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My Bionic will arrive on Monday. Of my 4 other Android phones, I have rooted/rommed the last 3 with great results. I am comfortable with the idea, and welcome anything that enhances the experience. However, I am used to running on bottom tier phones. Rooting/Romming is a nice option, but is it necessary on the Bionic like it was on my Eris? Does the Bionic handle well out of the box?
it does very well out the box but things are always better with root IMO
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My Bionic will arrive on Monday. Of my 4 other Android phones, I have rooted/rommed the last 3 with great results. I am comfortable with the idea, and welcome anything that enhances the experience. However, I am used to running on bottom tier phones. Rooting/Romming is a nice option, but is it necessary on the Bionic like it was on my Eris? Does the Bionic handle well out of the box?
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My Bionic is my 4th Android phone and the only one I haven't rooted and may never root. Its solid out of the box. Fast as heck. To be honest I did root it once for a few hours to play with the dpi but I decided to unroot and stop tinkering with it. Part of the reason I chose this phone was because I wasn't planning on rooting or roming and wanted a solid out of the box experience. I'm running LPP on top of blur and loving it.
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My Bionic is my 4th Android phone and the only one I haven't rooted and may never root. Its solid out of the box. Fast as heck. To be honest I did root it once for a few hours to play with the dpi but I decided to unroot and stop tinkering with it. Part of the reason I chose this phone was because I wasn't planning on rooting or roming and wanted a solid out of the box experience. I'm running LPP on top of blur and loving it.
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Agreed. Best out the box phone ever.
Gotta admit, the new blur launcher kinda grew on me
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Agreed. Best out the box phone ever.
Gotta admit, the new blur launcher kinda grew on me
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Yeah I wish ADW had this blur feature on it.
I had lots of hardware problems with my thunderbolt (the reason I have this phone) but it ran better stock than the bionic. I agree that the new blur isn't as bad as it use to be it still slows these phones down. I would root and debloat at least, however I prefer a ASOP style Rom as they are the fastest.
Rezanow said:
My Bionic will arrive on Monday. Of my 4 other Android phones, I have rooted/rommed the last 3 with great results. I am comfortable with the idea, and welcome anything that enhances the experience. However, I am used to running on bottom tier phones. Rooting/Romming is a nice option, but is it necessary on the Bionic like it was on my Eris? Does the Bionic handle well out of the box?
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After 22 months of the Eris -17 months rooted - I bought a Bionic last week and decided to run it stock for as long as possible (and definitely as long as the 14 day return period) - including the stock launcher, which isn't fantastic, but not awful. Anyway, the phone is fine out of the box, as it is. Besides the annoyance of seeing the pre-loaded apps that I do not want, including the occasional market update of those apps, the Bionic is fine.
So far no black screen of death (BSOD) for me; I'm on WiFi most of the time, but I've seen a few 3G data dropouts out and about (where I KNOW that 3G data is fine), but none since I followed this trick: http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid-bionic/421050-useful-how-tos-tips.html#post3271941
(Note that this "trick" makes no sense - it's changing the default speech codec. But, no 3G data dropouts that I have noticed since I did it, so....)
As far as I know, rooting fixes neither of those problems, though perhaps I missed something. I think that we're just waiting for a fix from Motorola/VZW.
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After 22 months of the Eris -17 months rooted - I bought a Bionic last week and decided to run it stock for as long as possible (and definitely as long as the 14 day return period) - including the stock launcher, which isn't fantastic, but not awful. Anyway, the phone is fine out of the box, as it is. Besides the annoyance of seeing the pre-loaded apps that I do not want, including the occasional market update of those apps, the Bionic is fine.
So far no black screen of death (BSOD) for me; I'm on WiFi most of the time, but I've seen a few 3G data dropouts out and about (where I KNOW that 3G data is fine), but none since I followed this trick: http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid-bionic/421050-useful-how-tos-tips.html#post3271941
(Note that this "trick" makes no sense - it's changing the default speech codec. But, no 3G data dropouts that I have noticed since I did it, so....)
As far as I know, rooting fixes neither of those problems, though perhaps I missed something. I think that we're just waiting for a fix from Motorola/VZW.
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On my Eris, I found KaosFroyo (Punk.Kaos was a great dev!) and ran with that for a LONG time. Made using the Eris bearable.
Thank you all for your replies! I am looking forward to getting through this weekend! =)
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I had lots of hardware problems with my thunderbolt (the reason I have this phone) but it ran better stock than the bionic. I agree that the new blur isn't as bad as it use to be it still slows these phones down. I would root and debloat at least, however I prefer a ASOP style Rom as they are the fastest.
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Wow, I came from the same phone and my experience is completely opposite. In fact my stock Bionic runs better than my thunderbolt overclocked. Applications like LPP and car home run noticeably faster. Also Blur has a closer to aosp feel than htc sense does. I too like an aospish experience.
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The best out of the box phone I ever had was the Galaxy S 2 for AT&T. This phone is pretty good stock.
what I did though immediately is root the phone (which is the easiest i have done since the captivate) and used an app from the market to remove the bloat apps.
other than that i replaced the launcher after a week and replaced the sms (both with "Go" products) and it runs great.
It's not the processor, the screen, or the battery that makes this phone. It is the LTE and i wouldnt trade that for an LTE-less galaxy s 2 ever.
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Wow, I came from the same phone and my experience is completely opposite. In fact my stock Bionic runs better than my thunderbolt overclocked. Applications like LPP and car home run noticeably faster. Also Blur has a closer to aosp feel than htc sense does. I too like an aospish experience.
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LPP is inconsistent, on both my Droid X and T bolt it would work on some roms but it was really sluggish on others, even on updates of the same roms. I switched to go launcher because it has what I like from LPP and haven't had a problem since. With the right roms the Tbolt didn't need overclocking, with BAMF stripped and Forever 1 ghz was just as smooth as the same rom overclocked to 1.4 ghz, most other roms needed to be clocked at 1.2 or 1.4 ghz to be as smooth as those roms at 1 ghz.
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MarcMaiden said:
The best out of the box phone I ever had was the Galaxy S 2 for AT&T.
It's not the processor, the screen, or the battery that makes this phone. It is the LTE and i wouldnt trade that for an LTE-less galaxy s 2 ever.
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But it's AT&T and their LTE network is a joke.
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LPP is inconsistent, on both my Droid X and T bolt it would work on some roms but it was really sluggish on others, even on updates of the same roms. I switched to go launcher because it has what I like from LPP and haven't had a problem since. With the right roms the Tbolt didn't need overclocking, with BAMF stripped and Forever 1 ghz was just as smooth as the same rom overclocked to 1.4 ghz, most other roms needed to be clocked at 1.2 or 1.4 ghz to be as smooth as those roms at 1 ghz.
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But it's AT&T and their LTE network is a joke.
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LPP isn't inconsistent on the Bionic. I ran every tbolt rom imaginable. OMFGB and CM7 were the only ones that compared speed wise. As talented as the BAMF devs are, sense is still sense, heavy and sluggish. By the way, bamf stripped 1.7 was my all time fav tbolt rom and the BAMF devs are my favorite devs.
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Newb question (and one I am likely going to groan that I should have known the answer to): What is "LPP"?
Rezanow said:
Newb question (and one I am likely going to groan that I should have known the answer to): What is "LPP"?
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Launcher pro plus
filthy1 said:
Launcher pro plus
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/facepalm
I've been using that for a LONG time now. I should have known...
Speaking of... How do you all feel about the competing home screen replacements?
I have owned almost every Droid to come out and I used to use lpp or,adw but for some reason I have left everything pretty much stock on my bionic save for one percent battery
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I have owned almost every Droid to come out and I used to use lpp or,adw but for some reason I have left everything pretty much stock on my bionic save for one percent battery
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Ok, another newb question... "One percent battery"?
Moto defaults to 10% increments on the phone. So if your at 36% it shows you at 30%. 1% means it will show your ar 36% not 30%
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Moto defaults to 10% increments on the phone. So if your at 36% it shows you at 30%. 1% means it will show your ar 36% not 30%
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Is that something changed in the settings, or an app?
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Is that something changed in the settings, or an app?
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Zip file in development.
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Psych. I'm not leaving. I just haven't seen anyone make one of these posts about the spectrum so I wanted to do it for ****s and giggles.
Be patient. I'm sure we will get more development when ice cream is released on the bionic.
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Psych. I'm not leaving. I just haven't seen anyone make one of these posts about the spectrum so I wanted to do it for ****s and giggles.
Be patient. I'm sure we will get more development when ice cream is released on the bionic.
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i was going to say....of all the phones you picked the spectrum?
haha
it has the hardware but all the previews made it look laggy
I went the store yesterday to check it out, it was very solid. Love the screen and it very solid built. It wasn't laggy at all compared to the CES demos videos.
If you recall, the early bionic previewed real laggy too...
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I had the LG revolution with its unlocked bootloader and hated it. I will never buy another LG again.
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honestly im about to go with other phone and the lg spectrum is my first choice.it could be laggy but is unlocked. I really started to hate my bionic and i about to throw it against the floor.This phone sucks!!!!
By the way im not blaming, complaining about any dev.Actually i think they are making an excellent work here.
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smokedkill said:
I had the LG revolution with its unlocked bootloader and hated it. I will never buy another LG again.
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I absolutely love mines when I have it running on
gingervolt 1.3
overclocked it to 1.5 with blitzkrieg 1.0
v6 superercharger rc4 script
some build prop mods
adrenaline shot v13
ics responsive tweaks
disable bytecode
I'm also getting 3900+ on antutu and 3000+ on quadrant
It's also very stable no screen freeze, no lag, no reboots, and it don't get that hot
I get 8hrs on stock battery heavy use, light - medium usage 10 - 15 hrs
Then I got the bionic for xmas so I gave it to a friend and she loves it too
Recently I helped her overclocked it to 1.9 with blitzkrieg 2.1 and she's getting 4200+ on antutu and 3400+ on quadrant
Battery took a hit though but still good enough to last her through 8hrs light - medium usage
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honestly im about to go with other phone and the lg spectrum is my first choice.it could be laggy but is unlocked. I really started to hate my bionic and i about to throw it against the floor.This phone sucks!!!!
By the way im not blaming, complaining about any dev.Actually i think they are making an excellent work here.
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Have you tried the 901 update or the eclipse 2.1 rc rom for 901?
Also did you try to overclock?
I'm on eclipse 2.1 rc and overclocked it to 1188 with extended battery and I absolutely love it. I get 17+ hrs on a single charge with heavy usage
With the 901 update it totally fix all the issues I had when on 893
I use to have BSOD every other day and have to pull battery, data drop every few hrs and have to toggle airplane mode to get data back, screen freeze also have to pull battery, losing apps when move to sdcard
But once I did the manual update to 901 the bionic has been great for about a month and fixed all the issues I had mentioned above
I highly recommend doing the 901 update as i see it makes the bionic be the device it should of been
Then I flashed the eclipse 2.1rc rom with safestrap, it improve the responsiveness and battery
Lastly I overclocked it to 1188 and it was amazing with what the bionic can do now how much quicker it respond
Now I really don't mind waiting next year for my upgrade. Till then there will be quadcores galore with hd display and who knows what the intel will bring to the market after seeing what their medfield chip can do and new lithium batteries that's 5-10x better than what's available now.
Hopefully moto/vzw will update it to ics and unlock the bootloader
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I absolutely love mines when I have it running on
gingervolt 1.3
overclocked it to 1.5 with blitzkrieg 1.0
v6 superercharger rc4 script
some build prop mods
adrenaline shot v13
ics responsive tweaks
disable bytecode
I'm also getting 3900+ on antutu and 3000+ on quadrant
It's also very stable no screen freeze, no lag, no reboots, and it don't get that hot
I get 8hrs on stock battery heavy use, light - medium usage 10 - 15 hrs
Then I got the bionic for xmas so I gave it to a friend and she loves it too
Recently I helped her overclocked it to 1.9 with blitzkrieg 2.1 and she's getting 4200+ on antutu and 3400+ on quadrant
Battery took a hit though but still good enough to last her through 8hrs light - medium usage
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Gingervolt wasn't out yet when I had the revolution. People were still trying to figure out how to make custom boot animations and rom development came to a standstill until LG released gingerbread. I was the most disappointed that more rom developers didn't jump on it with its unlocked bootloader, which was the only reason I bought it.
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honestly im about to go with other phone and the lg spectrum is my first choice.it could be laggy but is unlocked. I really started to hate my bionic and i about to throw it against the floor.This phone sucks!!!!
By the way im not blaming, complaining about any dev.Actually i think they are making an excellent work here.
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LG revolution also had an unlocked bootloader but rom developers didn't jump on it. We actually got more roms with our locked bootloader than they do with theirs unlocked. Be careful what you wish for because sometimes its not.what you want.
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Even though there's only a few roms for lg revolution at that time " homeless, revolt, decrap " but it's all good roms like the bionic there's only few roms also yet all still good.
Now with 901 there's only 1 true 901rom which is the eclipse 2.1rc and 3 other compatibles like the eclipse 2.0, liberty 2.0, and ics beta
My friends have the htc thunderbolt and they have many roms but only few is stable most are nightly builts and betas so you gotta stay updated and keep flashing
Coming from LG revolution which have very limited devs I learned as long as there's still support on the phone they can find ways to make the phone better and from what I know some of the devs there working on porting cm7/9 also
There will always have new phones that cause devs to jump ship but as long as the phone still have 1-10 devs remain they'll keep working on it
I think once ics comes out to bionic most dev will jump back in just like the lg revolution when gingerbread came out there's more activity there
bhp117 said:
Have you tried the 901 update or the eclipse 2.1 rc rom for 901?
Also did you try to overclock?
I'm on eclipse 2.1 rc and overclocked it to 1188 with extended battery and I absolutely love it. I get 17+ hrs on a single charge with heavy usage
With the 901 update it totally fix all the issues I had when on 893
I use to have BSOD every other day and have to pull battery, data drop every few hrs and have to toggle airplane mode to get data back, screen freeze also have to pull battery, losing apps when move to sdcard
But once I did the manual update to 901 the bionic has been great for about a month and fixed all the issues I had mentioned above
I highly recommend doing the 901 update as i see it makes the bionic be the device it should of been
Then I flashed the eclipse 2.1rc rom with safestrap, it improve the responsiveness and battery
Lastly I overclocked it to 1188 and it was amazing with what the bionic can do now how much quicker it respond
Now I really don't mind waiting next year for my upgrade. Till then there will be quadcores galore with hd display and who knows what the intel will bring to the market after seeing what their medfield chip can do and new lithium batteries that's 5-10x better than what's available now.
Hopefully moto/vzw will update it to ics and unlock the bootloader
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thanks im going to give a shot to the eclipse 2.1 rom
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smokedkill said:
LG revolution also had an unlocked bootloader but rom developers didn't jump on it. We actually got more roms with our locked bootloader than they do with theirs unlocked. Be careful what you wish for because sometimes its not.what you want.
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You are right.i just get fustrated sometimes with locked bootloader last weekend i spent a whole day trying to unbrick my bionic. i had luck but i had a bad day too
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Seriously is this, what we can expect every-time a new phone hits the market !!!! "oh i think i am switching what do you guys think" just freaking switch already or go to the proper device forums and get advice from them we don't have the phone so we probably don't know much more than you do!!! Every week someone asks how about this phone come on man stop cludering our forums...
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Seriously is this, what we can expect every-time a new phone hits the market !!!! "oh i think i am switching what do you guys think" just freaking switch already or go to the proper device forums and get advice from them we don't have the phone so we probably don't know much more than you do!!! Every week someone asks how about this phone come on man stop cludering our forums...
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Yes, that is what we can expect so I made a joke out of it before someone did it seriously. I'm not switching my bionic anytime soon.
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Its a bit out of control
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Its a bit out of control
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I agree. I was kind of making fun of how every time a new phone is announced, we get these types of posts. Since things are slow, I decided to insert some humor into our community.
I believe things will pick up when ics comes around. I dont really have any issues with my phone so I'm able to be patient.
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Yes stock and I am pretty happy especially with 901 once a stable ics Tom is realesed I will definitely. Root then just wish it was closer than farther away
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Yes stock and I am pretty happy especially with 901 once a stable ics Tom is realesed I will definitely. Root then just wish it was closer than farther away
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For me, using stock is foreign. It just seems so un-android to me. But I've been rooting phones for 2 years now so rooting an android is second nature for me. Even if I'm not rommed up, I still need to root if only to get rid of bloatware. I support them putting bloatware on the phones, I just dont support them making it so you can't remove the bloatware without rooting. PCs have been putting bloat on for years but they let you remove it if you dont want it. I'm just wondering how many android users are stuck with let's golf on there phone just to never play it.
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For me, using stock is foreign. It just seems so un-android to me. But I've been rooting phones for 2 years now so rooting an android is second nature for me. Even if I'm not rommed up, I still need to root if only to get rid of bloatware. I support them putting bloatware on the phones, I just dont support them making it so you can't remove the bloatware without rooting. PCs have been putting bloat on for years but they let you remove it if you dont want it. I'm just wondering how many android users are stuck with let's golf on there phone just to never play it.
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Example fail. Lets Golf is the only piece of bloat you can uninstall without root.
Hi!
I recently updated my IS to the newest Android 4 and god, it's slow. There is lag everywhere, I click on a icon and it takes like a second for screen to appear. The previous version was much smoother.
I disabled the animations and it seems to helped a bit, is there anything else I can do? Or just revert to the older version?
Anybody else experiencing the same problem?
Thanks
Biges said:
Hi!
I recently updated my IS to the newest Android 4 and god, it's slow. There is lag everywhere, I click on a icon and it takes like a second for screen to appear. The previous version was much smoother.
I disabled the animations and it seems to helped a bit, is there anything else I can do? Or just revert to the older version?
Anybody else experiencing the same problem?
Thanks
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Thats a known problem with stock ICS
If you flash a custom rom, generally they are faster
for example I had Ice Cold for a few months, rock solid and super fast
I bought my incredible more than one year ago and I've never thought to unlock and go with custom rom until i got the last OTA. I was so disappointed i flashed Nik's project x almost the same day. You should really consider trying a custom rom. If you like stock appearance you could try android revolution HD i bet it will perform way better than stock ics
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Thanks for your confirmations!
I'll try a custom ROM then.
As for the appearance I use a custom homepage anyway.
After using CM7 for a while, which was great, I upgraded to IceCold 8.1.1. I found it slow and laggy. Then I updated to Official Stock ICS. Same. I updated the radio to the '11' version. Still the same. Now I am using Ice Cold 8.3. Still the same. I did full wipe, and restored apps with Titanium.
I am very frustrated. I want ICS, but I am thinking of going back to CM7.2. I should be happy with IceCold, but I'm not. Slow, laggy, and lots of 'not responding' messages. Facebook app is the worst - almost unusable.
Any ideas anyone? I have:
IceColdSandwich 8.3 Rossi
4EXT Recovery
Blackrose 2.02 S-OFF
Ice cold is not laggy for me at all
How long have you let the ROM settle before deeming it laggy?
What clock speed for CPU? And maybe try go to recovery and clear both cache an dalvik cache, and make sure to do that after every rom flash if you don't already
Just that most of us are having a smooth nearly flawless ICS experience, hard to think only you are having problems
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Guys try cool droid ROM, its the best and fastest Rom....
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@jcr67: It's funny how mine is the other way round. I mean I didn't use the stock ROM (or whatever it is called) and installed CM 7.2 as soon as I got my phone because I didn't like the stock UI at all and I had seen CM 7.2 running on DHD with my cousin so I was kinda impressed. I kept using it until I visited my cousin and comparing both the phones (play store, I had a topic on that) was just awful. My play store searching, loading, agreement would take ages. I had been trying lots of ROMs until I came across Ice cream sandwich ROMs and the speeds were great (Virtuous Vivo) but it was the stock UI again which got me bored. I, yesterday, came across a topic by Nathan about Incredible S ROMs and battery life and after reading each and every post, I knew IceColdSandwich is my next ROM or I am selling this ****. Then and now, this is the best ROM I tried till now. No lag, great UI (after theme installation that was in the topic itself, it's become even greater). The only problem I am having is with my battery life. I had this on other ROMs too. So all I can say is that I am more than just satisfied with this ROM.
Try reinstalling the ROM by after running the SuperWipe script (inside the Android Revolution HD ROM topic.)
Sorry for the long post.
Biges said:
Hi!
I recently updated my IS to the newest Android 4 and god, it's slow. There is lag everywhere, I click on a icon and it takes like a second for screen to appear. The previous version was much smoother.
I disabled the animations and it seems to helped a bit, is there anything else I can do? Or just revert to the older version?
Anybody else experiencing the same problem?
Thanks
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i have the same problem ..
could any one help how to return to official old Android ROM before 4.0. version ?
Update - It is getting better!
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Ignore my earlier comments, re IceCold.
I always clear dalvik, wipe etc, when installing. But I repeated this anyway, just to make sure. I let it settle down. It got better. And better. And now I have V6 supercharged it.
It's pretty great now.
Except for the battery life. I'm getting not much more than half a day, without doing much.
Usually I ensure that the following are disabled unless I really want them:
- WiFi
- Bluetooth
- GPS
- Vibration (keyboard)
- keyboard tones
- USB debugging
Optional: Automatic brightness turned off and set brightness to comfortable level
If you are overclocking it try to use it at usual clock speed. Overclocking consumes more battery.
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Except for the battery life. I'm getting not much more than half a day, without doing much.
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I started to use custom ROM after upgrade to ICS. Laggy, even.the apps & notification drawer also laggy.
for me the latest ota ics upgrade is quite good, just sometimes i can feel that things just dun get smooth enough, made my mind and tried few custom roms. Most of them are just really gud in term of performances and looks. Now im gud to go with ice cold rom, much better than official rom of course, and on the battery issue, just make sure u turn off anything u dun need when u dun need them
I find ARHD 3.0.1 with V6 Supercharger script properly installed (no KickAssKernelizer cos I want to wait for a custom kernel) and ultrasmooth rosie.apk to be a fairly smooth running experience.
Tip:
I've improved battery life and reduced common running temperature and hence increased performance/stability/speed by simply running GSM only instead of GSM/HSPA unless I'm in a good signal zone and want to browse data quickly. (I'm talking 2G/3G switching in the mobile network settings.. may not be labelled gsm/hspa in some ROMs). This is a good bet, especially when indoors. I live in a basement so signal drops are more steep for the higher frequency 3G signal.
This should be true for any ROM. Anywhere your data browsing is slow to heart-rendingly unusable.. should definitely save battery, reduce temp, and improve text and call reception to switch to GSM only!
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OK, I have a simple question: Is any ICS custom ROM as fast as the Gingerbread stock ROM? OR do I need to find a way do downgrade to Gingerbread? Which will be a pain in the bottom parts...
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OK, I have a simple question: Is any ICS custom ROM as fast as the Gingerbread stock ROM? OR do I need to find a way do downgrade to Gingerbread? Which will be a pain in the bottom parts...
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There's a thread about this guy enjoying ics as it speeds up the 3d performance.
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Biges said:
OK, I have a simple question: Is any ICS custom ROM as fast as the Gingerbread stock ROM? OR do I need to find a way do downgrade to Gingerbread? Which will be a pain in the bottom parts...
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I find project X to be really quick and doesn't seem to struggle with multiple apps running I.e spotify, Facebook and chrome.
Easy to flash too!
We Want ICS
For 'We Want CS' I still can see lag when open apps drawer & pull down notification. Anyway, its still better than OTA update.
markj338 said:
Thats a known problem with stock ICS
If you flash a custom rom, generally they are faster
for example I had Ice Cold for a few months, rock solid and super fast
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Dear markj338,
i'm new to this, i had same experience with the OTA ICS too, so bad.....
Can u guide me how to s-off , upgrade to icecoldsandwich 8.3.3 ?
Okay I just got a free Revo and currently have a Droid X. I want to use the Revo but the stock setup sucks, I want to root and get a stable/functional Rom on here. What Rom would that be? Also would I bide able to hack to use WiFi teather?
Thanks
There is really only one custom ROM for the Revo, called Broken Out. I'm using version 1.1, but there is a version 2 available. There seems to be mixed results with all versions for users. I think it works well of you don't overclock it and get things how you want then, then allow a few days for the system to kind of sort itself out. After that I recommend just leaving it alone and not doing constant tweaking. The Revo just doesn't like a lot of change for some reason. Also, for best performance and stability, try to leave about a gig of memory free and 100 mb of ram free by not having too many apps set up to constantly run. And yes, you can do wifi tethering. I haven't used it lately, but have used foxfi. It worked fine, but I believe they've changed it so that the free version only works for short intervals at a time now. I imagine there are better alternatives.
Thanks for the quick response, do you think it's worth switching from a RD.
I'm not sure I've come across that term. What's an RD?
The Kraken! said:
I'm not sure I've come across that term. What's an RD?
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Sorry an DX (droid x)
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Well, if you're really into customization, probably not. On the other hand, if 4g speeds are important to you, then yes. Also, though I don't know how much memory the DX has or how much you need, the Revo's 16 gigs of storage is a nice element as well.
I owned a DX and its a good phone no costomisability cuz of locked BL but the revo has a little more ram and a lot more memory that can be used for everything not just apps like the DX so yea there both pretty lacking in the SW development area but yea good switch at least my bro thinks so...
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I've been using the revolution for about one week now and although kagg
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Well I'm fed up with this Jelly bean garbage! For you that say certain ones (Liquid smooth seems common) are 'fast', you're only kidding yourself.
JB on the bionic is terrible. It lags and is buggy (on after market's at least). I give props to the developers who have spent time making it usable for the most part.
I'm going back to ICS roms.
I had the same problem for a while. It wasn't until after I flashed Blurry JB after the third time did it work lag free. I had no idea what was going on but I just followed the advice of the developers and deleted the slot 1, wiped everything and reinstalled it.
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You seem to think all bionic users share your experience. Not true. My bionic running JB stock rom & kernel, rooted gives great performance and a better user experience than ICS. Mine is fast and stable with no lag. Your blanket criticisms miss the mark for most.
I thought you can't go back to ics once you have jb. No?
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Groid said:
You seem to think all bionic users share your experience. Not true. My bionic running JB stock rom & kernel, rooted gives great performance and a better user experience than ICS. Mine is fast and stable with no lag. Your blanket criticisms miss the mark for most.
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Have you even looked at the threads in the development section? It's pretty clear the lag issue is common and I am not alone. There are always a few exceptions to a blanket statement, thanks for pointing it out though.
No problems here.
If you're still running ICS as stock with JB in a safestrap slot, that's your problem
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Have you even looked at the threads in the development section? It's pretty clear the lag issue is common and I am not alone. There are always a few exceptions to a blanket statement, thanks for pointing it out though.
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I certainly agree that some percentage of users experience lag or other problems and I don't doubt that you are one of them. Not sure what that percentage is though. I did an FDR after the JB update and clear cache once in a while. I sync manually and turned off Google Now, but use Voice Search extensively. Various settings, sync options, location services and some apps can cause problems that have little to do with the rom.
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No problems here.
If you're still running ICS as stock with JB in a safestrap slot, that's your problem
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I'll try and update it to JB then I suppose. Thanks for the tip.
I get 2-10 second lags when doing a lot of tasks.
I have been reluctant to go from my extremely functional ICS based bionic running Icarus HD Remix to JB. I have not seen any post that convinces me to make the jump.
I have JB on my tablet, my wife has it on her Samsung S3, and my phone as it is kicks butt.
Why should I upgrade from stable to JB??
Thanks anyone with constructive responses.
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No problems here.
If you're still running ICS as stock with JB in a safestrap slot, that's your problem
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I deleted all my partitions (slots), uninstalled safestrap, did a Full data reset/cache wipe. Downloaded and installed JB stock (OTA). Then installed safestrap and Liquid Smooth and it is still super laggy.
It'll be fine for a few swipes/screens then all of the sudden you go to open an app or go to the homescreen and it takes forever (5+ seconds). I've also had it reboot once randomly tonight as well as freeze with nothing on the screen but the 4 lights on the bottom lit up.
I dunno what else to do. Maybe it's time to start looking at new phone.
Well good news. One of the guys at work broke his phone last night and wants to upgrade to an S4. Since we have insurance on it, all I have to do is pay $100 and I get brand new S3...should be in tomorrow. :good:
I reformatted my phone twice, and i got heavy lag after a long while. Something was definitely up with JB. GB was fine, ICS got a bit worse, JB is just completely unusable with lag.
A emergency phone call will lag for 60 seconds (absolutely unacceptable), as well as sending messages. Keyboard pops up after 10 seconds, typing a simple sentence takes over a minute, and sending just barely responds. Although chrome is known to be pretty slow compared to browsers, it was also completely unusable for 90 seconds of lag from opening the app to retrieving search results.
I killed off a lot of apps, as well as clear out images/messages, and other cache/data things. But still, it crawled like a slug.
I gave up yesterday, and just installed CM10.1 . Already, I feel relieved that I don't feel restricted by anything. Bionic is in the RC stage for cm10.1. It does all of the necessary things flawlessly so far. I suggest everyone hwo's having slowdown issues with this stock bloatware to move over to CM or some custom rom. Keep FAR FAR away from it.
For now, i feel like I have a completely new phone since GB, and it is keeping up with the responsiveness of my Nexus 7.
But, if you are very inclined on staying on stock: I'm not sure what will help you speed it up again, other than completely wiping it again and reformatting.
Mine was still laggy even on aftermarket roms (JB).
I have it listed on craigslist now since I'm rocking an S3 since last Friday.
No lag on this bad boy.:victory:
I've been using FlyingJelly and it's great! My wife is stock JB and she has no complaints either.
Lag caused by the Overclocking?
In another thread, someone suggested that the lag many bionic users experienced could be fixed by clocking the CPU back down from 1.2 to 1 GHz. I tried this using the CPU Control under ROM Toolbox and I have found this worked for my phone, although I haven't found a way to make it permanent (it seems to change back to the 1.2 GHz setting, most of the time when trying to download something over a bad wifi or 4G connection). But it has helped with the frustration to know that when it lags, I will find the setting just needs to be changed back.
I am on ICS, running Icarus remixed or whatever it is called, and everything works.
My phone is tweaked and customized and runs great.
I have not seen any posts that answer my prior question: what is the benefit of switching to Jellybean when my phone works great right now?
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I am on ICS, running Icarus remixed or whatever it is called, and everything works.
My phone is tweaked and customized and runs great.
I have not seen any posts that answer my prior question: what is the benefit of switching to Jellybean when my phone works great right now?
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There isn't unless you want there to be one; as has been beaten to death on this forum, any updates are completely 100% personal preferences. If you're happy with what you have, then more power to ya!
thanks. I've always been on the edge with this phone, loading leaked upgrades, roms, etc. but now that it works nicely, I'm sticking with ICS & Icarus remixed. overclocked...
I wish I could go back to ICS. JB hasn't been able to keep my underclock at 600 and keeps resetting it back to 300.
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