Hi guys!
As the title the question is: Buy xperia z or wait for a new sony device?
REASON (from my point of view) FOR BUY XPERIA Z
1) Are 5-6 months that i don't have a smartphone... I think I really need one, the summer is coming.. there are a lot of advanges of having a smartphone, It's useful in a lot of situation.
2) I tried to search an used phone, for having maybe social and some useful apps with me, that help me wait.... something not too expensive (around 50 euros), but nothing (its a month that I search on the web)... I don't want to waste money!
3) some other small reason
REASON FOR WAIT (always from my point of view)
1) I will buy a smartphone, and I'll have to use it for at least 6-7 years... so much better it is , maybe much time could survive
2) I read a lot of news about a new sony device that could arrives in autumn... it is better in everything, I mean faster processor, bigger battery, new screen, new and i hope better camera, new UI...
3) I love take pictures, and i feel the less of a smartphone...if it is really a cameraphone, I'll try to wait ... ( i know, the camera of xperia z is good, but have some bugs when opening, saving...or maybe it's just a whim!!)
4) some other small reason
Try to help me please! everything is accepted : tips, solucions, votes....
and thanks all
Wait for Xperia i1 (Honami,One Sony)
Expected to be unveil on September IFA 2013
It has 5" Full HD screen and Sony's TRILUMINOS Display
20MP Camera with Cyber-shot,Exmor RS,HDR,Carl Zesis,Dual Xenon Flash,1080p
Quad Core 2.3GHz
2 or 3 GB RAM
Dust And Water Proof
Battery 2700 to 3000mAh
Wait for that...
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fraliup said:
Hi guys!
As the title the question is: Buy xperia z or wait for a new sony device?
REASON FOR WAIT (always from my point of view)
1) I will buy a smartphone, and I'll have to use it for at least 6-7 years... so much better it is , maybe much time could survive
2) I read a lot of news about a new sony device that could arrives in autumn... it is better in everything, I mean faster processor, bigger battery, new screen, new and i hope better camera, new UI...
3) I love take pictures, and i feel the less of a smartphone...if it is really a cameraphone, I'll try to wait ... ( i know, the camera of xperia z is good, but have some bugs when opening, saving...or maybe it's just a whim!!)
4) some other small reason
Try to help me please! everything is accepted : tips, solucions, votes....
and thanks all
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1) Smartphones don't survive that long, you'll most probably get a new one each 2 to 3 years max.
2) If you could wait till the autumn then I'd suggest to do so.
A faster processor doesn't have to make it better, it also consumes more of your battery.
The camera of the xz isn't bad at all and I really doubt that they will make a new sensor for the new phone (Even though I heard that it will have a 20mp camera, which will mean a new sensor). In that case you wil have the same problems as the XZ. It will take time for Sony to optimize the software to the hardware, which will give you bugs.
You will always have bugs so you shouldn't worry about that.
Bigger battery: probable
Better screen: probable
3) Take a look at the pictures I made:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41689369&postcount=357
Don't mind the evening pictures, I used the wrong settings back then...
4) If you wait longer, you can also save more money to buy the phone when it comes out. I also thought about selling the XZ and then buy the new phone, but we'll see then.
The XZ isn't a bad phone at all, so don't get me wrong there even thought I gave you reasons to wait.
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hi i spoke to vodaphone and the xperia2 deliver date has been put back as they have software issues withit and they might even withdraw it
turnerhall said:
hi i spoke to vodaphone and the xperia2 deliver date has been put back as they have software issues withit and they might even withdraw it
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You can't be serious!
SE delaying a release, shocking!!!
I'm sorry for the sarcasm but SE has NEVER released a device on time, EVER.
who the hell cares
honstly i dont know why sony should bother. i for one dont really care anymore if it ever gets released
they did not bother fixing the the biggest issue with the x1 (the extremely poor performance). they just added more performance sucking features like the winmo 6.5, new applications/customization and 8,1 camera and kept the same slow driverless QC7200 528mhz chipset] just to guarantee that it will lag even more than the X1. after seeing the HD2 performance and comparing it to every "fast" 6.5 rom on the x1. it becomes evident that anything less than snapdragon is just not worth it anymore on highh-end phones
and then there is the problem of ~700euro price. please SE spare us your crap. the omnia pro has been available for several months now and it has better specs (AMOLED 3.5 screen,800MHZ, compass, samsung build quality (not the unproven mobinovva quality) and its less than 400euros
and dont even get me started on the lack of XDA-devs support which is probably probably the reason why i haven't regretted buying the X1
if i were you, id just use the X1 untill a suitable replacement like the tpro3 (i dont think SE will ever release the x3 since i dont expect them to do well with the x2). if you cant wait that long just get the hd2 now. i did not miss the HW keyboard with that 4.3" capacitive screen
yea dont go for the x2, its not worth it, or even for the tp2 for that matter. The only thing the new phones really have on the X1 is a bigger screen and accelerometer which to me isnt that big a deal. Not worth another 300- 500$ for a slightly upgraded device anyway...
I doubt that you will see any significant performance gains with any of the new WM devices from SE or HTC using the same MSM7200 ****. I plan on hanging onto my x1 another 5 months or so (or at least until the housing completely breaks) hoping something better rolls along, or I can get my hands on an X10.
1. who care when they can be ported to x1
2. what does this have to do with rom devolopment of xperia. if u wana post it, atleast do it in the right section....either xperia genereal or off-topic
cheers
I say this should be moved to xperia general subforum
Well, seems like they've had issues with all the newly released phones lately (as in Satio and Aino), so not surprising they'd have issues with X2.
their half hearted [email protected] entering the windows mobile market have failed miserably in my opinion. the X1 and x2 were delayed because of software (that no one really care about). almost all cooked roms have tf3d and most roms dont have any of SE unpracticle crap like the useless panels and the very untouch friendly interface.
i think sony may have a chance of not failing if they change the hardware to snapdragon but thats very unlikely because SE are simply not capable of doing such task at such short notice. i dont see the point of releasing x2 with the slow CPU even if they reduce the cost there is just not enough interest.
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Well, seems like they've had issues with all the newly released phones lately (as in Satio and Aino), so not surprising they'd have issues with X2.
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Played with Satio at the mall today, it was not up to my expectation.
looks like sony ericssons gonna lose a lot
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_aino_pulled_out_from_uk_stores_just_after_satio-news-1286.php
matthewpapa said:
yea dont go for the x2, its not worth it, or even for the tp2 for that matter. The only thing the new phones really have on the X1 is a bigger screen and accelerometer which to me isnt that big a deal. Not worth another 300- 500$ for a slightly upgraded device anyway...
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I disagree
May I ask: currently, which windows phone has the better camera of all ??
To me, and considering Rhodium's toyish 3.1 MegaPix camera, Diamond2/Topaz's bring-your-flishlite 5 MegaPix camera, and HD2's "viagra effect" 5 MegaPix camera, the X2's 8 megapixels camera alone is reason enough to upgrade from X1 to X2
Just my oppinons after 2 weeks using the X2 camera for a daily basis (my cybrshot is busy accumulating dust in my room)
PS: THIS FORUM NEEDS ACTIVE MODS. THIS THREAD SHOULD BE MOVED TO THE GENERAL SUB.
HEY WE DESERVE MODS TOO HERE @ HTC'S BASTARD SIBLING (kovsky) FORUMS !!
i will definitely buy the X2 if it is available now in local market ... and for lower price
Hd2 is a wonderfull phones, but have too many isuues, no tv-out, non videocall, really bad camera, price too hight, and ...its too big.. Xperia x2 have no one of this problems.. i will go for x2 if this one day will come..
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Hd2 is a wonderfull phones, but have too many isuues, no tv-out, non videocall, really bad camera, price too hight, and ...its too big.. Xperia x2 have no one of this problems.. i will go for x2 if this one day will come..
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i agree
for me as X1 user the X2 is an must-have.....
here my points why i want to have it:
1. CPU seems to have full power now and not throttled to 400MHz
2. camera (i would bet its the module from C905 so i expect great quality)
3. 3.2" display is absolute perfect size (big enough to use finger and not too big so i can reach the whole screen with one hand and thumb)
4. no dust-collecting edge on display
5. best battery lifetime of all WM devices like X1 before (with TP2 together strongest battery but smaller display)
6. stereo speaker with hopefully great sound quality (some people compared it with W995, Nokia 5800 ams Samsung i8910 (i also own the nokia and the samsung)
7. a much better keyboard than the X1 (but X1 keyboard was already very good for me)
8. Amazing, smooth animated tilewave panel i tested on my X1
9. panels are very useful for me (on the road, tilewave, WM Homescreen, SPB Mobile shell, Facebook i use very often) and damned fast now also on X1
10. the great continous support with 48h repair warranty
that are 10 reasons to by the X2 for me and these reasons are worth the 510€ in switzerland for me........
and to the "slow" CPU:
what do you expect from snapdragon???? only that start menu scrolling is smoother than with MSM7200????? damned guys think about it!!!! the only reason for snapdragon would be to play high res 3D games with iPhone graphics...... but when do you think such games will come????? the game developers have to spend more ressources in game developement like xtract which works perfectly with the 7200 hardware...... or what would you say if you have to buy a PC with a 1000€ CPU to play a game on PC doesn't support hardware accelleration????? and for alle other usages the X1 was already fast enough and if you use the Touch HD video converter from the Blackstone thread you can also watch 800x480 videos smooth on X1!!!!!
and a last thing:
the X2 is the inly actual device with this complete hardware bundle and qwerty keyboard and with SE quality on the market....... and these Omnia Pro ****???? i have the first omnia and its slower and more laggy than my 5800 nokia crap and the omnia 2????? i read some test reports and it is the same **** like the one before...... Samsung is too silly to make good wirking and useful software for its devices and SE does this much better almost on the 2nd run!!!!!
EDIT: ah sry for my bad english i'm from germany ;-)
I agree completely with Jerpelea and others who like the X2. I was thinking of going in for an HTC HD2 but am now not so sure. I need a keyboard and a good camera and enough real estate to read ebooks and browse the web comfortably. It seems the X2 will be able to do all these things well. As for Snapdragon, many reviews of the HTC HD2 have complained about the "lagging" and the terrible battery life. I guess it all boils down to what you want a device for.
in Italian shops x2 will arrive 7 december
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in Italian shops x2 will arrive 7 december
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hmm i talked to SE X2 support one our ago and they said the X2 is shipped to german sellers since middle of last week......
expansys switzerland and germany sais the date is today...... hmm pressing both thumbs.....
I'm going to buy a new phone. I don't know what to go for. I'm between those two. Can You tell me all the good and bad things?
Take a look on youtube or google, but so far i know, i make the general chat for nothing i think, to ask your questions and stuff over there.
Best Regards
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If you want i cell my sg3 to buy one xperia t.
I've cell my xperia S one week ago for the sg3.But i want to return to Sony.For sure we don't have a lot of dev's for sony, in sg3 developement there is a lot.
It's all time the same think with sony divices.
But i like Sony.
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sessel said:
If you want i cell my sg3 to buy one xperia t.
I've cell my xperia S one week ago for the sg3.But i want to return to Sony.For sure we don't have a lot of dev's for sony, in sg3 developement there is a lot.
It's all time the same think with sony divices.
But i like Sony.
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You're getting one more in short.
Moving from Samsung Galaxy S III to Sony Xperia T.
codeworkx said:
You're getting one more in short.
Moving from Samsung Galaxy S III to Sony Xperia T.
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Luckers!!
I myself a S3 user might try out Sony for the first time ever! if I see some nice reviews from people I like to hear from.
And depends on its price locally
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cube76 said:
I'm going to buy a new phone. I don't know what to go for. I'm between those two. Can You tell me all the good and bad things?
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It's a vast topic and I've only had my Xperia T for a couple of days, so I can't properly quantify battery life just yet, but here goes.
Overall, I'm going to say, "no, the Xperia T isn't better than the S III." The S III is, for me, a more complete package. That's not to say that the Xperia T is bad, not by a long shot, but it doesn't feel so all-encompassing as the S III. The S III wins on points rather than a knock-out, but from the top...
The Xperia T's screen is beautiful. It's sharp and responsive and has BRAVIA. The Samsung's screen feels overly saturated, but it's also a beautiful one. I've found the S III's screen to be a little bit more responsive than the T but I prefer the Sony colours.
As far as performance and feel go, both feel fluid and responsive and both will very occasionally jerk or stutter, but the S III does it that little bit less than the Xperia T. I feel like I'm splitting hairs here. It isn't a deal breaker for me.
The S III's camera is very impressive indeed. I was a little disappointed with the Xperia T's camera; more pixels, but not set up from the factory to be so fast. With some tweaking (enable touch take) it's much better, but when working with images, the Xperia T is noticeably slower. Sure. Fewer pixels to shunt around memory and a more capable processor (depending how we measure it...), but this is where the Xperia disappoints me.
What they look like is personal preference, but at the moment there are way more cases and accessories for the S III compared with the Xperia T. The S III is much thinner, the Xperia T is more comfortable to hold than the Xperia S and as great as the S III - but this is as much down to personal preference as anything. I don't much mind for soft buttons or real buttons, both work just fine (and I adapt between them).
It feels like a moot point, but I don't like Samsung's default keyboard one bit. I use SwiftKey 3 and I use it on both devices, so nae bother the big yin as you can change it. Likewise with ICS you can disable junk you don't need, but the Xperia T comes with more stuff on there that I don't need.
For me, it comes down to speed. The Xperia T is a fast and fluid handset, but the S III feels that little bit quicker and more fluid. If you've used neither then you probably won't feel that big of a difference.
Hopefully that helps. The Xperia T plays the value card and it's a decent handset, but the key strength of the camera feels just a little bit hamstrung by the device being slower than the Samsung flagship.
Hi guys
Loved my Xperia S but returned it due to problems(screen) within 30 days from amazon. I have the galaxy s3 (New upgrade) but its going back for the Xperia T, the hardware on the s3 is great, still not sold on Amoled screen though, love the software on the Sony, Xperia T arrives on Monday hope I've made the right decision glad Sony now allow micro sd or wouldn't of bothered.
The Xperia T feels really solid compared to the S3 which feels cheap.
It's having an very unique and great look.
Sony's software is so much better than overbloated Touchwiz.
It's not having 1000 features added like Touchwiz, but i'm not using that stuff anyway.
I prefer clean software. Everything is where you would expect it.
Sony's software is mature and not childish like Touchwiz.
No annoying sounds and colors.
I'm really impressed.
http://imgur.com/a/L0L1E#0
http://imgur.com/a/3UFdr#0
But anyway, it has to go away for CyanogenMod.
codeworkx said:
The Xperia T feels really solid compared to the S3 which feels cheap.
It's having an very unique and great look.
Sony's software is so much better than overbloated Touchwiz.
It's not having 1000 features added like Touchwiz, but i'm not using that stuff anyway.
I prefer clean software. Everything is where you would expect it.
Sony's software is mature and not childish like Touchwiz.
No annoying sounds and colors.
I'm really impressed.
http://imgur.com/a/L0L1E#0
http://imgur.com/a/3UFdr#0
But anyway, it has to go away for CyanogenMod.
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wowoww.. thanks a lot bro!
cant wait to listen to your progress about cm on xperia t
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codeworkx said:
The Xperia T feels really solid compared to the S3 which feels cheap.
It's having an very unique and great look.
Sony's software is so much better than overbloated Touchwiz.
It's not having 1000 features added like Touchwiz, but i'm not using that stuff anyway.
I prefer clean software. Everything is where you would expect it.
Sony's software is mature and not childish like Touchwiz.
No annoying sounds and colors.
I'm really impressed.
http://imgur.com/a/L0L1E#0
http://imgur.com/a/3UFdr#0
But anyway, it has to go away for CyanogenMod.
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Grats on your new toy codeworkx
Would love to hear you opinion regarding the phone snapyness and response plus battery consumption compared to the s3.
The shipped ROM looks decent and people can live with it tbh not like ****wiz.
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Bought Xperia T
I bought today Xperia T. I've tried S3 for a week. It is really difficult to say wich one is better. My choice was Sony because... I like Sony.
Size, Apps - personal preferences
Speed - very close
Quality - both very good
Buttons - I like S3 main button, but I've missed camera button even more
Battery - Hard to say. I was using both phones a lot, and i don't say any bad words about any of them. But You can't use a spare battery with Sony. But I never used any spare one with any other phones.
Only one big thing for Samsung. DEVELOPERS.
cube76 said:
I bought today Xperia T. I've tried S3 for a week. It is really difficult to say wich one is better. My choice was Sony because... I like Sony.
Size, Apps - personal preferences
Speed - very close
Quality - both very good
Buttons - I like S3 main button, but I've missed camera button even more
Battery - Hard to say. I was using both phones a lot, and i don't say any bad words about any of them. But You can't use a spare battery with Sony. But I never used any spare one with any other phones.
Only one big thing for Samsung. DEVELOPERS.
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Developers - hopefully not for long...
codeworkx said:
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Okay, I am completely sold. Getting the T. Next week. CAN'T WAIT !
Just swapped Galaxy s 3 for Xperia T a few days ago.
Pros:
1. The Software is way better on the Xperia T. Love the task manager with small apps. Xperia link with my Xperia tablet s is a god send.
2. Dedicated Camera button is a must for decent photos.
3. I prefer the colours of the Xperia Ts Screen.
4. The speaker quality is brilliant in calls and movies.
5. Headphone sound quality is richer.
6. Phone is sturdier and feels like a premium product.
7. Keyboard has better sensitivity.
8. PlayStation gaming coming soon, rumoured full wireless dual shock 3 support
9. GPS lock on is fantastic. Really quick and gets it even inside my house.
10. The Xperia T gui is just as smooth as the galaxy s3 and the speed is just as fast in loading and running apps bar some intensive games.
Cons:
1: Games run better, more smoother on the s3 (on really demanding games)
2. Development/community is better on s3
3. Looks like the s3 has jellybean first
4. No burst mode on the Xperia T camera?
5. So far battery life seems better on the s3 but that may be as im hammering the Xperia T as its new.
6. More official accessories available on the S3, where are the Xperia T official cases?!
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What about smoothness compared to the S3? And speed obv.
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The gui is just as smooth and just as fast at loading apps
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jkr284 said:
Just swapped Galaxy s 3 for Xperia T a few days ago.
......
Cons:
1: Games run better, more smoother on the s3 (on really demanding games)
2. Development/community is better on s3
3. Looks like the s3 has jellybean first
4. No burst mode on the Xperia T camera?
5. So far battery life seems better on the s3 but that may be as im hammering the Xperia T as its new.
6. More official accessories available on the S3, where are the Xperia T official cases?!
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For the cons I've highlighted above I'd say that they are obvious due to the fact the S3 has had a good few months to build this developer base and also for retailers to release accessories. Only way to do a like for like is give the phone x more months and then compare how the S3 is now to how that is in the allotted time. If you look at the S3 after a week from release date all the available ROM's/mods/accessories weren't there straight away it took time to build up. For these reasons none of these are cons for me
Oh and I'm also looking at the Xperia T as my next phone in November unless Google makes an exciting announcement on the next Nexus phone/series by then.
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Unless AT&T locks the bootloader, I'm likely to get a TL - which is almost exactly identical to the T.
Only thing is I kind of want to wait for the next Nexuses... But I'm kind of thinking of using my XDA ERD perk to get the TL and then personal cash for a Nex.
davidsteele1975 said:
It's a vast topic and I've only had my Xperia T for a couple of days, so I can't properly quantify battery life just yet, but here goes.
Overall, I'm going to say, "no, the Xperia T isn't better than the S III." The S III is, for me, a more complete package. That's not to say that the Xperia T is bad, not by a long shot, but it doesn't feel so all-encompassing as the S III. The S III wins on points rather than a knock-out, but from the top...
The Xperia T's screen is beautiful. It's sharp and responsive and has BRAVIA. The Samsung's screen feels overly saturated, but it's also a beautiful one. I've found the S III's screen to be a little bit more responsive than the T but I prefer the Sony colours.
As far as performance and feel go, both feel fluid and responsive and both will very occasionally jerk or stutter, but the S III does it that little bit less than the Xperia T. I feel like I'm splitting hairs here. It isn't a deal breaker for me.
The S III's camera is very impressive indeed. I was a little disappointed with the Xperia T's camera; more pixels, but not set up from the factory to be so fast. With some tweaking (enable touch take) it's much better, but when working with images, the Xperia T is noticeably slower. Sure. Fewer pixels to shunt around memory and a more capable processor (depending how we measure it...), but this is where the Xperia disappoints me.
What they look like is personal preference, but at the moment there are way more cases and accessories for the S III compared with the Xperia T. The S III is much thinner, the Xperia T is more comfortable to hold than the Xperia S and as great as the S III - but this is as much down to personal preference as anything. I don't much mind for soft buttons or real buttons, both work just fine (and I adapt between them).
It feels like a moot point, but I don't like Samsung's default keyboard one bit. I use SwiftKey 3 and I use it on both devices, so nae bother the big yin as you can change it. Likewise with ICS you can disable junk you don't need, but the Xperia T comes with more stuff on there that I don't need.
For me, it comes down to speed. The Xperia T is a fast and fluid handset, but the S III feels that little bit quicker and more fluid. If you've used neither then you probably won't feel that big of a difference.
Hopefully that helps. The Xperia T plays the value card and it's a decent handset, but the key strength of the camera feels just a little bit hamstrung by the device being slower than the Samsung flagship.
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I appreciate this unbiased comparison.
I want to upgrade from my Galaxy S2 soon and i am tempted by the Xperia T,
I played with an instore demo and it felt slightly slower then the S3 in store demo. It could of been because of every single timescape widget running lol.
i wanted to remove the widgets and reset the phone but i think the store would frown on that.
So it's only a little slower and may lag/stutter slightly more?
The screen - the timescape interface is so dull it doesn't do it justice. I watched a demo video showing sea life etc and it was incredible. Yet Gsmarena tested the phone and it's viewing angles and contrast ratio is below that of the iphone 4 (a 2 year old screen). that was disappointing. Now i don't know what to think
But it's so much more comfortable in the hand...i know i will drop the S3!
I personally find it quicker than my S3 in day to day use, chrome also runs a lot better.
So I'm finally buying a new smartphone and I'm in dilemma between those two.
Xperia SP has better performance but has worse screen and bad camera compare to T. And I really need good camera I also read that good amount of SP phones have touchscreen problem and I really don't want to take new phone to a repair even if it's a 5 min job. I don't play games that much on my phone, maybe sometimes but that's not my primarly usage.
So, which one should I choose ? Any help is appreciated
Thanks in advance !
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So I'm finally buying a new smartphone and I'm in dilemma between those two.
Xperia SP has better performance but has worse screen and bad camera compare to T. And I really need good camera I also read that good amount of SP phones have touchscreen problem and I really don't want to take new phone to a repair even if it's a 5 min job. I don't play games that much on my phone, maybe sometimes but that's not my primarly usage.
So, which one should I choose ? Any help is appreciated
Thanks in advance !
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I am a SP user now. My previous phones are Xperia P, Xperia S, and Xperia T.
Comparing with T , camera is better than SP. Only Camera. Trust me.
Other wise SP is much much better than T. And the Touch Screen Problem. Its there when u connect ur phone to a pc via a USB cable. The screen goes crazy. Means u cant use that. May be a software update will solve the issue. And no problem with Wall Charger.
U will get latest software updates too for SP
and if u are a Camera Lover no other way, Go with T. other wise SP
I had the same dilemma. I chose SP because of much better battery... The camera in SP seems to be a joke. Im not a big camera lover, so i'll probably stay with SP, but if you need a camera which does at least average photos - I'd say SP isnt the best choice.
(excuse me for my bad english)
Hey Guyes
i'm Buying a smartphone next week and really so confused i don't wanna buy a phone then regret , i decided to choose between this two great phones Galaxt N3 and Xperia Z1 let me tell you what i need the phone for :
1- Social* * * *
2- Capturing photos* * * * *
3- Music* * *
4- Gaming* *
5- Browsing (in neccessary) *
"*" in terms of importance
is there a big difference in photo quality between two devices especially in natural photos and night modes ?
i heard the Xperia z1 screen isn't colorful compared to Note 3 screen is that true ?
i don't want a fighting replays between two owners i need a specific reasons to choose a one
please help me in choosing and thank you for reading my thread
Regards
You should be able to get enough information from all the topics and threads, read around and decide for yourself what you prefer.
* Camera, people love it and people hate it
* Screen, people love it and people hate it
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Ask the same question in the Note3 forum and get completely different answers.
Only you can decide if it's worth your money, it was worth mine (Camera is fine for me, wat is 'sociall'... it makes calls, sends whatsapps and I can check facebook, I can listen to music... it's not HTC one but good enogu, etc. But I'm sure the note3 would be too.
dagrim1 said:
You should be able to get enough information from all the topics and threads, read around and decide for yourself what you prefer.
* Camera, people love it and people hate it
* Screen, people love it and people hate it
etc...
Ask the same question in the Note3 forum and get completely different answers.
Only you can decide if it's worth your money, it was worth mine (Camera is fine for me, wat is 'sociall'... it makes calls, sends whatsapps and I can check facebook, I can listen to music... it's not HTC one but good enogu, etc. But I'm sure the note3 would be too.
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already did but the Similarities between two devices make me confused anyway can u use the phone undersun without any disturbing of suns rays ????
jakkahf said:
already did but the Similarities between two devices make me confused anyway can u use the phone undersun without any disturbing of suns rays ????
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I live in the Netherlands, we don;t have much sun here But so for no problems, just turn auto brightness on (or pump up brightness) when in sunny conditions.
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I live in the Netherlands, we don;t have much sun here But so for no problems, just turn auto brightness on (or pump up brightness) when in sunny conditions.
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good solution lol , what about the heat? , i saw alot of complains about the device heating in gaming ! , usually when i play games i don't play more than half an hour so will i find this issue ???
I moved from s2 and love this phone. Screen is good, camera suits me and I play spacerpg all the time. It dowager hot if I play games when charging but I am more than happy with it.
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jakkahf said:
good solution lol , what about the heat? , i saw alot of complains about the device heating in gaming ! , usually when i play games i don't play more than half an hour so will i find this issue ???
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Dunno, don't play games on my phone but yeah... It'll most likely get hot. It's a freaking fast phone, this generates heat. All phones tend to get hot when playing gamas afaik.
jakkahf said:
Hey Guyes
i'm Buying a smartphone next week and really so confused i don't wanna buy a phone then regret , i decided to choose between this two great phones Galaxt N3 and Xperia Z1 let me tell you what i need the phone for :
Regards
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1. The problem we humans face are often not the lack of options, but knowing what to choose. If N3 did not exist you would be happy with Z1. Both phones are excellent.
2. The absolute recomandation: N3. It has GOOD software on release. Sony might have **** camera software on superb hardware - or the opposite. We just don`t know, yet.
If you are fond of tweaking and taking manual photos (at least for a while) the Z1 will suit you just fine. After the firmware update there is a little improvement. But: if you do have the pockets to fit the N3 I see no reason for not buying it.
Still in doubt: At the moment GSM arena gives you an honest opinion.
I`m really weary about the camera, but still have the Z1 because of pocketability - and a camera that is OK.
jakkahf said:
Hey Guyes
i'm Buying a smartphone next week and really so confused i don't wanna buy a phone then regret , i decided to choose between this two great phones Galaxt N3 and Xperia Z1 let me tell you what i need the phone for :
1- Social* * * *
2- Capturing photos* * * * *
3- Music* * *
4- Gaming* *
5- Browsing (in neccessary) *
"*" in terms of importance
is there a big difference in photo quality between two devices especially in natural photos and night modes ?
i heard the Xperia z1 screen isn't colorful compared to Note 3 screen is that true ?
i don't want a fighting replays between two owners i need a specific reasons to choose a one
please help me in choosing and thank you for reading my thread
Regards
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Both phone's are great. Screen is better on the Note3,
Photo's- Hard to say Samsung seems to be better at Software in this regard. I hate to say it but pictures from my Note1 that I took in new zealand look better than a lot of the pictures I've been taking with my Z1. Hoping things improve soon. I just seem to get a lot of noise with this Z1. FV5 is a great app and has improved my results but still expect more.
Music- I love the sony walkman app. I find it slick and love unlimited music. Sound quality will be similar.
Gaming will most like be draw as well. You don't see posted response time by either company. Both use the same snapdrogon800 unless you get the N3 with exynos,
Browsing will be the same as well. Depends on the browser you going to use.
I would say go to the store and play with them both- see which one you like.
Hi guys, I'll go straight to the point: I was thinking of exchanging my Xperia S for an Xperia T, paying about 30€. I have some questions for you owners, hoping you'll take a couple of minutes to answer me
T is more powerful, no doubt about that (actually I do have a doubt: does it have dual channel RAM like Xperia V or is it the same RAM as Xperia S? ). What I'm particularly interested in is:
- Camera -> Better? Worse? Same? Apart from those 13 MegaPixels, Sony sensors are always quite good, the problem is how Sony optimizes the software part (sometimes awfully, unfortunately). So... would I regret switching from S to T?
- Battery -> Neither T nor S have great battery life, this is actually well known. But how's battery life of Xperia T comparing to the one of Xperia S? I'm actually satisfied (enough) with my S... would I regret buying this T?
- Bugs & Problems -> Is there any terrible bug that I should be aware of? And in that case would I be able to solve it with a little modding?
- Last question: would you recommend me to change my S with a T for just 30€, or do you find it useless?
Thank you for your attention, hope to read you soon
I've got the T, my brother has the S, so I#ve had the chance to use both (at least a bit)
Feanor88 said:
- Camera -> Better? Worse? Same? Apart from those 13 MegaPixels, Sony sensors are always quite good, the problem is how Sony optimizes the software part (sometimes awfully, unfortunately). So... would I regret switching from S to T?
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About even. 1MP more doesn't matter (you won't notice such a small increase in pixels. A camera needs to have at least 25% more pxels to show a visible increse) - and since most of us don't print and most screens still show only 2MP the pixel increase is irrelevant.
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- Battery -> Neither T nor S have great battery life, this is actually well known. But how's battery life of Xperia T comparing to the one of Xperia S? I'm actually satisfied (enough) with my S... would I regret buying this T?
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Also: about even. You can get through a day with both with restricted usage, but heavy usage will drain both fast
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- Bugs & Problems -> Is there any terrible bug that I should be aware of? And in that case would I be able to solve it with a little modding?
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Not really a bug but an annoyance: the home/back buttons are softbuttons that take up screen real estate unlike the S, which has those buttons as sperate touch areas
Feanor88 said:
- Last question: would you recommend me to change my S with a T for just 30€, or do you find it useless?
Thank you for your attention, hope to read you soon
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I wouldn't upgrade. Maybe, if I knew I could sell the S for more than 30€ but otherwise: no. Not worth it
Camera MP count
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About even. 1MP more doesn't matter (you won't notice such a small increase in pixels. A camera needs to have at least 25% more pxels to show a visible increse) - and since most of us don't print and most screens still show only 2MP the pixel increase is irrelevant.
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I agree a 1 MP increase is irrelevant. Unless the increase goes in hand with a bigger pixel size, which usually means a bigger sensor. Even the opposite is true. Higher pixel count means higher pixel density which mean higher digital noise which means more software noise suppression which means more loss of detail!
The really relevant data would be the sensor size, and secondly pixel density. The same sensor size with 5 MP count would potentially deliver a far better quality, especially in low light conditions.
The useless counting of MP is the prove of marketing powers. Even when using the build in digital zoom, anything more than 10 MP in a hand phone or compact camera is looking good on the package description, but delivers no value to the consumer. Professionals seldom need more than 20 MP. They have much better sensors in their cameras, which are multiple the size of the toy sensor which is in a phone. The right feature in the Xperia would be a switch to connect two or three pixels to one unit, that would be a real improvement.
To the phone, wait for the next good offer. The differences are not earth shaking.
Feanor88 said:
Hi guys, I'll go straight to the point: I was thinking of exchanging my Xperia S for an Xperia T, paying about 30€. I have some questions for you owners, hoping you'll take a couple of minutes to answer me
T is more powerful, no doubt about that (actually I do have a doubt: does it have dual channel RAM like Xperia V or is it the same RAM as Xperia S? ). What I'm particularly interested in is:
- Camera -> Better? Worse? Same? Apart from those 13 MegaPixels, Sony sensors are always quite good, the problem is how Sony optimizes the software part (sometimes awfully, unfortunately). So... would I regret switching from S to T?
- Battery -> Neither T nor S have great battery life, this is actually well known. But how's battery life of Xperia T comparing to the one of Xperia S? I'm actually satisfied (enough) with my S... would I regret buying this T?
- Bugs & Problems -> Is there any terrible bug that I should be aware of? And in that case would I be able to solve it with a little modding?
- Last question: would you recommend me to change my S with a T for just 30€, or do you find it useless?
Thank you for your attention, hope to read you soon
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Yeah the biggest reason I could see to upgrade is the increased screen size it's a lot nicer to use then a 4.3 and maybe the build of the LT30A is one is one of the things that made me fall in love with this phone when I was buying it but other then that and maybe the small apps I can't see a reason to upgrade just wait till something better comes out.
Thanks for your replies. I actually specified that I know those "13 MegaPixel" means nothing: that's why I was asing users about the camera quality, because I can't just rely on that number
Apart from that, I'm just willing to change because the Xperia T design is one of my favourite ones, plus it will still receive support from Sony. I'll probably go through a serious change in march/april 2014, but for now I'm just a bit tired of the S (though I'm quite satisfied with it).
Thank you anyway for your opinions, hope to read more from you
Feanor88 said:
Thanks for your replies. I actually specified that I know those "13 MegaPixel" means nothing: that's why I was asing users about the camera quality, because I can't just rely on that number
Apart from that, I'm just willing to change because the Xperia T design is one of my favourite ones, plus it will still receive support from Sony. I'll probably go through a serious change in march/april 2014, but for now I'm just a bit tired of the S (though I'm quite satisfied with it).
Thank you anyway for your opinions, hope to read more from you
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Good reasons! The T will receive JB 4.3 update very soon and will probably be updated to 4.4.
nreuge said:
Good reasons! The T will receive JB 4.3 update very soon
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This month
and will probably be updated to 4.4.
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This is still just speculation as there is no word from Sony about this
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This is still just speculation as there is no word from Sony about this
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Actually 2 words : "Under investigations"
From a development point of view it would make much more sense to take the T over the S. The T is getting an official 4.3 update (maybe even 4.4) and the S isn't. Developers are currently doing fantastic things with the T from solid stock ROMs like Hybrid and Miui to super fast and smooth 4.4 ROMs such as OmniRom. They are doing so much on old kernels and software. Imagine what they'll be able to do once the T gets 4.3 or 4.4.