Was wondering if someone sells me a phone and i use it with my sim card for lets say a month and then that persons skips on their ATT bill would ATT put a bad IMEI out on my phone or the phone that they have activated on their account before skipping
If the phone is still under contract...then yes it might be possible...
Swiftb12305 said:
Was wondering if someone sells me a phone and i use it with my sim card for lets say a month and then that persons skips on their ATT bill would ATT put a bad IMEI out on my phone or the phone that they have activated on their account before skipping
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Depends on how they sold it to you, if they sold it to you and changed the IMEI before-hand, then the system will not show them owning that phone anymore, even though it was the phone under contract.
The way ATT works, if you swap the IMEI once it will have the other in memory, but any subsequent after that replaces the other, but even then, it won't check that other one, now, I haven't worked there in about a year, but at the time, they still did not have a system to block IMEI's,you could use the same IMEI on 20 accounts without issue.
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Depends on how they sold it to you, if they sold it to you and changed the IMEI before-hand, then the system will not show them owning that phone anymore, even though it was the phone under contract.
The way ATT works, if you swap the IMEI once it will have the other in memory, but any subsequent after that replaces the other, but even then, it won't check that other one, now, I haven't worked there in about a year, but at the time, they still did not have a system to block IMEI's,you could use the same IMEI on 20 accounts without issue.
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thanks for the info.
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I was on a 5.99 data plan on iphone and switched to the g1. Recently, i noticed my internet was no longer working. Today i took out the battery and sim to clean the phone and when i put it back in, it says "no sim" when there is already a sim card.
I am able to go inside the phone and do everything, but it says no sim. I also made sure i put the sim back in right.
Can t-mobile shut down ur service if you don't have a data plan from them?
How can i bypass this?
Can they, probably. Will they, well you are kind of bypassing the system. Did they, call and find out why your phone says no sim, or go to the store.
Sounds like you broke something while cleaning. I don't think T-mobile has the ability to make your SIM unreadable OTA.
well the sim works fine on my samsung phone
uansari1 said:
Sounds like you broke something while cleaning. I don't think T-mobile has the ability to make your SIM unreadable OTA.
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Your carrier can block your IMEI, they only do that if the phone is stolen or something.
To the OP, your SIM's probably broken. Go to a Tmo store and they should be able to transfer your number to a new one (that will probably take a few days).
if there is somthin wrong with the sim, then how is it that it works on my samsung t819
nevermind, i went online, logged onto tmobile, changed my phone to some cheap one and tried again and it worked, not sure wat was the issue
and today when I was looking into unlocking my phone, I noticed that the system IMEI is different from the IMEI label on the back of the phone.
I am using a deep shining ROM. did the ROM flash over the IMEI or was my phone just messed up to begin with?
also is there a soft method of finding out whether or not my phone is already unlocked?
Sorry to say but that guy messed your over by changing the IMEI. Flashing a rom doesn't do anything to IMEI, special tools and software CAN change it, and that is what this guy did. You can't do anything to change that, as changing IMEI is downright illegal and you dont want to get caught up in that.
As for finding out if its unlocked, take another companies SIM CARD, ie if you are with ATT, go and get a Rogers, or whoever else uses a SIM CARD, and find out if it will work in the phone.
so, it is quite possible that this phone is stolen? damn... what are the potential consequences of that? if he switched the original IMEI to the current one that I have, what if someone legitamately uses the imei on the same network, am I going to be screwed?
SUBLIMINALLYINC said:
so, it is quite possible that this phone is stolen? damn... what are the potential consequences of that? if he switched the original IMEI to the current one that I have, what if someone legitamately uses the imei on the same network, am I going to be screwed?
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No you will not get screwed. {Unless you really want to; then I'm sure we can arrange for it}
IMEI {International Mobile Electronics Identification} Numbers are uniqe to every phone, but the network does not {& I believe Cannot} read the IMEI. ESNs {Electronic Serial Numbers} are a different thing, as the CDMA networks use this # to Identify the devices network authenticity {in other words: Whether or not it's authorized to use the network}. GSM {Global SIM Management} Phones rely on the SIM card to authenticate the devices access to the network. An IMEI is never sent thru the network! That's like posting your social security # online {Mine's 420-69-840} About the only time that a false IMEI is a problem, is when you need to get it unlocked {as you are trying to}; or if you need to report it stolen/lost. If the latter is the case then you will need to provide the authorities with both IMEIs. This is in case the person that has it removes the label in the back. For unlocking the device, you need to give the # that's in the software; as this is the only # the phone knows. Oh yeah, You can't send it in to get HTC warranty service either
Have you tried asking the person you bought it from about this? I would!! I would want to know why he did it, how he did it, & where the other # came from. It is a possibility that he had replaced the Mainboard with another unit, but he should have changed the labels at the same time. I have done this with a few phones {combine a couple bad ones to make a good one}, but I always ensure the IMEI or ESN matches on the back & in the software! If you believe you were defrauded, then contact the authorities & explain it to them. If there is another phone with the same IMEI, they should be able to tell you.
It might either be that he changed the main board or the cover itself.. (hopefully he did not steal it..)
I wouldnt worry too much about it though. Just go with the IMEI that is displayed on your screen not on the back of the phone.
well i tried to get an unlock code by using the IMEI read off the system page on my diamond and the guy couldnt get aan unlock code; is there anyother way to get the correct code>?
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so, it is quite possible that this phone is stolen? damn... what are the potential consequences of that? if he switched the original IMEI to the current one that I have, what if someone legitamately uses the imei on the same network, am I going to be screwed?
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Hi,
Maybe it is or it isn't (but it is possible). It depends on which country that person bought this phone and maybe he used warranty service. I had this issue myself.After 2 month My Diamond didn't recognize my simcard, i sent it for warranty and when it came back GPS didn't work. so i sent it again , when i received it, at repair center they said that they replace mainboard, so imei changes and i received written document that they replaced mainboard (my back panel imei and the imei that phone shows are different now).
for checking it , Goto this site : http://www.numberingplans.com/?page=analysis&sub=imeinr
enter both imei and check them, if both are for diamond i think your mainboard is changed before, but if the imei that phone shows is belong to another handset (for Ex : a nokia one or another htc model) i can say 99% percent your phone is stolen.
i'd probably bet he's bought an "original" housing from auction site. i've done it many of times but i usually rip the imei sticker off, bear in mind the imei on the diamond is only on a metal plate, he may have forgot to change this part, he may have damaged his old imei sticker/plate, as stated above he may have changed his main board also, there is many possibilities.
don't worry about it, if your still a bit worried try the CheckMEND online service here:
http://www.checkmend.com/uk/
It costs £1.99 per go, (which you'd want to do both imei's) but you get a certificate telling you wahts dodgy or not about your phone.
it a great service if you feel a little worried.
Well, I sold my Glalaxy Nexus to finance a new Galaxy Note N7000. I have read many stories of AT&T being jerks about this phone (not tablet, BTW) classifying it as a tablet and forcing users to a tablet only (non-voice) plan. Mine gets here this Monday and I paid dearly for it, so I want to ensure I set it up properly to avoid the unethical pressure AT&T will place on me if I set it up out of the box without making any changes. Here are my questions:
Should I immediately root and delete the EFS folder (after backing up) so AT&T doesn't flag it as a tablet?
Should I set up APN settings and use as normal, hoping they don't spaz and flag as a tablet?
Should I just put my SIM in and go, praying I don't get illegally harassed for having a tablet (when it's simply a phone with a large screen)?
It seems AT&T has their head up their asses and execs are calling this phone a tablet, making them even more money-hungry. I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan and use like 2 gigs a month. It's not like I got the Note with the intention of consolidating my entire gadget lineup and use it as a tablet, consuming terabytes of data. It just has a pen and large screen and well under the typical tablet size of 7". It's a large pocketable cellphone and I want to use it as such, just as I have with tons of other imported GSM phones.
So, what's the 100% reliable method to avoid the shady accusations AT&T will inevitably place on me if I just put my SIM in and use it with the expensive service I already have.
It really is a shame they are being assholes about this device.
Is "pray" a choice?
Sorry, couldn't resist. Seriously, what I was planning to do (I almost did this last night but I've chickened out) was:
1. Buy AT&T service with another device - I was looking at the captivate glide, as a backup device in case the Note gets stolen, dies, or AT&T renders it useless. I always "self-insure" with a backup phone on any carrier, and this way I get a 4G SIM card and bona-fide service for 30 days to try out.
2. Obtain the Note from Amazon, Newegg, etc., root the device, mv /efs to /efs_old or something like that. Reboot, whatever is needed for that to take effect. Also copy /efs_old somewhere else safe.
3. Set APN according to various posts here and at Amazon, etc.
4. Insert SIM, hope for the best.
That was my plan, anyway. I think doing that, the major risk is that the generic IMEI is flagged as bogus.
Thanks. So it sounds like it's still a craps shoot as to whether AT&T will tackle you accusing you of using a tablet.
Shame, really. Wish me luck.
I put my sim into the phone, changed my apn settings, and called att to confirm that no changes were made to my plan. Everything works fine getting HSDPA data connection.
niv24 said:
I put my sim into the phone, changed my apn settings, and called att to confirm that no changes were made to my plan. Everything works fine getting HSDPA data connection.
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How long have you been using it? I'd bet there is a threatening text is queued up for you to go out any time now...
I got my Note tuesday i changed the APN settings put in my sim, haven't heard a word out of AT&T on the phone I just looked at my account online and I still have my unlimited data, nothing has changed. I'll update if they contact me.
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I got my Note tuesday i changed the APN settings put in my sim, haven't heard a word out of AT&T on the phone I just looked at my account online and I still have my unlimited data, nothing has changed. I'll update if they contact me.
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Thats what I did and it lasted a month before they sent me a text.
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Thats what I did and it lasted a month before they sent me a text.
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After you got the text, what did you do?
I don't see why AT&T should care, other than being a better device this is the same thing as the Dell Streak.
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After you got the text, what did you do?
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I called and told them what the phone was and they said ok and all was good untill the 14 days laster they shut my data off.
After 3 hours on the phone with them 6 reps/ managers they asked for my IMEI number then told me that it did not show up so they could not turn my data back on. Finally they just entered a fake IMEI number on my acount and turned my data back on. Will see how long that works.
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I don't see why AT&T should care, other than being a better device this is the same thing as the Dell Streak.
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But they clearly do care, and that's the problem.
Right after I got the phone, I rooted it and deleted some files from the efs folder (see my old post), entered 4g APNs, rebooted
No text. It's been 5 days tho.
I have 4g Unlimited grandfathered to my Infuse 4g.
If I am on a tiered plan with AT&T, do I still need to root or can I just install my sim and it will just work like it did on my iphone?
Ok, My old SGS3 finally gave up the ghost and I purchased a Z3c. I trimmed the SIM card from my SGS3 to fit the Z3c, booted up setup the phone and am on LTE (At&T) able to make voice calls, send and receive sms, check voicemail etc...
I noticed when I log into my ATT account page online it shows a generic phone picture now instead of the SGS3 picture it used to. What benefit do I gain from calling in my new IMEI number? I ask because for the moment everything appears to be working great... and if there is no strong negative to not updating my IMEI I was wondering why do it (as I assume they may attempt to hit me with an upgrade fee or I have read a few threads on other sites about how when they provided the new IMEI suddenly LTE or other service issues cropped up that weren't there when using the old IMEI...)
Thanks for any responses that might be helpful in allowing me to understand why I should update it or why it may or may not be important (pro's and con's)
At&t doesn't care about the IMEI change, if things are working well, including LTE, then just leave it as is.
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At&t doesn't care about the IMEI change, if things are working well, including LTE, then just leave it as is.
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Thanks, sounds simple enough and it was sort of what I thought! Now on to more important things...like figuring out what case to get that works with my DK48 charging dock
If you did not get ur phone from them there's no need to do it. I think it's only required on iPhones because Apple always has a way to make activating everything harder.
I called AT&T and went to 1 of their authorize offices and got a LTE sim card and everything works great. If you already have a IPhone that sim card has LTE enable. So don't worry about it...
I've had a T-mobile Nexus 6 on Verizon network since Thanksgiving. I've had no problems at all UNTIL today. Woke up and my network symbol has an exclamation point next to it and when I try and make calls it sends me to Verizon's customer account services. Also, a dropdown bar with the words "sign into network" appear. After clicking on it it sends me to the Verizon's broadband page.
Anybody else have this problem and no what to do? Wanna run this by before I call and navigate customer service.
Edit: My account is fully paid and up to date
Try reinserting the sim card and reboot with WiFi off. Otherwise you might need a new activated nano sim.
Its weird that it'd suddenly become deactivated though. That would suggest they cut you off intentionally.
mordrukk said:
Try reinserting the sim card and reboot with WiFi off. Otherwise you might need a new activated nano sim.
Its weird that it'd suddenly become deactivated though. That would suggest they cut you off intentionally.
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Yeeup. I've tried a factory reset and exchanging the sim. I put my wife's micro sim in and it deactivated her whole account. Verizon did this on purpose and I'm not happy. I've been using this phone for 3 months with NO problems
So any sim inserted to your N6 has the associated account deactivated? What did Verizon support say when you called them?
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So any sim inserted to your N6 has the associated account deactivated? What did Verizon support say when you called them?
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Okay, so I called Verizon and the tech could not get my phone activated. She said the phone number on that account wasn't working. While this was going on I randomly checked my EMEI number on Swappa and my phone was just reported Stolen/blacklisted! Although I bought on CL unopened in box with triple-checked clean ESN. I've used it for almost 3 months with no issues and a clean ESN. I even registered it through Motorola's website. I am beside myself. I didn't say anything to the tech because she was determined to get it working and I didn't want to be like "oh hey, yeah by the way I just realized this phone is reported stolen".
Well, it is still not working and tech pretty much gave up. So I'm gonna go down to Verizon and see if there is another workaround. I don't know if this is the reason it isn't working, but all evidence says so.
Anybody have any ideas on if this phone can be used again? Am I screwed?
That's sucks how that can happen. I to bought my nexus from someone and I sure hope he doesn't do the same thing. They should see one you activate it and use it for a period of time. Then all of a sudden reported stolen, that is a scam.
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Haha! Figured it out.... Finally got to a tech who knew what was up. I'm on a family plan and unbeknownst to me my inlaw had an ipad stolen and reported it to Verizon, which in turn deactivated and reported device stolen. BUT, instead of reporting just the ipad, they reported the phone too. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But the tech fixed it.
I told him it up front it wasn't a verizon "branded" device, that I cut my micro sim card down to fit it and he said no problem he would get it working....AND he did.
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I'm having exactly the same symptoms as you mentioned, but on Swappa my IMEI comes up clean. I've talked with Google, Motorola (source for my N6), and Verizon. This happened right after a *611 call related to a billing issue. The sim in the phone is a microsim cut from my S3. Worked for about a month, then boom. Finally talked to someone last night that "fixed" my issue, but it's flaky and temporary at best. The tech support person activated my phone as my old S3 somehow, but it does seem to work. One of the other Verizon techs put in a service request to add my IMEI to the Verizon database, but it was denied because of differences between the firmware/software on the Verizon N6's making mine "not safe" to be on their network. I'm looking for a long term solution. Every time I jump off WiFi I get the aforementioned network exclamation point and then it comes back. I'm wondering if the phone had Verizon's firmware version if they'd activate it? I think my IMEI is blacklisted?
I didn't want to start a new thread since this is similar.
Hoping I didn't break any other rules. Any help would be greatly appreciated.