support team and they said as of the 17th of July sprint has been getting way more aggressive with the network vision and the iPhone's are more sensitive to this update but other device will start experience these problems and it's going to get worse all over the state till about October. The eta is October.
Sprint wants to have this network vision finished by this year so it just makes sense it would be happening in other states also.
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I havent read much of what's going on here just skimmed through but I would like to add what I've heard.
Lately we've been having a lot of iPhones come in with data issues. Not just the 5 but 4 and 4s as well. This week alone I've seen 6 myself. Before that... Maybe 1 or 2 everyone 6 months. It's rare. And today these people plus more have come back with a worse issue. They aren't getting reception anywhere. (I'm in Washington btw). So I called my nss support team and they said as of the 17th of July sprint has been getting way more aggressive with the network vision and the iPhone's are more sensitive to this update but other device will start experience these problems and it's going to get worse all over the state till about October. The eta is October.
Sprint wants to have this network vision finished by this year so it just makes sense it would be happening in other states also.
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You should have access to glance, it will tell you which sites are being upgraded and ETA's for lte and 3g nv. You have to be a lead or SM to access it.
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You should have access to glance, it will tell you which sites are being upgraded and ETA's for lte and 3g nv. You have to be a lead or SM to access it.
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Would be awesome to get this info for Tallahassee fl
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Spotty 4g lte

Just got the One, coming from s2, and love this phone. However I'm on Sprint lte now, and get very spotty coverage. It constantly switches from3g to lte, sometimes no data at all.
Of course this is a sprint issue, but is there a Rom or other ticks that may help get more consistent lte connection?
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Not really. I had to lave Sprint after being with them for 11 years due to my phone(s) not getting calls and poor network performance. In Dallas they really messed up big with Network Vision updates. Just my opinion.
Doesnt matter what hardware or software your on if the network is the problem your phone wont make it better.
Untill they get a handle on the system issues its not going to get better.
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Not really. I had to lave Sprint after being with them for 11 years due to my phone(s) not getting calls and poor network performance. In Dallas they really messed up big with Network Vision updates. Just my opinion.
Doesnt matter what hardware or software your on if the network is the problem your phone wont make it better.
Untill they get a handle on the system issues its not going to get better.
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#Truth
I regret leaving Tmobile. But hey, I hope that with a Tri-Band LTE enabled phone...things should be better. At least in the near future.
centro714 said:
Just got the One, coming from s2, and love this phone. However I'm on Sprint lte now, and get very spotty coverage. It constantly switches from3g to lte, sometimes no data at all.
Of course this is a sprint issue, but is there a Rom or other ticks that may help get more consistent lte connection?
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Random question, but are you using a case on your phone? If so, what kind?
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It's been going on for me since the beginning of July. It's not your phone, it's the awful network. The network has gotten so bad here, my local new station did a story on it since so many people were complaining. Normally I'm not a fan of stuff like this cause the media tends to exaggerate but in this particular case it's as bad as they say. I can have the tower in site and my phone will dump between X/1X/3G/LTE. Constant dropped calls, cutting in & out, unusable data, etc. I have been with Sprint for over 10 years & the network is literally unusable as it stands. It has been getting better over the last few weeks but it's still awful. I can understand some disruptions in service but this has been an ongoing thing for months with no end in site. Poor planning on Sprint's part. As far as LTE being spotty, until LTE gets turned on 800 it's going to be garbage. HTC one doesn't support LTE over 800 which at the moment doesn't matter since it's not on yet but I'm hoping by the Spring new hardware will be out & LTE on 800.
centro714 said:
Just got the One, coming from s2, and love this phone. However I'm on Sprint lte now, and get very spotty coverage. It constantly switches from3g to lte, sometimes no data at all.
Of course this is a sprint issue, but is there a Rom or other ticks that may help get more consistent lte connection?
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if your on a sense rom, ##data#, click edit, enter MSL (if you dont have it, sprint should give it to you), you will see LTE settings and LTE scan settings, (dont remember exactly what they're called) Lower both those numbers to like 30 and 5 or something like that, it will scan more often and while connected to LTE should stay connected longer on a weaker signal....there is a thread on it somewhere...

M8 vs S4 radio

So, today I have been comparing my M8 against my work phone which is a S4 also on Sprint. Needless to say I'm a little upset. I do not have LTE at my house and haven't felt like leaving so all my tests have been done on 3G/WiFi.
I'll start off by saying I don't get the best 3G at my house but with multiple speed tests and downloading the same file on both devices at the same time the S4 continuously finishes much faster.
On WiFi in the same spot in my house on the S4 I will get 30mbps+/30mbps+ and on the M8 at best I get around 14mbps down.
I downloaded a 1GB file from
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/download.html
On both phones at the same time. On the S4 it finished in 7 minutes and on the M8 it was only at 5% complete. I didn't even let it finish.
I have also noticed at my house if I am on LTE/CDMA mode (even when using WiFi) I will get the X above my Signal bars showing that my signal dropped. I don't seem to have this problem if I switch it to CDMA only.
I am rooted running the newest firmware, S-OFF, and BadSeed 2.0
Is anyone else having this behavior with there phone compared to another older phone? Maybe I have a defect.
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Samsung has always had better radios than HTC. My M8 is MUCH better than my M7 was at holding 4G. Sprint's LTE signal sucks in most places, I'm hoping 800 LTE will fix that. One thing I always do with a new device is remove the proxy that is in place. That can help with speed. I don't think the S4 should be that much better. Download signal check make sure when you are running the test you are doing them at the same signal levels. To remove the proxy you will need your MSL, dial ##3282#, edit, advanced, RTSP/HTTP setting erase the IP's and port put 0 in then back out and reboot the phone and try again.
I belive the signal bars when in Cdma/lte mode shows the lte signal instead of the cdma signal which could explain the x on your signal bars. But yes mine sucks on that mode. I don't get any calls or texts coming thru unless I'm on cdma only.
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Sim-X said:
Samsung has always had better radios than HTC. My M8 is MUCH better than my M7 was at holding 4G. Sprint's LTE signal sucks in most places, I'm hoping 800 LTE will fix that. One thing I always do with a new device is remove the proxy that is in place. That can help with speed. I don't think the S4 should be that much better. Download signal check make sure when you are running the test you are doing them at the same signal levels. To remove the proxy you will need your MSL, dial ##3282#, edit, advanced, RTSP/HTTP setting erase the IP's and port put 0 in then back out and reboot the phone and try again.
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My proxies were already set to 0. I have signal check on both phones they are both reporting almost the exact same numbers. But, what I don't get is why the WiFi is significantly worse. All Speed tests on WiFi show at least 50% slower on the M8 and I am manually setting the server to make sure its testing on the same servers. All servers show the same trend with 3G and WiFi.
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It seems if I have both phones right next to my router theywill both pull about the same 45/35. If I am down stairs the M8 significantly drops off while the S4 is still pretty strong although they are within about showing around 4dBm of each other.
Surprisingly I just got 1.65mbps down on the M8 on 3G and .92mbps on the S4. Then they both went below .10 on the next test. I guess it is just to hard to tell right now but it does seem the S4 is doing better 90% of the time. I will have to do some more tests in other locations and on LTE. I can get LTE less than a half mile from my house but not at my house both phones do always show connected to LTE first thing in the morning but it drops immediately as did my S3.
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I would check for interference from neighboring networks. Are using 5G band for wifi? I have had no issues with wifi on this phone or my m7. However I do use the 5Ghz band with 802.11 ac with a nighthawk R7000. Samsung has always had better radios from my personal testing but again shouldn't be as much as your are having. Maybe try and get a hold of another M8 and see but I'm sure yours is fine. Any problems with calls or text is most likely related to circuit switch fall back which is a tower issue. To my surprise CSFB has worked perfect for me so far on my local towers. I was expecting all kinds of problems since my area has been so bad since last summer. So far it has worked rather well. Give that time to get fixed.
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Sim-X said:
I would check for interference from neighboring networks. Are using 5G band for wifi? I have had no issues with wifi on this phone or my m7. However I do use the 5Ghz band with 802.11 ac with a nighthawk R7000. Samsung has always had better radios from my personal testing but again shouldn't be as much as your are having. Maybe try and get a hold of another M8 and see but I'm sure yours is fine. Any problems with calls or text is most likely related to circuit switch fall back which is a tower issue. To my surprise CSFB has worked perfect for me so far on my local towers. I was expecting all kinds of problems since my area has been so bad since last summer. So far it has worked rather well. Give that time to get fixed.
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I don't think what band I'm using on WiFi should really play a factor in this. Either way you look at it the S4 is doing significantly better.
I have also tested it on LTE now, the S4 does 30%-60% better. For example on Speed test app both connected on the same server at the same time S4 will get 12mbps down and M8 only 6mbps and this is in an area with working Spark. According to Signal Check where I did this test the S4 ranges from around 4-10dBm better
I don't know anyone with a M8 so I might just goto a Sprint store and test mine against one on display.
I am almost half tempted to trade it in for a S5 even though I really like this phone.
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Well I was finally able to find a store with an M8 to exchange mine for today (last M8 at a Best Buy within 50 miles). I haven't been able to do too much tests but my WiFi is 100% better so I am happy now. I guess I did have a defective phone.
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mikeregister said:
So, today I have been comparing my M8 against my work phone which is a S4 also on Sprint. Needless to say I'm a little upset. I do not have LTE at my house and haven't felt like leaving so all my tests have been done on 3G/WiFi.
I'll start off by saying I don't get the best 3G at my house but with multiple speed tests and downloading the same file on both devices at the same time the S4 continuously finishes much faster.
On WiFi in the same spot in my house on the S4 I will get 30mbps+/30mbps+ and on the M8 at best I get around 14mbps down.
I downloaded a 1GB file from
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/download.html
On both phones at the same time. On the S4 it finished in 7 minutes and on the M8 it was only at 5% complete. I didn't even let it finish.
I have also noticed at my house if I am on LTE/CDMA mode (even when using WiFi) I will get the X above my Signal bars showing that my signal dropped. I don't seem to have this problem if I switch it to CDMA only.
I am rooted running the newest firmware, S-OFF, and BadSeed 2.0
Is anyone else having this behavior with there phone compared to another older phone? Maybe I have a defect.
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Where are you getting LTE in Riverside ? The only LTE I found was around In-N-Out near Madison, the In-N-out off of Van buren and Clay, and downtown. Riverside is dead compared to the OC and LA counties .
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Where are you getting LTE in Riverside ? The only LTE I found was around In-N-Out near Madison, the In-N-out off of Van buren and Clay, and downtown. Riverside is dead compared to the OC and LA counties .
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I actually live in Moreno Valley. There Is a decent amount of LTE here.. not sure what's going on in Riverside.
mikeregister said:
I actually live in Moreno Valley. There Is a decent amount of LTE here.. not sure what's going on in Riverside.
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Oh then nvm. The weather and LTE are not doing well in Riverside I guess.

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